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05-25-2010, 08:46 PM
This may be of some interest to someone out there...

"The Genesa Crystal contains within its design all 5 Platonic Solids-the shapes that are the building blocks for all organic life, including the Star of Tetrahedron. The Star of Tetrahedron is believed by many to be the specific geometric shape that surrounds the human body."

The following is a conversation I had years ago with another member of an Ormus forum who forwarded my questions to an intuitive friend - who provided some answers - along with a private email between us that he allowed me to post but which never made it to the forum. I am not claiming 100% accuracy for the answers given. The subject matter strays off the topic of the Genesa Crystal shape but I didn't want to cut up the post too much.

Although I have since constructed a Genesa Crystal out of copper pipe [properly notched - not overlapping] I have not yet applied it in any practical way.

Dear M**

If D** will be asking more "Ormus and shape power" questions, please consider the Genesa Crystal form:

As I understand it, all the platonic solids, including the star-tetrahedron are implied by this one shape.


Greets group,

I recently embarked upon a general exploration of this topic
with my friend D** in order to clarify my understanding of the
subtle energies at work around us, and how certain geometric shapes
attract and interact with such energies. D** is a gifted
kinesiologist and has proven her skills on many occasions to me in
extroardinary ways.
The following information was brought forward by a process of
kinesiological/psychic inquiry.

We started with the sophic cone that has been in discussion
recently on this board. We asked:

The sophic cone collects energy - positive
" " " attracts energy - positive
" " " collects orgone -negative
" " " attracts orgone -negative
" " " collects torsion -positive
" " " attracts torsion -positive
The sophic cone can be worn to enhance mental clarity -positive
-can be detrimental if worn too long -negative (it is protective)
-can be used to create protective field around Ormus -positive
-can be used to create Ormus -negative
So it would seem that the wizards knew what they were doing...

We then asked about the Genesa crystal as queried by Albion
(you can see a Genesa crystal here):

We had previously discovered that a star-tetrahedron can be used to
create a protective field around Ormus, preventing its escape and
prolonging its shelf life, so Albion asked if the Genesa crystal has
the same effect as the star tetrahedon, to which we got a "negative"
response. We further asked:

The Genesa crystal creates a protecive field around Ormus -negative
" " " "enlivens"(strengthens)Ormus -positive
Ideal time of Ormus exposure inside Genesa crystal -two weeks

I then asked D** to rate the Ormus(exposed 2 weeks to the Genesa Crystal),
on a 1-1000 scale as we have done in the past
(masada ppt rates at 300, Hudsons WPG rated at 700).
Deb agreed and the phone went silent for a moment, but no response.
I asked her if there was a problem and began to re-describe what I
was asking, but she said she understood and that something was wrong
-she went all the way up to 1000 and got no "hit". I decided to ask
her to "go with it" -however high it might go off the scale even
though such an occurence would be rather perplexing. She complied
and reported back that she ended up with 1800 on the 1-1000 scale!
Normally I would throw such a result out the window very quickly,
but it just so happens I've been recently talking to Denis of OZ
who's been getting the same strange anomolous readings when dowsing
his home made ppt -numbers way off the 1-1000 scale.
This is still a mystery to us but a very interesting confirmation.
D** has never experienced such an occurence with her testing before.
She seems to think that we are touching upon something
"multi-dimensional" with these materials that might effect
the scale itself...(?)
At any rate, we have not clearly defined why this has happened but
since it is happening to more than one person it now seems a little
more plausible that something strange is indeed happening rather
than some sort of simple mistake.
Whatever the "1800" rating means, it appears to be a positive result
so I continued with some questions about constructing one of these
Genesa crystals to work with and recieved the following information:

