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Ghislain
06-14-2011, 07:25 PM
I was just sitting out on the balcony minding my own business when I realised I could see tiny little
dots of bright light zooming around in front of my eyes...they are constantly in motion and seem to
appear, last a few moments, some shooting off like tiny meteors others just zipping about, then
they are gone, replaced with new ones.

To see them best I had to look to the sky, close my eyes to tiny gaps so that I could see the floaty
stuff in my eyes ( I think it may be bits of dust floating across on them...not sure), then look beyond
the floaty stuff and itís like electric daphnia (but much smaller) darting about everywhere.

Just popped out to see if I could see it again and it is still there...when you see the floaty things on
your eye just wait a moment and they begin to come into focus.

I Googled it and there are a lot of people who have seen this too.

Just tried it again...once I got them I managed to slowly open my eyes and keep the focus on them.
If I looked away from the sky they disappeared.

I want to get someone else to try and see them...make sure its not something wrong with my eyes :)

Anyone know what this is?

Ghislain

horticult
06-14-2011, 10:25 PM
y

& u can go even further:
concentrate your eyes on some suitable cloud - it will belittle & then disappear!

Albion
06-14-2011, 10:28 PM
Phosphenes?

Wikipedia "Phosphene" entry:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phosphene



The Soma Code PDF

I haven't read this yet - so I'm not particularly endorsing the overall content. Just following the link-trail you triggered.
The book has numerous references to phosphenes. Download the PDF, open the "search" feature, and type in "phosphene"

http://www.ejvs.laurasianacademy.com/ejvs0803/ejvs0803.pdf

I seem to recall that Salvador Dali saw them a lot - although I believe he applied palm-pressure to his closed eyes.

http://www.bigpainters.com/albums/Salvador%20Dali/normal_1979_12_Phosphene,_1979.jpg

"Phosphene" by Salvador Dali

Ghislain
06-14-2011, 11:42 PM
I seem to recall that Salvador Dali saw them a lot - although I believe he applied palm-pressure to his closed eyes.

Hi Albion

I know what you mean above, but this is nothing like the pressure on the eye thing...it's constant, doesn't
seem to fade...

I wish I could explain it better but I'm sure most people will be able to see it...its just a question of being patient like
looking at one of those Stereograms.

If you get it try and watch one dot...they appear travel around then disappear, but in just a fraction of a second.

Here is a video of a large diffusion cloud chamberwith radon gas double-decaying. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Efgy1bV2aQo)

At first there is just background radiation...imagine that without the traces of the chamber so you just see points of light that make the traces.
Thats about the best explanation I can give and thats not great :(

Ghisalin

Rueb
06-15-2011, 12:33 AM
Hi Gishlain,

oh that gas chamber (1st stage, just background radiation) demonstrates these sights quite nicely for me.
I "see" them usually when going outside after staying in one building for a long time also I notice them heftier at night. They are white "flashes" afterall ...

But it seems to be just that ... radiation.
When astronauts are exposed to higher radiation levels they notice them as well.
ah here it is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_ray_visual_phenomena

Rueb

3+O(
06-15-2011, 12:40 AM
Just tried it again...once I got them I managed to slowly open my eyes and keep the focus on them.
If I looked away from the sky they disappeared.

I want to get someone else to try and see them...make sure its not something wrong with my eyes :)

I know what you are talking about, but I do not know the cause. My opthamologist has told me before that if the phosphenes suddenly increase greatly in number or intensity, or are persistent, it can be a warning sign of retinal detachment, but I do not believe the low level ones induced by focusing your eyes in a particular way are harmful. They can also originate in the optic nerve or even the visual cortex itself which is why they can also be produced by migraines, where the eye itself is not affected.

Ghislain
06-15-2011, 02:16 PM
I wish I could explain what I am seeing better...they are not flashes of light...they are tiny tiny specs of white light that appear move about then disappear there are many of them at any one time and all move in different directions.

Is that what you're seeing? who knows? Because you don't know what I'm seeing...catch 22. One needs to be able to see through the others eyes. ;)

I got a few people to do it at work today and they got it.

