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solomon levi
12-04-2009, 09:34 AM
I bought some triple distilled mercury online - a couple pounds of it.
The guy was nice and sent me 2 1/2 pounds, but he sent it in this plastic
container like for aspirin, and for whatever reason it was really dirty.

I have read many works which involve mercury and cleaning it with salt
and vinegar and pressing it through a leather chamois.
First, I just added some water - this didn't do anything. None of the dirt
even floated on the water. Then I added some vinegar and it was amazing.
There was some kind of rippling effect that rolled over the surface of the
mercury and left it clean like a shining mirror. I was then able to decant
the vinegar, then pour the mercury into another container and all the dirt
was left behind! I put the mercury in a glass and added more vinegar so I
could shake it really good and make sure it all got cleaned. Then I decanted
the vinegar and my mercury is really beautiful and shiny.
Unfortunately, I didn't take a pic of the original dirty mercury for comparison.
It was really ugly though.

Pic of vinegar cleaning mercury; clean in center, dirty circumference:
http://i18.servimg.com/u/f18/12/78/17/61/th/pict0511.jpg (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=241&u=12781761)

The dirt that came off:
http://i18.servimg.com/u/f18/12/78/17/61/th/pict0510.jpg (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=240&u=12781761)


This is the first time I've had access to mercury, so this will open up some
further areas of practice for me. If anyone has experience with this and
some suggestions feel free to contact me.

Salazius
12-04-2009, 06:22 PM
Hello Solomon,

Here somthing that could be interesting for you :

In order to have a very pure quicksilver, we have two ways : a dry, by distillation, and a wet, by menstra.
As the first one is quite hazardous (well, more than the second one), (and we believe with reason that we are too young to be dead or with irreversible brain damages for the rest of our life), we will experiment the second one.

In order to make the proper purification of this metal, we need 300 ml of quite concentrate acetum (home made), and 200 ml of acetone (from store). A 250 ml flask, which can be perfectly stopped, a pipette, some cleaning/absorbent paper, a glass dish (of ~250 ml), some quicksilver. My quicksilver was at last once distilled, and was almost 98 % pure.

I put ~100 gr of Hg in the 250 ml flask, I had some acetum ~150 ml.
http://i87.servimg.com/u/f87/11/17/05/29/1_merc10.jpg (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=107&u=11170529)

I shake it one or two minutes violently to break the metal into particles.

http://i87.servimg.com/u/f87/11/17/05/29/2_bras10.jpg (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=108&u=11170529)

http://i87.servimg.com/u/f87/11/17/05/29/5_gran10.jpg (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=109&u=11170529)

The acetum becomes grey/greenish.
http://i87.servimg.com/u/f87/11/17/05/29/4_sale10.jpg (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=110&u=11170529)

I shake several time again, no noticeable changes in colours.
http://i87.servimg.com/u/f87/11/17/05/29/3_bras10.jpg (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=111&u=11170529)

I remove the Acetum and I put it into the 500 ml flask, in order to keep it for later, and to avoid the lost of any particules of metal if it is accidentaly poured.
http://i87.servimg.com/u/f87/11/17/05/29/7_retr10.jpg (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=112&u=11170529)
http://i87.servimg.com/u/f87/11/17/05/29/7_gran10.jpg (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=113&u=11170529)

I put some new acetum on it, and I shake again. It remains clear. I remove it and put some acetone on it. I shake again. All the quicksilver re amalgamates, and the acetone is dark grey.
http://i87.servimg.com/u/f87/11/17/05/29/9_ajou10.jpg (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=114&u=11170529)

I remove the Acetone and put some new back again. No changes after shaking. I remove it.

We can see some heavy dirt on the metal. We can't remove it by menstrum, we will use some paper.
http://i87.servimg.com/u/f87/11/17/05/29/on_enl10.jpg (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=120&u=11170529)

Put a sheet of paper in a little dish, pour the Hg into it, slowly. Make it roll several time, the dirt will remain on the paper.
http://i87.servimg.com/u/f87/11/17/05/29/11_sal11.jpg (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=118&u=11170529)

Pour your pure Hg into a well stopped flask.
http://i87.servimg.com/u/f87/11/17/05/29/13_mer10.jpg (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=119&u=11170529)

It takes half an hour. And two weeks almost for the acetum (depending of the quantity you make).

