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Krisztian
07-13-2012, 02:04 AM
I was playing around with remote viewing during my Academia years - I guess it's the byproduct of boredom and maybe curiosity - namely, Dr. Schwartz's Remote Viewing Gold Standard Course (DVD). I didn't realize at that time that one of his sessions entitled "2050" was actually a project of sort.

To cut to the point, I was able to view myself in 2050, to my great surprise. I was also very surprised 'to see' how humanity was developing, I mean, I saw places, communities, etc., covered with large trees, people lived under protection, or should I say, houses were integrated into Mother Nature. The building was organic, it also had consciousness in-bedded in it's fabric. People seemed happy. I also saw very 'strange' technology (that I couldn't understand after the session was over, when the analytical side clicked on). They had a sort of a large chair with what seemed as a satellite-dish behind the head. It was I assume a telepathic phone. It reminded me of a Plate from Book of Lambspring, the king sitting on his throne. I guess you sit on it, and you can dialogue directly with family members in other towns, it amplifies and focusses you. Humanity was dispersed. Less people alive.

Then, I saw platforms protruding out of treetops. They were platforms for 'airbus' (that moves by different propulsion energy, I don't know). The top had clear glass, darkened; the shape was that of a clothing-iron. It moved effortlessly. . . . To my surprise, some 5 years later, I saw, I believe in Popular Science one similar to it, they had a specific issue on 'transportations of the future'. It was almost identical.

I had a very,very long beard! And I was puzzled by the geographical location? Not until some years later when I relocated to my new home, did I, to my great chuckle, realized as I was stepping off the plane, that the mountains I remote viewed years prior in 2050 was now stretching all around me!

Does anyone want to share similar experiences? With remote view? Or, without it? I'm all ears, now that I just realized how long this posting is.

Nibiru
07-13-2012, 02:27 PM
Very interesting story, thanks for sharing!! I too would like to hear of more experiences like this..

Krisztian
07-26-2012, 08:38 PM
I found another example of what I saw in 2050 in this article posted at, I believe, British DailyMail about solar panels out of 'glass-like' plastic:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2177763/Scientists-create-transparent-solar-panels-glass-like-plastic.html

The entire darkened 'glass' of the majestically-moving airbus could have been powered by solar panels. I wish I remembered the exact issue of Popular Science that depicted the airbus I saw. The other regret I have, maybe that word is too strong to describe my feeling, is that I didn't understand the 'technology' that I was observing.

Krisztian
07-26-2012, 08:46 PM
The other sense I got was, which I failed to mention in my first posting, that humanity has more 'time', I mean, leisure time, to explore other interests, hobbies, etc. People didn't work long hours to survive. Mostly it 'felt' like the theme was about playing. I was, again, very surprised! You must understand, back then, I was working under the corporate world, the social consciousness and it's heartbeat, in that particular area of the world, resting on industrialization.

Axismundi000
07-27-2012, 07:27 PM
It would be good I feel if some of the measures advocated by the Venus Project occur by 2050.

Satirical protest is a good approach to promote a better society.

e. g. fishing for cops in Montreal on May Day:

http://howthehellshouldiknow-wallyworld.blogspot.co.uk/2012/05/picture-of-day.html

The Canadian G8 meeting deserved some ribbing as global finance continues to promote damage to the world.

Andro
07-28-2012, 10:12 AM
Here is a sort of futuristic/technological/speculative (?) document, dealing with various possibilities/scenarios for the coming decades (by none other than the Rockefeller Foundation :))...

Read or download the PDF: Scenarios for the Future of Technology and International Development (http://www.rockefellerfoundation.org/uploads/files/bba493f7-cc97-4da3-add6-3deb007cc719.pdf).

Axismundi000
07-29-2012, 08:24 PM
Science and Technology can indeed help.

Pure capitalism however can consume faster then science can discover solutions at present.

All our theoretical currency systems and leverage need to be stripped out completely.

Krisztian
07-29-2012, 10:18 PM
Science and Technology can indeed help. Pure capitalism however can consume faster then science can discover solutions at present. All our theoretical currency systems and leverage need to be stripped out completely.

What will most likely happen is that in the near future (viz., 20 to 30 years) the energy issue will be addressed. Which means that people won't work for survival, or to pay for the basic necessity of life. Anything energy-related, Hydro, electricity, heating, etc. will cost next to nothing. Dr. Schwartz's 2050 Project, the respondents or, I should just say, 'viewers' consistently saw that reality.

