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solomon levi
02-01-2012, 01:08 AM
One may find interesting comparisons with this thread and the one on fixation of sea salt:
http://forum.alchemyforums.com/showthread.php?656-fixation-of-sea-salt-towards-the-P-stone


When we consider the salts of alchemy (hals cheumia - fusible salt) we have as primary subjects
nitre, sea salt, tartar, soda, lime...
Notice they are composed of two or more substances (the suffix -ate means there is oxygen in it as well):
nitre/saltpeter = potassium or sodium nitrate
sea salt = sodium chloride
tartar = potassium carbonate
soda = sodium carbonate
lime = calcium oxide

If we take off the second portion of these we are left with:
potassium, sodium, calcium.
Sodium and potassium are "alkali metals" while calcium is an "alkali earth metal".
We can add to these lithium and magnesium. Others are too rare to consider IMO.
Lithium can be had from brine. I assume you are already aware of conversations on magnesia.

ALL OF THESE ARE FUSIBLE SALTS/METALS!
A candle flame ranges from 600-1400C
The approximate MPs (melting points) of these metals are:
Lithium - 180C
Sodium - 98C
Potassium - 63C
Calcium - 840C
Magnesium - 650C


What I'd like to point to is the reduction of the salts towards metals with greatly lowered
melting points. Sometimes these salts are reduced by metals, such as magnesium metal
reducing sodium hydroxide to metallic sodium. It would be significant if one finds that iron
can reduce these salts in some instances. Sometimes carbon is used as the reducer. And of
course there is electrolysis.


As a theoretical argument, could these metallic salts be what alchemists were referring to
when they said metalloids or between mineral and metal? Should our focus be 'salt fusion'?
We know we can create the gold calx with these alkali metals:

From crucible.org and many other monoatomic gold sites:
http://www.crucible.org/gem_elixir4.htm

"Monoatomic Gold
Monoatomic Gold is the non-metallic, non-toxic zero-valence form of Gold. Monoatomic Gold is a high temperature superconductor[1]. It can be manufactured alchemically out of 24carat metallic gold. It also occurs naturally in volcanic soils, seawater and in minute amounts in the purple or violet skins of fruits and vegetables and some medicinal plants such as red grapes, eggplant and violets. In recent years, some researchers have erroneously equated monoatomic gold with the Philosopher’s stone[2], which it definitely is not: Monoatomic gold was known and used in the Pharmacopoeia of Western Medieval Alchemy as ‘the retrograded calx of Gold that cannot be revivified’ [meaning it cannot be returned to the metallic state by conventional metallurgical processes][3]. Monoatomic Gold is known and used in Ayurveda as a bhasma of Gold that passes the test of apunarbhavatva or ‘test of non-revivability’[4]. Monoatomic Gold is not known to contemporary Western allopathic medicine and must not be confused with the gold salts that are used in allopathic medicine, which exhibit metal toxicity. Monoatomic gold is not to be confused with colloidal gold either, which retains its metallic nature. Monoatomic gold can appear in several colors; it is usually known as a white powder, but when treated with oxidizing acids, it becomes a purple powder, and is green in alkaline solutions.

Manufacture and Specifications of our Elixir of Monoatomic Gold
We start out with 99.99% fine metallic gold and convert it to the monoatomic form by reacting it with a molten alkali metal and subsequent controlled sequential cascading detonations with water..."

Also regard the Essene's sodium burn process:
http://www.subtleenergies.com/ormus/tw/burn.htm
http://www.atlantisalchemy.com/burn.htm


So can we take this further and add the sulfur and mercury and digest them as a spagyrical stone?
Besides the dry burn, do these deliquesced metals dissolve gold, or can they be made to?
Should be relatively easy to find out.

ghetto alchemist
02-01-2012, 11:19 AM
I totally agree with your thinking Solomon.

Just some extra stuff to give your idea some more weight:

Perhaps "the grey wolf who devours everything" which is referred to in one of the Fugiens illustrations does in fact refer to sodium metal.

http://www.tarotgarden.com/library/images/72dpi_Maier_Atalanta-Fugiens_1618.jpg

As you mentioned sodium metal was first liberated by modern science through electrolysis.
But I doubt that the ancient alchemists were building electrical apparatus before our modern scientists.

However....It is possible to liberate sodium by reducing with lead under a vacuum.
This was almost certainly within the abilities of the old timers.
Of course the only way they would have produced vacuum was with a column of mercury,
and we all know how important they seemed to believe that mercury was for the work.
And they do seem to bang on a lot about philisophical lead,......
I do wonder, could philisophical lead be the metal that is produced from lead?

Curiously, Fugiens also has an image about the rock vomited up by Jupiter
http://thenightshirt.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/Atalanta_Fugiens_Emblema_XII-300x270.jpg
I have wondered if this is a reference to reducing with one metal to form another.

Lastly I'm pretty sure that there were a couple of authors who have mentioned the grey wolf, I think maybe Lullius, but I'm not 100% on that.