Ghislain

3+O(
06-15-2011, 02:36 PM
Is that what you're seeing? who knows? Because you don't know what I'm seeing...catch 22. One needs to be able to see through the others eyes. ;)

Haha, you're right of course! But what you describe sounds about right, particularly if you can voluntarily produce the effect. I think only if such photisms persist against your will are they an indication of a problem.

solomon levi
06-15-2011, 05:31 PM
Hi Ghislain.
I see them too. They're best seen on clear sunny days against the blue sky.
White lights, as you say, but I would add the movement - for me they are mostly
looping quickly in circles, clockwise and counter-clockwise. But not continuing in
the circle but almost completing a circle and then changing direction to circle the other way...
They remind me of little sperms but smaller and the tails aren't as long, but they sort of
wiggle the same way, only completing more of a circle. It's possible they are enfolding and
unfolding from some other dimension.

The lady who wrote this book describes them as well as a stage of seeing auras:
http://www.amazon.com/Hands-Light-Healing-Through-Energy/dp/0553345397/ref=pd_bxgy_b_img_b

Perhaps you'll find this interesting, although it is not quite the description I was referring to
in her book: http://www.energyenhancement.org/Human-Aura-psychology/handsoflight1.htm

I've seen these since I was young. When I was little I asked my dad if it's possible to see
atoms, 'cause that's what I thought I was seeing.

Ghislain
06-15-2011, 08:09 PM
particularly if you can voluntarily produce the effect.

3+O( I dont produce the effect, the dots are there but these things are so tiny you have to get your focus right to see them.


They're best seen on clear sunny days against the blue sky.

I totally agree Sol...tried to see them today, it was overcast and although I could see them it was difficult to concentrate and hold them there.
Especially as a fly came to watch and was buzzing around my field of vision. C'est la vie :)


It's possible they are enfolding and unfolding from some other dimension.

Thats a feeling I had...but as I was not sure if it is a natural phenomena of the optic nerve I kept quiet. :) <- coward

3+O( & Rueb, do you still think we are talking of the same phenomena?

Thanks for the links Sol

Here is one I would like explained Proof of Chi (Qi) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7ht1VXVg5s).

Ghislain

Edit: after trying the exercise in the vid...try slowly putting your hands together....thats weird :)

solomon levi
06-16-2011, 03:23 AM
For clarification, this is not something produced voluntarily (by the mind)
but a real seeing of something that is there, and it's just more prevalent
on sunny days. This is also different from seeing that material on the lens
of the eye which moves away as you try to look at it. These little guys
are uniformly dispersed everywhere, a sea of swimming lights with short tails,
constantly in motion.
It has nothing to do with pressing on the eyes to make an effect either.

It's like looking at something under a microscope and seeing a world of tiny
dots with tails swimming around in yin-yang semi-circles...

Seth-Ra
06-16-2011, 10:08 PM
For clarification, this is not something produced voluntarily (by the mind)
but a real seeing of something that is there, and it's just more prevalent
on sunny days. This is also different from seeing that material on the lens
of the eye which moves away as you try to look at it. These little guys
are uniformly dispersed everywhere, a sea of swimming lights with short tails,
constantly in motion.
It has nothing to do with pressing on the eyes to make an effect either.

It's like looking at something under a microscope and seeing a world of tiny
dots with tails swimming around in yin-yang semi-circles...

Id have to agree. When i was little i noticed these, me and a friend, and we stared up at the clear blue sky and watched them. I see what appears to be... whats a word... i dont wanna say "blur" but like, anything i view looks like there is constant shifting of color or movement, which i know is these lights, of sorts - its like they make up the "hologram" that is - and yet constantly move around changing, but not changing.

