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Sir William Helmsley
01-03-2011, 08:07 AM
Tally-ho!

Greetings fellow alchemists! Allow me to introduce myself, I art Sir William Helmsley , a chemical engineer and metallurgist.

Through mine ages of devoted studies to understanding thee properties of thee elements, I have developed a means to produce 24K gold via particle acceleration, profitably--- in mine own homestead.

Altho, nay-sayers be cursed, I shalt nae reveal unto thou thee exacted process therein to create thee beautyful element, for hence I shall loseth all myne bounty! But I can reveal unto thou some insight into thee process:

I hath built a small particle accelerator in mine own homestead, but canst nae reveal its plans to thee ... I useth lithium particles to "bombardier" osmium (thee likes of which is vary expensive!) , to create Au

http://i651.photobucket.com/albums/uu232/8high/myworkspace.jpg

and thy proof!

http://i651.photobucket.com/albums/uu232/8high/goldonscale.jpg

Huzzah!

-Sir William Helmsley

Aleilius
01-03-2011, 08:14 AM
Very interesting good sir!

Can we get up-close images of that gold nugget you have on the scale?

Have you noticed any radioactive decay? Is the gold stable? I'm surprised you were able to make profit from this. Osmium is pretty expensive, and I think it's worth more than gold at this point. Does it act like gold? Is it malleable (as opposed to Hudson's recovered gold that would shatter like glass)?

If I weren't such a believer I would have to call BS! ;)

Frater IA
01-03-2011, 09:12 AM
I too am interested in this. Not, however, for the sake of profit, but for spiritual applications towards the great work.

LivingStone
01-09-2011, 11:14 PM
Anyone can place couple of things on a table and claim is has made, Gold....

Aleilius
01-10-2011, 12:48 PM
Anyone can place couple of things on a table and claim is has made, Gold....

Yeah, I'm not buying it until the OP backs up his claim. There's no profit to be made here! Osmium is more expensive than gold per gram.

Just because we're alchemists doesn't mean we're gullible. ;)

theFool
01-10-2011, 02:10 PM
Those reactions do not work because of the Coulomb barrier (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coulomb_barrier) that the ions have to overcome in order to form higher nucleus. A rough estimation gives around 10^(-11)Joules per atom. 10 picojoules per atom! This is enormous amount of energy. In order to make one mol of Au, you need to draw energy from the electric grid comparable to a small nuclear bomb. And of course, all this energy will not stay in the nucleaus, there will be some sort of gamma decay ..

I'm not saying it is impossible, but Sir, if this is true, you have discovered some super-physics! Explain yourself.

Aleilius
01-10-2011, 02:47 PM
Those reactions do not work because of the Coulomb barrier (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coulomb_barrier) that the ions have to overcome in order to form higher nucleus. A rough estimation gives around 10^(-11)Joules per atom. 10 picojoules per atom! This is enormous amount of energy. In order to make one mol of Au, you need to draw energy from the electric grid comparable to a small nuclear bomb. And of course, all this energy will not stay in the nucleaus, there will be some sort of gamma decay ..

I'm not saying it is impossible, but Sir, if this is true, you have discovered some super-physics! Explain yourself.

Yeah, hahaha!

Transmutation of elements via alchemy (evolution of base metals to silver/gold) is much different than what science would have you believe.

theFool
01-10-2011, 04:03 PM
Yeah, hahaha!

Transmutation of elements via alchemy (evolution of base metals to silver/gold) is much different than what science would have you believe.

He is talking about simply accelerating Li, Os atoms. Not alchemy, not cold fusion, not even some catalyst .. Scientists were doing those experiments back at '30-'40 it doesn't work in practice.

It is not very difficult to build a particle accelerator in your garage (fusor) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fusor), capable of nuclear fission, the problem is that you produce materials at nanogram - microgram scale.

Aleilius
01-10-2011, 04:15 PM
It is not very difficult to build a particle accelerator in your garage (fusor) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fusor), capable of nuclear fission, the problem is that you produce materials at nanogram - microgram scale.
Yup, scaling it up to gram levels would require tremendous energy.

solomon levi
01-19-2011, 12:28 AM
I tried to duplicate this process but I was left with copper instead of gold.
What a rip-off! :D

http://i38.servimg.com/u/f38/12/78/17/61/pict0724.jpg

http://i38.servimg.com/u/f38/12/78/17/61/pict0725.jpg

Well, it's a good thing I have about 89 pounds of Osmium left. I'll keep trying!

Aleilius
01-19-2011, 01:11 AM
Well, it's a good thing I have about 89 pounds of Osmium left. I'll keep trying!
Spare some for the poor please! I'll be happy to take a pound or two off your hands. That's some money right there. :D