The other major shift appears to be birth-rate decline, in Europe, and elsewhere. What I viewed - seemed there're 'less people around' - may reflect that particular reality outcome. OR, the Planet was hit by some major, catastrophic event (i.e., solar flares, asteroids, etc.)?

But the ultimate change must come from consciousness, I agree. Towards the spiritual, I mean.

Krisztian
09-01-2012, 05:58 PM
I was looking around today on the Internet, found an article that's entitled: Transparent plane of the future: Airbus reveals 2050 prediction. Please look here for photos and details:

http://www.cnngo.com/explorations/life/airbus-transparent-plane-of-future-146498

I find it rather amusing that this article would actually use that date of 2050. The "panoramic view" and bluish glass that's, yes, somewhat opaque is exactly what I saw when I remote viewed 2050. Except the shape of the airbus looks more like an ironing device (you know, heated tool to remove wrinkles from a fabric). It's also stockier. The top is completely covered with dark glass. No wings. No large rear spoiler, just a tiny protruding "handle" like the shape of an iron.

If anyone ever finds photos of such designs, please post it.

Axismundi000
09-01-2012, 11:36 PM
Whilst remote viewing has merit I have to say that the future is not fixed, it can be changed. We have to address the now rather then saying it will be OK because remote viewing shows the future in a certain way. Only the past is assured.

Krisztian
09-02-2012, 12:58 AM
Whilst remote viewing has merit I have to say that the future is not fixed, it can be changed. We have to address the now rather then saying it will be OK because remote viewing shows the future in a certain way. Only the past is assured.

I agree.

I also didn't say it'll be alright.

Krisztian
09-21-2012, 05:55 PM
I just returned from visiting (viz., vacationing) in my old neighborhood (almost the other side) across this vast landscape, of Canada. I thought, what I saw might relate this to specific Thread, 2050.

I wasn't aware how many houses now employ solar-panels. We [humanity] might be taking another direction, as slow as it may be? Is that the observation of other people? (Among some of these, it would seem the solar-panels might actually cost more than the house!)

Andro
09-21-2012, 06:18 PM
It would seem the solar-panels might actually cost more than the house!

Apparently, solar panels take more energy to manufacture than the energy they will produce in their entire life span. (unverified statement)

Personally I see them (along with wind turbines, bio-fuels, etc) as either inefficient trends to support some green globalist agenda OR (more like it) as a TRANSITIONAL phase towards a different kind of energy altogether.

By a different energy I am referring to something more Alchemical in nature, like the boundless energy that exists as pure potential even in vacuum, only needing to be manifested/tapped into.

Some people may refer to it as 'Zero Point Energy' - I don't know if they mean it in the way I do, but I am definitely not speaking about 'Overunity' or 'Permanent Magnetic Motors', but of something completely different.

A good example would be the ZPM (http://stargate.wikia.com/wiki/Zero_Point_Module) (Zero Point Module) from the TV show Stargate.

And still, even with this energy available, I seriously doubt technology will remain external for long.

And I don't mean cyber implants or other implanted devices - I mean being able to perform the feats of the MOST advanced technology WITHOUT technology, but rather by tapping into this energy ourselves, directly.

Krisztian
09-21-2012, 06:44 PM
I mean being able to perform the feats of the MOST advanced technology WITHOUT technology, but rather by tapping into this energy ourselves, directly.

You mean, direct conscious creation? The manifestation and alteration of energy by consciousness? Yes, no doubt that it is the most advanced technology as you say.

Thanks for posting. This topic itself is worth exploring.

Andro
09-21-2012, 06:55 PM
You mean, direct conscious creation? The manifestation and alteration of energy by consciousness?

Yes, this is what I mean :)

I definitely don't see a hi-tech/brave new world with sophisticated machines and external (implanted or not) technology on which humans are dependent.

Krisztian
09-21-2012, 09:18 PM
Yes, this is what I mean :)

That's absolutely right! I'm just a little surprised if I may say so to hear that from you Androgynus. In another Thread, I believe under the discussion about 'happiness' you seemed to have implied that one does not create. I guess I may have misunderstood your comment, which can easily happen on a Forum.

That's very much how I approach life.