The most blunt/blatant ive ever seen "lights" was when i was doing a particular work in my lab - and i seen these bright lights, they looked solid, like crystals, but transparent, glowing, and darting all over the place - i was able to focus on them and clearly look at them, and they vanished. I waited a moment, and they all reappeared to me and i watched and focused on them again until they, again, vanished.

tis because something is wrong with your eyes, a cheap effect caused by messing with them, or you being crazy or drugged - tis just another thing seen by all, but recognized by few. ;)


~Seth-Ra

Nibiru
06-17-2011, 01:19 AM
If these are the same thing I see, they appear almost as very short active shooting stars. Bright white, appear swimming for a second at the most, and then vanish. I've seen something similar after hitting my head too hard, what they call "seeing stars". But if I look at a brightly lit sky I can see almost the same thing...

teofrast40
06-18-2011, 01:50 PM
hi ghislain,

these tiny dots of light, moving in a sort of brownian movement, when I look up at the sky, have always been there since my childhood. to be fair this is the very first memory of my life: I must have been two or three years old when I first noticed them.
It could be just suggestion, but in the last years I considered that they seem more intense during springtime.
I believe that anybody can see them, if, when looking at the sky, one will shift the focus toward himself.
something very similar happens if one presses his eyes, and also during prolonged light deprivation, or when waking up during a very intense dream (together with many other forms of phosphenes and reveries), but I'm not shure if all these fenomena pertain to the same class.

with humility
t

Ghislain
06-22-2011, 06:49 PM
I think I have found the answer to the "dots of bright light", it is called "Blue field entoptic phenomenon" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_field_entoptic_phenomenon)

Hence the ability to see it when looking at the sky.

Another case solved Watson :)

Ghislain

Nibiru
06-22-2011, 07:08 PM
Yep, sounds about right. Good job!! Posted the video you asked about..

Ghislain
06-22-2011, 07:25 PM
Posted the video you asked about..


Where is this video posted Nibiru?

Ghislain

Nibiru
06-22-2011, 09:18 PM
The thread I started hoping to find answers as to what is happening was posted here: http://forum.alchemyforums.com/showthread.php?2183-Strange-effect-with-sprouts-please-explain

I think I also linked it in your thread about Chi.

Nibiru
12-06-2011, 04:53 AM
Hi Ghislain!! I scanned these pages for you from my copy of the book "The Orgone Accumulator Handbook" by: James DeMeo. I thought this might be what we're seeing, pay extra attention to the bottom half of the 2nd page and the entire 3rd page. Maybe we shouldn't be so quick to dismiss our initial gut instincts for scientific explanations :)


http://i48.servimg.com/u/f48/16/98/72/10/scan0011.jpg (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=59&u=16987210)

http://i48.servimg.com/u/f48/16/98/72/10/scan0012.jpg (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=60&u=16987210)

http://i48.servimg.com/u/f48/16/98/72/10/scan0013.jpg (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=61&u=16987210)

Ghislain
12-06-2011, 02:42 PM
Hi Nibiru

I have to admit the text you posted sounds convincing, however when was this written, was it before the scientific
phenomena was known? Perhaps this was the best explanation available at the time.

The eyes can play some funny tricks on us, for instance...look at your own text in the post above. It would
appear that the second line is on the slant but it is the posted picks that are wonky giving this impression.

I keep an open mind and believe it could possibly be more than the scientific explanation is offering, but it
may not be.

I liked the videos of the plants being attracted and repelled by your hand. Is that a fan next to the tray?
Being the devil that I am I have to ask, do you think it could have been the hand blocking the fan that caused
the plants to move?

Ghislain

Nibiru
12-06-2011, 05:54 PM
Hello :) My copy of "The Orgone Accumulator Handbook" was a revised edition from 2010, and the original was published in 1989.



I liked the videos of the plants being attracted and repelled by your hand. Is that a fan next to the tray?
Being the devil that I am I have to ask, do you think it could have been the hand blocking the fan that caused
the plants to move?

You're right, it was an air-purifier but the air-purifier was turned off and that is why I filmed the power switch before the rest of the demonstration. Also if you look closely, expescially at the repelled video, you will see that the plants show a duel effect of attraction and repulsion.

Here's the original quote where I had brought attention to the air-purifier, the relevant section is underlined:

I originally posted this as a response in another thread and was hoping for an explanation for the effect. I'm unsure if this belongs in here, spagyrics, or the ormus section of the forum so feel free to move it. Please let me know if this is common with sprouts, I've never seen anything like it. Make sure you watch both videos, I film the air filter to show that it is turned off....

