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solomon levi
07-13-2010, 10:19 PM
Ever since the kundalini energy leapt into my throat, I've had some
interesting perceptual abilities. I've already mentioned being able to read
the green language, but it's even more than that. It's like I have this other
mind that can know anything. I say "other" mind, because I have dialogues
with it. Whatever "I" am thinking about, this other mind jumps in and
begins revealing all these things about whatever topic is occupying me.
Like last night I was thinking about all the male symbols - nitre, arsenic,
antimony, iron, zinc... and i was imaging writing a post here about it. And
I was discussing how the mars symbol used to look like the antimony symbol,
that is, the opposite of venus - a circle with a cross on top. And i thought to
myself, "who knows why they decided to put the mars "arrow" at an angle";
and as i watched, this mind started to go to work. And I was like, "You're
going to show me, aren't you?" And it just grinned at me, with its huge
dragon teeth....

And so I realised, that this newfound faculty which i was hoping wasn't
temporary, had actually burrowed in and made a home in me; or rather
that it consumed me, like the green lion devours the sun. This is why we
call our Secunda sharp, piercing, unquenchable... well, it's one of the reasons
why, the psychological aspect.
Anyway, it was like I woke up from a dream; or more exactly, it was like
this laser focus, I was suddenly able to diffuse it again, to expand my
attention to encompass the real world again, and get out of my head for a
while.

And like/similar to what Androgynus said, this green diffuses to golden silence.
It was really weird. I could see that I had been in tunnel vision
for days, contemplating all these things.

I'm not saying one is good and the other bad... I'm just learning temperance:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f8/RWS_Tarot_14_Temperance.jpg


This green mind is wonderful, but it will consume you if you're not aware.
My training from CC helped prepare me for this:

"Once a man has vanquished fear, he is free from it for the rest of his life because, instead of fear, he has acquired clarity--a clarity of mind which erases fear. By then a man knows his desires; he knows how to satisfy those desires. He can anticipate the new steps of learning and a sharp clarity surrounds everything. The man feels that nothing is concealed.
And thus he has encountered his second enemy: Clarity! That clarity of mind, which is so hard to obtain, dispels fear, but also blinds. It forces the man never to doubt himself. It gives him the assurance he can do anything he pleases, for he sees clearly into everything. And he is courageous because he is clear, and he stops at nothing because he is clear. But all that is a mistake; it is like something incomplete. If the man yields to this make-believe power, he has succumbed to his second enemy and will be patient when he should rush. And he will fumble with learning until he winds up incapable of learning anything more. His second enemy has just stopped him cold from trying to become a man of knowledge. Instead, the man may turn into a buoyant warrior, or a clown. Yet the clarity for which he has paid so dearly will never change to darkness and fear again. He will be clear as long as he lives, but he will no longer learn, or yearn for, anything.
He must do what he did with fear: he must defy his clarity and use it only to see, and wait patiently and measure carefully before taking new steps; he must think, above all, that his clarity is almost a mistake. And a moment will come when he will understand that his clarity was only a point before his eyes. And thus he will have overcome his second enemy, and will arrive at a position where nothing can harm him anymore. This will not be a mistake. It will not be only a point before his eyes. It will be true power."

read more if you want here:
http://www.prismagems.com/castaneda/donjuan1.html

Don Juan called the fifth seal the "center for decisions".
Another teacher of mine called it "truth; love expressed".

I think both are appropriate.

There is still some interaction with the black. I feel I'm being turned into
compost. I'm still not all the way dead. From what I can see, there was a
long phase of doing a lot of work on my self which broke me down into large
chunks; and now these chunks are being chewed by the dragon and mixed
with his saliva, and soon, I'll be swallowed and digested and finally be dead.

What a blessed day that will be!

sol-dieu(r)
Filius Prodigus

LeoRetilus
07-14-2010, 06:15 PM
Sol, I can't help to feel responsible for what has happened to you. Before I went on vacation three weeks ago i was reading some of your posts and I felt you needed a little nudge in the right direction. I probably shouldn't have done it but I performed the Middle Pillar Ritual on myself directed at you at the request that you would experience some revelations, something that my words and those of others alone could not accomplish, about three days later it had worked its deed and you experienced your burst day as Andro called it, the voice in your head is mine, or at least its the same voice that is in my head now, I can see it coming through in your posts now especially now since you started throwing up the tarot trumps as I have in the past. The kundalini will flow freely through you as it pleases and so will the revelations and its movement of you, as well as the coincedences, unless of course you want it all to stop?

solomon levi
07-15-2010, 05:47 AM
Hi Leo.
Thanks for thinking of me. I am honored.
I don't mind you doing magick on me - I'm in the Beloved's hands.

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g296/isamom/cosmic_man.jpg


It's funny that you would take credit/blame for this.
You're such a Leo (astrologically speaking)!
Now this is the kind of Crazy I'm talking about. :D:D
I see myself in you. ;)
Who knows? Maybe you deserve all the credit for the realisations
happening to me.
But yours is not the only voice in my head.
I still blame Vega for the Britney phenomena.
You sick bastard! Think of the children!!!
:DLMFAO!!!:D


Seriously, it is the voice of Dreaming, or "the Dreaming Emissary".
It is also the "voice" of Nostre Damus - our Lady, the Virgin Mary.
So don't get TOO Crazy on me and tell me it's your voice.
Remember the difference between clarity and true power.

