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True Initiate
09-06-2010, 10:57 PM
Here is a simple and inexpensive way to build a operative destilliation setup for beginners.Thank's go to Seth-Ra for reminding me of the "Guerilla Alchemy".

Materials:

The chinese teapot

http://img17.imagevenue.com/loc378/th_13322_Picture65_122_378lo.jpg (http://img17.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=13322_Picture65_122_378lo.jpg)

Liqour bottle (it was Mozart liqour)

http://img245.imagevenue.com/loc193/th_13354_Picture72_122_193lo.jpg (http://img245.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=13354_Picture72_122_193lo.jpg)

Drinking glas

http://img131.imagevenue.com/loc200/th_13388_Picture82_122_200lo.jpg (http://img131.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=13388_Picture82_122_200lo.jpg)

"Sand-cupel"

http://img198.imagevenue.com/loc348/th_13410_Picture84_122_348lo.jpg (http://img198.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=13410_Picture84_122_348lo.jpg)

So here it is:
True Puffer's destilliation equipment for neophytes!

http://img137.imagevenue.com/loc385/th_13470_Picture90_122_385lo.jpg (http://img137.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=13470_Picture90_122_385lo.jpg)

http://img260.imagevenue.com/loc154/th_13495_Picture94_122_154lo.jpg (http://img260.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=13495_Picture94_122_154lo.jpg)

http://img167.imagevenue.com/loc121/th_13517_Picture96_122_121lo.jpg (http://img167.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=13517_Picture96_122_121lo.jpg)

Good luck!

Salazius
09-07-2010, 10:19 AM
Excellent !

SNODGRJL
09-07-2010, 08:21 PM
What a brilliant idea!

horticult
09-07-2010, 10:32 PM
& my centrifuge separator is from a mason jar, sieve & cord.

Serpent
11-16-2010, 06:01 PM
Hi guys. That is definitely guerilla .
I had a question about purchasing a good distillation set up to start working on plant alchemy as instructed by the PON course. I came across this kit for beginners, and wanted your opinions on it. It's pros and cons. It looks ok, but I'm wondering if it would have issues, because I can't see where I would put the thermometer in the Kjeldahl bulb.

http://www.hometrainingtools.com/deluxe-distallation-apparatus-kit/p/CE-DIKIT2B/

True Initiate
11-17-2010, 12:53 AM
http://img246.imagevenue.com/loc70/th_53752_CE_DIKIT2B_122_70lo.jpg (http://img246.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=53752_CE_DIKIT2B_122_70lo.jpg)
Ok
It's pro is cheap price it's con is that is a fractional distillation system (it's not tightly closed) and a lot of spirit escapes to the air.
I suggest you also buy and use a "Claisen Head" instead of a rubber stopper and Kjeldahl bulb and you can put thermometer in it.

This is "Claisen Head"

http://img191.imagevenue.com/loc235/th_54744_claisen_122_235lo.jpg (http://img191.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=54744_claisen_122_235lo.jpg)

On the other end use "Vakuumvorsto▀ (i don't know how it is called in English):

http://img173.imagevenue.com/loc370/th_54981_7_I1_0001_kl_122_370lo.jpg (http://img173.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=th_54981_7_I1_0001_kl_122_370lo.jpg)

So in the end it should look like this (click on the link below):

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_DNhuAChHEbE/TABsCHpkzQI/AAAAAAAAB7M/dtDhiPg26V4/s1600/Eshleman+-+distillation_apparatus.svg.png

Serpent
11-17-2010, 01:13 AM
Thank you for your reply. I see. So the Claisen head is number 3 and the Vakuumvorsto is number 10?

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_DNhuAChHEbE/TABsCHpkzQI/AAAAAAAAB7M/dtDhiPg26V4/s1600/Eshleman+-+distillation_apparatus.svg.png

Is there a good place you recommend to purchase this and distillation pieces for a reasonable price? I am just starting so I'm trying to keep it simple.

True Initiate
11-17-2010, 01:22 AM
Thank you for your reply. I see. So the Claisen head is number 3 and the Vakuumvorsto is number 10?

Correct.



Is there a good place you recommend to purchase this and distillation pieces for a reasonable price? I am just starting so I'm trying to keep it simple.

I purchase my equipment from second hand sellers (mostly chemistry students) in Germany but that will be too expensive if you live outside Europe.
I suggest E-Bay or some other second hand platform or try to use Google search with the keywords like "second hand chemistry set" or "Claisen Head" and so on.

Serpent
11-17-2010, 01:30 AM
Correct.



I purchase my equipment from second hand sellers (mostly chemistry students) in Germany but that will be too expensive if you live outside Europe.
I suggest E-Bay or some other second hand platform or try to use Google search with the keywords like "second hand chemistry set" or "Claisen Head" and so on.

Thank you again True Puffer! Yes it wouldn't be practical for me to purchase from Germany. The nice thing about "kits" is that it comes with everything, but as many say, the quality of the pieces would not be satisfactory for serious alchemy work.

When one buys glassware pieces form different sources, is there ever a problem with the joints fitting together? I imagine that there could be issues like that?

True Initiate
11-17-2010, 01:59 AM
Today we have standardized sizes of the joints like NS 14 or NS 29.So ask the seller which size does the joint have.
In worst case you can make a hole in rubber stoper to "fit" the right size.

I forgot to add that the best source of information you can find on some chemistry forum because they are much more active than alchemists!

Serpent
11-17-2010, 03:13 AM
Today we have standardized sizes of the joints like NS 14 or NS 29.So ask the seller which size does the joint have.
In worst case you can make a hole in rubber stoper to "fit" the right size.

I forgot to add that the best source of information you can find on some chemistry forum because they are much more active than alchemists!


Thank you TruePuffer. I will look around the net more, to see what i can find, and come back here for your feedback. Thanks!

MarkostheGnostic
11-19-2010, 12:54 AM
http://forum.alchemyforums.com/album.php?albumid=22&attachmentid=467

A combination of new glassware given to me by a science teacher with whom I work, a lattice I made in the 9th grade, one of my mom's mixing bowls, all on a break-away table from scrap wood.

Serpent
11-22-2010, 09:38 PM
That is awesome Markos. Very creative.

psykopanther
01-21-2014, 01:52 AM
Very nice simple setup. One question is that the setup does not seem airtight? Should we not always distill in a sealed setup?

Eshai
05-16-2014, 04:05 PM
I guess I am in cheap mode today. Here's the ubsercheapenstein distillery:

http://thenaptimechroniclesdotcom.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/photo-5.jpg

The clear pot lid is turn over, ice placed on top. A cup is placed inside to capture distillate.
If you're really, really cheap... ice is optional.