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Seth-Ra
04-13-2012, 06:53 AM
As i promised in my "partial departure" thread (http://forum.alchemyforums.com/showthread.php?2550-My-Partial-Departure ) I have a final work going on in my lab that i wished to show everyone. It still is not quite done - but it very well can be within the next week, maybe the end of this month (and it wont be any to soon either ;) ), but nevertheless i wanted to go ahead and show it to those that are interested.

Aleilius recently made his forum open to the public - and ive had this work hidden there while it was still private. It currently spans 2 pages (and growing), and would be far easier on me if i just provide the link here, and i hope that is ok with everyone. :)

[link broken]

That holds the work im currently doing. Hope all who are interested enjoy the read. :)




~Seth-Ra

D.Trout
04-13-2012, 01:24 PM
Thanks for sharing. Fascinating stuff, thusfar.

Hope you can bring it to a successful stopping point before your imminent departure.

All the best!

Seth-Ra
04-14-2012, 08:37 AM
Thanks. I do believe that I will - infact I feel that the final product is nearly manifest. :)
Glad you've enjoyed it thus far. :)



~Seth-Ra

Ghislain
04-14-2012, 09:41 AM
Nice link Seth all your hard work has made me tired :)

You wrote in one of the posts in the thread...

"But this is it so far, as i continue to manipulate the Yin and Yang of this work, infusing and purifying it all the more."

and it brought to mind an extract from the text I posted on Taoism...

"The yin and yang symbol in actuality has very little to do with Western dualism;
instead it represents the philosophy of balance, where two opposites co-exist in
harmony and are able to transmute into each other."

I got a bit lost as to how you produced the green dragon, but it was very interesting
all the same.

Thanks for sharing

Ghislain

Seth-Ra
04-15-2012, 08:38 AM
Nice link Seth all your hard work has made me tired :)

You wrote in one of the posts in the thread...

"But this is it so far, as i continue to manipulate the Yin and Yang of this work, infusing and purifying it all the more."

and it brought to mind an extract from the text I posted on Taoism...

"The yin and yang symbol in actuality has very little to do with Western dualism;
instead it represents the philosophy of balance, where two opposites co-exist in
harmony and are able to transmute into each other."

I got a bit lost as to how you produced the green dragon, but it was very interesting
all the same.

Thanks for sharing

Ghislain

Sorry it made ya tired - i realize its a lot to digest and read over. Thats partly why i went ahead and posted it, rather than waiting till its fully finished (so anyone who is interested can go ahead and "catch up" to this part).

Yeah, the Yin-Yang part is very important. Make the Fixed become Volatile and the Volatile to be Fixed, Death to be Life and Life to be Death. Round and round it goes, until they fuze harmoniously into a single song/vibration - a balance between the two extremes, though capable of both of their power's - as one power, which it really is behind the scene, if we can just see it. :)


Yeah i know my green lion aspect may be a bit... cryptic. Twas the only way i could say it and show it though (I have to listen to Spirit).

:)



~Seth-Ra

horticult
04-16-2012, 01:53 PM
i am looking for detailed descriptions of miraculous properties of this experiment

Seth-Ra
04-16-2012, 07:15 PM
i am looking for detailed descriptions of miraculous properties of this experiment

ROFL!! I hear that. Im walking with the faith there will be, as is required/needed. It is my understanding that the Stone is very much like God, in the sense that you only get what you are able to receive from it. Otherwise, everyone healed by it, would be enlightened and on-par with the alchemist that made it. So the vessel must be receptive - it will penetrate and perform a work, but the matter being acted on limits the extent of its action, and humans are creations worst about wanting to move in the opposite direction of perfection (hence the "mindless" masses willingly being led backwards).

I will say that i've had a cut on my right hand, that goes through skin-graph on my finger (when i was less than a year old i burned my right hand on a stove... some fire symbolism in that) and that part of my body does not heal like the rest of it. Ive had that same injury in my hand for weeks now - it looks like it kept trying to get infected, i kept cleaning it, but it didnt do any good, it looked like a "stale-mate". I let one drop from my work hit my tongue and i went to bed - the next morning the infection-mess was nearly gone and my finger was looking normal. That was yesterday (Sunday), and today, there is no infection under the wound - and its finally healing correctly (though Saturday before i took that drop, it looked the same that is had been - this is the first change in it, and its rather rapid).

Its not calling fire down from the heavens - but its something i needed nonetheless, and amazing to me. :)




~Seth-Ra

Seth-Ra
04-25-2012, 05:21 AM
Finally. Finished. :)

Enjoy.

[link broken] (direct link to the final post of the work)



~Seth-Ra

Lapis Solaris
04-26-2012, 06:01 AM
Finally. Finished. :)

Enjoy.

[link broken] (direct link to the final post of the work)



~Seth-Ra

Amen.

D.Trout
04-26-2012, 09:37 PM
Glad to see you managed to wrap up your work before your imminent departure.

Thanks for sharing and for the inspiration!

Seth-Ra
04-27-2012, 02:25 AM
Glad to see you managed to wrap up your work before your imminent departure.

Thanks for sharing and for the inspiration!

I had a feeling/knew id finish it. :)

No problem, happy to be helpful/inspirational. To help fuel the Inner Fire, is a wonderful thing itself. :)



~Seth-Ra

Nibiru
04-27-2012, 03:07 AM
Thank you for sharing with us!!

Seth-Ra
03-11-2013, 04:22 AM
Part One:

Seeing as how its been about a year since i posted about this work (due to being in the Army during that time), and since my original posts were links to my work being hosted on another site (which shortly after was made private again, thus breaking my links, and that site later lost all picture content, so its irrelevant anyway), i decided to follow up with what ive been doing since i got out of the Army in December: Multiplying my Stone.
As such, it is only being showcased here on AF, complete with pics. Now, i have taken extensive pics during this multiplication process - when i first began prepping to make these posts i had selected about 31 pics to use as my basic outline. lol Ive managed to cut it down to 23. XD
I will explain what i can, in the language i am able/allowed. I will do my best to answer questions as im able/allowed. I will, upon request, show more pics of points of interest - and elaborate as im able/allowed.

So, to start with - after initial ingesting and testing with my original Stone, this was the remainder left, kept in liquid state, and used as an amulet:

http://a2.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/155/73ec38388626475a949c474646ea1b10/l.jpg

This was then poured into fresh dew, with more life also. Creating my Philosophical Sun again - but much stronger than the first time i did this. Also, even though the dew smells of fish (due to niter, i believe) and the other living essences smell as they do, within a day the entirety of the liquid smelled as my Stone. It devours and transmutes it into itself. (this merely feeds it, it doesnt evolve/grow/multiply it)

http://a2.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/154/f452b6a4adbf41faa39a3614e8c77301/l.jpg

Now - the Sun incubates and goes on hold in preparation for what is to eat it. To make the Sublte become Fixed - the Spirit to become Flesh, so that it can die, and thus resurrect and evolve, it must be brought down to earth. So, it needs a proper magnet and body to house it. Two bodies of similar natures but opposite polarities are opened and used.
This is my alkahest i used, a white crystalline powder in water. It dissolves in it, forming an oil that opens all sorts of various matters (metals, plants, minerals, etc etc etc).