Besides, my voice is shouting "SILICATES!!!". :D
Careful - I might send you some magick back. ;)




http://webcomicoverlook.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/ichc1.jpg


***on the off chance that someone interprets my humor as a threat...
PLEASE DONT! :) I'm just in a playful mood. :D

solomon levi
07-15-2010, 06:12 AM
The kundalini will flow freely through you as it pleases and so will the revelations and its movement of you, as well as the coincedences, unless of course you want it all to stop?


If you are implying that you made this happen and you can stop it, I dare you to try.
As an experiment: "Undo" your magic or deny it or whatever, and I'll honestly
tell you if Our lady goes away.

I'll bet you a hundred Marcasites it doesn't. :D

ps - you are far braver than I - throwing your Crazy out there like that.
You know, most people will see this as extreme egocentricism.
And i cannot defend you. :D:D
I'm Swiss cheese!

The voice in my head just told me that Castor is 'castrated' and Pollux has
huge 'bollocks'. :D
Were you thinking the same thing!?


You're a fascinating friend Leo.
I've truly enjoyed learning about Deuterium, Clays, Marcasites... all interesting.
But i think our voices are different.

In my Craziness, Our Lady showed me the friends who influenced me (not to exclude you completely).
The connectedness between all of us at this forum is something amazing.
In my Craziness, I opened the Invisible College, like a pregnant cloud, onto this forum.
And I thought, too, to apologize for the necessary Chaos that will follow.
The Craziness told me that it is the Fate/Destiny of those who are here.
(Please God, don't let him be so Crazy as to say that was his will/voice through me. Please, please, please!) :D

So I don't at all doubt your magick. But the ego part seems off to me.
There is much more going on here, and much more happening to me, than you my friend, (or me for that matter).

I love your Crazy. I need more Crazy around me. But Beloved, are you not an instrument as well?
What Voice/Verbum/Logos told you to Middle pillar me?
You think that was your idea?
How do you know I didn't influence you to send me your energy?
MoooHaaaaHaHahaHaaaa!

PRODIGAL SONS, COME FORTH!!!

solomon levi
07-15-2010, 07:12 AM
Our Lady says, "There are two fishes in my sea. And neither is the greater."

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:PijfLob6i6XtWM:http://www.cs.utk.edu/~mclennan/BA/PT/COp1.gif

http://mojo1000.com/storage/comics/06/yin_yang_nondual_zen_symbol.jpg


The Green Dragon likes that one... smiling like the Cheshire Cat.

LeoRetilus
07-15-2010, 08:29 AM
Its not my ego, I have none left, because the I is gone now only he remains, I really can claim responsibilty because I did ask for something for you and not for myself and I'm not crazy the world is, you'll see the voice will eventually bring everyone to some common ground ....I am about to take the white gloves off and unleash my consciousness on the whole world but this time through the universal mind I will spread like a virus and infect everyone, I'm like the Lawnmower Man

http://www.impawards.com/1992/posters/lawnmower_man.jpg
if you don't want it make sure your firewall is up, its already happening.

ps I'm a libra

solomon levi
07-15-2010, 10:02 AM
Its not my ego, I have none left, because the I is gone now only he remains,

Define "he".



I really can claim responsibilty because I did ask for something for you and not for myself

That makes no sense. Because you didn't ask for yourself is proof that you're responsible for my recent realizations??



and I'm not crazy the world is,

Are you that ignorant to not understand how i am using the word "Crazy",
capitalised? I've given plenty of context.



you'll see the voice will eventually bring everyone to some common ground

Because we use the same words doesn't mean we're talking about the same thing. The voice you know is not the Voice/Verbum/Logos that i know. And common ground could be a pretty boring place. Again, needs definition.



....I am about to take the white gloves off and unleash my consciousness on the whole world but this time through the universal mind I will spread like a virus and infect everyone, I'm like the Lawnmower Man

Sounds like you're about to do some major computer hacking/virus installation. Should we notify the authorities?



if you don't want it make sure your firewall is up, its already happening.
ps I'm a libra

You're a looney.

Well, good luck with all that World Domination bullshit.

I don't hear voices. I'm just shown things.
I may call it Mary, Notstra Damus, Dionysous (Dios Nous - divine mind), Logos...
it isn't interested in infecting everyone. It has always been there - you didn't create it for me, you foolish child.
I am divine by birth - not by your little magick tricks.

If you can't see that, I really don't want to speak to you anymore.
In fact, I think you've given me plenty of context to KNOW that i don't want to
speak to you anymore. You do not respect the individual. You're an egomaniac and a satanist.

Thank you for this valuable lesson.

It's funny how the voice that you claim to have given me doesn't like you at all.


http://pm.interbrand.eu/microsite/images/vader.jpg


This is a picture of you, practicing temperance...
not quite there yet. Keep practicing.

solomon levi
07-15-2010, 10:46 AM
I can see it coming through in your posts now especially now since you started throwing up the tarot trumps as I have in the past.

The Tarot is a universal language.
It's not yours!! (What an ego!)
It doesn't make me like you.
You're psychotic.
I'd say Clarity has defeated you, but you're not even Clear.

I've thrown up Homer "trumps" and a lot of other images as well.