I used acetum because the ancients Alchemists said it works well, they used to filter it by a chamoy skin, by experience I know that a coffee filter is okay, but there is always a tiny dirty ball of metal that will never be filtered. They said also that sea salt can be used (only if it is clean enough, not raw sea salt), it only helps to shake the metal in order to open it, and make it into little balls. If you shake enough, it's not necessary. I also used Acetone because the nature is very close to Acetum, it is also a good menstrum, and I thought that if Acetum could do nothing more, something different could ... well it works.

The dirt is mostly Hg oxides. Be careful with quicksilver & acetum, both are very dangerous, acetum for your eyes and skin can be a powerful corrosive, making deep and quick wounds that take a very long time to be healed. Quicksilver damages are for the nervous system, brain, etc. When the vapours are inhaled their nature is to rise to the top of the body, the brain, like aluminium do (Alzheimer is an aluminium disease). BE WARNED and BE CAREFUL !

I want to add that when your Hg is pure, you can catch and keep bubbles of air in the metal, like bubbles of water but here of mercury, it means the metal is now plastic, and cannot be broken by some dirt in it's structure, which prevent from catching air, I made no photo of this, sorry :D

Opus Magnum
12-04-2009, 06:32 PM
Cool... :cool: some good knowledge for the newbie :D

Agni
12-04-2009, 06:44 PM
Thanks. :)

This is also very interesting for me.

solomon levi
12-04-2009, 07:00 PM
Thank you, Salazius.
I'll follow your example.

I too thought of pressing it through a coffee filter, but didn't try it.


Now I'm curious what you use your mercury for. :D
Have you used it for the antimony path?

Your pictures and glassware are so beautiful. You should write a book. ;)

Salazius
12-04-2009, 09:45 PM
Hello guys,

You're welcome.

If ever unfortunately some Quicksilver Hg fall on the floor or anywhere else, take some sulphur S, and put some on it, in order to amalgamate the metal, now, no vapours can rise and it's safer.

Solomon :


I too thought of pressing it through a coffee filter, but didn't try it.

You will have to make a little hole in it with a needle. Otherwise it will not go throughout it. Then, by it's own weight it will flow, be careful, it can sprinkle little drops of it !! Then, you will have to press it with your hand in order to push down the Hg, wrap it with plastic film to avoid any drop getting out of the filter by the top.


Now I'm curious what you use your mercury for.
Have you used it for the antimony path?

NoI didn't used it for this path. Hg is useful for a lot of things...


Your pictures and glassware are so beautiful. You should write a book.

Thanks.
A book, why not after all ? I Just need to think about it...

LeoRetilus
12-05-2009, 12:52 AM
Mercury is used in the Sigismond Bacstrom process to ferment the alkahest to form the stone in the place of gold and in all subsequent multiplications.

Whats interesting about mercury is that, one can very easily produce a radioactive isotope of mercury, (Hg197) which has a half -life of approx. 2.17 days after which it falls to gold on its own.

Some clues can be found in the study of ancient Ayuverda, the eastern alchemical mysteries are far older than the medieval alchemy most people study today. It was once said in an ancient Indian text that one could dissolve mercury and dissolve mercury till one comes to its essence, and it would form a white powder and would make a very good medicine, and to see if it was ready for ingestion the artist would then heat it with red hot heat in the presence of nitrogen and it will turn into gold.

Now most of us are familiar with David Hudson, but few have listened to or read his entire lectures and I have heard him riped quite a bit on these forums but few understand the significance of the physics he has uncovered, some would find them boring because he presents alot of scientific papers which are from peer reviewed scientific letters written by physicists and the like. But I'll try to put the whole thing in a nutshell, the process is as follows, the metal is put into solution, then by either a series of multiple ph swings or repeated drying and baking , the metallic clusters are broken down into smaller and smaller ions ,now for each element or T-metal in this case, in order for a metallic crystal lattice to be formed there must be a certain number of atoms in each cluster, once you pass that precipace, the element will no longer be discernable as a metal. Now what does a metallic atom with all those free electrons do when they are no longer available for bonding or energy sharing? Well they put tremdous stress on the nucleus and cause it to elongate. Now the strong nulcear force is what keeps all those protons packed in that nulceus against there will and remember protons are positively charged and like charges repel each other and while the strong nuclear force is great at close distances it is very weak at great distances, and at this point through repeated anneling the electrons are pumped to the adiabatic ground state and bosonic activity can be observed, we can pack them together and they can share the same state and even occupy the same space in time if there energies are equal, the same thing happens in the nucleus and the protons form cooper pairs, and at that point it is only apparent they these substances should and in fact do exhibit quantum phenomenon that is consistent with superconductive and superfluid properties. At that point we no longer require the 1 million electron volts of energy to send into the nucleus to knock off a proton and a few neutrons for transmutation to occur, it happens on its own with a little heat.
The reality of the matter is that all matter is in a constant state of flux either coming together to form more an more complex matter or becoming too heavy and falling apart through natural radioactive decay, everything in the universe has a half life. The energy that it takes to put them together is what is consumed and the energy that is released when it falls apart is what is liberated. This is why I think my study of alchemy has led to the study of radiant energy, its everywhere.

