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SahasraRa
04-05-2012, 08:27 AM
Voices are explained by science (and the Australian government's mental health system) as a chemical imbalance in the brain. Tripe.

Thoughts?

solomon levi
04-05-2012, 09:33 AM
Schizophrenia means split mind/brain.
Multiple personalities are usually the result of trauma, which can
be severe or subtle, but the idea is that one stashes away certain
events outside of their normal memory in an effort to protect
themselves, their ego identity. In some ways this is Jung's
shadow or the dark side. It can be things that were terrifying,
embarassing, painful, 'unacceptable', shameful, etc.
Everyone does this, but in shizophenia the hidden somehow finds
its way back into manifestation. But the primary or dominant personality
which rejected these elements refuses to incorporate them, so they manifest
as a second personality, or sometimes in voices.

This is really something natural (in a sense, or 'normal') taken a bit further
to extreme, perhaps by chemical imbalance, but consider chemicals are
manifest emotional substances.
The ego itself is a manifestation of fracturing (schizo), an identity which
sees itself separate from everything else.

There is a magical/intentional use of this feature of human consciousness
and psychology. Conversation with one's Holy Guardian Angel is such a
product. We exist on multiple levels of time, consciousness, awarenesss,
energy, so we are schizo as long as these are not unified, that is Oneness
realised - enlightenment

There is also, of course, a black magic use of this feature. The MKultra
program, mind control, intentional splitting of the mind where one side is
programmed to perform certain tasks or functions, such as assassins, or
sex slaves.

A healthy person is one who has allowed and loved their dark shadow side
(and thus the darkness in others as well) and thus no longer has a need to
fracture or compartmentalise oneself. They are whole, integrated.

Awani
04-05-2012, 09:27 PM
Voices are explained by science (and the Australian government's mental health system) as a chemical imbalance in the brain.

Could be, sure... but there is also the notion that true shamans are schizophrenics. In indigenous societies schizophrenia is not a disease, but an asset.


It is possible to undergo a profound crisis involving non-ordinary experiences and to perceive it as pathological or psychiatric when in fact it may be more accurately and beneficially defined as a spiritual emergency. - Stanislav Grof (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanislav_Grof)

Good little essay covering the basics of this perspective: Embracing the Fragmented Self: Shamanic Explorations of the Sacred in Schizophrenia & Soul Loss (http://www.jungcircle.com/embrace.html) by Maureen B. Roberts, PhD


We exist on multiple levels of time, consciousness, awarenesss,
energy, so we are schizo as long as these are not unified...

I guess the shaman embrace all the levels, thus appearing schizo...

:cool:

III
04-09-2012, 06:49 AM
Voices are explained by science (and the Australian government's mental health system) as a chemical imbalance in the brain. Tripe.

Thoughts?

For starters, "Voices" do not schizophrenia make. Sometime in the late 40s, when they were still studying the effects of conventrated liver extracts, they went to where the other vitamin canditidates were tried out, the mental hospitals, a captive audiance with a very poor diet. What they discovered with the concentrated liver exrtract was that women with post-partum depression were "cured" and discharged in 3 days. The schizophrenics so trialed went home in 7. As they thought they had identified b12 and cyanocobalamin couldn't replicate the results they were puzzled. Howevewr, Thorazine and other such drugas became avaialble and they didn't ask why the results couldn't be replicated. The answer is that adnosylcobalamin, methylcobalamin (for sure) and methylfolate (very probably) were in the concentrate. As this happened more than 60 years ago it's quite forgotten except for people who go around reading relatively "old" stuff. I know of women with post partum depression who have tried those same vitamins, and with all the rest as well, and been better in a few days.