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john_david_91
11-08-2011, 09:11 PM
I've never really smoked, not even once. Having gone through nursing school has brought me to realize just how fatal ANY amount of smoking can be. After starting my studies in Alchemy, I read the books Real Alchemy and The Way of the Crucible by Robert Bartlett. I was particularly interested whenever he covered the subjects of maintaining your personal, alchemical balance between your own Sulfur, Salt, and Mercury (he referred to these three essences in their various identifications in other cultures).

In his book The Way of the Crucible he refers to the connection of the seven Alchemical processes to their Sulfuric, Saltic, and Murcuric composition. One in particular that I noticed, which lead me to view smoking through an Alchemical lens, the process of Calcination is represented by Salt which is to decay, to kill, to burn. According to Bartlett, Saltic qualities are not very desirable in large quantities (the same goes for any essence). In fact, he emphasized the consequence of large Saltic intake.

Noting the correlation between Salt and Calcination I've come to view smoking in an Alchemical light, which has shown to me that it is very fatal. During Calcination, impurities are burned and the higher form of the matter you're working with begins to take shape in this early stage. But the impurities are still present in the calcinated matter. While smoking you calcinate the tobacco and then separate the impurities by inhalation. As a consequence, those impurities are taken into the body, causing Essential Imbalance which leads to many health problems.

This is why I view smoking as a terrible habit to have and why I will never do it. I cannot stress enough how Alchemically undesirable smoking really is and would urge anyone to stop such a habit, perhaps even if it is substances other than tobacco (i.e. weed, marijuana, ect.).

TUNGSTEN
11-08-2011, 11:21 PM
This I remember at the: "Tomacco".....

Andro
11-09-2011, 08:56 AM
* Please see this thread: Pipe Smoking Geniuses/Tobacco (http://forum.alchemyforums.com/showthread.php?1649-pipe-smoking-geniuses-tobacco&highlight=pipe)

* Oxygen, for example, simultaneously kills us and keep us alive. Some even say that the same goes for food intake... And for pretty much everything else, actually :)

* The REAL Number One Cause of Death: being born.

And here is a potentially perspective-balancing article by an MD who thinks differently:


SAY HELLO TO THE ONLY MD SMART ENOUGH TO ASK...

“ARE YOU SMOKING ENOUGH TO STAY HEALTHY?”

Join my biggest crusade yet and get the inside scoop on the surprising health BENEFITS of smoking...

Dear Reader,

Feel free to light up a smoke while you read this special letter. That’s right, go ahead, get comfortable and savor every delicious, life-saving puff of your tobacco.

Yes, you read that right. I said “Life-Saving.” And I stake my reputation on that.

Nothing beats a good smoke with a strong cup of coffee, or alongside a whiskey... especially after a big steak dinner. T

he only problem is you can’t light up these days without getting an earful from the anti-smoking nuts.

If only they knew the REAL truth about tobacco!

Anti-smoking fanatics are everywhere. At offices, restaurants, bars, you name it.
I don’t blame them for being ignorant about the realities of smoking, because, hey, they don’t know what I know (and what you’re about to learn!)
Mainstream “science” stages so many anti-smoking campaigns these days you’d think cigarettes were made of nuclear waste.

These fanatics shout, “You’re destroying your lungs! You’re raising my health care costs! And you’re killing ME and MY CHILDREN!”

They all want to know: “What kind of medical doctor is crazy enough to smoke?”

And what I say next always makes their jaws drop to the floor...

SMOKING CAN SAVE YOUR LIFE...

...and I’ve got all the science to prove it. So stop trying to stub out my stogie!

The tobacco controversy is soaring out of control, and I consider it my job as America’s most rational doctor to dispel the web of paranoid myths and confusion surrounding tobacco.

But I didn’t always think this way.

In the early years of my practice, I was such an anti-smoking fanatic that I would refuse to even see a patient unless they quit smoking. Oh, how times have changed.

You see, after finding a few studies supporting the health benefits of tobacco, I still thought you’d have to be crazy to light up anything containing tobacco and nicotine. But my curiosity was piqued...