So in closing it may be faster to use mercury to get to the calx of gold and use it for our fermentation and multiplication sequences, than actual metallic or native gold how ever so powdered or beaten.

solomon levi
12-05-2009, 09:26 AM
That's a nice summation of Hudson's work, Leo. :)

As Salazius said, mercury has many applications in alchemy. I'll try to
outline a few of the more popular.

Mercury will amalgamate with most all the metals except iron, thus iron
filings have also been used in the process of cleansing mercury.

Mercury has been used to make a gold calx used in many paths.

Mercury sublimate (corrosive sublimate, mercuric chloride) is used in
literally dozens of particulars (see Digby, for example). Newton and Boyle
also believed mercury sublimate could open the body of some metals
(antimony, copper, tin, silver) and retrieve their 'mercuries'. Newton also
believed that the 'stone serpents' reported in some alchemical works were
the components of mercury sublimate (sea salt and nitre, sometimes
vitriol was used as well).
(In "The Hermetic and Alchemical Writings of Paracelsus" we find, on
googlebooks, 50 pages that reference mercury sublimate!)

Mercury sublimate is considered by some to be the secret fire of alchemy.
It is also used in the production of butter of antimony (although this can
also be made with spirit of salt).

In the antimony path, we can consider our three principles:
mercury - the martial regulus of antimony
sulphur - gold
salt - mercury sublimate
(be advised, there is more to this path than what I have simply stated here)

Many other particulars refer to the fixation of common (volatile)
mercury. You find several of these in Paracelsus, Digby... It is so significant
that Rusenstein prefaces his works with such sentences:
"You should know that great universal works of various kinds are to be
found in this book. You will discover nature itself, as well as wonderful
and glorious particular works, all kinds of graded waters, and Fixations of
mercury with (? some symbol I don't recognise - perhaps aqua fortis or
some kind of corrosive water), antimony and mars...."

Both the fusile salts obtained from the golden water path or the fixed sea
salt are used to fix common mercury.

Then there are the cinnabar paths already outlined in other threads on this forum.

solomon levi
12-08-2009, 09:20 AM
transmutation of mercury into gold by acetic acid:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/7537110/ICCF9metallic-Transmutations-by-Acetic-Acid

nice pics too.
the sad part is 143mgs (in 4 months) = .005 ounce,
that's only 5 thousandths of an ounce.

1/10th oz = approx $100, so 1/1000th oz = $1
$5 in four months! don't give up your day job.
LOL

Seth-Ra
12-08-2009, 11:09 AM
transmutation of mercury into gold by acetic acid:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/7537110/ICCF9metallic-Transmutations-by-Acetic-Acid

nice pics too.
the sad part is 143mgs (in 4 months) = .005 ounce,
that's only 5 thousandths of an ounce.

1/10th oz = approx $100, so 1/1000th oz = $1
$5 in four months! don't give up your day job.
LOL

I could be highly mistaken, but it would seem to me, that considering the rate of gold (money wise, rising in value and all that) and the low cost of these materials, that if one were to buy them in bulk supply, and perhaps refine the method in an alchemical way (instead of this solely chemistry viewing of the Work) that it could infact more then compensate for itself, and be something of some value.