I definitely don't see a hi-tech/brave new world with sophisticated machines and external (implanted or not) technology on which humans are dependent.

When I saw those technologies, there was a very strong sense that they amplified thought, I guess, one could say utilized the already latent creating mechanism. No implants. No 'technology' as we know it. The airbus was an extension of consciousness in a way, now that I think of it. Yes, there will always be some level of dependence as long as souls explore physicality, maybe less, maybe, in some instances, more.

The Ladder of dimensions are many-layered. Maybe a small 'break away' group will grow up in the manner you suggest. But please, take a look at humanity as they are: Do you seriously believe that people can create consciously? Most struggle daily just to live with their own feelings. But life doesn't end here or later, there's always another time, place, cycle, etc.

I'm glad this topic came up, I sort of erased it from bringing it up. I think it did come up once under that Thread regarding the Ramtha's School.

Happy to hear it.

Purplexity
09-22-2012, 07:04 AM
Whilst remote viewing has merit I have to say that the future is not fixed, it can be changed.

I have seen the future whilst remote viewing aswell.

Of course that said, the future is open to change and some humans would give anything to see the destruction of thousands of years of work up in ashes.
Have you seen the apocalypse?

Ghislain
09-22-2012, 01:01 PM
The Greek word Apocalypse means “uncovering”, “the revelation of a hidden meaning”...I believe
there will be an uncovering, but not the one chosen by Constantine and his ilk to create his Biblical
scare mongering.

It will be the realisation of potential, a coming together of mankind when they understand the
futility of working against one and other, when we stop slaving for the benefit of the few and return
the earth to the Eden that was meant for all.

The fire and brimstone rubbish that we are fed by those who wish to control will come to an end. It
just takes a few to realise and teach the rest.

We have to lead by example not fear...What Governments use to control the masses today are the
fear tactics: WMD, terrorism, fabricated reprisals etc...
Are we really that gullible today or have we evolved into thinking beings who can self govern?

It only takes a little common sense to self govern, but the unscrupulous amongst us know how easy
it is to instil the fear and undermine the self confidence of the masses by pointing out all that can go
wrong. These same people would never have been successful themselves if they believed their own
bullshit because they would also be cowering with the rest of society unable to function because of
the fear instilled by those that unscrupulously want to lead for their own benefit.

It is time to wake up...the apocalypse is near, the result of which is going to be dictated by the
mindset of the masses.

Dev Talks of “Anarchy”...that used to be a dirty word in my vocabulary until he defined it properly
for me.

There are many ways to look at anarchy:

One type of anarchy occurs when a revolution leaves a country in a temporary lawless state as in the
French revolution, pigeonholing anarchy into an action that creates a basic lack of certain rights which
most countries take for granted, there could be violence without reason, and the death toll may be
enormous.

In other countries anarchy has left the people looking for someone who will restore order and this can lead
to dictatorships.

Does it really have to be that way? Have we learnt nothing from these years of evolution? Doesn’t anyone
have faith in mankind to do the right thing? It means having faith in yourself first and believing in
others...hopefully this will be infectious.

Keep the governments, but send them a message, let them know we can think for ourselves and they are,
each, one of us and not above us.

A free world for all, it will be scary and it will be fun...as Peter Gabriel said, “Jeux sans frontiers”

And if one wishes to keep referring to biblical nonsense:

Matthew 16:18 “And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church;
and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.”

Wikipedia: Gabriel is an angel who typically serves as a messenger to humans from God. ;)

Just MHO


Whilst remote viewing has merit I have to say that the future is not fixed, it can be changed. We have to address the now rather then saying it will be OK because remote viewing shows the future in a certain way. Only the past is assured.

Hear hear!

Ghislain

Andro
09-22-2012, 01:43 PM
Keep the governments

Unacceptable. (see below)


It only takes a little common sense to self govern.

It may take just 'a little common sense', but a hell of a lot of impending NECESSITY, necessity as in: 'Enough is FUCKING enough ! ! !'

From Monroe Encounter (http://forum.alchemyforums.com/showthread.php?1418-Monroe-Encounter):


HeShe: "I can give you what you call a ROTE about that, about a plan that doesn't involve communism or socialism, capitalism or dictatorship."

Monroe: "They say it can't be done."

HeShe: "That is what makes it worth the effort. It needs a unified worldwide human endeavor. This will happen through recognized necessity, not through religions, race, or political beliefs, or force of arms."

