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Phoenix
01-03-2009, 11:59 PM
This is a Phoenix-thread (http://forum.alchemyforums.com/showthread.php?t=7) from the old site (http://alchemy-forums.forumotion.com/forum.htm) created by spectre.

Here's an interesting article by John Granger about the possible alchemical symbolism in Harry Potter:

The Alchemist’s Tale: Harry Potter & the Alchemical Tradition in English Literature (http://www.touchstonemag.com/archives/article.php?id=16-09-034-f)
I don't have time to read the whole article now, but I skimmed it some. I should also say I have never read a HP book yet, and I'm not sure I will. The whole mess was just too capitalized/consumerized (yes that's a new word) for me.

I highly doubt J.K. Rowling could pierce the veils without actually practicing laboratory alchemy or atleast some form of psychological alchemy. She might've had a basic overview of the work, but I highly doubt there are any "secrets" or "keys" inside the book.
I agree with you. I've read some of the books but never thought about any symbolism but just for the entertainment, so I was surprised when I found that article since I'd never given it a thought. Rowling isn't really someone practicing alchemy but she did use small alchemical references in her books... however this article would mainly be interesting for those that love the Harry Potter series already. Like you say Harry Potter is definitely not going to teach anyone alchemy. You can't really extract "The Alchemy" from Harry Potter.. but it loaned some alchemical references and the story itself might be considered a psychological transmutation of sorts.

The same goes for many other works of fiction or art, such as Lord of the Rings and Star Wars that are based on mythological archetypes. J.R.R. Tolkien was very interested in mythology, especially Norse mythology and George Lucas was interested in Joseph Campbell's work: The secret behind Star Wars (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXKpt16tPP0)

I agree with you. I've read some of the books but never thought about any symbolism but just for the entertainment, so I was surprised when I found that article since I'd never given it a thought. Rowling isn't really someone practicing alchemy but she did use small alchemical references in her books... however this article would mainly be interesting for those that love the Harry Potter series already.

Ah, I understand. That reminds me, some of the Harry Potter fans are INSANE, especially the hardcore fans. Rowling has had numerous issues with them. Weird stuff.


The same goes for many other works of fiction or art, such as Lord of the Rings and Star Wars that are based on mythological archetypes. J.R.R. Tolkien was very interested in mythology, especially Norse mythology and George Lucas was interested in Joseph Campbell's work: The secret behind Star Wars

Hehehe, actually I would say there are more occult and arcane secrets in the work of the Lord of the Rings & Star Wars than there is in Harry Potter. The Lord of the Rings is definitely filled with some interesting stuff....
Alchemical symbolism can be found in most art, and not because the artist is aware of the alchemical meaning, but because alchemy is such an ancient artform... its roots are everywhere!

This also creates a lot of trouble for those trying to interpret the symbolism since they [the symbols themselves] all get confused, mixed up and watered down!

Andro
04-30-2010, 11:45 AM
Harry's journey towards gold:

Alchemical symbols in the Harry Potter series. (http://www.harrypotterforseekers.com/articles/journeytogold.php?style=1)

Click on the above link for the article.

I strongly feel this (2010) is a year of great revelations, a year when the mysteries of The Great Work will be more permeable and accessible than ever in this current cycle of our history.

However many amongst us will succeed in manifesting the Elixir, please consider that this may well be only the beginning of a much deeper Magnum Opus - the journey into the darkest depths of our souls. Here, I believe, another selection is made, incomparable in severity to the selectivity of revelations regarding practical lab work, which may indeed turn out to be child's play compared to what is to come.

Harry Potter already holds The Stone in his hand at the end of the first book/movie. Yet, his journey has only just begun.

In short: When we have our Cake, will we be able to Eat it, too?

:cool:

PS: As far as practical clues are concerned, the first book/movie is not falling short, either. Just consider the name 'Harry Potter'.

'Harry' can be easily related to Henry / Henri / INRI / 'Igni Natura Renovatur Integra'. And his last name may well be self-explanatory for some applications...

And the practical clues in the book don't stop at the name ;)

LeoRetilus
04-30-2010, 10:31 PM
'Harry' can be easily related to Henry / Henri / INRI / 'Igni Natura Renovatur Integra'. And his last name may well be self-explanatory for some applications...



Hmm...., I always thought the original hairy pott-er was Willie Nelson :D

http://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php?albumid=1099&pictureid=13200

Andro
04-30-2010, 11:24 PM
Hmm...., I always thought the original hairy pott-er was Willie Nelson :D

Quoth Willie:


Inside every lady there's a cowboy who wants to come out.
And inside every cowboy there's a lady that'd love to slip out.

Also quite Alchemical :D

Andro
06-20-2011, 12:45 AM
My current Avatar (The Deathly Hallows (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dzUg9HCdWRo/TOZIOp2JkRI/AAAAAAAAAUw/EOWZpbb4JIk/s1600/690px-Sign_of_the_Deathly_Hallows.svg.png)) is IMO by far the best Alchemical Symbol in the entire Harry Potter saga :)

I am especially fond of it because it is open to so many ways and levels of interpretation - and yet, it shines in its simplicity...

Nibiru
06-20-2011, 05:46 AM
I'd thought about the picture on your avatar before, and I think I was over complicating it. Looking at the link you posted, I believe I just saw it from a much simpler perspective. I felt an instinctive reassurance towards a work I've been considering attempting soon. If I am headed in the right direction as I feel I may be, then talk about wool over the eyes, lol

Andro
06-20-2011, 08:30 AM
Like I wrote above, this is the beauty of this symbol IMO - it can be interpreted on various levels and in quite a few ways :)


a much simpler perspective

I believe it was Sendivogius who said: "Simplicity is the Seal of Truth".


talk about wool over the eyes

Cool 'choice' of words! Did you know that 'Wool' and 'Eyes' are (to some extent) in Correspondence with the same Astrological Archetype?

And speaking of wool, maybe you've already heard of Les Brown's Pyramid/Wool Experiment (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7VN6B2GjVI)...
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Nibiru
06-20-2011, 09:19 PM
I believe I know the significance of wool, but not of the eyes. I had seen that video a while back but had forgot about it, thanks for posting it as it's much more relevant now. The video's yet another warning of the potential powers of the energies we choose to work with, reminds me of the stories of the Ark of the Covenant...