But then, that takes "seed money" and faith. ;)
If i had the stuff and the time, id give it a try. :D but alas... :(

Still, interesting read, thanks for the link Sol. :)

~Seth-Ra

solomon levi
12-09-2009, 10:39 PM
I could be highly mistaken, but it would seem to me, that considering the rate of gold (money wise, rising in value and all that) and the low cost of these materials, that if one were to buy them in bulk supply, and perhaps refine the method in an alchemical way (instead of this solely chemistry viewing of the Work) that it could infact more then compensate for itself, and be something of some value.

But then, that takes "seed money" and faith. ;)
If i had the stuff and the time, id give it a try. :D but alas... :(

Still, interesting read, thanks for the link Sol. :)

~Seth-Ra

You're welcome!
I started re-thinking this too. I was only looking at the gold output,
but if we consider the mercury input, it too is a very small amount:
500 mgs = .0176 oz.
So if you get a lot of these little runs going, you could maybe make
some money.
And, as you suggested, maybe this can be supplemented with
m-gold or something...

Ooops. I was wrong. The mercury is grams, not mgs.
So 500 gms is about a pound of mercury.

I wonder what would happen if they used glacial or radical vinegar?

LeoRetilus
12-09-2009, 10:59 PM
Good this thread is still alive, check this out guys http://www.rexresearch.com/adept/aa7hgau.htm

Remember how I said the isotope Hg197 would fall to Au.

solomon levi
12-13-2009, 03:39 AM
Here are some images for your scrutiny. :D
I'm placing it here because it's similar to what was discussed
using mercury and vinegar.

The big dark object is a lead weight from a diving belt.
The orange and red material on the floor of the vessel - ok, it's a jar -
is "salt of lead" or "sugar of lead". I don't know why there are two
colors except that maybe a saturation point was reached?
(Actually I do know why - the pH difference causes it to get redder.)
Sugar of lead is supposed to be clear crystals, but there is something
(colorless) I added to the vinegar that makes it red (due to pH).
Okay, don't twist my arm! It's H2O2.

Anyway, the reason I'm posting it is because, well, it was outside
due to the contents and it froze in this cold weather we've been
having in the NW. I brought it in the other night because I want
to use the lead for something else. It thawed and upon inspection
I notice little gold flakes. I had already been noticing this band that
formed inside along the glass because in the right light it reflects
iridescence. Some parts of the iridescent band are now gold as in
the lower pic, about an inch from the right side of the jar when you
view the blown-up version - I caught it with the light reflecting,
but I know you can't tell it's golden.
In the upper pic I caught the reflection of a small flake laying in
the "sugar" - to the right of the lamp reflection about the width of
a fingernail from it.
There's a dozen or so more visible on the edge; maybe more buried in the "sugar".
( I see another one in the lower picture - follow the lighter colored "sugar"
to the left and there's a yellow dot in it).
I don't know if they all fell off of the band or not.


http://i18.servimg.com/u/f18/12/78/17/61/th/pict0517.jpg (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=249&u=12781761)


http://i18.servimg.com/u/f18/12/78/17/61/th/pict0518.jpg (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=250&u=12781761)

Ghislain
12-13-2009, 09:48 AM
Scares me!

How dangerous is Mercury?

Ghislain

solomon levi
12-14-2009, 12:58 AM
A proper MSDS should be looked into, but I think for the
most part, as many items, it becomes most dangerous in fumes
after heating, or possibly mixing with reactive chemicals that fume.

I've seen it handled with bare hands often.
My brother did this when we were kids, and he's still around. :)
I'm not recommending it - just saying...

Items become very dangerous in powder as well - often one needs to
pulverise antimony or lead and they are dangerous if breathed in
in aerial powder form.

Ghislain
12-14-2009, 02:03 AM
I think this is something for me to consider once I have
tried out a few safer paths...just in case :)

Ghislain

solomon levi
12-14-2009, 02:19 AM
Yes. Especially if your lab is not separate from your living quarters,
not a good idea. Do it outside or in an outbuilding.

LeoRetilus
12-16-2009, 02:04 AM
Safety first gentlemen, you will probably want to buy or build a fume hood like I have ,even when working with GW, my wife complains about the smell, phew.
But I also built a fume scrubber, which is basically a box with an air inlet and outlet , baffles for the air stream to change direction inside and a water spray bar throughout, with a fine mist to knock down the particulates from the air stream, the air being sucked out of our reaction chamber by an inline axial fan or blower, then forced through the water scrubber. We want to be enviromentaly conscious alchemists.:)