It's because I recently learned to post images, no thanks to your complicated instructions
which i didn't even attempt to follow.

http://www.bc.edu/bc_org/avp/cas/his/CoreArt/art/resources/frag_swing.jpg


That's a picture of me swinging! I know when i swing because i am capable of self-observation.
You might want to try it sometime instead of letting a voice consume you.

horticult
07-15-2010, 11:02 AM
Nice speed.
Middle Pillar is about balancing & centering.

& IMO that Voice is/should be 1, we all are only canals/channels.

solomon levi
07-15-2010, 11:49 AM
I know that I'm writing a lot of posts in response to Leo, but i am responsible to clean up the mess he is trying to make.

The green mind that i referred to in my initial post has nothing to do with
Leo and his magick. It is certainly not his voice in my head.

We all possess this mind. We all possess multiple minds. The green mind,
as i have chosen to call it, is one of them. If you don't know that you possess
multiple minds, see here:
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.kheper.net/topics/intelligence/3brains.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.kheper.net/topics/intelligence/MacLean.htm&h=367&w=450&sz=28&tbnid=wloBoxbNkzNHBM:&tbnh=104&tbnw=127&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dthree%2Bbrains&hl=en&usg=__isl3peIUJMVcF2mI4balxgkMxDA=&sa=X&ei=qe8-TMqzOIKksQO4zKX2CA&ved=0CCgQ9QEwBQ

There is a fourth brain in the gut:
http://www.psyking.net/id36.htm

Trust me - no, use your brain(s) - Leo didn't create these, or even activate them.
I've known of them for a long time and have been using them.
I am a magickian and sourcerer in my own right and i am well
aware of the source of my visions. I am able to send people unconditional energy that
they, or their spirit, can use for whatever purpose. If Leo wants to say he sent me an
unconditional boost, I accept it. But to say he is the specific voice is not middle pillar magick.
To will me to realize what he thinks is true... not cool. He seems to be confused as to which
of these he did. He speaks with a forked tongue. Did he send me a boost for some revelations,
or have a specific "in the right direction" in mind?
From his responses, it was not an unconditional gift, but black magick.
Which obviously didn't work since he doesn't know the Secunda that my Genius told me.
My "Voice" is not his voice.
As I said in my first reply, I'm in the Beloved's hands.
Whatever his intent was, my Beloved stripped it and gave me the unconditional energy.
You guys can send me all the magick you want. I'm not worried. I love the Beloved, and She loves me.
The "Field" I have created is really special. The ultra-violet pentagram strips all negatives and positives.
It is beyond the dualism of visible light.
Anyways....


In my initial reply to Leo, I was doing as i normally do - be open, non-judgemental,
non-dual... maybe Leo does know what I'm talking about... maybe he's a Prodigal Son too?

So i gave him a chance. But his second post is still all "me, me, me". He didn't
acknowledge Spirit or Oneness as I gave him a chance to. He thinks he
has power and is the source. So I swing away from him. I want nothing to
do with that. He is not Crazy like I am Crazy. I'm Crazy in love, with MY
Genius, which is also everyone's Genius, which is why I didn't object to
Leo in the first place. But this is not something Leo did for me. I've been
cultivating my relationship with the Beloved for a long time. Leo is cultivating
something else, obviously.

You probably didn't need that explanation, but I am obliged to.

Be well.
sol-dieu(r)

solomon levi
07-15-2010, 12:03 PM
Nice speed.
Middle Pillar is about balancing & centering.

& IMO that Voice is/should be 1, we all are only canals/channels.


Yes.
I wouldn't call it your opinion. It can be seen directly when the ego is not in the way. :)

solomon levi
07-15-2010, 01:16 PM
One more "nail in the coffin", and then I'm through...

I've already told of the circumstances of my event - that i was talking with
friends, Salazius and Androgynus, on MSN. It was Salazius who introduced
me to the Green in that conversation. I told you that I experienced everything we talked about that day.

So Leo is not the source/voice of the specifics.

I have a strong connection with Salazius. Even a magickal one.
I've had a picture on my wall since last august that he posted - his hand
holding a flask of tincture. I intentionally send him unconditional love-energy
every time i look at it. I just think he's a wonderful human being.

Maybe from that connection something gets sent back. I certainly never
try to take anything from him, or use the photo to pry into his mind hoping to
find some secrets. :) The Green lady showed me how interconnected
and how intentional all these relationships are. And the magick is coming
from that "higher" space of interconnectedness. And i am intending that
level of interconnectedness at this forum. (what i mean is I am cooperating with it -
I am not the source of it)
I don't know where it's going. I don't have a specific plan. My "Field" is the
unknown. I don't do magick in the known/past.


It appears Leo is trying to use this energy/interconnectedness for his
personal reasons (though he claims to be egoless).
We should not allow him to do so.

solomon levi
07-15-2010, 01:24 PM
Wyrd-Interconnectedness:

The green mind just told me to check my horoscope.

cancer
june 22 - july 22
Today's Horoscope (Jul 15, 2010):

Don't let uncertainties caused by others lower your confidence. You have the discipline, energy and mindset to accomplish whatever you decide to do.

Salazius
07-15-2010, 02:47 PM
I have a strong connection with Salazius. Even a magickal one.
I've had a picture on my wall since last august that he posted - his hand
holding a flask of tincture. I intentionally send him unconditional love-energy
every time i look at it. I just think he's a wonderful human being.

This is warming my heart. Thank you very much ! I know this connection exist. Internet is not virtual, it is linked to another level.