http://a3.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/121/b829306239d9492990213cd1dea48623/l.jpg


This picture shows more than words, how to get the masculine lion, and the feminine serpent:

http://a1.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/154/31ee845ab0d044ee886f7f6d74f94f33/l.jpg

These are samples, now kept as amulets, in their half liquid/half solid states.

http://a4.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/152/0fa2171e2a434f6085f0eca2db74cccc/l.jpg

http://a4.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/155/b62d1739fbfb461ca2ba3733ca470f1f/l.jpg

Of course, their union then forms the Green Lion - it now can eat my Sun, and its blood be shed, fermentation begin, and with it, the multiplication of resurrected power of the sacrificed. A bit of this was also kept in a sample vial for amulet purposes.

http://a4.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/155/53097df8d6824fefaf6b9f5f1fca317a/l.jpg

http://a4.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/155/aeab6419503b49c384ad7ac45c66b426/l.jpg

This then goes into fermentation, once all the blood is released. The black sun is now seen.

http://a1.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/153/4d86c9316f854bd4b52ec20c5be80ad7/l.jpg

http://a3.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/42/838ea52460dc47c8a6e1b87fa25e2d1a/l.jpg

Now, last time this process finished, the Philosophical Gold Mine was realized - the "gold" was then worked. This time, it produces Stone fragments - non-rectified though, but not bad either. Possessing the strength of the previous level, but with more... "kick/bite" (due to the fermenting nature). It would be painful to use, at first. But i keep this gem as a sample/keep-sake also. I just like it. ^.^

http://a3.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/42/2d5c63dc8d2349bca7a1eaeaed2f4375/l.jpg

To be continued in the next post....

Seth-Ra
03-11-2013, 04:43 AM
Part 2 - If you havent read part one, please scroll up to post 13 or click here:
http://forum.alchemyforums.com/showthread.php?2826-Throwing-Open-the-Doors-of-my-Lab&p=28285#post28285

Continuing where i left off...

The crystals were then placed in a glass container and heated strongly. This continued all day until the Volatile White was seen.

http://a3.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/116/4c8eb15757054e4bbdc7fb62f2b4a1f6/l.jpg

http://a3.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/63/8efe0aa164ba434cb73492406a433e11/l.jpg

Once cooled, there was a clear separation of liquid, and matter. The liquid was poured off. The matter stayed behind - stuck to the glass. lol The liquid is the Volatile Stone essence.

http://a1.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/154/5884508becf3482f847c6d3e4862ac86/l.jpg

The matter was gathered out of the glass and placed in a metal dish to be calcined - only by fire with the Fixed essence be available. The matter looks like chocolate, and upon being burnt to ash, the heat increased, revealing a strange property it has - to expand - thus it looks like a marsh-mellow. lol It was then ground up, forming a black powder, that was then scorched by the sun with a magnifying glass until it turned white/golden/red - depending.

http://a3.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/153/4ee949367c8444718dd799c7347163b4/l.jpg

http://a2.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/119/e947453d4e5542eaa6a4640ce4ef3d98/l.jpg

http://a4.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/152/18b7491b24cf472db457bb48e008e3c0/l.jpg

The Volatile Essence was added to the prepared earth - it turned black, then green.

http://a2.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/136/fd750a7d8bc24040b984f400d4950778/l.jpg

Soon it turned red and clear as crystal. This was poured up and slowly congealed with a water bath (gently removing excess water). In time, the "Spirit of the Lord hovered over the waters of the deep." and after that, there was Light - trippy rays that i call a "flurry" seen in the waters.

http://a1.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/114/c6286b9431004df5aa51b48ae8ee032e/l.jpg

http://a3.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/37/383dfebebeb441b1a480a5a1926602ea/l.jpg

Then this too was allowed to cool. Upon such, it solidified and revealed the Fixed White on the bottom of the vessel. Quite pretty.

http://a1.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/153/97cd5852781444ed82e3cb06d38900dc/l.jpg

Water bathing continued until it was all united. It congealed, and become a coagulated-blood-red powder, smelling very sweet, with a very fiery taste.

http://a4.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/119/905fa2b13b224911b5099b8bad8de09a/l.jpg

A bit of this is kept in a sample vial as an amulet now also. The rest - to be used as Spirit Wills. ^.^
These are my 4 alchemical vial amulets: Masculine, Feminine, Androgyny, Perfection.

http://a4.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/113/1fa52ca5a235455f8f74b7e9af7a5556/l.jpg

As always, i hope you all enjoy. ^.^




~Seth-Ra

HappyPotter
03-11-2013, 10:48 AM
Wow, profound work Seth, love the style in which you work as well, thanks for sharing/teaching, awesome.

Seth-Ra
03-11-2013, 01:14 PM
Wow, profound work Seth, love the style in which you work as well, thanks for sharing/teaching, awesome.

Thanks. :)

I'm currently still water-bathing it, to remove more of the moisture it holds onto.
I will probably take a small amount (it's quite powerful and concentrated now) and perform a few experiments to show its virtue.
All I can say right now, is that a strange sickness tried to jump me in the process of multiplying it, and with a few sips of the volatile essence alone, I knocked it out in a day. (The experience of that day was rather... "odd" as well. Lol )

I'll probably go gather some roses and begin a bio-experiment to see how it effects them.
Stay tuned....

:)




~Seth-Ra

Nibiru
03-11-2013, 05:04 PM
Excellent job documenting, thank you Seth-Ra!! Please keep us informed as to any effects you get from your stone. I've noticed that alchemical products can sometimes have an effect without the need for consumption. Sometimes this distance effect also seems to effect others within my space, be aware of this possibility.

Kiorionis
03-11-2013, 05:04 PM
Very interesting Seth-Ra!
thanks for sharing :)

theFool
03-11-2013, 06:40 PM
This seems to be great work. Unfortunately the links of your previous work are broken (Aleilius forum no longer online?). As I see it, you concentrate the "life force" of dew onto an earth. I'm curious what kind of earth is it, does it have something similar to ormus? Thanks for sharing!

Seth-Ra
03-12-2013, 12:27 AM
Excellent job documenting, thank you Seth-Ra!! Please keep us informed as to any effects you get from your stone. I've noticed that alchemical products can sometimes have an effect without the need for consumption. Sometimes this distance effect also seems to effect others within my space, be aware of this possibility.

You are quite right Nibiru, which is why i make these vial amulets out of them, and not just use them for consumption alone. There are a lot of... "weird" things that happen around here as a result of my work. I have various shielding in place for my family though. They are blissfully ignorant. :)



Very interesting Seth-Ra!
thanks for sharing :)

My pleasure. :)



This seems to be great work. Unfortunately the links of your previous work are broken (Aleilius forum no longer online?). As I see it, you concentrate the "life force" of dew onto an earth. I'm curious what kind of earth is it, does it have something similar to ormus? Thanks for sharing!

Yes, the links are broken cause the site ceased being public. The creation is similar to the multiplication. The ravaging Lion (Green) is the easy (spiritually) part of the work, physically is straight forward, and is what brings the Sun down to earth so it can die and be reborn. The Sun is the hard (spiritually) part of the work, physically is straight forward, but requires sacrifice, and constitutes the strength of the Work.