The optimum diameter of the Genesa Crystal is 7" (this matters alot)
Copper is a sufficient material to use but there are better metals,
platinum is better than copper and there an even better metals that
we did not discover, as we determined that they are very expensive
(gold is not better than copper however).
While looking for the metal we discovered that metal is actually not
the best material itself. We struggled through countless other
materials (crystal rock clay plastic) none of them worked, so we
asked if it is readily available and got "no" -we asked if it is
very expensive and got -"yes", we decided to leave it at that since
copper seems to be the most cost effective material that is
sufficient for the construction.
Copper strips are better than tubes, the ideal width of these strips
are 1 and 1/4 inch,(I didn't ask about thickness don't think it
matters much).
The Ormus does not have to be suspended in the Genesa Crystal to work,
simply setting it inside will work just as good.
It just so happens that I spied some copper sheeting at the scrap
yard last week, and need to go back for more lead tomorrow
so I will begin this experiment and post some photos of the
G.crystal once it is built -hopefully it will work as nicely as
D**'s testing suggests it does.
Again, I think this is a situation where the seedling tests could
give an indication of increased Ormus potency (one seedling plain
water, one normal wet-meth ppt water, and one with G.crystal exposed
ppt water).

This is all the info I have so far about the Genesa Crystal, I should
have some results to report about this in a few weeks (photos).
BIG thanks to Albion for another great suggestion!

While on these topics I decided to get some further insight on these
energies themselves, as I have been regarding them as somewhat
generic, (torsion, orgone, chi, prana, aether etc.)
To my suprise D** informed very quickly that she can see the aether
as well as orgone so she knows some of the properties of these two
distinct energies.
Aether, as she puts it, is everywhere -all present and permeating.
It consists of very tiny triangles that are multi-colored
(although she suspects that these colors may vary depending upon the
individual). The aether does not have any particular characteristics
beyond its basic nature, it remains constant, except that it has the
ability to expand. We tried a few questions:
Ormus utilizes aether -positive
Ormus expands aether -positive
Aether utilizes Ormus -positive
What this means is beyond me at the moment, although I am certain
that it is significant somehow.
I then queried D** about the other energy she is familiar with
She explained to me that orgone posesses different characteristics
than aether, it has a very "static" nature and jumps around a lot
(like balls) It can be manipulated by certain variables that affect
its nature (positive/negative soft/sharp etc.)
We tried a few questions:
Orgone creates protection around Ormus -positive
Ormus can be created with orgone -negative (looks like no..?)
-is also known as "chi" -negative
" " known as "qi-gong" -negative
" " known as torsion energy -negative
" " known as prana -negative
So it appears that these energies are unique to themselves
and not generic at all, each having (perhaps)their own personal
relation to one another and Ormus as well.
We then discovered that not only is orgone present in the pyramid
procedure (hanging gold at the kings chamber level) but torsion
energy is also present. Apparently these two energies work in
conjunction with one another to render the effect of transmutation.
We tried a host of questions about this:
Pyramids attract torsion energy -positive
" " collect torsion energy -positive
" " harness torsion energy -positive
transmit torsion energy -negative
Torsion energy has numerous characteristics - positive
" " can be used to enliven Ormus - positive
(I suspect this is what the Genesa crystal uses -but failed to ask)
Pyramid procedure utilizes torsion energy -positive
" " " orgone energy -positive
Torsion energy in the pyramid affects the orgone energy -positive
Pyramid procedure will work without torsion energy -negative
" " " " orgone energy -negative
Torsion energy affects orgone energy -positive
" " activates orgone -negative
" " attracts orgone -negative
" " amplifies orgone -positive
We then tried numerous ways to see if the orgone in turn affects the
torsion but only came up with negative responses.

This has brought some added clarity to me about these energies and
the roles they play with Ormus. It is my sincere hope that we can
begin to quantify the effects of these energies by way of our Ormus
experimentations and further our understanding of both in the
If anyone has further ideas/suggestions,
as always -don't hesitate to ask.


