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solomon levi
12-16-2009, 09:30 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if the processes devoted to antimony can
be performed on Bismuth as well.

All the metalloids are interesting, being something of a mercury/
messenger between minerals and metals.
Pure metals being harder to open, minerals being confused with multiple
subjects and impurities, metalloids make idea subjects/materia to begin
the work with.

http://www.duepassinelmistero.com/_borders/Fulcanelli-_Julien_Champagne.jpg

You'll notice on the upper left corner beneath the moon glyph, a B with a line
through it, the alchemical symbol for Bismuth. Antimony is beneath the sun
on the right corner. Contemplate it.

solomon levi
12-16-2009, 09:40 PM
http://i18.servimg.com/u/f18/12/78/17/61/th/rebis_10.gif (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=248&u=12781761)

This is the fifth emblem from Basil Valentine's "Azoth", the Rebis.
Notice the masonic compass and square. The square is held in an
interesting fashion - both compass and square reflect the greek
letters lambda and gamma, which total 33. Yes, there are 33 degrees
of masonic initiation, but do you know what the 33rd element in
the periodic table is? Arsenic.




You probably know that there were many alchemists before the invention
and organisation of the periodic table...
There is another 33 in alchemy. I won't tell you, but I'll make it easy.
It's very blatant in its alchemical symbol; that is, a blatant #33.
Sift through these and you will see it. Don't complicate what I'm saying.
It's not a riddle. Look for the item that has 33 as its symbol.
(Notice under "alembicus" one of its symbols is a line with a 3 under it.
Well, keep looking until you find the item with 33.)

http://www.alchemywebsite.com/alchemical_symbols00.html

LeoRetilus
12-16-2009, 10:02 PM
Its a unit of measure: scroll down to the u's (http://books.google.com/books?id=W-E9AAAAIAAJ&pg=PA271&lpg=PA271&dq=uncia+alchemy&source=bl&ots=AfhDE3fZ13&sig=9M-P25mDXpf0XTKKTexHy7sDLpQ&hl=en&ei=wVcpS7uhM422swOS0IHKBA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CAgQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=&f=false)

solomon levi
12-16-2009, 10:25 PM
Its a unit of measure: scroll down to the u's (http://books.google.com/books?id=W-E9AAAAIAAJ&pg=PA271&lpg=PA271&dq=uncia+alchemy&source=bl&ots=AfhDE3fZ13&sig=9M-P25mDXpf0XTKKTexHy7sDLpQ&hl=en&ei=wVcpS7uhM422swOS0IHKBA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CAgQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=&f=false)

true. but that's not the one I mean for you to find.
scroll up, much earlier in the alphabet.
(Your link does not display the page that has the title of this item,
it's not included in the preview - but does display the symbol on the
following page.)
Remember the letter Fulcanelli gave as a clue.

LeoRetilus
12-16-2009, 10:39 PM
Ok I found it , but I' dont still don't see where your going with this, one is a unit of measure the other an alchemical process? Are you pointing to an ingredient or a process to get to the ingredient?

solomon levi
12-16-2009, 10:44 PM
It's an ore.
Are you looking at the list I provided?
It has lots of symbols, among them a serpent crucified on a tree (similar
to dollar sign) and the antimony symbol (but it's not antimony).
A couple of the symbols for this item incorporate the 33.
One is a completely bare/blatant 33.

Which process did you find? - may be connected if "sublimation"

LeoRetilus
12-16-2009, 10:54 PM
Oh I see it now, yes I was looking at the list you provided, but started from the bottom up. Sorry for my stuborness. :o Nice :) Do you think the reappearance of the 33 again and again is significant? I think it does and this may get to the heart of the matter if you know what I mean..."The Essence of The Cross salutes the only hope/snake (http://books.google.com/books?id=mRVAmMo9in8C&pg=PA321&lpg=PA321&dq=uncia+alchemy&source=bl&ots=Tf1iokL2bx&sig=2_74CrKeDAEM4RcSCyYvN7w1eNE&hl=en&ei=wVcpS7uhM422swOS0IHKBA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=9&ved=0CCAQ6AEwCA#v=onepage&q=&f=false)", from Fulcanelli

solomon levi
12-16-2009, 11:13 PM
Yes, but honestly I haven't cracked it.
Another masonic reference (besides the 33 degrees) that comes into my mind
is 3 x 11, and I see 11 as the two pillars, Joachim and Boaz (like the twin towers
and 9/11) which may refer to the circulation of the elements, solve - coagula.
The two vertical lines may also reference the celestial forces of the sun and moon
descending to earth... some process to be repeated 3x ???