The Life does not come from the Dew alone. The Dew is a celestial water - its used a catalyst to return the Life used, back to its celestial root - regardless of the particular signature it once held. The only thing important is the level of Fire within the sacrifices made to make the Sun. For this reason, i use a combination of human, animal and plant life (the highest vibrational/archetypal ones, respectively). Mineral life is in the mix - but not (necessarily) for the Sun. :)

As for ormus earth - nothing of the sort. :)

I can grow a Volatile Stone from water alone - any minute mineral parts used, are only for bodies to house the Spirit - a magnet to hold and continue empowering. Tisnt necessary for the Life/Fire itself to be manifest as an earth.





~Seth-Ra

solomon levi
03-12-2013, 01:01 AM
Really awesome. I love the pictures... such a pleasure to see alchemy in pictures.
Thanks Seth-Ra!

HappyPotter
03-12-2013, 03:46 AM
Thats excellent that the volatile essence alone rectified your health back so quickly Seth-Ra...

Are you going to do some type of a controlled study on say a lab mouse/rat (or something) to observe effects before you start ingesting the final product in quantity?

Although it will be interesting to hear of the effects you observe on some roses..

Seth-Ra
03-12-2013, 04:24 AM
Really awesome. I love the pictures... such a pleasure to see alchemy in pictures.
Thanks Seth-Ra!

Glad you've enjoyed it thus far. I really like trying my hand at the photography, and sometimes it just surprises me with how well the pics turn out. I could fill this thread with all the ones ive taken - but i think ive selected some of the best for the basic outline. :)



Thats excellent that the volatile essence alone rectified your health back so quickly Seth-Ra...

Are you going to do some type of a controlled study on say a lab mouse/rat (or something) to observe effects before you start ingesting the final product in quantity?

Although it will be interesting to hear of the effects you observe on some roses..

Yeah, im doing a controlled test right now using two nearly identical flowers cut from the same bush. (they arent roses, but they will work)
One is in some rain, the other is in rain with some of my finalized essence in liquid form. The one in the rain is a bud about to bloom. The one in the Stone-Water is a bud thats began to bloom. The rain one should show a general life-death-pattern (bloom, wilt, die) in a "normal" amount of time. The Stone one, should, if my previous experiments lend any weight to my educated guess, it should maintain its state - either indefinitely "stalling out"/"freezing in time" - or simply not progressing as quickly as the other one through the death cycle, holding its form as long as it can, slowly withering, and slowly dropping the pedals. In which case, the stem may continue to live, and do so well past the normal one.

I am taking pictures which my phone naturally date-stamps for me. (iPhone 5 - also adding to the great picture quality of my new stuff)
:)
I will show it when its done. (so the pics will be side-by-side comparison.)

Personally, i dont have any qualms about ingesting this material before i test. I mostly do it as an outward side for you all. I will also see if i cant get a video of some of the crystals melting from a candle flame, and what action it has on the metal. (it will tinge the surface just from that - the metal is in more of a flux from the heat, and thus open - like your skin to warm water, allowing the Stone to penetrate more into it. Im thinking of doing this to an entire knife blade to give it special properties - a sort of alchemical anointing.)

Will see what i can get for yall within this next week or two. I dont know how the long flower experiment will take. ;)





~Seth-Ra

HappyPotter
03-12-2013, 11:19 AM
Personally, i dont have any qualms about ingesting this material before i test. I mostly do it as an outward side for you all. Well obviously you have a sharp intuition, but still, take care of yourself bro. Well I certainly appreciate your charitable time and efforts in such an important part of the Great Work and looking forward to the updates...

Thanks again Seth-Ra...

theFool
03-12-2013, 12:17 PM
Yes, the links are broken cause the site ceased being public. The creation is similar to the multiplication. The ravaging Lion (Green) is the easy (spiritually) part of the work, physically is straight forward, and is what brings the Sun down to earth so it can die and be reborn. The Sun is the hard (spiritually) part of the work, physically is straight forward, but requires sacrifice, and constitutes the strength of the Work.

The Life does not come from the Dew alone. The Dew is a celestial water - its used a catalyst to return the Life used, back to its celestial root - regardless of the particular signature it once held. The only thing important is the level of Fire within the sacrifices made to make the Sun. For this reason, i use a combination of human, animal and plant life (the highest vibrational/archetypal ones, respectively). Mineral life is in the mix - but not (necessarily) for the Sun. :)

As for ormus earth - nothing of the sort. :)

I can grow a Volatile Stone from water alone - any minute mineral parts used, are only for bodies to house the Spirit - a magnet to hold and continue empowering. Tisnt necessary for the Life/Fire itself to be manifest as an earth. Thanks for your answers :)

turtleman
03-12-2013, 07:07 PM
What a shame the link went down is there somewhere i an see the information or no

Seth-Ra
03-13-2013, 02:30 AM
Well obviously you have a sharp intuition, but still, take care of yourself bro. Well I certainly appreciate your charitable time and efforts in such an important part of the Great Work and looking forward to the updates...

Thanks again Seth-Ra...

No worries. I am in divine hands. :) The concern is appreciated though. I have a fun update in this post also, hope you enjoy.


Thanks for your answers :)

No problem. I hope the answers provided are beneficial. :)


What a shame the link went down is there somewhere i an see the information or no

Not the old links, no. Only the stuff that starts at post #13. (http://forum.alchemyforums.com/showthread.php?2826-Throwing-Open-the-Doors-of-my-Lab&p=28285#post28285)
The links before then are dead - entirely. Even if you could access it, its only text now - all pics were lost due to a technical problem. (i still have them all - but it is far to time consuming to re-do it, especially since the multiplication is essentially the high-lights of the original making of it).

________

Crystals Melting and Metallic Tinging

Today i used a small amount to show yall some surface tinges. (im using my very own knife blades to show this, they are made of various kinds of steel.)

First, i made a video of the crystals melting at candle flame.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nhf1TZ9HZPs&feature=youtu.be

This is the effects on the knife in the above video:

Before: http://a3.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/116/779455e4c2954a0d86b2a10407955afc/l.jpg After: http://a3.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/113/0946fe597b7d4677b213748e832042ff/l.jpg

Pretty noticeable tinge. :)

Then i used my bigger knife, and left it longer. It made a lovely rainbow effect as well as the golden streaking throughout it. I couldnt get a good picture of this, but it has a purple-tint to it when not in the light. (similar to colloidal gold, but made solid). Still, in the light its lovely. :)

Before: http://a4.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/120/82d6c445b1564d4ab80d90094dd37904/l.jpg After: http://a4.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/154/9482a91fb1f9438d898d6471d19df75a/l.jpg

Also reminds me of an article i read years back, about scimitars made in the early days of the crusades. They would "glow blue" (shine blue?) in the sunlight, and were stronger than normal ones. When i read it, i figured the arab alchemists probably worked in conjunction with the sword-smiths to create such things. At some point, the knowledge was lost (probably cause many were killed and a lot of information/books etc were taken back to Europe) and they no longer produced them. It was thought to be myth until a relic of one of these swords was found. Scientists discovered carbon-nano-fibers running throughout the blade giving it its abnormally strong and resilient qualities, and the reason (possibly) for its blue glow.
Ive wanted to recreate such - and if i ever find a smith that would incorporate whatever powder i hand them into the molten steel, id do it. ;)
Sadly, they'd probably ask to many questions about it, or not do it at all. So for now, i just outwardly tinge the blades. If i allowed them to soak in liquid tincture for an extended amount of time, it would probably penetrate all the way through. I may try this at a later date, but that day is not today. :p



Im still closely monitoring my plant experiment. To soon to report anything at present.