And as study after study came to my attention...I realized I was wrong all along (yes, I’ll admit I was wrong on occasion -- in my younger years)!
Once I saw the mountains of evidence, I slowly came to the indisputable conclusion that...

Tobacco is a health gift from God!

When practiced in moderation, smoking can load you up with health benefits you never imagined possible. By “moderation,” I mean smoking smart.
Let’s face it – three packs a day might do you in after enough years.

But by knowing what to smoke and how much, you can enjoy the proven health benefits of tobacco, including its ability to prevent heart disease, control your weight and even reduce the risks of Alzheimer’s disease and certain cancers!

And that’s just the beginning!

Now don’t get me wrong – you can’t smoke all day and expect to get healthy. Unfortunately, it doesn’t quite work that way.
But I do want you to know that the relatively small risks of smoking really pale in comparison to all the potential benefits.

You CAN smoke and get healthy – as long as you know how!

My name is Dr. William Campbell Douglass, II. I’ve been voted “Doctor of the Year” by the National Health Federation.
I’ve also been labeled a “maverick” and “pioneer”... plus some other less flattering names I won’t mention here.

I’m sick and tired of mainstream medicine always putting profits and political correctness in front of cold hard facts...and making the whole world sicker (and dumber!) as a result.

And let’s get another thing straight right off the bat: I’ve never taken a penny from a tobacco company. The whole lot of them can rot for all I care.
They advertise to kids, add dangerous chemicals and fiberglass to their tobacco… and these are just the beginning of their offenses.
But why should we responsible, tax-paying adults suffer – and be denied the many health benefits of tobacco -- because of the misdeeds of some cartoon camel?

Just like our fruit juices have been gunked up with corn syrup and preservatives...just like our raw milk is pasteurized into poison...
So too has Big Tobacco taken something natural and ruined it for the rest of the world.

The only reason I’m offering this information to you today is because it’s the truth—and I’m the medical maverick that refuses to be silenced by mainstream propaganda no matter how unpopular the stand I am taking is.

For example, I bet your doctor would think this is the grand-daddy of all medical shockers:

Tobacco smoke may alleviate heart attacks and stroke!

By now, you’ve probably heard of so many studies linking smoking and heart disease. Sure, smoking causes heart disease...and my pet dog speaks Greek, too!

If any patient of mine was ever concerned about cardiovascular health, I’d let them know that one of my favorite prescriptions is 3 delicious cigars a day.

And once you take a look at the evidence, you ‘ll start to see why. Consider these facts:

* Low levels of carbon monoxide may actually help victims of heart attacks and strokes
* Smokers have a better chance of surviving angioplasty surgery
* Small doses of nicotine help produce new blood vessel growth around blocked arteries

Meanwhile, all the studies that try to link smoking and heart disease add up to nothing but a bunch of hogwash, and I’ll show you why.
For example, while there’s been a sharp decrease in smoking in the USA over the years, there’s been an increase in reported cases of heart disease.
Hmm, makes you wonder if something ELSE might be responsible, eh?

So why haven’t you read about these groundbreaking studies in your local newspaper?
Well, it’s just not politically acceptable to report good news about tobacco.
Not when these stories seriously compromise mountains of government grant money doled out like candy to anti-tobacco researchers and activists…
Not when it could undermine billions of government revenue from tobacco taxes or the big money that drug companies have invested in anti-smoking drugs…

No, you’ll never hear all these special interests admit the truth… that smoking can be GOOD for your heart. And here’s something else they hoped you’d never learn…

Smoking can protect your brain!

It’s true—study after study proves that smoking can:

* Slash your risk of Alzheimer’s – studies show that not smoking could actually increase your risk of Alzheimer’s

* Stop Parkinson’s dead in its tracks – researchers have learned that smokers are 73% less likely to develop Parkinson’s

* Improve your memory and concentration – the right dose of nicotine can keep your mind sharp as a tack

Yes, indeed, this is disturbing news to those fanatics who hate tobacco—and good news for those of us smart enough to smoke it.

But even I was shocked after digging through study after study proving that in many cases...

Smoke more and live longer!