Hi Albion,
Spoke to D** earlier this morning and had an interesting session. I did re-word
quite a few things -hope I managed to keep the spirit of your questions intact.
As for the sunlight, it is really not a harvesting situation as it is a birthing situation,
and this requires that Ormus be present in the water prior to exposure, in other words, Ormus is born only in the presence of other Ormus and sunlight is a catalyst of this process.
The crystals [not genesa -ed], as D** explains it, take on a different quality once they have formed into their specific matrix, so the subtle energy of the silica itself becomes transformed, and hence we found that crystals are not necessarily beneficial to the trap process.
We did find some interesting corellations between silica and orgone energy, and it just happened that I was trying to explore this subject a bit further -so that was very helpful.
I don't have time to post this info now, but could write it up later (today hopefully) or if you'd like you can post it yourself -either way is fine by me. Sorry if anything is messy or incomprehensible, I was a bit sleep deprived when we worked on this having been up all night running wet-meth batches.
Drop me a line if there is anything that needs clarification, or I can further help in any way.

BTW- Don't forget that the testing can be prone to errors sometimes, if the wording
isn't right -it takes some vigilance to catch -we did pretty good throughout I think, but if anything doesn't seem to add up to you -let me know and we can re-check with some different approaches.
(begin Q & A)
Sunlight can increase the potential of trapping Ormus in a mag-vortex trap-yes
Sound can increase the potential of trapping Ormus in a mag-vortex trap-yes
pre-filtering ("doping")can increase the potential of trapping Ormus in a mag-
vortex trap-yes
A mag-vortex trap is capable of delivering Ormus equal in quality to that of
the wet-method- yes to that of the lye burn method-yes the pyramid method-no
The following aspects [can] improve effectivness of the mag-trap process-
which can generate highly effectual Ormus-yes
without resorting to the use of isolated chemicals such as HCL and NAOH-yes
Ormus-related chemistry will eventually be "mapped" onto an understanding of the
integrated physics of these factors- yes
There are additional major/primary factors to be added to the list above- yes
There are primary factors-yes
HUMAN ATTENTION is an important factor in the mag-trap process- yes
HUMAN disposition is an important factor- yes
The Magnetic-Vortex Watertrap process is ideally divided into distinct phases- yes
Sunlight harvesting is most effective when carried out seperately from the
recirculation process-yes
The factors listed above (comprise) the technique of plants to capture Ormus.-no
(incorporates-no something wrong with this statement -need to braek the specific
(comprise is not a good word)
The factors stated above are some of the techniques used by plants to utilize

Quartz has an affinity for light-yes sunlight especially-yes
Silica has an affinity for light-no sunlight-no
powdered quartz has an affinity to light- yes sunlight-yes
(powdered quartz is different than silica) -Deb says that silica IS light
(irridescence -grows in lines-the energy runs in straight lines and growth follows
Colloidal silica placed in glass vessel with Ormus in the sunlight will cause
birth of Ormus-yes
colloidal silica assists this birthing- yes
Silica creates orgone - yes!!!
Orgone is created from the energy emitted from silica - yes (there is another
energy involved as well)
Colloidal silica in a glass jug provides a beneficial matrix for receiving the
value in sunlight relevant to the birthing of Ormus in a watertrap process- no
(something is wrong?)
for retaining the value in sunlight " " " "-
Quartz utilizes the silica within it -transforms the light -is not the same
Crystals in the water work as well as silica in colloid form-no
Gems in the water work as well as silica in colloid form-no
There are other colloids which would be better to use than colloidal silica-no
Silver Colloidal can be used in the water to improve mag-trap results-yes
(not as effeicient for birthing Ormus as silica)
silica colloidal can be used in the trap water to improve -no
Bacteria can be used to receive Ormus from sunlight- no
Ormnus comes from sunlight -no
The infrared end of the spectrum is the most ideal for Ormus-no
the red end of the spectrum is the most ideal for Ormus- yes
624 nano meter wavelenth is beneficial for Ormus -yes (enlivens)
Specific NM wavlength of light that enlivens Ormus the most is- 558nm YES!!
There is a specific nm wavelenth that assist birthing - yes
Specific nm wavelength of light that births ormus is - 523nm!!
Sunlight (Birthing) is best when done before running the water through
the mag-trap-no
Ormus trap water is best birthed before running it thru the trap -yes
The value of sunlight can be gathered during the running of the trap under certain
The conditions are that a crystal be the intermediary between the sunlight and the