Ghetto Alemist

solomon levi
02-01-2012, 08:06 PM
Thank you Ghetto Alchemist.
I appreciate your contributions.
Yes, lead I had forgotten to include.
The stone is vomitted by saturn/lead. The stone was a substitute/scapegoat for jupiter.
But yes, this looks like a reduction.

And the martial regulus - what if it isn't antimony but a sulfide salt?
Will it be reduced to a metal salt/regulus?
These are more ideas to research. :)

solomon levi
02-21-2012, 04:28 PM
Among the alkali metals, lithium is the most subtle.
It is the third element, following only hydrogen and helium, yet it is
a metal/mineral! This made me research it to begin with, about a year ago.
But now I see many more connections. Here i shall list a few.

Lepidolite means scale stone from lepidos and lithos.
Lepidos and scale is a direct reference to leprosy. It is also similar to lapide/stone, lapis, etc.
This scale is also a "glyph" of our serpent and our fish - both mercury symbols.

"Lepidolite (KLi2Al(Al,Si)3O10(F,OH)2 is a lilac-gray or rose-colored phyllosilicate mineral of the mica group that is a secondary source of lithium. It is associated with other lithium-bearing minerals like spodumene in pegmatite bodies. It occurs in granite pegmatites, in some high-temperature quartz veins, greisens and granites. Associated minerals include quartz, feldspar, spodumene, amblygonite, tourmaline, columbite, cassiterite, topaz and beryl."

Recall that Fulcanelli also makes this mica comparison when speaking of Flamel's "book".

There are mentioned many names with this root, for instance:
"Its volatile quality which allowed philosophers to assimilate this mercury to the common hydrargyrum, is moreover emphasized on our bas-relief by the tiny lepidoptera wings affixed to the shoulders of the symbolic monster."

One can see this mica-like quality of lepidolite "wings" or leaves of a book:


There are too many references to leper/leprous/leprosy, etc to mention.
There is a lot of this in the bible as well.
The leopard is another reference.

In regards to metallic salt:
"Our first matter is solid; the mercury which it provides always presents itself as saline in appearance and with a hard consistency. And this metallic salt, as Bernard Trevisan quite rightly said, is extracted from the Magnesia "by the reiterated destruction of the latter, by dissolving and by sublimating". With each operation the body fragments itself, disaggregates little by little, without apparent reaction, by abandoning many impurities; the extract, purified by sublimations, also loses heterogeneous parts so that its virtue becomes condensed in the end into a small mass of a volume and weight much inferior to that of the original mineral subject."

Isn't this describing extracting metallic lithium from lepidolite, or some other metal salt from a mineral.
Fulcanelli says, "The capital letter M serves to identify our magnesia of which it is in fact the first letter."

So perhaps we can be more general and include all micaceous minerals. Perhaps M is mica. There are after all
many mica books - biotite, etc. Muscovite is another which was used as panes of glass which could refer to
our lantern with an asbestos wick. That is, perhaps this is a rock one could strike:

http://quezi.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/isinglass-lanterns.jpg (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/)

There are some other etymological associations with the lamp:
"Phlogopite mica is a commonly known phenocryst and groundmass phase within ultrapotassic igneous rocks (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultrapotassic_igneous_rocks) such as lamprophyre (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lamprophyre), kimberlite (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kimberlite), lamproite (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lamproite), and other deeply-sourced ultramafic or high-magnesian melts."

Isinglass/Muscovite/common mica was also used for panes on stoves.

"Now, the best agent, extracted from our magnesia or subject, takes on the appearance of a metallic body, charged with metallic spirits, to better withdraw it from the greedy one’s avidity, to give it all the possible names of metals, minerals, petrifications, and salts. Among these denominations, the most familiar is certainly that of Saturn, considered to be the metallic Adam."

Mica, when weathered or intentionally altered by a chemist, decomposes to vermiculite, which name means
to breed worms:

https://encrypted-tbn2.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSGDcq6OIHft7t5_tvr4wDOhm77ZipyY Gwad76TNqW0k4Q2jtcERw

When heated, vermiculite expands and exfoliates. Note this expansion which is referred to constantly as an
attribute when searching the bible.

"It typically occurs as an alteration product at the contact between felsic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felsic) and mafic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mafic) or ultramafic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultramafic) rocks such as pyroxenites (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyroxenite) and dunites (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunite). It also occurs in carbonatites (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbonatite) and metamorphosed (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metamorphism) magnesium rich limestone (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limestone). Associated mineral phases include: corundum (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corundum), apatite (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apatite), serpentine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serpentine_group) and talc (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talc). It occurs interlayered with chlorite (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chlorite_group), biotite and phlogopite. Vermiculite clays are weathered micas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mica) in which the potassium (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potassium) ions between the molecular (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molecular) sheets are replaced by magnesium (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnesium) and iron (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron) ions."