Here’s a comparison between Japanese men and American men that was reported by the Washington Post, even though it probably didn’t make the cut at your local newspaper:

Japanese men, who are twice as likely to smoke as American men, not only live longer but also remarkably, have lower rates of lung cancer!

Hmmmm...they smoke more AND live longer? Makes you wonder if cigarettes are really to blame for all the deaths over here in the good old U S of A.

Smoking can actually prevent cancer!

Now this goes against what EVERY SINGLE dunderhead doc in the country is saying, but I don’t care.

While excessive smoking can and will lead to cancer in certain scenarios, for the most part it has nothing to do with it.

In fact, smoking may actually help PREVENT certain types of cancers, including thyroid, breast and skin....

So stop letting the anti-tobacco nuts push you around and arm yourself with the facts.

And feel free to pass them along to any of your politically correct friends who’ve tried to terrorize you any time you light up.

To pleasurable puffing,

William Campbell Douglass II, MD

* Get some perspective :)
_________________________

PS: Ghislain, if I'm playing devil's advocate - I only have YOU to blame ! ! ! LOL :D :D :D
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Ghislain
11-09-2011, 12:57 PM
Who me....

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solomon levi
11-09-2011, 06:53 PM
From my contemplations on smoking, I originally found it an interesting way
to ingest the sulfurs of herbs. But we do recognise these sulfurs as acidic, and
that can be a problem - one notices this with tooth decay related to smoking,
even non-commercial tobacco.
I also got some insight from Wilhelm Reich who observed the incalescence of carbons
related to cancer cells. This is an important insight IMO. I would also connect it to
carbonic acid in soft drinks. Humans exhale CO2 as a waste product. That said, this
poison can be made into a medicine. Carbonates are the basic (dual meanings to that word)
salt of alchemy in the three kingdoms: potassium carbonate in plants, ammonium carbonate
in humans, calcium carbonate in minerals. Carbon in the alkaline form instead of the acid
has proven repeatedly to be good for health, and for teeth.

solomon levi
01-25-2012, 12:36 AM
I had a perception the other day that felt true at the time.
On reflection, I am not sure, but here it is:

There's always these people who smoke and don't get cancer.
This would lead any objective scientist to say that smoking does not cause cancer.
What I saw, in a moment of self-observation, was the consciousness behind smoking.
Many people smoke as a release from stress. Most probably this type of smoking
will lead to cancer. Whatever alchemical aspect of smoking sublimates into the
brain along with the consciousness - i.e. the chemicals of smoking are determined by
the thoughts and consciousness of the smoker.
This view would also support the "smoking geniuses" observations - they just have
a different consciousness while they smoke.
Isn't consciousness ultimately the cause of all and not matter?

Jesus said, "If the flesh came into being because of spirit, that is a marvel, but if spirit came into
being because of the body, that is a marvel of marvels. Yet I marvel at how this great wealth
has come to dwell in this poverty." - gospel of Thomas

Awani
01-25-2012, 01:25 AM
The Shamans of the Shipibo use pure tobacco (no additives) in their rituals. It is a relative to ayahuasca and they work together. Since I see their work as alchemical I see pure tobacco, or Mapacho, as a positive consequence. There is no rule against inhaling or not.

http://www.biopark.org/peru/mapacho.html

:cool:

solomon levi
06-10-2012, 01:30 PM
When/if you smoke, consider:
Tobacco is influencing you.
But that is just half of it.
Also, you are influencing tobacco.
And by influencing tobacco, you influence all smokers.

This is what is possible when you are free of linear time/cause and effect.
Everything is circumstantial.
How great is your awareness?
What is your identity?
This is the constant primary factor in everything.

Krisztian
06-10-2012, 09:46 PM
This is why I view smoking as a terrible habit to have and why I will never do it. I cannot stress enough how Alchemically undesirable smoking really is and would urge anyone to stop such a habit, perhaps even if it is substances other than tobacco (i.e. weed, marijuana, ect.).

The majority of humanity uses cigarettes as a tool for mood-altering, or should I say, stabilizing one's mood. In the aboriginal cultures, I noticed that during rituals, it can serve greatly for initiation and union. In some Eastern European countries, I have also seen people live into centenarian age with or without smoking.