A glass water-jug used for collecting completed trap water is most effective when
resting on the ground- yes
on rock- no
on sand- no
Glass is the most ideal material for collecting finished trap water-yes
When an individual sungazes [at dawn or dusk] it is beneficial that they be
grounded by standing with bare feet on bare earth- yes
CRYSTALS [minerals, rocks, gems]
Crystals can be used in the trapwater process to good effect- no

A tetrahedron comprised of crystal elements can function as an intermediary
between sunlight and water in the trapwater process -no (crystals not effective in
trap process)
The star-tetrahedron shape can be employed to both funnel-up and funnel down
complimentary energies toward a confluence- yes
[as sungazing/earthgounding are complimentary]
The genesa-crystal form can be used to good effect in the sunlight birthing phase
- yes
[eg: around the glass jug].
The genesa-crystal form can be used around the mag-trap to improve its
effectiveness- yes
enlivens Ormus run through a mag-trap- no
allows trap to collect more ormus- yes
The genesa-crystal form is best constructed of tungsten- is effective -better than
gold is best

Copper wound with tungsten is effective- yes
as effective as tungsten alone- yes
Some crystals emit vibrations which are not good for humans- yes
'Doping' or 'seeding' the water which runs through a recirculation trap greatly
improves the end-product- no bad wording try the word "can"-yes
Numerical ranking 1-10 (10 being the very best one being negligable)
Colloidal silica-7
Pureganic mineral powder-6
(average) bentonite clay-6 some types rateas high as 8
Shilajit mineral exudite-5
There is a better dopant than those just mentioned - yes
Dopant does not add benefit if sound, and geometry
are utilized correctly-no
Paramagnetic materials in magnetic fields will act as magnets but when the magnets
are removed, thermal motion will quickly disrupt the magnetic alignment- yes
The most effective shape for the Magnetic-Vortex housing is:
On a scale of one to ten:
Cylindrical- 6
Funnel- 8
Egg [laterally asymmetrical]-5
Ovoid [laterally symmetrical]-5
Double torus-4
there is another shape that is best - yes
cetrifuge (round then an inverted cone - 10 this is it!
Wood is the most ideal material a trap can be made of- yes cherrywood is the best
Counterclockwise spin is optimal- no
Counterclockwise spin is optimal in the southern hemisphere- yes
clockwise spin is optimal in the Northern Hemisphere-yes
Cermic magnets are superior to neodymium magnets for use wi th the mag-vortex trap
A standing-wave pattern, made of the confluence of tones, can create a 'tight
space' which escorts Ormus- yes
Sonic vibrations can be used to create vibrational configurations which create a
homeopathic equivalent of elements of the periodic table = yes
The concept above is not vital to the trapwater process since the element-vibes
are derived from the sumlight -??? this is too many questions combined
It is possible to create sound patterns which are not good for Ormus- yes
It is possible to create sound patterns which are not good for humans- yes
Given that the sound reaches the vortex within the trap:
Human voice intonation can improve results from mag-trap-yes
toning with human voice improves results of mag-trap- yes
harmonizing with human voice improves results of mag-trap-yes
chanting with human voice improves results of mag-trap-no
speaking in joy with human voice improves results of mag-trap-no
praying out loud with human voice improves results of mag-trap-no
drumming will work -it's about timing, 40bpm works
singing with human voice improves results of mag-trap- yes
speaking in gratitude with human voice improves results of mag-trap-no
These sounds (can) be amplified electronically to the vortex-yes
w/out detriment to Ormus-EMF will be "overcome" by right use of sound
Sound that is beneficial to Ormus "counteracts detriment of EMF-yes
(be careful of sounds present when running the trap, arguments, radio, horns
beeping etc.
excess sounds can be detrimental)
Nuper Rosarum Flores is the single most effective sound that can be utilized for
benefitting Ormus - yes
in the mag-trap procedure-yes
Sound is best introduced into the Magnetic-Vortex housing in the circuit of the
recirculation trap. Y/N? the circuit? the body is best -no prior to running it
thru trap is best -yes
"The Tube" rare earth charger [product] enlivens Ormus- yes
"The Tube" rare earth charger 'gives birth to' Ormus- yes
The "Alex Chiu Immortality Rings" enliven Ormus in the vortices of blood
circulating through the fingers- no
This sequence is valid: Adamantine particles > Anu > Ormus.....(?)
adamantine particles are related to Ormus-no
adamantine particles assist Ormus-yes
Ormus assists adamantine particles -yes
Anu is related to Ormus- no
Anu assists Ormus- no
Ormus assists anu -no

