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solomon levi
03-14-2012, 04:03 PM
Here's a couple of things to do with muriatic acid.
One, I dissolved fine mesh steel wool.

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Keep feeding it. It will take quite a bit. It smells like death, like there's actually
putrefaction going on. Kinda weird. When it gets close to saturated it will precipitate
a salt upon cooling.

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But my plan is to evaporate this down to a syrup and collect the iron chloride crystals for use.

Another interesting item you might not know is that simply by adding nitre to muriatic acid
one gets an orange tincture in less than 24 hours. This is an aqua regia and will dissolve gold.

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It dissolved this quarter of a tenth ounce in maybe 6 or 7 hours (I wasn't really keeping track of time).
The action is greater if you heat it up a little. I would place it on a small oven while I was baking my food.
The same for the iron - heat speeds it up.

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Here is the action on antimony metal:

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Be careful of the fumes, especially with antimony - it produced dark yellow-orange vapors inside.

To be clear, the steel wool was just muriatic without nitre. It doesn't need it.

Oh - as you find uses for the aqua regia, just add more HCl onto the salt to make more as long as it extracts.
Be careful of this too. It's really strong and fuming. None of my items were tightly corked - I didn't want
much pressure building up and breaking anything - gases are evolved.

03-14-2012, 07:01 PM

03-19-2012, 09:01 AM
Interesting work SL. For iron sulfur production Fulcaneli used aqua regia and then Sulfur acid as well.

But do you no the cementation Components that Fulcaneli mentioned in dewllings prepared by St Vincent de

solomon levi
03-20-2012, 10:07 AM
Hi amoodikh.
No, I don't recall that part of Fulcanelli.

Here's some more progress. The green iron solution turned a brandy color by itself, no heat or anything.
Well, it is sitting on magnets but I don't know if that would do it.

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The aqua regia which dissolved gold has some "mercury" floating on it.
I don't know if it's really mercury but it is similar to what I've read
from Glauber's description of mercury which I got from working on sulphur -
kind of crystalline platelets that float on the liquor.

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The antimony developes oily strings in it:
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And eventually clouds. This is probably butter of antimony, well, when extracted:
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03-20-2012, 11:14 AM
Hi Solomon,

"The aqua regia which dissolved gold has some "mercury" floating on it.
I don't know if it's really mercury but it is similar to what I've read
from Glauber's description of mercury which I got from working on sulphur -
kind of crystalline platelets that float on the liquor."

Dose this crystaline platelets produced out of suphur can be considered the oil sulphur that Basil Valentine in "THE LAST WILL AND TESTAMENT
THE FOURTH PART" where he discribed the particular of mars:

Take of red Vitriol oil, or oil of Sulphur one part and two parts of ordinary well-water, put those together, dissolve therein filings of Steel, this dissolution must be filtered being warmed, let it gently evaporate a third part of it, then set the glass in a cool place, there will shoot crystals as sweet as sugar, which is the true VITRIOL of MARS (Iron), cant off that water, let it evaporate more, set it again in a cold place, more crystals will shoot, neal them gently under a muffle, stirring still with an iron-wire, then you get a fair purple coloured powder, on this powder cast dis tilled Vinegar, extract the ANIMA of MARS (iron) in a gentle balney, abstract again the Vinegar, and DULCORATE the ANIMA."

By the way what dose Basil Valentine means when he mentioned (Spirit of Mercury)?

With kind regards

solomon levi
03-20-2012, 12:34 PM
I'm not sure. I've never made enough to see if it will shoot, but it seems probable.
I imagine in a large enough quantity it would be a pellicle which would sprout into crystals.
The ones I made from sulphur with nitre melted and then poured some alcohol on top
and the platelets were extracted and floated on the alcohol.
And these on the aqua regia look similar - shiny mirror surface like metal mercury.

I have some of this aqua regia that I made this way a couple years ago and a lot of the redness
has precipitated onto the sides of the glass and there's quite a bit of oil floating on top.
I tried to get a picture of it, but it wasn't good enough quality to see the oil.

I'm not sure what Basil means. I'd have to see it in context. It's been a while since I read him.

Oil of gold: dissolve as much gold in an aqua regia as you can. Distill off the liquor in BM
until the gold remain a crystalline gum or salt; the let it resolve into a liquor in the air by
itself and distill off the water. Repeat this deliquescing and distilling until the red oil will
congeal no more.

This was given in Digby's works. It was applied to sores of the body with excellent results.
Probably not ready to be taken internally as it likely contains some gold chloride.
The chloride can't be washed away when it's bound to the gold, right?

03-20-2012, 08:09 PM
Should not the Red Oil be sweet to be considered philosophical? I believe one should get the sulphur of gold out of the red oil to work towards transmutation, but I could be totally wrong.

Red looking colloidal gold produced from gold chloride which I drank after neutralizing it by sodium carbonates.

Here is a picture:

solomon levi
03-21-2012, 10:53 AM
Yes, I suppose one can dulcify this spirit by distilling it with an equal
amount of alcohol. I haven't done it myself but it sounds like a good idea.

03-21-2012, 07:51 PM
Valuable information you've posted here!

Thanks Solomon :)

03-30-2012, 08:32 PM
Hi Solomon,

What if you use ammonia chloride with iron rust and by sublimation one can get the philosopher iron sulfur in its yellow color liquid. To purify it one should run multiple distillations. This way you do not need to use dangerous acids such as aqua regia.

solomon levi
04-01-2012, 12:41 AM
Yes, I understand that is an effective method.
I haven't done it myself.
Aleilius had done some work in this way.