I think it's best to avoid it, especially since social consciousness has assigned such a dangerous connotations to it. So, mind creates that reality in the physical body.

Any addiction(s) should be avoided. They all just prolong the inevitable, that is, to uncover the underlying 'impurity', weakness, deficiency of the person.

D.Trout
06-10-2012, 11:53 PM
Part of the problem is not only HOW people use smoking, but also WHAT they're smoking, and what they're consuming in the other aspects of their lives. While I would most likely call Dr. William C. Douglas II a quack and charlatan for the claims he's making above, and would never actually ENCOURAGE anyone to take up smoking, I don't think it's as inherantly bad as what it is made out to be.

It's not the tobacco itself. It's how it's consumed.

The tobacco industry, specifically the cigarette industry, adds so much monstrously toxic garbage to their product it's no doubt that they are bad for you.

Combine that with the chronic habit, addiction, and "Reverse Placebo Effect" of it being crammed down our throats that it will KILL us, (as others have pointed out.)

However, I feel if there was a strong enough lobby against companies like Monsanto and the corporate food industry, we would find that there is as much toxic shit in the processed foods and meats we consume.

I don't really think that there's much health difference consuming products from Phillip Morris companies than from the McDonald Corporation or the Nabisco family of products. Only one has been seriously villified internationally, (Monsanto, Nabisco, and McDonald corp. are getting there though.)

I DO smoke a pipe on a semi-regular basis, and I am very picky about the tobacco I smoke and what goes into it, (mostly English/Latakia blends from companies that start with quality tobaccos.) I don't smoke chronically, I smoke in relaxed, reflective moods, often with a drink.

I am dubious of claims of the BENEFITS of smoking. I don't see where there can actually promote GOOD health. I have no doubt that it's NOT good for me. At least not in a purely physical/chemical sense, (however I don't feel that my particular consumption and frequency is doing much physical harm.) But metaphysically, I feel differently. I think it's good for my soul. ;)

solomon levi
06-11-2012, 12:25 AM
I align very much with all of your statements D.Trout. :)
Sometimes I prefer a rolled cigarette of natural or pipe tobacco to the pipe though.

It's interesting that you make a connection to your soul and smoking, since the smoke
we inhale seems to align with alchemical sulphur/soul of the plant/tobacco.
It is a communion of souls. :)

Albion
06-12-2012, 04:26 AM
The majority of humanity uses cigarettes as a tool for mood-altering, or should I say, stabilizing one's mood. In the aboriginal cultures, I noticed that during rituals, it can serve greatly for initiation and union. In some Eastern European countries, I have also seen people live into centenarian age with or without smoking.

I think it's best to avoid it, especially since social consciousness has assigned such a dangerous connotations to it. So, mind creates that reality in the physical body.

Any addiction(s) should be avoided. They all just prolong the inevitable, that is, to uncover the underlying 'impurity', weakness, deficiency of the person.

For a long time I've known that, for me at least, eating is more a matter of addiction to an emotional paliative [Paliate 1. To cloak; shelter; hide] far more than it serves as a means for sustaining the physical vehicle.

But it is only recently that I realized or saw that my smoking habit really amounted to the same thing. So I completely agree with you in this regard.

Andro
06-12-2012, 05:51 AM
Agreed on the above.

To which I'll add:

Physical life (and what comes - and goes - with it) is also an addiction.

Perhaps non-physical life/existence as well.

Where does one stop? Where does One stop?

Krisztian
06-12-2012, 05:48 PM
For a long time I've known that, for me at least, eating is more a matter of addiction to an emotional paliative [Paliate 1. To cloak; shelter; hide] far more than it serves as a means for sustaining the physical vehicle. But it is only recently that I realized or saw that my smoking habit really amounted to the same thing. So I completely agree with you in this regard.

Thanks Albion. My comments on these postings never meant to disrespect or shame or 'put down' people.

I kind of by default came to see that addiction is rampant; I work in the field of mental health and addictions. So, very little guessing is left for me at the end of the day.