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otove
05-26-2012, 01:16 PM
Something occurred to me, these 4 words of the Paternoster may correspond to YHVH, or different degrees of manifestation. Thy(Identity) and Be (Existence) forming two (PASSIVE WITHIN ACTIVE) poles, with Will (Impulse) and Done (action) forming their (ACTIVE WITHIN PASSIVE )antipodes. +/-

Thy – Fire
Will – Air
Be – water
Done – Earth

May seem far fetched, but as a way of manifesting/congealing what one prayed for, it would stand to reason, no?

Ghislain
05-26-2012, 02:12 PM
Anything is possible :)

Would coagulation be a better word?

Ghislain

otove
05-26-2012, 03:05 PM
Ah, of course! thats the word :D

Otove

...But is it likely?

zoas23
05-27-2012, 10:23 AM
If you use the English version you have 4 words....
If you use the Latin version there's only 3 (Fiat voluntas tua)... the Greek version has 4 (γενηθήτω τὸ θέλημά σου /genitheto to thιlemα sou) but they are very different words even if the mean the same.

γενηθήτω = something like "make it happen"
τὸ = "the"
θέλημά = "will"
σου = "of yours"

the theory... It makes more sense in English than in other languages.

Ghislain
05-28-2012, 12:57 AM
Otove

I was looking at the processes in alchemy and to my surprise coagulation was'nt mentioned
however congelation was...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Alchemical_processes

Guess your word was more appropriate.

As to "is it likely?"

I am not very good with etymology or enigmas, but I would go with likely :)

Ghislain

otove
05-29-2012, 10:41 AM
Otove

I was looking at the processes in alchemy and to my surprise coagulation was'nt mentioned
however congelation was...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Alchemical_processes

Guess your word was more appropriate.

As to "is it likely?"

I am not very good with etymology or enigmas, but I would go with likely :)

Ghislain

Hehe, I would have thought you were a veritable enigma pro, being an alchemist! :p It turns out that Rudolf Otto has covered this topic extensively in The Idea of the Holy, a fantastic book!

Cheers, Otove