LeoRetilus
12-16-2009, 11:32 PM
Well it seems to me that they are referring to the Rosy Cross, "The Essense of The Cross contains the only hope/snake." Snake and hope being synomous with each other and pointing to the venomous spirit from the ore you refer to whose symbol is 33, if you read the Bacstrom Process I keep refering to he says to use the same snake "best revived from....", the ore you mentioned. And this goes back to what I said in the Cleansing....Thread. Notice that the multiplications are done with it again and again and the remaining body of the spirit of the ore to be carefully seperated after each multiplication and discarded, indicating that what was needed was extracted from each fermentation, as it only abounds in the ore in small amounts. Being what I believe to be the isotope I keep refering to as well as the seeds.

solomon levi
12-16-2009, 11:45 PM
Ok. I comprehend. :)

LeoRetilus
12-17-2009, 07:13 AM
The thirty two paths of mystical wisdom (http://www.communitas-saturni.de/English_Home/Practice/Essays/Paths/paths.html). If you look at the Kabbalistic Tree of Life (http://www.byzant.com/mystical/kabbalah/Path.aspx) there are 32 paths from Malkult to Keter . There are also 22 paths connecting pairs of sefirot, and twenty two letters in the hebrew alphabet. Wow this is eerie , I turned 33 this year, and was born on 10/08/76, 1+0+8+7+6=22, guess I shouldn't read too much into this. But then again maybe it is only fitting since the 33rd is the path of sublime intelligence or THE KNOWLEDGE AND CONVERSATION OF YOUR HOLY GUARDIAN ANGEL, and maybe he has chosen me to speak through, if so then I am your humble servant.

solomon levi
12-17-2009, 08:51 AM
11 and 22 are divine numbers in numerology.
But don't let it go to your head. :)
Every 23 year old has been 22. ;)

AethreWicc
01-10-2010, 10:45 PM
It is relevant that you were inclined to find so many correspondances with your numbers, however, I would bear it mind as a sidenote, for later referral, more than as a subject of deep contemplation. "Divine coincidences" seem more aimed to show us that our life is on it's proper path, rather than any indication of deeper meaning at the time we realize them.

LeoRetilus
01-10-2010, 11:13 PM
It is relevant that you were inclined to find so many correspondances with your numbers, however, I would bear it mind as a sidenote, for later referral, more than as a subject of deep contemplation. "Divine coincidences" seem more aimed to show us that our life is on it's proper path, rather than any indication of deeper meaning at the time we realize them.

On a certain level for me personally I would say that you are right, I constantly find reassurances from God in the manner you speak of. Although you miss the point of this thread, it is about how the adepts hid truly philosophical gems(items used in the Opus) in symbolism and in particular developed a form of, philosophical shorthand, for lack of a better word and encoded the most important items in some form of a 33 symbol

AethreWicc
01-11-2010, 06:07 AM
Pardon my digression. I have contemplated what was originally discussed but had no viable solutions to mention of it. I still do not. Just putting input whence I thought there might be value, and thank you.

LeoRetilus
03-24-2010, 04:30 AM
33 vertebrae separate above from below.

Ghislain
08-28-2010, 08:48 AM
Something I was just reading came up with this paragraph so, remembering this thread, I thought I
would pop it in here.


For example, consider the number 33. The first temple of Solomon stood for thirty-three
years in its pristine splendor. At the end of that time it was pillaged by the Egyptian King Shishak,
and finally (588 B.C.) it was completely destroyed by Nebuchadnezzar and the people of Jerusalem
were led into captivity to Babylon. (See General History of Freemasonry, by Robert Macoy.) Also King
David ruled for thirty-three years in Jerusalem; the Masonic Order is divided into thirty-three
symbolic degrees; there are thirty-three segments in the human spinal column; and Jesus was
crucified in the thirty-third year of His life.

Source: (http://ftp.fortunaty.net/com/sacred-texts/eso/sta/sta18.htm)

Ghislain