Monroe: "Necessity is severe stuff. The world would have to be in rough shape."

HeShe: "That is the reason for waiting. The time will come."

Ghislain
09-22-2012, 05:01 PM
HeShe: "That is the reason for waiting. The time will come."

Wouldn't you say that time is now?

There is a necessity, I don't go for any religion, as for race...what exactly is that...we all bleed the same, politics is old hat,
how does one have beliefs in something that has never worked and force of arms is what we want to get away from.

Where's that ROTE? ;)

Let's test just how free we are!

Ghislain

Andro
09-22-2012, 05:29 PM
There IS a necessity, but apparently it is still below critical mass.

Not enough people feel it, too many people are still 'comfortable', even if their suffering is their comfort.

Otherwise, the 'time' would have already come.

'The Time Is Now' only applies on the individual level, to individuals who's time has come.

On a global scale, IMO it's more about reaching a degree of synchronization between all our different & diverse 'Nows', passing the macro-cosmic point of no return.
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How would you suggest to test how free we are?


Freedom's just another word for nothin' left to lose

I am almost starting to adhere to the concept of the above quoted line.... (from 'Me and Bobby McGee', a song co-written by Johnny Cash)

Krisztian
09-22-2012, 07:36 PM
I am almost starting to adhere to the concept of the above quoted line.... (from 'Me and Bobby McGee', a song co-written by Johnny Cash)

Yeah, good one.

Funny you mention Johnny Cash. Call it synchronicity. My girlfriend's colleague, also my friend, is the son of the former [lifelong] manager of Johnny Cash. The guy knows everything about Cash. Currently promoting - at some film festival - the low-budget movie they made.

Ghislain
09-23-2012, 12:02 PM
Yes I have to agree with you Androgynus, not everyone is in the right frame of mind yet...but perhaps that is all going to change in the near future.

Its just a feeling I have, look around, the chaos is happening and with chaos comes discomfort and with discomfort comes a need to change.

I live in hope :)

Ghislain

Purplexity
09-24-2012, 12:40 AM
The immediate future for us won't be that exciting as the testing is exclusive for new technology, the real interesting experiments that I know nothing off.

Just as 2012 is going to be a big let down to all the preppers, we can't say for sure that nothing out of the ordinary might happen, for instance the catestrophic oil crysis, Emp taking out whole citys electricity and chaos from the darkness.
Theres more said to happen but life will continue in the end, those in charge haven't come this far to let it all go to waste, they probably keep back up generators and enough food/water + seeds incase the end times were initiated by the masses.
The bible says it will be swift like night so perhaps what ever is happening is happening under our noses without or consent, what the nazi's did to the jews could have been considered end times for the jews.
Humans being treated like cockroaches, why would they treat us middle class any better as far as secret substances that make your life 100x better, you need to really stand out. They will continue giving us man made medicine but never the secret of immortality, though I heard in the golden age the secret of immortality will be revealed AND IT HAS.. I watched Neverland and Peterpan is an orphan in London who meets a philosopher who grew a city over 100 years who knows the secret to immortality, Which made me wonder why they would show children such things as if they are preparing for the future of children to become world leaders. It strange how they reveal and illuminate yet are very secret and dismissive. Contradicting sometimes. UGH the truth will set you free but I can't even get my head around the letter T in truth.

Ghislain
09-24-2012, 12:32 PM
I watched Neverland and Peterpan is an orphan in London who meets a philosopher

When James Barrie wrote Peter Pan I thought he left the source for Peter's eternal youth to the readers imagination.

I think Barrie was trying to tell us that magical things can happen if you just believe in them.


I can't even get my head around the letter T in truth.

Sometimes the truth can be somewhat imprisoning and to remedy this we can escape into the world of imagination.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYN0829cAXA&feature=player_embedded

Ghislain

http://www.walkaboutcrafts.com/freegifts/alphabetimages/t.gif :)

Krisztian
09-29-2012, 08:55 PM
BBC posted another one of those future predictions from their "expert panel" entitled: "The workplace of 2025 will be wherever you want it" found under http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-19639048. I know it's mainstream, forgive me. But I have a point for this Thread.