I just filmed a video of some cilantro sprouts that I've been watering with trap water. These sprouts behave very strangely!! When I move my hand near the sprouts, they are attracted and pulled towards my hand. To the point that they will stretch to touch my hand and once they touch my skin, they spring back as if they've become instantly repelled by it. If I move my hand towards some of the sprouts from certain directions, they are repelled by my hand and move away from it. The plants that are repelled, will become attracted to my hand once it passes a certain distance. Very, very strange..... :confused: :confused:: :confused:

I couldn't get it to post through the forum, so I uploaded them to youtube. The video quality isn't that great because it was filmed on my phone, but it should be good enough for you to see the effect. You might also want to check out the chem-trail video I posted.

-Plants attracted to hand: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRXdj1EpcrM

-Plants repelled from hand, then attracted: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYP4CbdsNCU

Ghislain
12-07-2011, 06:57 PM
Forgive me Nibiru I should have read that post about the fan being off.

What is happening...do you know?

I must make a trap and try some of these experiments.

Thanks

Ghislain

Nibiru
12-08-2011, 01:10 AM
No worries Ghislain, it's cool :) I don't know for sure what was happening with those sprouts. They only reacted like that for about a week and then the phenomenon stopped. The sprouts were watered with trap-water that had been treated with laminar crystals and prill beads. If they were only attracted to my hand I would of thought it was static-electricity but since they were also repelled at times, I would think it has something to do with energetic fields..

peethagoras
12-10-2011, 09:01 PM
Hi
why
o why
o why
did those sparkles in the sky
die?
my oh my
when I
(being high)
stuck a pie
in my eye
yi yi yi!
Aye
no lie
'sigh'
bye.

Awani
03-10-2015, 03:55 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6e_m9iq-4Q

:cool:

Illen A. Cluf
03-10-2015, 12:48 PM
I had a serious case of floaters in one eye some time ago which happened overnight. It was accompanied with thousands of tiny perfect circles with a dot inside - exactly like the symbol for Sol. It wouldn't go away, even after a couple of days, so I went to an eye specialist and what I had was a partially detached retina. He was able to attach the retina again with laser eye surgery which hurt like Hell. I still had some large floaters, but got so used to them that I hardly notice them anymore unless I concentrate.

Ghislain
03-10-2015, 01:31 PM
I started a thread about this called "Tiny Dots of Bright Light" (http://forum.alchemyforums.com/showthread.php?2169-Tiny-Dots-of-Bright-Light)

In post 15 I had found the phenomena mentioned in your video Dev.

It's weird until you understand what it is.

What made you look into this?

Ghislain

Awani
03-10-2015, 02:05 PM
In post 15 I had found the phenomena mentioned in your video Dev.... What made you look into this?

Oh I forgot about that thread.... I merge them.

Just stumbled upon the video.

:cool:

Edit: threads merged

Nibiru
03-10-2015, 02:32 PM
Yeah, a lot of this seems to be describing 'floaters', which to me have the appearance of cells or bacterial that move slowly over your field of vision. The phenomenom that's described in the pages that I uploaded from "The Orgone Accumulator Handbook" seems to be different. For anyone who's ever noticed these, they have the appearance of many tiny shooting stars and they seem to pop into your field of vision, squiggle around very quickly(like bottle-rocket firework or something) and then pop back out of the field of vision. They are usually white or golden colored. And I seem to notice them more on days where the energy in the atmosphere seems to be high. I feel that what I'm seeing fits well with the description of prana but I suppose it could just be eye problems..

Nibiru
03-10-2015, 02:39 PM
^ actually at 2:00 minutes into the video that Dev posted above it does attempt to explain the 'shooting stars' that I was describing, they refer to them as "blue-sky sprites". I'm not sure which is true, but I like the orgone/prana explanation better myself. I also see the "blue-sky sprites" on cloudy days as well, sometimes even more if it's about to rain.