Of course what you sent me, is back to you, it is the Law !

I'm also happy to decorate your house :)

You also are a marvellous and rare human being, you have expressed a little part of your potential, the latent one is only to come... it's a tremendous one !

horticult
07-15-2010, 04:00 PM
I did not notice anything wrong with LeoRetilus.

Joy
07-15-2010, 05:32 PM
Hey Solomon,

if you wonder , where it will go from here ... hmmm ... may be you will have
an encounter with the black Sophia ... thats something which is going very deep.
May be you find time to look at the emblem of the black Sophia from the "aurora
consurgens". She has green wings ... the green language ..green colour in alchemy is the
colour ... language of the unconscious.

In the inner alchmy we use the ative imagination amd move inside the emblems,
then a change to the passive imagination takes place and the inner meaning unfolds.
Still need myself a lot training, but this work just makes me happy:)

Keep on moving this way ... Love Joy:)

solomon levi
07-15-2010, 11:37 PM
Thank you Salazius. :)

And thank you Joy. :)
Yes it is very much like that. And a little confusing - stepping into the emblem you KNOW directly. When i come out, I don't know in the same way.
It's very much like Castaneda where he had to recall in the first attention
everything that had happened to him in the second/heightened awareness.
And it's tricky because they are different times/speeds.


Hi Horticult - no problem. He claims to be the cause and source of some
very magickal things that are happening with me. And i know that he isn't.

And then, because we are using similar terms, I just have to state my
disagreement with him so it is not confused. Leo wants to direct things,
as if he knows best for others. I love the unknown. We are different, is all.

He's not wrong. If he has the ability to do what he intends to do, then he also has the right. We, as humans, have the ability to domesticate animals
and raise them for food. We have the ability to blow up the world. Is it right
or wrong? I don't know. As individuals, we get to choose our course, to
whatever degree we can.

Perhaps it is just my personal non-dual perception - I don't care to use
my little will to create reality, when reality is already created perfect by
the Beloved. Of course i use my will everyday in small ways. For now it
cannot be helped. But to consciously formulate a plan to will the whole world onto some common ground (as Leo has stated) - that's rediculous
and egomaniacal. Who knows where the world should be? Even God doesn't interfere. Because God loves - "Do with me what thou will".
If God had a plan for mankind, it would be a closed system, wouldn't it?
In the same way, I am against Leo's plans. I don't choose to live in a closed
system.

It's complicated bullshit...
Whatever will be will be.

sol-dieu(r)

Ghislain
07-16-2010, 06:50 AM
I would like to reiterate a theory I have already proposed on this forum.

I have a strong feeling that we all travel a path of varied experience...it is every
personís duty to experience...the level and type of experience is an individualís
choice. Every choice that is made takes them off in a different direction on their path.
We can interact with each other and sometimes walk the same path; however we
should not interfere or hinder another on their chosen path unless that is a necessary
experience-destination on your actual path. If one chooses to interfere in anotherís path
then they must accept the resulting consequences.

It comes to mind that the reason Alchemical and Religious texts are so vague is such that they only
hint at a direction on a path that one may wish to include on their journey rather than instruction to
actually do so. If the hint was too clear then the experience would not be that of the reader but
rather that of the author.

All paths are valid, experience-oriented journeys from Hitler to Ghandi and all
else in between.

If one successfully tries to install their path-map on others then all will experience
the same and much will be missed. Maybe we are the nerve endings of a single entity.

The above is just a heartfelt opinion.

Ghislain

Andro
07-16-2010, 05:10 PM
Dear Ghislain,

You once posted (http://forum.alchemyforums.com/showthread.php?p=7104&highlight=acquire+wisdom#post7104):


And what if I never aquire wisdom?

It appears you have already aquired plenty of it :)

What you wrote above is abso-fucking-beautiful and wise, and I resonate with every word.

Heartwarming!

solomon levi
07-16-2010, 06:18 PM
I do a lot of healing with my energy. And every healer knows that a person
who has a reason/excuse to keep their illness will not let it go.
When a healing is "successful", I never think "I did this". It is always the
individual who chooses to be healed or not. To take that away from them
is unthinkable.

Even when I can see what their issue is, I don't focus on anything specific.
It's my part to just send unconditional love-energy that they/their spirit
can use in whatever way they see fit.

To think that one knows better for someone else, where they should be,
how they should change, etc, is nothing but ego, and is indeed selfish and
immature. If you convince yourself that it is otherwise, you really need to
check that voice in your head.

