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01-03-2009, 01:25 PM
This is a Phoenix-thread (http://forum.alchemyforums.com/showthread.php?t=7) from the old site (http://alchemy-forums.forumotion.com/forum.htm).

I've posted about this elsewhere (http://forums.abrahadabra.com/showthread.php?t=1861) so this thread is mostly copy/paste... but I feel it should have its place here on Alchemy Forums. Mostly this topic gets ignored, perhaps here it will generate more interest.

Emanuel Swedenborg meditated regularly and developed the ability to leave his body and visit heaven. What he had to say about these experiences echo NDE. The angels Swedenborg met spoke in holographic thought balls, as Swedenborg called them, and were a sort of picture language with each image containing a thousand ideas, and similar to the portrayals he could see in the wave-substance, or aura, that surrounded a person.

Swedenborg talked about reality’s holographic qualities and that all humans may seem separate but are in fact in a cosmic unity. In heaven we are all in miniature, in fact the whole physical universe is a microcosm of the greater divine reality. The visible reality that we see every day is only a wave-substance.

Rev. Dr. George F. Dole, professor of theology at the Swedenborg School of Religion in Newton, Massachusetts, notes that one of the most basic tenets of Swedenborg’s thinking is that our universe is constantly created and sustained by two wavelike flows, one from heaven and one coming from our own soul or spirit. He says that:

...if we put these images together, the resemblance to the hologram is striking.
Dr. Dennis Gabor discovered holography by accident, in 1947, trying to design improvements for the electron microscope. Terence and Dennis McKenna provide an excellent explanation of holography in their book The Invisible Landscape:

A low-intensity laser beam is passed through a semiopaque mirror, causing part of the beam to pass through the mirror and illuminate the object to be photographed. This light is then reflected from the object onto a photographic plate in front of the object. Simultaneously, the other part of the beam is reflected off a series of mirrors such that it falls on the photographic plate at an angle to the beam reflected from the object.
Rev. Dr. George F. Dole points out, in his essay An Image of God in a Mirror (and I always say that God is in my mirror), that if:

...we take seriously the characteristics of the hologram, it becomes a trenchant and almost literal description of a radically significant fact. Every part of the universe is an image of the Whole [which is exactly what a hologram is since every part of it contains an image of the whole].
We are defined not by either the direct or the indirect inflow alone, but by the way they intersect. There is anintimate inter-relatedness of our understanding of who we are and our understanding of the world we are in. A discovery in either area alter our view of the other.

Emanuel Swedenborg wrote that:

...every created thing.., is by nature recipient of God ... it is suitable because it was created in God by God; and because it was created in this way, it is an analogue, and . . . is like an image of God in a mirror.”
If indeed the brain stores information in a holographic manner (as have been suggested) it would not be affected if its anatomy were rearranged. Dr. Paul Pietsch writes about an experiment to prove this in his book Shuffle Brain:

In more than 700 operations, I rotated, reversed, added, subtracted, and scrambled brain parts. I shuffled. I reshuffled. I sliced, lengthened, deviated, shortened, opposed, transposed, juxtaposed and flipped. I spliced front to back with lengths of spinal chord, or medulla, with other pieces of brain turned inside out. But nothing short of dispatching the brain to the slopbucket – nothing expunged feeding!
What he concluded from this was that:

...scrambling the brain’s anatomy did not scramble its programs. Meaning was contained within its parts, not spread out among their relationships. If I wanted to change behaviour, I had to supply not a new anatomy, but new information.
In an interesting article by David Bohm called The Implicate Order (http://www.bizcharts.com/stoa_del_sol/plenum/plenum_3.html) it says:

The theory of the Implicate Order contains an ultraholistic cosmic view; it connects everything with everything else. In principle, any individual element could reveal "detailed information about every other element in the universe." The central underlying theme of Bohm's theory is the "unbroken wholeness of the totality of existence as an undivided flowing movement without borders."

No thoughts, oh well I am used to that when it comes to this topic!

09-05-2009, 03:23 PM

TWO UNIVERSES of different dimension and obeying disparate physical laws are rendered completely equivalent by the holographic principle. Theorists have demonstrated this principle mathematically for a specific type of five-dimensional spacetime ("anti–de Sitter") and its four-dimensional boundary. In effect, the 5-D universe is recorded like a hologram on the 4-D surface at its periphery. Superstring theory rules in the 5-D spacetime, but a so-called conformal field theory of point particles operates on the 4-D hologram. A black hole in the 5-D spacetime is equivalent to hot radiation on the hologram--for example, the hole and the radiation have the same entropy even though the physical origin of the entropy is completely different for each case. Although these two descriptions of the universe seem utterly unalike, no experiment could distinguish between them, even in principle. - source (http://www.essentia.com/discovery/holographic_spacetime.htm)


09-05-2009, 03:25 PM
Perhaps this might interest you all:

The Holographic Universe and the Otz Chiķim (http://www.mikecrowson.co.uk/Holo.html)

Look at the centre of this hologram diagram:




solomon levi
09-05-2009, 09:09 PM
That is very interesting. It corroborates what I've been taught about
the seven levels of consciousness and energy.

cosmic rays = kether
gamma = level of binah-chokmah
x-rays = gevurah-chesed
ultraviolet = tiphareth
visible = hod-netzach (pure white light)
infrared = yesod (the negative)
hertzian = malkuth (the projected image - reality)

The way that some travel through the sephirot, I've been taught to travel the electromagnetic spectrum.

But I understand the splitting to occur between uv and visible light.
Gurdjieff also shows a "shock" or half-tone occurring there in his
seven leveled system.