05-25-2010, 08:55 PM
Hey, thanks for the great info!

I once made a Copper Cone-Hat for myself to wear.

It was very uncomfortable.

You have inspired me to make a better one :)

I was thinking of a 72 degrees angle.

What angle would you recommend from what you've learned so far?

It will be interesting to wear outside as well (not that I haven't done similar things before :p), introducing an interesting variable...

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05-25-2010, 11:07 PM
I have not investigated sothic cones [and really don't know as much about shape power as my collection of information might seem to imply]. I have wondered, though, if the various pyramid-building cultures would have preferred to employ a cone shape but, due to construction constraints, had to settle for a four-sided rendition. But allignment with north may be a critical factor.

If you adorn your sothic cap with a magnet array of some type it might be even more powerful [and more uncomfortable :-)].

Sothic Cone:


The angle of a pyramid apparently determines it’s center of energy. [Note figure 5]:





“Shape Power” by Dan Davidson [on scribd]


“Pyramid Energy” by Dean Hardy:



More genesa Links:


May relate to Buckminster Fuller’s Vector Equilibrium:









05-26-2010, 04:15 AM
Then, a bit closer to home, there's the geometry of the "Cave of Brahma."

Magnetic Components of Brain Activity [Excerpt from “Ancient Wisdom & Modern Physics]

"Let me continue. I already discussed the importance of the magnetic component of brain activity in studying and monitoring brain processes and functions accurately and precisely. Further research by our Russian colleagues has also shown that with proper parallel computing algorithms, one can plot three-dimensionally the magnetic field configuration and spatio-temporal time-varying fields of the midbrain’s thalamus, hypothalamus, hippocampus, amygdala, pituitary and pineal functions in real time!

This is unprecedented, because it shows that, as we all here have learned in our Hermetic Gnostic Order’s teachings, the so-called “Cave of Brahma”, Dr. N’s favourite “hang-out” (laughter), is indeed the magnetic and acoustic resonance chamber, its shape being a topological complex analogue of an ellipsoidal, prolate spheroid and a torus. In American lingo, I think that is called, a doughnut inside an egg? (Laughter) May I have the cine film strip please? Thank you. (Short film showing computer graphics is shown).

This shows a real-time plot of the nested magnetic fields around my own head. This piece of research was a little favour from a British colleague that likes to work nights. They call it the “Dracula Shift” (laughter). The white lines of the overall contour, the green the Hypothalamus plus Thalamus field, the red the Hippocampus plus Amygdala cycloid-shaped field (semi-circular), and the dumb-bell shaped blue is the Epyphisis (Pineal) and Hypophysis (Pituitary) combined fields. I wrote this algorithm myself with the help of Professor Penrose -- another unofficial favour -- to map the magnetic fields using both the SQUID sensor helmets and a special helmet designed by Dr. Z having Delta-T and Delta-Wye transforms, having specially designed magnetic coils and sensors. This way we could pick up Pico and Nanogauss fields (billionth of a Gauss). The combined information is displayed here in three-dimensional coloured graphics. Notice the external white-lined shape is like an egg. Inside, almost at the centre, is the toroidal shape of the Hippocampus-Amygdala combined fields, the red contours. The central tube-like “sausage with trumpet-like open ends” looks like what? Anyone? (Chorus: “An Einstein-Rosen Bridge!”) Right!
The blue-green combined field of the Thalamus-Hypothalamus-Pituitary-Pineal glands forms a sausage, like a mini hyperspace tunnel, about 7cm long. The screen image is magnified, but the actual side is about 7cm, (reflecting) the normal brain size.