sol

LeoRetilus
07-16-2010, 09:31 PM
WOW,....ok...where did all of that come from? It seems you've chosen to put words and thoughts into my mouth and make me out to be some kind of evil, satanist black magician. Why have you become so focused on attacking me instead of focusing on your work?, do you not see that with every moment focused on me you are allowing me to control your thoughts and emotions, this little experience of yours seems to me to have made you into some kind of egomanic who is trying to take control and lead this forum ever since you got your computer fixed and you do it by atttacking me? All I've ever done is help, check back at some of your posts, how many times have you asked for my opinion on things? Many many times....
And still after all the negative things you've said about me I continue to send you good will and love as with all members of this forum, sound satanic? I want to make the world a better place, not control it. I have a very pure heart I am not motivated by power and ego, that seems to be your department, it seems in the end you are just some kind of computer nerd/geek who needs this forum as a place to express yourself and make yourself seem self important, like a guy who becomes a cop to get back at the guys who picked on him in high school, what did you say once when they made you a moderator on this forum that you were the prison guard from Shawshank Redeemption, I'll say so,... so let me ask you a question, you didn't ask for my help? That's not what the history says and so my question to you is....who asked for yours? who appointed you to be the voice of this forum and try to control it . The other forum members are right you only speak in riddles, why not think about getting back to some practical lab alchemy, working through some RAMs material and posting results and pictures, that seems to be your strongest suit, and I enjoyed your lab work very much, and not afraid to say I even learned some from it, I've told you that in the past which just served to further inflate your ego it seems, but I moved past you very fast because you never finish anything and because I had a clearer vision of what to look for and what to begin with, the universal spirit both in myself and in my practise of the redeemption of matter and releasing its imprisoned light .... maybe you should leave the interpretations and clarifications to others who have a stronger skill set for that if you are really interested in helping others,.... all of that is only recommendations of course, do what you like, after all it is a PUBLIC forum, and if its was your intent to piss me off and scare me off then, sorry it won't work, my voice deserves to be heard as well and so does everbody elses, you are killing the flow of chi through this forum with your attacks of me, please if you can't say anything nice about me in the future then please just leave me out of your posts,..... in respect for you I will do the same. As always I continue to send all peace and light.
Once again sorry you think I am trying to take complete credit for any advancement you've had, but once again you can not deny me completely, doing so and you deny part of yourself, but it is quite obvious that the voice in your head is not mine or anything at all like mine. Mine speaks clearly, humbly and without any regard or aspirations for people to think about me in any elevated sense, you on the other hand would have us believe you've been chosen and contacted by some kind of entity and we should pay homage to you, why else even start this thread, its focused soley on you, think about it,.... who has the ego issues, oh solomon please lead us, teach us, give us your wisdom....sound like what you really want to hear from me, oh yea I think it is......

solomon levi
07-16-2010, 11:17 PM
WOW,....ok...where did all of that come from? It seems you've chosen to put words and thoughts into my mouth and make me out to be some kind of evil, satanist black magician. Why have you become so focused on attacking me instead of focusing on your work?,

I'm still very focused on my work. If you'd pay attention, I posted a "correction" where I now understand the oak as well as the fleece. And
it isn't because of you. Albion sent me something that my spirit was able to
make use of. Ghislain made a post about Basalt a short time ago that led
me to revelation. Do you want to take credit for all of us - Albion, Ghislain,
Salazius, Androgynus, Green Lion... all these people have inspired me
directly. Why would you call it your voice in my head?

Quote Leo: "the voice in your head is mine,"

I'm sorry - is there more than one way to interpret that?

Yes, you followed it with "or like mine", but why would there be any
confusion about that at all?




do you not see that with every moment focused on me you are allowing me to control your thoughts and emotions,


No, I don't see it that way. I'm sure you would since you imagine you control everyone.
In fact, you seeing it that way shows how delusional you are. If anything,
one would say my own ego is controlling me - not you. But you say it is you controlling me. Isn't that odd? Doesn't that say something about your mindset?



this little experience of yours seems to me to have made you into some kind of egomanic who is trying to take control and lead this forum ever since you got your computer fixed and you do it by atttacking me?


Oh - so now it's my little experience. Funny how you were unclear about that before. If you would have said that in the first place we wouldn't be here.

I am not leading anybody. I am sharing what i see, because it's my nature to
share. Nature shares. To withhold is to perish.
If I have used some force in the Practical forum, it is only that I encourage
people to consider other options.
It makes sense that someone who wants to control the forum would interpret
me as a threat trying to do the same.




All I've ever done is help, check back at some of your posts, how many times have you asked for my opinion on things? Many many times....



I've already posted how you do more than help. You try to take credit for what spirit has done. And no - I haven't asked you for your opinion many many times. The posts are here - why not collect them and see how many times. If I am asking so much, why do magick behind my back?
Guess I wasn't asking for your help enough?? So you'll force it on me??

Which is it? Am I asking, or am I not asking?
I'll tell you now. I don't need your help. And you are not responsible for
where i am. Nothing you have "helped" me with led to my understanding.
That is evident from the posts. Here, I'll show you:

I wrote this 4 weeks ago: "Hi Leo.
I'm not in a hurry. I'm just saying, to know all things is a long path - like an infinity of lifetimes. ALL, not just some. It would take forever.
My experiences with non-duality show me that knowing the All through the One is a much shorter path. I doubt that knowing the One through the All ever actually happens. One probably reaches a threshold (sp?) and the One becomes apparent, and that threshold is but a mere fraction of the All.

But that's just one way of talking. We already are the One-All/All-One.


I can read your posts, but I still don't know the info like you know it, because you've earned it. You walked a much longer path than just the 20 or 40 minutes to write the post. You know how understanding builds upon understanding, insight upon insight.

Those guys are right about understanding the quality before the matter.

I'll really study your post(s) and intend to know it as my own.

Thank you very much.
sol"

I wasn't asking for your help. In fact, GL and Androgynus were helping me by
telling me to look at qualities instead of matters. You misinterpreted me,
thinking i was in a hurry. I wasn't even looking for the first matter or second matter. You were impatient with me, because you have always imagined you need to help me. That's why you left a long time ago and came back.