More to come. :D




~Seth-Ra

HappyPotter
03-13-2013, 06:12 AM
Well that's the closest I've ever seen to an Alchemical elixir tinging metal like that and like you said that's just a light tinge for now. So I have to commend you on your expertise, fascinating work Seth-Ra and thanks for the update, truly inspiring.

Lol yeah I can see you now trying to explain to a dazed and confused sword smith that you want to use this magical wizards powder in creating your sword, awesome haha...

Nibiru
03-13-2013, 06:34 AM
Lol yeah I can see you now trying to explain to a dazed and confused sword smith that you want to use this magical wizards powder in creating your sword, awesome haha...

I feel that the ideal scenario would be to find a sword-smith who is not "dazed and confused" to Incorporate your stone into the sword, or learn to create one yourself :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8h9JUe1uITs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8h9JUe1uITs

HappyPotter
03-13-2013, 09:38 AM
How artful to be able to make your own stone infused sword ole school style like in that video or with an open minded swordsmith you could trust, considering they are basically alchemist in their own unique way.

Btw, cool tunes Nibiru...

Nibiru
03-13-2013, 09:44 AM
How artful to be able to make your own stone infused sword ole school style like in that video or with an open minded swordsmith you could trust, considering they are basically alchemist in their own unique way.

Btw, cool tunes Nibiru...

Thanks :) I agree, I would love to learn the art of sword making, even if only for the experience of it.. A sword can also be used as a spiritual/magickal tool and I'm sure it would be a much more effective tool if it were hand made, and enhanced with your own stone would certainly be a nice touch as well.

HappyPotter
03-13-2013, 09:56 AM
I would love to learn the art of sword making, even if only for the experience of it

Yeah it would be a great skill to learn thats for sure and Karl's post on glass blowing would be great as well and I see what you mean in regards to an enhanced self made magical tool...

Salazius
03-13-2013, 03:14 PM
Vry nice Seth Ra :)

I like the melting stone on the blade !

Yes you can still leanr to create your own blade, just begin by trying to heat it "cherry red" and then incorporate in it, maybe with a fusible and ingressive salt, some kind of sulfur of manganese, or iron (or both).

Solazaref speaks about the ways old smiths used to create a vibrant blade (like a bell), using the birds to eat the powder of iron, in "DE L’ESPRIT UNIVERSEL Vol. 1 V.I.T.R.I.O.L.U.M"


Une épée de chevalier est réalisée dans un acier très spécial, dont seuls quelques forgerons ont le secret. Ce n’est pas n’importe quel maréchal-ferrant qui conçoit l’épée des maîtres ! Car elle est conçue (il appuie ce mot), elle prend vie, déjà depuis le façonnage de la matière première elle-même. »

Comment donc un petit oiseau pouvait-il avoir regagné Jérusalem ? Se battre ? Ou même, métaphoriquement, peut-être parler au coeur des Chevaliers ? Devant mon silence, Nadiéjdovitch s’expliqua enfin :
« Ce sont les petits oiseaux qui régénèrent le merveilleux acier alchimique. Les forgerons, qui étaient choisis pour cette tâche et qui connaissaient les alchimistes les plus réputés au point d’être confondus avec eux, capturaient des dizaines d’oiseaux juste pour quelques semaines et les relâchaient dans la nature, une fois en possession de leurs excréments.
Nous prenions un fer battu comme je te l’ai déjà expliqué et, une fois coupé en très fins copeaux, nous mêlions cette poudre de fer impalpable à de la farine que mangeaient les oiseaux. Les excréments recueillis étaient fondus avec tout l’apport du feu secret :
une quantité considérable de scories se séparait de l’acier très-subtil et l’opération était recommencée au moins une fois. Puis, cet acier était réduit en lamelles très infimes, assemblées par la suite sur l’enclume du forgeron à l’aide de la poudre de verre dont je t’ai aussi parlé.
...Cet acier a une sonorité particulière, qui faisait peur à l’ennemi dans le combat. En outre, il a la propriété de vibrer selon une fréquence évitant les infrasons, ce qui rend l’utilisation de l’épée particulièrement facile. Elle semblait très légère en croisant sa concurrente. Il faut souligner aussi que l’épée était forgée à la taille du chevalier, ce qui lui imprimait des propriétés inexistantes pour d’autres chevaliers ou simplement d’autres hommes. En des mains indignes, elle ne valait pas mieux qu’un vulgaire sabre lourd, peu maniable et inadapté à la force d’attaque qui était la sienne.
Car le forgeron voyait longtemps le futur chevalier avant de lui confectionner son épée, mesurant sa force de frappe, afin d’assembler à l’enclume telle quantité de lames, etc... L’épée ainsi conçue était unique et, dans les mains de son maître, elle était plus redoutable qu’un canon ! ».

« ...Si je t’ai parlé de cette épée, c’est pour te dire que tous les métaux gagnent à être fermentes"

Seth-Ra
03-14-2013, 01:05 AM
Thanks for all the replies everyone - really good info going around. :D

I know, in principle/theory, how to make a sword and knife (atleast katana and katana-like blades lol) but i dont have anyway to attempt to practice or try at it with my current living conditions or money situations. Its not a "need" for me. One day id like to try it - but the time is not right. Im content with enhancing/enchanting pro-made blades for now. :)

I think if i have any tincture left over from my plant experiment, and if i can find me a knew pocket knife/athame (my original knives - the two in the previous pics, have mostly been converted to lab-utinsels, so i have been looking for something for practical as well as magickal use) then i will perform the infusing experiment and give the results.

The plants are showing signs - bout what i expected. The Stone one has initial leaf changing, but seems to have "stalled" now - seems frozen. The normal one is now experiencing some leaf changing, and the flower is beginning to further its life/death cycle by opening. This will make more sense when i show the full results and pics. (like said, saving them so they will be side-by-side, like a time-lapse showing.)

___________

Salazius,

I appreciate the ideas and the text. Do you by chance have an english translation of it? I could attempt it myself, but i fear its accuracy or meaning of important things might be lost in the process. Either way, thank you for sharing it. :)




~Seth-Ra

HappyPotter
03-14-2013, 01:37 PM
The Stone one has initial leaf changing, but seems to have "stalled" now - seems frozen.

Truly fascinating experiment Seth-Ra, that's for sure, hope it's a 'permanent' success, thanks again..

thrival
03-17-2013, 11:41 PM
Thanks for posting, Seth. Are there any previous artists you followed or can refer re: the basis for your work? Thanks again.

Seth-Ra
03-18-2013, 11:11 PM
Thanks for posting, Seth. Are there any previous artists you followed or can refer re: the basis for your work? Thanks again.