I read all those books several years ago - Talbot, Bohm, Hawking, Fred Alan Wolf, Pribram, Bentov...
I don't really have much to say about it other than I agree with it.
I love the views that quantum mechanics give us of the universe.

09-06-2009, 08:57 AM
I find The Two slit experiment (www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfPeprQ7oGc) is the simplest to do but the weirdest to comprehend

09-06-2009, 12:23 PM
Heisenberg theory is true, the observer interfere and change what is observed.
This is Alchemy.

09-06-2009, 05:02 PM
Nice additions folks, need to ponder on some things...


09-15-2009, 09:30 PM
A Fractal Universe (http://www.fractaluniverse.org/) perhaps?

A fractal is generally a rough or fragmented geometric shape that can be split into parts, each of which is (at least approximately) a reduced-size copy of the whole, a property called self-similarity. Roots of mathematical interest on fractals can be traced back to the late 19th Century; however, the term fractal was coined by Benoīt Mandelbrot in 1975 and was derived from the Latin fractus meaning broken or fractured. A mathematical fractal is based on an equation that undergoes iteration, a form of feedback based on recursion. -source (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fractal)


05-23-2010, 10:00 PM
visible = hod-netzach (pure white light)

Visible 'White' light is not pure white, it contains the whole visible color spectrum hidden inside.

If you show me a ray of white visible light that doesn't break through a prism into the entire spectrum (but rather remains white) - then I'll believe it's pure white :)

05-24-2010, 07:07 AM
Heisenberg theory is true, the observer interfere and change what is
This is Alchemy.

Is this a case of "we dont have accurate enough equipment to measure these two
criteria (position and momentum) as we have to fire a photon at the electron to measure its position
and hence we change its momentum in the process"? Rather like firing a tennis ball at a football to
measure its position but in the process adding to the footballs momentum.

Who knows what the future might bring...we may discover tiny particles(compared to photons and
electrons) which have no mass and hence do not interfere with the resultant measurement of
position and momentum of electrons.

I thought of these particles first so I shall call them Ghislainons. Similar to the Graviton :)

To find the position and momentum of an electron you first need to bombard a given area with
Ghislainons and then measure the G’s reflected from the electron for angle and momentum. QED ;)

read Uncertainty principle and observer effect (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncertainty_principle#Uncertainty_principle_and_ob server_effect), Especially "Heisenberg's microscope".

I can't fathom the maths but I’m sure they are just saying they don't have anything to measure it
with right now; nothing strange there then!

Speed cameras have a similar problem...if they can be clearly seen all vehicles are within the speed
limit, if not clearly seen all vehicles are outside of the speed limit.
Averaging speed cameras do not have this property. A very strange phenomena ;)


P.S. Is this the same problem with the two slit experiment, as when a person looks at the experiment
there is a wave, but if a device is set up to see which slot the photon goes through the wave
collapses. Shouldn’t it be expected that a huge electronic measuring device would have an effect
on a photon, or is that just me?

05-24-2010, 04:34 PM
All this stuff is weird... in a fascinating way... like the particles that are only there when we are not looking. Sometimes religion seems more logical than science... ha ha.

Most things are belief anyway... I strongly believe that it is more probable than not that there are multiple dimensions. And that we can indeed pass through them... with the right skills be it with mind or matter.

There is clearly a resonance going on, and call it whatever you like... but we can't ignore that matter has an invisible field, and also that matter becomes filled with a void when we use a microscope... that what seems solid is really not... if matter is like this then it is quite possible to penetrate all solids.

And if every part of the universe holds the universe within, then we need not go far to get all the answers.


05-24-2010, 05:38 PM
And if every part of the universe holds the universe within, then we need not go far to get all the answers.

I hereby name the practice of 'Inner-Sun Gazing' :)

My favorite Ali Puli quote:

"If you do not find the thing for which you are seeking, in your own self, much less will you find it outside yourself."

05-25-2010, 03:14 PM
I put a kid’s microscope up against the screen of my laptop to see the RGB.

Tried to photograph it but came out rubbish. Have a look yourself. Changes in colour are just made
by the intensity variations of that trinity :)

I still am amazed that you can create the illusion of all the colours just using
Red, Green and Blue.

And if you think of it there is no colour at all as what we perceive as colour is only different
frequencies of electromagnetic radiation sensitising our optic nerves and we then create the colours
in our brain...love it. What else do we create for ourselves?

Taking it further colour can be assumed to be a property of a material, for we only see the frequency
the material fails to absorb.

Visible Spectrum (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visible_spectrum)


10-07-2010, 10:05 PM
Bruno (http://forum.alchemyforums.com/showthread.php?9-Giordano-Bruno) was on to this as well:

"All is in all". - from De immenso (1591) also translated by Dorothea Waley Singer (1950).


05-28-2013, 12:54 AM


solomon levi
07-04-2013, 06:28 AM
ha! just watching the holographic universe from a facebook link... was gonna post it here.
Very very good video... must see!
Probably should have a warning though. :) This film is very destructive, undoing, like taking mushrooms.
It asks some hard questions and makes some good points; challenges everything we think we know about reality.

"Where is the 'I'? The ghost in the machine?"
He answers, the soul. As if that is an answer. I'll tell you: there isn't one. The 'I' is made from nothing, is nothing...
nothing twisted and spun into the appearance of something, for a time.

07-04-2013, 09:32 AM
ha! just watching the holographic universe from a facebook link... was gonna post it here.

I'm always ahead of the curve... :)

"Where is the 'I'? The ghost in the machine?"

I have always argued that there is a "machine in the ghost"!

On a personal level this thread is probably one of my favorite ones as far as subject matter goes... even if it is not as active as I would like it to be. Some things require time and patience...