And still after all the negative things you've said about me I continue to send you good will and love as with all members of this forum, sound satanic? I want to make the world a better place, not control it. I have a very pure heart I am not motivated by power and ego, that seems to be your department, it seems in the end you are just some kind of computer nerd/geek who needs this forum as a place to express yourself and make yourself seem self important, like a guy who becomes a cop to get back at the guys who picked on him in high school, what did you say once when they made you a moderator on this forum that you were the prison guard from Shawshank Redeemption, I'll say so,... so let me ask you a question, you didn't ask for my help? That's not what the history says and so my question to you is....who asked for yours? who appointed you to be the voice of this forum and try to control it . The other forum members are right you only speak in riddles, why not think about getting back to some practical lab alchemy, working through some RAMs material and posting results and pictures, that seems to be your strongest suit, and I enjoyed your lab work very much, and not afraid to say I even learned some from it, I've told you that in the past which just served to further inflate your ego it seems, but I moved past you very fast because you never finish anything and because I had a clearer vision of what to look for and what to begin with, the universal spirit both in myself and in my practise of the redeemption of matter and releasing its imprisoned light .... maybe you should leave the interpretations and clarifications to others who have a stronger skill set for that if you are really interested in helping others,.... all of that is only recommendations of course, do what you like, after all it is a PUBLIC forum, and if its was your intent to piss me off and scare me off then, sorry it won't work, my voice deserves to be heard as well and so does everbody elses, you are killing the flow of chi through this forum with your attacks of me, please if you can't say anything nice about me in the future then please just leave me out of your posts,..... in respect for you I will do the same. As always I continue to send all peace and light.
Once again sorry you think I am trying to take complete credit for any advancement you've had, but once again you can not deny me completely, doing so and you deny part of yourself, but it is quite obvious that the voice in your head is not mine or anything at all like mine. Mine speaks clearly, humbly and without any regard or aspirations for people to think about me in any elevated sense, you on the other hand would have us believe you've been chosen and contacted by some kind of entity and we should pay homage to you, why else even start this thread, its focused soley on you, think about it,.... who has the ego issues, oh solomon please lead us, teach us, give us your wisdom....sound like what you really want to hear from me, oh yea I think it is......


I know Leo. You're all good and I'm all bad. That makes sense.
Fine. You can have the forum if you think I am interested in it.
I'll say my goodbyes and I won't post here again. Let's see if you can do the same.

solomon

Aleilius
07-18-2010, 03:45 AM
I'm feeling kind of left out from this! Where can I enter the battle? Is there some kind of form I need to fill out? That was never my strong suit. Figures as much!

No single person is responsible for another person's fate. We are responsible for our own fate. Others may help to guide us along the path, offer a nudge, but they most certainly do not create the path, nor do they carry out the same journey. We all have our own journey. We all have our own route. To say that I am responsible for any others fate is completely erroneous, and shows a lack of something rather tasteful.

With this being said, it's funny that LR mentioned the whole manipulation thing. I have had this idea in my head for a few years now. A few weeks ago I posted this: "I believe I should dedicate my life to immanentizing the eschaton. I will find a way to manipulate the life stream of the planet, and to manipulate the collective unconsciousness of humanity! It is the only way."

Of course, what I say is much different than: "I am about to take the white gloves off and unleash my consciousness on the whole world but this time through the universal mind I will spread like a virus and infect everyone, I'm like the Lawnmower Man"

My goal is the restoration of humanity. My goal is to see the fulfillment of humanities salvation. I seek the restoration of Eden. I seek the revelation of Heaven on Earth. I seek the ending of all pain, and sorrow. I seek to bring the joys of eternal bliss, and heavenly nirvana to all of mankind. I seek to bring humanity to its first original glory. I seek the restoration of the universal language, and the interconnectedness of all minds. All will become one, and one will become all. These are my goals, and they are actively being pursued.

There will be no "virus," and no "infection." Such words only bring an unneeded gleam of negativity.

Solomon: Do not worry yourself with all these detractors, and naysayers. To find Truth in the Word is to find Truth in all things. It is the Way, and the only Way. In this beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. It is through the Word that God's Divine Will shall be carried out on Earth. It is through the Word that those with Understanding shall Understand, and those with Hearing shall Hear. Those with Understanding & Hearing shall preach forth the Word to those without. The Word is for all, and the Great Plan shall be done.

Over, and over, I slave.

Aleilius
07-18-2010, 04:01 AM
... and if its was your intent to piss me off and scare me off then, sorry it won't work, my voice deserves to be heard as well and so does everbody elses, you are killing the flow of chi through this forum with your attacks of me ...
I do not understand how you can make such a claim. How is Solomon Levi "killing the flow of chi?" That's ridiculous. The "chi" will "flow" regardless of what you do, what I do, or what Solomon Levi does.


... Mine speaks clearly, humbly and without any regard or aspirations for people to think about me in any elevated sense ...
I do not believe this to be the case.


... who has the ego issues, oh solomon please lead us, teach us, give us your wisdom....sound like what you really want to hear from me, oh yea I think it is......
Jesus said, "You see the sliver in your friend's eye, but you don't see the timber in your own eye. When you take the timber out of your own eye, then you will see well enough to remove the sliver from your friend's eye."

vega33
07-18-2010, 07:41 PM
Finally got around to finishing reading this epic battle of Mortal Kombat. Thanks guys! Endlessly entertaining! Where do I sign up to look like the cosmic guy in Sol's post? I guess I need to talk to Jack Black :D.