Let me pause as minute. Can we replay that part? Thanks. Notice how the overall geometry is an ellipsoidal prolate spheroidal cavity containing a sub-space of a toroid traversed by a hyperbolic, non-linear Einstein-Rosen bridge. Again, in American lingo, “an egg-shaped cavity containing a doughnut crossed by a sausage”. What do these nested fields look like to you, dear friends? (Cross talk and comments). A topological analogue of a relativistic, locally curved space-time locus around a solar system. Of course! What else? A space-time torus with an Einstein-Rosen bridge connecting its median points!

There, ladies and gentlemen...there is the scientific proof that the motto of our Order, the dictum of the ancient sages, “As Above, So Below ... As Within, So Without” is scientifically and neurophysiologically correct and precisely so! These shapes, which you all recognise as hyperspatial four-dimensional plots, are indeed magnetic-acoustical resonance chambers. Notice that these amazing geometries are the synergistic effect of the magnetic fields of these six organs surrounded by the ventricles, under the roof of the choroid plexus and corpus callosum. Notice what happens if I subtract the field of even a single organ, let’s say the pineal gland. See how it changes the entire structure? And, if I add the contribution of the mamillary body, it only widens the tube, right? And if we add the field from the reticular formation, the master circuit network, relay and switchboard of the brain where all waves are originated, what do we get? Next frame, please? We get a tunnel merging with the main ellipsoidal field. In the screen, it is the orange coloured grid.

To summarize, what is our Mid-Brain or Inner Cavity? It is a relativistic spatio-temporal cavity with local enfolded hyperspatial bridges that undergoes harmonic resonances to magnetic and acoustical stimuli. The implications are almost astronomical, if I may use the term, because a model and mechanism based on this novel scientific information implies that our human brain is in reality none other than a biological space-time energy transducer. As such, it creates not only space, but also time. Our ancient Chinese ancestors maintained that “the Tao was in our head”, in other words, all the Universe was in our head! My own inference from this study is that space and time are essentially biologically modulated, perhaps even formulated, for my equations show that possibility. Should this intuitive scientific insight be correct, then it would demolish physics, biology, philosophy and theology in a single, clean blow.

Incidentally, I showed this filmstrip and discussed my theory and equations with Professor Penrose, who seemed interested at first, but very politely declined any further comment or association with me thereafter. I think he realized the impact of this novel theory. He is still convinced that quantum mechanics is the answer to explain brain functions and consciousness. I disagree. I think it is General Relativity and Unified Field a la Einstein, pure and simple. Quantum phenomena is not the cause, but merely the effect, and creation is not statistical. It is wholeheartedly deterministic, not left to chance, but to precisely formulated potentials, not fields. The potentials are the cause, the fields are the effects. In simple terms, pure magnetism and sound are the potentials. Electricity is the field. Magnetism and sound do not “travel” as such, for they are inherently enfolded in space and are everywhere. It is the disturbance that travels. On the other hand, electrical charge, hence electricity, does travel, because it needs a physical medium. It is obvious that we still don’t understand either magnetism or the true nature of sound. "


Perhaps the (geometry of the) “Cave of Brahma” can be considered as the more objective component of a greater dynamic/information-loop that includes the more subjective, personal component of (the activity of) the heart center - as we are never simply passive, objective experiencers but are, as well, and to some degree, active sub/co-creators of our world as individual, multi-phonic [in that there are numbers of us extending the range of infinity, so to speak, in a way that having mere oneness, in an exclusive, absolute sense, does not] offspring of Source.

I don’t believe, however, that everything can be “reduced” to the conceptual language of geometry.

“Sacred Geometry & Coherent Emotion” by Daniel Winter [free on scribd]