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Ghislain
12-10-2009, 08:09 PM
While trying to make Black Powder I found that it was almost impossible to buy
charcoal out of season. I could get art charcoal but that was expensive. I thought
I would try ordinary coal. The coal BP (http://genius.toucansurf.com/Black Powder.wmv) worked but was very slow.

The residue (http://genius.toucansurf.com/coal residue/residue from black powder.jpg ) looked glassy and red. As I found this interesting I ignited a larger amount
in a stainless steel cup... I retrieved the material and dissolved it in some water.

This water was now a dark bluey green (http://genius.toucansurf.com/coal residue/residue mixed with water.jpg ), alkaline and stinking of rotten eggs.

This mixture was filtered through some kitchen towel.
This was then placed in a large glass baking tray (http://genius.toucansurf.com/coal residue/filtered liquid in evaporation tray.jpg ) to evaporate.

The salt (http://genius.toucansurf.com/coal residue/salts from evaporation.jpg ) formed was alkaline and non-fusile.
However the salt that I tried to melt did change its property...
when water was added to both the salt that had not been calcined and
the calcined salt there was a colour difference seen here (http://genius.toucansurf.com/coal residue/calcined salt and non calcined.jpg )
at the top of the plate respectively left to right.

I have since acquired some charcoal and made BP with it and it leaves no red residue. Therefore
whatever the red residue is it is most likely from the coal.

Could anyone shed any more light on what this is?

Ghislain

P.S. The other ingredients in the BP was Sodium Nitrate and Sulfur.

More photo's Here (http://genius.toucansurf.com/coal residue )

Seth-Ra
12-10-2009, 08:29 PM
Ya know ive seen similar green salts form from some of my older rose waters... i have to say i dont know what it is, but it reminds me of the green emblem on my avatar and symbol... im not sure why... but i love it... *is that weird? :confused: :o *

Something about green salts remind me of the Emerald Tablet, and just life in general... weird indeed.

I wonder how similar the green salts we get are to each other, and if there is a commonality that forms them...

~Seth-Ra

solomon levi
12-10-2009, 10:08 PM
I know what it is Ghislain. Congratulations!
I was just telling someone I need to do more work with this.
Look through the book - there are several other descriptions of it.

http://books.google.com/books?id=nntKEQVzHP0C&pg=PA110&dq=a+red+carbuncle+prepared&cd=2#v=onepage&q=a%20red%20carbuncle%20prepared&f=false

I've prepared the same red salt and green water. :)

Next time, add the gold. (see golden carbuncle).

Ghislain
12-11-2009, 05:40 AM
I am not sure Seph'

I know if you leave flowers in a vase too long you get the same smell :(

I have not dabbled with plant material yet

I am sure I will but there is so so much to learn :o

I think I will get some smelly flower water and evaporate that
and see what I get :)

Ghislain

LeoRetilus
12-11-2009, 07:38 AM
[QUOTE=Ghislain;5506].

This water was now a dark bluey green (http://genius.toucansurf.com/coal residue/residue mixed with water.jpg ), alkaline and stinking of rotten eggs.


Could anyone shed any more light on what this is?

Ghislain

The rotten egg smell is common in rotting vegetable matter as is found in coal and petroleum deposits , it is H2S, hydrogen sulfide gas.

Sulfur in this state I might add has a great affinity for gold and will draw out the ormus or the seeds of gold, from the salts in the coal and the wood, if it is the right type of wood and convert it to the alchemical gold. Your on the right track as Solomon says

Peace and LVX

Frater L.R.

LeoRetilus
12-12-2009, 09:11 AM
Ghislain, did this red salt ignite?

Ghislain
12-12-2009, 08:38 PM
LeoRetilus, no the red salt was the residue of a
blackpowder I made from raw coal.

Ghislain

abdo
11-06-2011, 10:32 AM
LeoRetilus, no the red salt was the residue of a
blackpowder I made from raw coal.

Ghislain
You should precipitate sulfur (by using acid) from this alkaline water before igniting it and it should burn like common sulfur.