Now Leo, if you want to be the lawnmower man, you'll need to learn a lot more about bluetooth hacking and wifi exploits in order to get all those phones to ring. And teledildonics. Don't forget about that! ;-)

Excuse me while I go grab my handkerchief so I can get back to meditating. The smell of BS is a little rich around these parts... :eek:

Andro
07-28-2010, 07:47 AM
Vega,

You might find all this very entertaining as long as your name hasn't been called up to literally enter the circle of fire. Both Sol and Leo know EXACTLY which circle of fire I'm talking about. You are speaking from your comfort zone, which you're masterfully coating in a mantle of comic relief - quite bad in taste IMO.

Sol and Leo are going through strong revelatory experiences, each in his own way. It is GOOD that they can express these things here and go through the initiations that come with these revelations.

I know Sol and I know Leo, and I have learned much through and from both of them. I respect their individuality and I understand that they may choose ways of self-expression which may not be to everyone's liking. But I skip the form and scan the content instead. More often than not, it is worth the while.

They both have shared more than enough on these forums to back up their experiences. (Unlike virtual ink-spilling comedians like horticult, for example, and yourself as well more recently in some posts).

The only thing that smells of BS here is your lack of tact and your misplaced 'comic relief' remarks. You are ridiculing real, powerful emotional experiences and revelations with your childish approach to this Initiatory Field.

Humor definitely has its place and importance. But so do timing, dosage and discernment.

Joy
07-28-2010, 07:42 PM
Glad you wrote your point here Androgynus, may be you can help me to understand,
since you can work on the astral plane.

See, I could follow Solomon very good, cause I was able to touch his symbol.
Now Leo wanted in the begin to join the experiment, but he did not place a symbol or came in the topic again.

The best way magic works, if both open up a channel to each other and with
agreement. So when Leo suddenly wrote, that his voice spoke in Solomons head,
so please tell me how this works, without him being connected with us.

I still have to learn a lot ... Joy:)

Andro
07-28-2010, 08:04 PM
Hi Joy :)

I wasn't commenting on the astral connections here, but on the initiatory value of the experiences we have witnessed in the recent exchanges.

Astral bridges do not necessarily need to be connected with symbols. I also do not wish to comment on how it is possible to do one thing or another.

What I do wish to convey is that I do not doubt the noble intentions of both sides in this Initiatory Field we have witnessed.

Maybe it didn't happen in the most Balanced way, but it happened this way because it needed to happen this way, because certain energies NEEDED to be released in order to move on and make constructive progress.


I still have to learn a lot...

So do I... always...

:)

vega33
07-29-2010, 06:50 AM
Vega,

You might find all this very entertaining as long as your name hasn't been called up to literally enter the circle of fire. Both Sol and Leo know EXACTLY which circle of fire I'm talking about. You are speaking from your comfort zone, which you're masterfully coating in a mantle of comic relief - quite bad in taste IMO.

Sol and Leo are going through strong revelatory experiences, each in his own way. It is GOOD that they can express these things here and go through the initiations that come with these revelations.

I know Sol and I know Leo, and I have learned much through and from both of them. I respect their individuality and I understand that they may choose ways of self-expression which may not be to everyone's liking. But I skip the form and scan the content instead. More often than not, it is worth the while.

They both have shared more than enough on these forums to back up their experiences. (Unlike virtual ink-spilling comedians like horticult, for example, and yourself as well more recently in some posts).

The only thing that smells of BS here is your lack of tact and your misplaced 'comic relief' remarks. You are ridiculing real, powerful emotional experiences and revelations with your childish approach to this Initiatory Field.

Humor definitely has its place and importance. But so do timing, dosage and discernment.

You assume I haven't entered this "circle of fire".

You are sadly mistaken. How dare you insinuate and claim to know the contents of my own gnostic experience. How dare you to act the high and mighty arbitrator when you know nothing of my experience in these realms.

Again, seek help for your ego problem.

Andro
07-29-2010, 07:16 AM
You assume I haven't entered this "circle of fire".

Maybe you've entered the toy/children's 'hula-hoop' (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hula_hoop) version of it, if your 'gnostic experience' is in any way reflected in the tone and logic of your posts.

I will not be dragged down into this incoherent field of reasoning.

You're so much better at it, I'm sure you'll find fitting and equally trigger-happy partners.

Farewell.

solomon levi
07-29-2010, 11:43 AM
Glad you wrote your point here Androgynus, may be you can help me to understand,
since you can work on the astral plane.

See, I could follow Solomon very good, cause I was able to touch his symbol.
Now Leo wanted in the begin to join the experiment, but he did not place a symbol or came in the topic again.

The best way magic works, if both open up a channel to each other and with
agreement. So when Leo suddenly wrote, that his voice spoke in Solomons head,
so please tell me how this works, without him being connected with us.

I still have to learn a lot ... Joy:)


It doesn't work. I never had Leo's voice in my head. I'm not sitting here
passively receiving voices. I focus my attention on whatever I want and
I get answers (I am shown things). It has nothing to do with Leo or with
voices. I have visions, waking dreams. I've studied Castaneda longer than
I've studied alchemy. Why would anyone confuse the voice of dreaming
or second attention (as Toltecs call it) with Leo?
So anyone can claim their voice is in my head and you'll believe them?
It's MY head. I know it better than any of you.
And I've told you who I commune with.
But i guess my first-hand direct observations mean nothing to you.