None that have said they do as i do, no. Anything read, studied, or watched was all Principle - to my knowledge my expression of said Principles, is my expression. If someone else does operate similar to myself, why, id have to call them Brother/Sister. :D

I cant name exact books that ive read as the list would be to long, and at present ive not read in... a while... lol a lot of it is pure initiation and spiritual intuition. :)
I also find pictures speak better than words, but Spirit and intuition speak best of all. ;)
_______________


Plant Experiment Update

Ive started over with a different species. I dont know what kind i used originally, but it had some weird habits that were hard to tell what either was doing. (It was so crazy, even the controlled one didnt tell me anything more than the Stone one. O_o)

So, i picked some dandelion flowers and are testing with them. (lot of info on them, impossible to mistake them, and shorter life-span = faster test. :) )




~Seth-Ra

thrival
03-19-2013, 05:15 PM
Seth-Ra:

Maybe you are aware, but I thought I'd mention in case you were not, or to future posessors of the stone, who live in USA. Older alchemists reported, and I've heard it said that modern gold smelters and hallmarking companies, can pretty much tell by impurities, where gold articles originate. The problem is that alchemical gold and silver is too pure and can rouse suspicions. The solution to that is not difficult but the artist simply needs to know that it's politically important to not stand out by presenting the best gold a commercial buyer has ever seen. The solution is simply secure dirt from an area where gold is not so rare, and smelt it with your alchemy gold, to absorb some impurities of the former.

Seth-Ra
03-19-2013, 06:30 PM
Seth-Ra:

Maybe you are aware, but I thought I'd mention in case you were not, or to future posessors of the stone, who live in USA. Older alchemists reported, and I've heard it said that modern gold smelters and hallmarking companies, can pretty much tell by impurities, where gold articles originate. The problem is that alchemical gold and silver is too pure and can rouse suspicions. The solution to that is not difficult but the artist simply needs to know that it's politically important to not stand out by presenting the best gold a commercial buyer has ever seen. The solution is simply secure dirt from an area where gold is not so rare, and smelt it with your alchemy gold, to absorb some impurities of the former.


Tis good info. I knew about such, but i dont make full-transmutes either. I have enough of my work to do a few tests for everyone, but im not interested in making gold, for any reason. Tis why i only do what i call these "cold-tinges", which is basically fuzing the Stone into the metal of my blades, giving them new tint, and enhanced Spirit, themselves. :)

But for any that want to make and sell gold, indeed they need to be careful about how they make it look and where they sell it.

Some would say my tests and work is left a bit "open-ended" because of what i wont do/show. That is for my own bit of security though. :)

Question ive always thought was cute: If gold is scientifically "impossible to make via alchemy" - then why is it illegal in many countries also? ;)





~Seth-Ra

thrival
03-19-2013, 08:01 PM
Seth:

I'm curious why you chose to merge the sun & moon. You could have used your mercury on either one but you chose both; so like I said... curious.

Seth-Ra
03-19-2013, 09:32 PM
Seth:

I'm curious why you chose to merge the sun & moon. You could have used your mercury on either one but you chose both; so like I said... curious.

I'm afraid I'm not following your terminology/meaning. Would you elaborate for me?
Are to talking about where I used my alkahest to get the masculine and feminine?




~Seth-Ra

turtleman
03-19-2013, 09:46 PM
well whats the basic way you cast the stone on a metal to transmute it to gold

Seth-Ra
03-19-2013, 10:04 PM
well whats the basic way you cast the stone on a metal to transmute it to gold

Are you asking how I tinge and infuse my knives, or are you asking how would one do a full metallic transmute?

I have two methods if enchanting/infusing/tinging my blades. But it's not the full-transmute. They wouldn't be knives if I did that. For a full transmute, the metal must be open/in-flux, ie molten. (Or at least glowing red hot if the Stone is penetrating enough)




~Seth-Ra

turtleman
03-19-2013, 10:36 PM
I was asking about the full transmutation but I would love to know your methods of infusinge a blade aswell

Seth-Ra
03-20-2013, 12:10 AM
I was asking about the full transmutation but I would love to know your methods of infusinge a blade aswell

Ill do a brief write-up of my methods in the post where I show what I did with a brand knew knife. ;)

Also, Hohenheim's/Paracelsus' words about the dose being the poison or cure, are even true for metals. I keep doing it more and more and more and it "antiques" the blade, even wearing away the edge. (It's as if it is trying to eat and turn it into more of itself.)
But I like it and it works perfectly well, it is also responding to my intent better too, more easily opening and closing (it's a folder, and it wouldn't open or close easily when I got it, and even after only doing the blade a bit, it began responding to me) and cutting what I want, when I want.

For any familiar with the "hamon"/temper-line on a blade, the infusion looks like that, but glows various colors in the light, namely golden.
I'm continuing to toy with it cause it just makes it arcanely more powerful. It is looking quite old though. Tis funny IMO. :)




~Seth-Ra

thrival
03-20-2013, 12:36 AM
I'm afraid I'm not following your terminology/meaning. Would you elaborate for me?
Are to talking about where I used my alkahest to get the masculine and feminine?

Yes, that's what I meant. But I'm also assuming from the pictogram of the sun & moon sitting on the bench waiting patiently, those were your ingredients. You also mentioned "sacrifice" elsewhere, so those would be the materials that came at a price? ..., vs. the free (or relatively cheap) ones. Of course it's quite possible I'm misreading you.

Seth-Ra
03-20-2013, 04:22 PM
Yes, that's what I meant. But I'm also assuming from the pictogram of the sun & moon sitting on the bench waiting patiently, those were your ingredients. You also mentioned "sacrifice" elsewhere, so those would be the materials that came at a price? ..., vs. the free (or relatively cheap) ones. Of course it's quite possible I'm misreading you.

Ah. No, those metals are not used.
It is said that "lead" (cheap, base) materials are what its made from. Such is the case.

The picture shows a good deal, especially in its colors. The King is wearing the same color as the alchemist. The Queen is wearing blue - yet their essence is shown as yellow (lion) and green (snake). Blue or green are possible for the Queen. The only other thing that is green, is the plant stems themselves. Plants are important for the opening-up, the alkahest used.

But, from of interesting note/similarity - a bit of fun from some molecular geometry:

Why are chlorophyll green?

http://www.rsc.org/images/Walker_structure%201_tcm18-140649.jpg

And then the living metal:

http://img1.guidechem.com/chem/e/dict/77/13007-96-0.jpg

Same design. Shape/design brings in the energy and sends it out - the eyes perceive this as color. :)

As for the King, Hohenheim said it best:


But Mars acquires dominion. with strong and pugnacious hand, and seizes on the position of king. - Coelum Philosophorum.

All of this is nothing without the work of my chosen alkahest - which i thank Jabir for. ;)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jābir_ibn_Hayyān

As per your inquiry to the "Sacrifice" - monetary value has nothing to do with it. Tis a thing of Life. (and without it, the above mentioned is merely a body/vessel, a magnet at best, without nearly the same potency or ability, though useful for what it is if one is inclined to it. :) )




~Seth-Ra

Kiorionis
03-20-2013, 06:31 PM
All of this is nothing without the work of my chosen alkahest - which i thank Jabir for. ;)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jābir_ibn_Hayyān

I've been meaning to study some of the Arabic alchemists. . . so out of curiosity which of Jabir's works are you referring to?

turtleman
03-20-2013, 07:04 PM
For a full transmute, the metal must be open/in-flux, ie molten. (Or at least glowing red hot if the Stone is penetrating enough)




~Seth-Ra so you just get the metal molten then through in your stone? or should you liquefy it or something first

Seth-Ra
03-20-2013, 07:09 PM
I've been meaning to study some of the Arabic alchemists. . . so out of curiosity which of Jabir's works are you referring to?

