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solomon levi
01-05-2009, 11:57 PM
This is a Phoenix-thread (http://forum.alchemyforums.com/showthread.php?t=7) from the old site (http://alchemy-forums.forumotion.com/forum.htm).

I'm studying the gematria of alchemical terminology this weekend.
Here's a taste of what I've found so far in just the latin gematria:

regulus martis - 174
mercurius vitae - 175
circulatum majus - 175
argentum vivum - 175
spiritus vini - 176
some more interesting matches:

37 - calx, arena, albedo

60 - urina, acetum

64 - terrae, via sicca

66 - magnesia
67 - arcanum, sal gemma

70 - ars magna, aurum

72 - cinabris
73 - alkahest, athanor, elixir

89 - stibium
90 - nitrum, terra adamica

94 - argentum, leo viride, anima mundi

117 - lac virginis, conjuctio
118 - prima materia

121 - mercurius, aqua fortis
122 - antimonium
123 - hieros gamos, Nicholas Flamel

156 - acetum acerrimum, sanguis leonis


here's the big one!:

Ora, lege, lege, lege, relege, labora et invenies = 328
Jesus Nazarenus Rex Judaeorum = 328; also = 3497 according to Agrippa's system, and...
Visita Interiora Terrae Rectificando Invenies Occultum Lapidem = 3497 according to Agrippa's system.
Also looking at names of philosophers.
Here's a couple interesting ones:

Alexander Seton
Seton is an anagram for stone.
Alexander is hal ex andro, the salt out of man.
The salt out of man is the stone.
A couple philosophers mention this path - urine or blood.
I'm not familiar enough with Seton to know if this is the path he describes.

Andreas Libavius
Has to be a cabalist. Lib avius, bird lips...
speaks the language of the birds.

Nicholas Flamel
Nicholas means Nike laos, victory stone, or...
triumphal stone (of antimony). This is the path he describes.

Awani
08-24-2009, 01:57 PM
Nicholas Flamel
Nicholas means Nike laos, victory stone, or...
triumphal stone (of antimony). This is the path he describes.

This thread is a bit old, but I was wondering how you got this result?

:cool:

solomon levi
08-24-2009, 06:02 PM
I'm not sure what you're asking?
How did I get nike-laos? Or victory stone?
Nike is the goddess of victory.
Laos, I think I got from Fulcanelli that this means stone,
then I searched it.
Then I just take a small jump from victory stone to triumphal chariot.

And then just from my studies I've seen that Flamel worked with the antimony
reguluses. Some even call it the "Flamel path".

I hope I answered your question somewhere in there. :)

solomon levi
10-22-2009, 06:54 AM
Haven't read this in a while.
It's interesting that urina and acetum are both 60.
I notice in a lot of recipes they seem interchangeable.

3+O(
04-20-2011, 04:05 PM
PF Case, in his 'Hermetic Alchemy' gives an interesting 'geometric' gematria, where the circle represents 22, due to the famous approximation to pi 22/7, a semicircle therefore represents 11. A line gives 2, a cross 4, and a triangle 3.

So the glyph for Mercury = 11+22+4=37.
Sulphur = 3+4=7.
Salt = 22+2=24, or taking the line as the diameter of the circle, 22+7=29. (likewise nitre)

(I like 29 better here, because 37+7+29=73, 37 and 73 being key in some of more convincing numerological stuff like Vernon Jenkins.)
Applying this method to other relevant glyphs:

Saturn 4+11=15.
Jupiter 11+4=15.
Mars = 22+2+11+11=46, by Dee's rendering in HM, or taking the tip of the spear as a triangle, 22+2+3=27.
Sun = 22, or adding the center point, 22+1=23.
Venus = 22+4=26. (likewise terra and antimony)
Mercury = 37, as above.
Moon = 11.

The total would be one of these, considering the alternatives for mars and sol:
11+37+26+15+15+22+46=172 (4*43, reduces to 1)
11+37+26+15+15+22+27=153 (6*17, also the # of fishes caught in John 21:11, also, is the 17th triangular number)
11+37+26+15+15+23+46=173 (40th prime)
11+37+26+15+15+23+27=154 (2*7*11, reduces to 1)


The 4 elements, fire, air, water, earth = 3, 5, 3, 5, the total is 16.

Haven't managed to fit the zodiac symbols into this scheme yet.

peethagoras
12-10-2011, 10:29 PM
You said

" Mars = 22+2+11+11=46, by Dee's rendering in HM, or taking the tip of the spear as a triangle, 22+2+3=27."
and I wonder how Dee derived those numbers? I thought A was 1? It seems that instead of Mars, the letters would be
X B L L to get that sum. You seem to know Dee, are there others with like minds in these forums?
What has the tip of a spear got to do with things?

I must confess to not reading Dee's HM.

Sorry if too many questions.