:rolleyes:

solomon levi
07-29-2010, 01:28 PM
How dare you insinuate and claim to know the contents of my own gnostic experience. How dare you to act the high and mighty arbitrator when you know nothing of my experience in these realms.

Again, seek help for your ego problem.


This is a response (to myself, no one, spirit, whoever listens???) .


Knowing a tree by its fruit is not such a mysterious concept, nor does it
require an ego problem.
It's not Vega particularly that I'm speaking about - but the mind that thinks
"You don't know me" or some similar thought.


As within, so without....
A tree is known by its fruit....

These are sayings that describe a very precise law.
Some people are aware of that law and utilise it, and some aren't/don't.

In my experience, the more I know myself, the more i know/can see others.
Initially, this "knowing" can be a problem, as it fixes oneself and one's world. Our 'knowledge' of someone 'tinctures' our experience of/with them.
But if you know, and love, yourself enough, you've seen that everything
happens the way it has to happen - so there is no judgment in this seeing,
and the 'knowledge' is no longer capable of 'fixing' or 'defining'... who would
be so foolish as to define a person by such a narrow slice of time?
Well, I would! sometimes. As you can see by previous posts in this
thread. And that's part of The All too.

Ego? No ego?
Problem? No problem?

Again, these words don't really mean anything. Ego, for example, is one
way out of billions to measure the world. Why give it some imaginary
precedence or authority? I could just as arbitrarily say that the person
with the longest fingernails should be greatest.

But to each his/her own. We 'choose' our battles. It doesn't make them
any more objectively real or valid. I'll keep battling that Leo's voice isn't
in my head, because that path has heart for me. I think it's a huge
disservice to humanity for anyone to believe that Leo, or anyone, is the
mediator between oneself and one's Self/god/spirit/anima mundi/green lady...
etc, etc, etc.... some have objected to my use of the word "satanic" to describe
such an idea, but if THAT isn't satanic - in all the negative connotations
of the word - then what is/could be??? What worser thing can there be
than to come between a man and his Self/deity? I can't think of anything
worse. "The divine is not in you. It's MY voice... Leo, Demiurge, Satan,
Billy Graham, Jim Jones, Jesus Christ, ..."
I don't care who/what you name it. It's bullshit.

Spirit has ALWAYS been my source. It doesn't just pop up when something
wonderful happens and say "I'm responsible for that". It is there for everything.

Ghislain
07-29-2010, 02:04 PM
What worser thing can there be than to come between a man and his Self/deity?

That puts me in mind of the severing of a persons Dśmon in Philip Pullman's,
"His Dark Materials" triolgy. \o/

Ghislain

Joy
07-29-2010, 07:15 PM
Solomon... I am deeply sorry, since I believe truly in your visions.

My mistake was, that I took this case to get an opinion about a magical question
from Androgynos.
Everything which has to do with the human mind, how it functions and how we
can develop it, is in my deepest interest.

Again... I am deeply sorry but this experiment in the invisible college ..gave me
later on more deeper insights, which I could not share yet ...

Hope you forgive me... Joy:)

solomon levi
07-30-2010, 03:13 AM
Hi Joy.
Thank you.
I'm sorry too.
Without your encouragement, the Invisible College
probably wouldn't have gone as far as it did.
I am grateful to you. :)

sol

Andro
07-31-2010, 09:28 PM
My mistake was, that I took this case to get an opinion about a magical question from Androgynus.
Everything which has to do with the human mind, how it functions and how we can develop it, is in my deepest interest.

Hi again, Joy -

I'm sorry I can't answer your question publicly, but you are welcome to PM me on this rather complex issue.

Sincerely, and with genuine appreciation for your interest,

A.

solomon levi
12-04-2010, 08:42 PM
What I have called "the green mind" I have done so based on my own observations.
I was not aware of anyone else using a similar term, although the "green man" is appropriate as well.
Anyway, I'm just bringing it up because i found another with similar visions of green:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viriditas

Hildegard von Bingen coined the word "Veriditas", a combo of veritas/truth and viridity/green,
just as i have related greeness to Venus and the 5th chakra which is called 'truth' by some.

Another site says this:
"The great 12th century mystic, healer and philosopher, Hildegard von Bingen, created the word Veriditas to
describe her vision of the greening power of Nature, the divine force within all life.
Veriditas is also the "greening of the mind", the growth of intelligence and spiritual insight through understanding
of Nature, or as Hildegard put it:
"Understanding in the soul is like the Veriditas of the branches and the leaves of the tree."
In fact, Hildegard's word, Veriditas, contains within it two Latin words- "green" and "truth". Her creation of a synergistic
concept combining Nature's manifest vitality and humankind's discernment shows a wisdom and insight that is especially valuable today."


I haven't found much else on it, but it's nice to not be alone on this.

Donna Matrix
12-06-2010, 01:53 AM
Hildegard was an amazing person. She was given as a tithe to the church. As well as being a great abbess, she was a mystic, healer and composed several musical pieces of astoundingly beautific music that were considered discordant in their day. I believe she was also a chastiser of the church hierarchy. Matthew Fox, the great heretical theologian, adored her and quoted her often. I can't remember who did it, but within the last 15 years a recording was made of her music in catacombs with profound and haunting acoustical results. Just from her music, you can tell she knew a thing or two about God and Nature.