As I said, I work "out of book" - but I give him credit as he is credited with the discovery of the substance. :)
Tis something hidden in plain sight.



~Seth-Ra

Seth-Ra
03-20-2013, 07:13 PM
so you just get the metal molten then through in your stone? or should you liquefy it or something first

You don't have to liquefy the Stone, it'll melt like candle wax.




~Seth-Ra

Kiorionis
03-20-2013, 07:32 PM
As I said, I work "out of book" - but I give him credit as he is credited with the discovery of the substance. :)
Tis something hidden in plain sight.

~Seth-Ra

Hmm, I think I mispoke :p
When I asked which work you were referring to I meant which of his books? I am aware of The 112 Books and The Books on Balance (though I have read neither).

Seth-Ra
03-20-2013, 07:45 PM
Hmm, I think I mispoke :p
When I asked which work you were referring to I meant which of his books? I am aware of The 112 Books and The Books on Balance (though I have read neither).

No, no. Lol XD you didn't mispeak - by "work out of book" I also meant I haven't read his books. (Though I've heard good things)
Tis something I was directed to, and pictures confirmed what bit I was reading and feeling. (Reading in this sense was just background info, again not a book)



~Seth-Ra

Kiorionis
03-20-2013, 08:11 PM
ahsei, thanks for the clarification :)

thrival
03-21-2013, 02:12 AM
Yes as I recall from nutritional studies, heme assumes the same structure as chlorophyll, but for a difference of its central atom. Another member mentioned to me where you get your life ingredient from, apparently he read your earlier posts that have since gone away. Lucky you for living in an area of the country where you can access such ingredients almost year round. Thanks for clearing up those other things.


Ah. No, those metals are not used.
It is said that "lead" (cheap, base) materials are what its made from. Such is the case.

The picture shows a good deal, especially in its colors. The King is wearing the same color as the alchemist. The Queen is wearing blue - yet their essence is shown as yellow (lion) and green (snake). Blue or green are possible for the Queen. The only other thing that is green, is the plant stems themselves. Plants are important for the opening-up, the alkahest used.

But, from of interesting note/similarity - a bit of fun from some molecular geometry:

Why are chlorophyll green?

http://www.rsc.org/images/Walker_structure%201_tcm18-140649.jpg

And then the living metal:

http://img1.guidechem.com/chem/e/dict/77/13007-96-0.jpg

Same design. Shape/design brings in the energy and sends it out - the eyes perceive this as color. :)

As for the King, Hohenheim said it best:

"But Mars acquires dominion. with strong and pugnacious hand, and seizes on the position of king. "

- Coelum Philosophorum.

All of this is nothing without the work of my chosen alkahest - which i thank Jabir for. ;)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jābir_ibn_Hayyān

As per your inquiry to the "Sacrifice" - monetary value has nothing to do with it. Tis a thing of Life. (and without it, the above mentioned is merely a body/vessel, a magnet at best, without nearly the same potency or ability, though useful for what it is if one is inclined to it. :) )




~Seth-Ra

Seth-Ra
03-21-2013, 02:24 AM
ahsei, thanks for the clarification :)

Certainly. :)


Yes as I recall from nutritional studies, heme assumes the same structure as chlorophyll, but for a difference of its central atom. Another member mentioned to me where you get your life ingredient from, apparently he read your earlier posts that have since gone away. Lucky you for living in an area of the country where you can access such ingredients almost year round. Thanks for clearing up those other things.

You are correct about heme. :)

Depends on which Life-ingredient. Life, like all energies/Spirit, comes in various frequencies/vibrations. ;)




~Seth-Ra

thrival
03-23-2013, 03:49 AM
Seth--

Do you have any pics and posts of processes leading up to the very beginning of this one, i.e. your first stone you were ingesting and whose remains in the amulet you show beginning of this thread? Thanks.

Seth-Ra
03-24-2013, 12:20 AM
Seth--

Do you have any pics and posts of processes leading up to the very beginning of this one, i.e. your first stone you were ingesting and whose remains in the amulet you show beginning of this thread? Thanks.

Posts yes - but they no longer have pics to them, and it would take hours to compile it all again. (was a good 2 pages worth plus id have to weed-out conversations and bits that are not relevant here)
Most of it was shown/covered here already, as i said - the multiplication is almost identical to the original making.




~Seth-Ra

thrival
03-24-2013, 01:02 PM
Got it (I think.) One last question, does your process make use of any particular ag chemical/fertilizer? Also I think yours is a very unique process, obtaining mixed mercuries from lesser materials to create a stable product, that can effect tingings, without adding a programming metal. There are only a couple other processes I've read that do that and yours is neither of those.

Kiorionis
03-24-2013, 02:07 PM
Also I think yours is a very unique process, obtaining mixed mercuries from lesser materials to create a stable product, that can effect tingings, without adding a programming metal.

I was under the impression the tinging comes about from an ingressive earth which carries the soul along with it. . .

thrival
03-24-2013, 06:15 PM
I think Seth might tell you the two descriptions (yours & mine) are not mutually exclusive; but he also mentions using two (male & female) ingredients along with his alkahest and living matter. Also, my understanding is that earths themselves don't do much, but are merely carriers of soul & spirit.

Kiorionis
03-24-2013, 07:55 PM
Yes I agree thrival, ours are not mutually exclusive. My 'ingressive earth' would be the Mercury Principle and the 'soul' would be the double-headed eagle, or the Androgyne. . . also most likely the Phoenix (maybe you, Seth-Ra, can enlighten me on this point if I appear confused or incorrect).

My curiousity was raised when you mentioned adding a 'programming metal'. I didn't know such was necessary for tinging to occur.

thrival
03-24-2013, 08:57 PM
Of course Seth-Ra can explain himself, why he does things a certain way. It looks like a new process to me, he's borrowing old illustrations to describe his processes but the original artists did it differently.

A lot of the recipes I've read, some using antimony, or SM, urine salts, nitre, quicksilver, etc. operated in two phases, the first producing a philosophical mercury, and then digesting it with physical silver or gold to produce the white or red stone respectively. Some combined the latter two and that's what I thought Seth-Ra was doing initially, but he corrected me. Once those (other artists') stones were finished, they could be increased in volume and strength by adding more of their mercuries and/or performing more digestions.

Well obviously you are right, from the evidence! Tinging does NOT require the addition of silver or gold! But the number of recipes you'll find that don't call for adding sun or moon, are few. I'm glad you're right because gold & silver are expensive ingredients, and can be lost in process if a person doesn't know what they're doing.

Seth-Ra
03-26-2013, 04:53 AM
To yall's conversation - yes. :) lol

The "earth" (Salt) is merely the Sulphur/Mercury coagulated. The Mercury is the bridge between the two, so yes, it would be the "ingressive earth" if you chose to see it as such - and most definitely the Soul/Life is the Phoenix, for it cannot die, only change vehicle - from flame to smoke to ash to tincture to crystal etc etc etc.

It would indeed surprise me if my method/recipe was in any book. :)
The Principles, sure, but to my knowledge, i work outside of them. Genuine personal expression.


As for my tests - i have a pretty pic of some tin i tinged when i was playing with my Stone (playing with form and function lol), and my plants are going slow - waiting on the controlled one to catch up.

The first day, my Stone one closed - within 3 days it was "seeding" - it shed its petals and got the white fibers. They are not progressing anymore - seems stationary now. Its taken about a week+ and the controlled one is finally starting to seed.
The Stone took a "toll" for it - eating the stem bit by bit. (i removed pieces in segments as it got soft/broken-down/solved) It is now about an inch left and the head itself. This is a quality i expected - it breakdowns and recreates the subject in various ways. A sort of personal "price" to be paid. I believe this is why if pushed to a to-high degree, it is considered only good for metals, in that an organic structure would have to be "special" itself to handle the "toll" for using it that high.
In any event, the main piece of the plant im concerned with (the head/flower part) is being sustained and infact "frozen" in time as far as i can tell.

The controlled one is just now beginning to seed - finally catching up, and i have a feeling it i will die/fade, with the Stone one not losing another fiber. Time will tell.
I'll get the pics ready and up soon. Things have been a bit hectic with me lately (other things going on) - but i have various pics and a video i need to upload and post for yall. Will try to later this week. :)





~Seth-Ra

solomon levi
03-26-2013, 08:32 AM
i love to hear your reports Seth-ra. thanks.

HappyPotter
03-27-2013, 07:05 AM
Interesting the Stone cycled the plant through its cycle quicker than the natural controlled plant Seth-Ra. But it makes sense that the Stone multiplied and further would most likely be only used on the metals since it seems to be alchemically transmuting the plant stem radically as you say, shall be interesting to see if it immortalizes the plant in the next update. Btw interesting reports on your tinged blades and the magickal effects, correlates with what Salazius posted from DE L’ESPRIT UNIVERSEL that these alchemically treated blades have a magickal effect with its owner. Once again thanks for teaching insights into your Work.

turtleman
03-27-2013, 09:48 PM
do tell what do you administer to the plant and how also if you use a liquid do you give the plant just that liquid or water as well?

Seth-Ra
04-02-2013, 10:19 PM
do tell what do you administer to the plant and how also if you use a liquid do you give the plant just that liquid or water as well?

I administer the red powder shown - but yes, its made tincture by rain-water. :)


Picture Update


Ok, first - the knife.


So i bought a brand new knife, a winchester, folder. I wanted it for athame purposes - both spiritual and practical, and i liked the wood handle for its natural feel.

So, here is the blade:

http://a1.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/119/0c823860acce430d9287cdd70311b69f/l.jpg

After a good infusion of stone material into it - you can see the various colors, mostly the purple, with a touch of red and gold.

http://a4.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/48/da448d56a76247198596eedc0d3f076b/l.jpg

Then, after cleaning, and scrubbing etc - so that it is nice and sterile and clean (no more material on it), you can see what looks like a hamon - the wispy-streaks in the blade; when shown to the light, you can see the colors. Its like a sign of its enchantment.

http://a2.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/150/f1fa8a0be21c4799b302fa7f869d03d3/l.jpg


Here is also a video - it shows a bit of how to force/entice the Spirit into the blade using fire (not the only method i did, but a good one to show its volatility - and that it can produce blue fire).


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZdyhcYVOfk&feature=youtu.be

______

The Plants

First - the two dandelions, picked from the same plant on the same day at the same stage.
The one on the left is the Stone one, and the one on the right is the control, getting only rain.

http://a4.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/154/24fdad2027574dbda9c80e186cbd3ceb/l.jpg

The Stone one quickly experienced accelerated growth-cycling, closing on the first day, and by the time the controlled one closed, the Stone one was already seeding out.

http://a1.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/144/c48cbdcb3a9a4966be0dd4cab82aa906/l.jpg

As i said, the tincture took a toll, which was the stem, bit by bit. It ate it from the bottom, and i just removed the devoured pieces as they occurred. At the spot where it is now, it has ceased eating it, and the strength is retained within the rest of the plant.

http://a4.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/134/f9888cb3d1d54397804122f7144f5761/l.jpg

The above has been that way for about a week now.
The controlled one finally fully seeded, looking a bit better at first...

http://a4.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/41/eca21899749d4932a5fa01cfcc67350b/l.jpg

But Time is not on its side - and not having gone half the time of the Stone one, it already begins to die. The stem is failing at both ends, and the plant is losing all its strength completely. (i just took this pic yesterday, it looks even worse now)

http://a3.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/64/923f4750296f469a91805a65a417bfa9/l.jpg

The Stone one, however, retains its strength, and, though humbled in stature, keeps its head high and unflinching at the thing called Time.

http://a4.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/60/01476823b8084d1db7a51d6779389de0/l.jpg


I have learned, there is a way to further enhance/bring-out the Spirit of my Stone (without multiplying), like a "proper method of use", which is good to know. (tis Spirit and Experience-taught).

The effects are more grand than a few pictures, and its influence, much more than can be contained in a vial. As a talisman, its wonderful. Language lacks the words. :)

As i further grow it, i'll keep all informed, as well as any new plans for another multiplication.

Im currently doing some side-work with my Green Lion and the Oil of Gold (Au). I may post it here, or i might make a new thread. But, thats gonna be a bit, as im still setting the stage for the operations. :cool:
(Mostly working on getting more of the oil)


Hope yall enjoy, as always - more to come. ^.^





~Seth-Ra

Kiorionis
04-04-2013, 12:06 AM
wonderful to see! your video was cool :)

Seth-Ra
04-04-2013, 01:46 AM
wonderful to see! your video was cool :)

Thanks! I do love the blue flames - i played with that method quite a bit (it enchanted me as much as the blade. ;) )

Also - the vapor escaping, the light/fire emitting - etc etc, it doesnt destroy the physical form of the Stone. The ash left (you can see it expand after the flame gets so hot - odd that...) acts a magnet to pull the essence back from the air/ether if one chooses too. :)

Also, pics i took just last night:

The foliage at the base of the Stone's flower - still green, life retained (even with the stem reddish/rustic black), even after 1.5 - 2 weeks in that form.

http://a4.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/154/78c57b2c2a9044a68ee06e35cddd0c9b/l.jpg

Whereas the controlled, even more limp/broken/dying, shows a black and dead base after only a few days/half a week.

http://a3.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/154/4287e17aacca45aba6323464d9164cb4/l.jpg

Also, i apologize for the lighting differences - using my iPhone 5's camera, it was having trouble focusing, and i only have two hands (was having to hold back the white seeds as much as i could while showing what was under it, keeping my hands steady, and taking the pic. lol i took several, those are the best i can get). Both used the flash cause my room's lighting was to dark. I will try to get some better ones later. It seems we have roses blooming again - so i may replicate with them. (i have a rose bud i turned "immortal" from a tincture i made years ago - same principles at work, but not as strong as this, nor same expression of principles. I may get pics of it also - its been at room temperature, exposed to the elements, and sometimes sun light. It doesnt fade color, nor rot/wither.)

Final pic, the petals that were shed "naturally" (Stone's was sped up).
The one on the left is the Stone one's, the one on the right is the controlled - the Stone one has less death/black, and also lacks the uniformity/cone-spiral. XD lol I blame the fiery energy of the tincture. ;)

http://a3.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/48/53e4c73def4548699375a0f4e9823d18/l.jpg






~Seth-Ra

Dendritic Xylem
04-04-2013, 09:23 PM
Experiments with plants!!!!!
I LOVE IT! :D:D:D:D:D

Thanks very much for posting your Work.

HappyPotter
04-11-2013, 09:52 AM
Great update Seth-Ra, so I take it the experiment was a success, which is quite mind boggling to say the least.

turtleman
06-05-2013, 10:55 PM
It is said that "lead" (cheap, base) materials are what its made from. Such is the case.
I have heard of the stone being made with bismuth might that be the substance you used?

Seth-Ra
06-06-2013, 01:06 AM
I have heard of the stone being made with bismuth might that be the substance you used?

Nope. Never even held bismuth. :)




~Seth-Ra

Seth-Ra
10-17-2013, 08:17 PM
Ive been conducting more experiments on living things, namely roses.

I found that even in the most dilute of solutions, my stone of this thread will accelerate the growth cycle of the plant, killing the petals, but the stem and all will stay alive longer (as long as the tincture its being fed isnt strong enough to burn up the plant).

I wanted to try it on roses that were not already opened though, to see if taking the tincture at a particular time in the life cycle would change it.

I have 3 vials running together.
Starting on the left:

•My control, a pink rose in rain.

•A yellow and orange rose in a freshly made oak tincture.

•A purple rose in my stone tincture.

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Within a day or two, all three are drinking their waters (the rain one had to be filled up twice during the entirety of the experiment), and the control is beginning to bloom. The other two are not.

https://scontent-a-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/q71/1379434_734317283262070_1626245622_n.jpg


By the end of the experiment this was the result. (i apologize for the bad lighting).
The controlled bloomed what it would and began to wilt and die. The oak one was a little withered and didnt open much, but still alive and preserved. The stone one opened a bit more than the oak, is more "plump"/"full" (not appearing dried out or weakened) and preserved.

https://scontent-a-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/q75/1376323_734317576595374_1505785168_n.jpg


These are close ups of the individual ones at the end:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/q71/1384332_734317656595366_765259198_n.jpg


https://scontent-b-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/q75/1379391_734317733262025_543074913_n.jpg


https://scontent-b-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/q71/1383333_734317846595347_718862633_n.jpg



I took them all from their waters and are seeing if they further change. The control/rain one shriveled more, and its stem is turning brown. The oak one seems the same, but its stem is half brown/dead. The Stone one's stem is still green, only aging a little compared to the other two. I will get those pics in a day or two after more time has passed. :)


Enjoy.





~Seth-Ra

LostGnosticOccultum
10-17-2013, 08:49 PM
Nice experiment Seth-Ra :) It appears that your stone slows the aging of the flower, I wonder if the same would happen in animals if dosed regularly (you could get 3 gold fish and try this same experiment with them)

GOD Bless, LGO

Seth-Ra
10-17-2013, 08:56 PM
Nice experiment Seth-Ra :) It appears that your stone slows the aging of the flower, I wonder if the same would happen in animals if dosed regularly (you could get 3 gold fish and try this same experiment with them)

GOD Bless, LGO


Ya know, ive actually tested things on a beta once... it changed his environment more than him i think. Where normally id have to change his water once a week, i was able to do it once a month, or every 3 months... XD lol
He was hella strong/resilient too, might have had something to do with it.

Need something with a short lifespan though. Not really feeling like testing it for years at a time. ;)

Who knows though, i might just do it.





~Seth-Ra

Ilos
10-17-2013, 10:17 PM
Hey Seth,
I like what you have done here, It says allot.
could you do another similar experiment but this time with 80% water and 20% of your stone tincture mixed together :)

Kiorionis
10-17-2013, 10:38 PM
That's a beautiful deep purple color in your Stone-rose! Wonderful to see :)

don't fruit flies have fairly short life spans?

Ghislain
10-18-2013, 12:38 AM
Humans have a relatively short lifespan.

Ghislain

Seth-Ra
10-18-2013, 03:48 AM
Hey Seth,
I like what you have done here, It says allot.
could you do another similar experiment but this time with 80% water and 20% of your stone tincture mixed together :)

Thank you. :)

I think i see what youre asking/going for; dilute enough to allow it to fully bloom, and at that moment, preserve - right? its worth a shot to atleast try it. :)
But i know there is a point in the life cycle where the petals will fall away instead of preserve. (reminds me of the stories of humans losing hair, nails etc).


That's a beautiful deep purple color in your Stone-rose! Wonderful to see :)

don't fruit flies have fairly short life spans?

Yeah its a beautiful dark color. :)

Lol those would be kinda tricky to work with, due to dosing sizes and such. ;)

Upon looking into the fish idea, i could get creative, though some might call it cruel. *shrugs*


Humans have a relatively short lifespan.

Ghislain

Have you any volunteers in mind? :p

I actually could come up with some... but still, takes longer than im wanting, unless i OD them to then reap the materials back with their life added to the mix... which i wouldnt do... maybe. >)



Lol jokes aside though, i very well may try on some fish next. Right now im working on something more awesome than this method though. (i know, it surprises me too. ;) )

This work was my oldest, and has a lot of time and effort into it, and no doubt its quite useful for many many things - nevertheless time and Spirit have taught and showed things along the way, and im delving into a higher mindset than what this process was.

Same Arcane Principles, different modus operandi, better manifestation. :cool:

But more on that later. ;)





~Seth-Ra

Seth-Ra
10-25-2013, 09:51 PM
Well as promised, the results of the stems.

The controlled is totally black. The oak one is mostly dead, with stark green at the head. My stone one has some death like the oak and green at the head of the flower.

The alchemical products "live" while nature just rotted away. :)

https://scontent-b-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/1379425_739341439426321_641712917_n.jpg




~Seth-Ra

Ilos
10-25-2013, 11:05 PM
Hey Seth,
What about calcining some earth, purifying it, mixing it with water, turn it into earth tincture. Maybe than the flowers will have all the nutrition's that it needs to grow :D

Seth-Ra
10-25-2013, 11:16 PM
Hey Seth,
What about calcining some earth, purifying it, mixing it with water, turn it into earth tincture. Maybe than the flowers will have all the nutrition's that it needs to grow :D


Lol grow isnt the goal - ceasing of aging/death is, and by extension, "growth".


Bud <---------(growth)----- Bloom-------(growth)-------->Death

I want to pry it out of that line, and have it just "be". ;)

That is the point of it. :)




~Seth-Ra

Ilos
10-25-2013, 11:30 PM
Oh that's simple :P than you just find a way to reproduce the fresh new nucleuses continuously (ouroborosly) and that's it the plant wont die just bloom :D