Dr. Schwartz's debriefing of what participants in the "2050 Project" remote viewed also mentions this aspect to the future. I'm not necessarily referring to the "ubiquitous computing" but more about how virtual reality conferencing (i.e., this Forum) mostly replaces need for business travel and creates "dispersed workforces". The result of which leads to people gravitating towards 'similarly minded' people in small communities. Which is another point viewed by the participants.

Krisztian
11-21-2012, 02:17 AM
In Popular Mechanics, I think the latest issue, December 2012, a rather novel 'prediction' was made relating to 'farming-fresh homes'. I rarely enjoy anything mainstream, but I took a second glance.

It very briefly discusses the future-projected concept that people will grow, sustainable homes using living, breathing trees coaxed together into one body. Later, the home can be transplanted wherever it needs to be.

In my remote view, I did see something akin to such concept, but it appeared that it was formed by consciousness. Or, that the consciousness inhabiting the living home had direct 'relationship' with the immunity, to the beingness of the home. I saw this organic, almost like a family member onto itself home, built into Mother Nature, housing people.

(As I read some of these magazines, they provide for me new ways in which to express what I saw. For, sometimes, I don't know how to communicate what I saw.)

III
11-21-2012, 03:51 AM
I've had a few confusing visions beyond my own life, not many and not all that clear, but that can always change suddenly. The problem of so many ordinary things at all times

I had an experience back about 1975, when I was married but some years before my children. I was riding a bike up a drivway and the garage door opened. I was on a "Desert Rose" girls bike with a pink banana seat. I got off and walked past an old brown station wagon I didn't recognize and up the steps into the kitchen, completely unfamilliar. Well about 20 years later we moved into a new house, and it all came together. The "old brown wagon" hadn't started old. The Desert Rose bike was ridden by my daughter and the kitchen was the kitchen in the new house, left-right reversed like a mirror or TLR.

So what is future and what is past is sometimes confusing and not recognizable. The ones in the future having low population and low tech but different than pioneer days. I have sort of a suggestion, still fuzzy, of some planetwide catastrophe that kills a lot of people. A lot have seen something like that. So who knows.

There was a thought exercise a group had maybe 15-20 years ago of figuring out how to preserve a physical "legacy" for ones descendents 500 years in the future, of information of certain types and other items in a time capsule that has to be put away for 500 years and then to meet the challange of communication to that time, to have it retrieved by your targeted group or reasonable standin.

Interesting challange then, how to preserve alchemical knowledge in an accessable way to survive a 500 year recovery back to civilization after a worldwide unstoppable catastrophe.

500 years of living with ordinary wars, fires, rats, mildew, eathquakes, floods, hurricanes and so on is tough on anything lasting. Who knows what else may be forthcoming but if tough on people tough on everything.

Andro
11-21-2012, 05:36 AM
How can we know if 'preserving our knowledge' is actually in the best interest of 'future' generations (if any)?

How can we know if doing so won't create a similar cycle?

Maybe, allowing complete UN-learning may be a preferred approach to allow for a genuine 'Fresh Start', in a 'Tabula Rasa' sort of way?

And why this need to 'preserve' anything, anyway? I never really figured out the reasoning (if any) behind this need to 'preserve'...
Can't this also be seen like a 'virus' trying to survive by freezing itself for 500 years, only to re-infect everything with its destructively interventionist programming, when it's 'safer' for it to do so?

And, for those who speak of love, how can we know if the highest form of love isn't in fact letting go of attempting to maintain any degree of control over new beginnings?

This 'preserving' - isn't it the same as what parents are doing to their offspring, only on a larger scale?
Wouldn't we be projecting our own perceived sense of achievement to a future which has NO NEED for it whatsoever?

Can't we just shut the fuck up, quietly enjoy our last meals and stop infecting every new chance we get with our 'good intentions'?

What if the highest form of love is allowing total annihilation?

Worst come to worst, we can always 'travel back in time' from All But One possible 'futures' and 'UN-preserve' the viral program, in the sense of trying to 'retroactively annihilate' the very dead-end frozen futures we are coming from... And what if this is what we've been doing all along, but we can't listen to our dead-end & frozen-loop 'future' selves, because we're too busy 'preserving' the very things that get us 'there' in the first place?
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This may all sound like a 'Devil's Advocate' point of view, but I feel it needed saying :)

Krisztian
11-21-2012, 08:03 PM
I had an experience back about 1975, when I was married but some years before my children. I was riding a bike up a drivway and the garage door opened. I was on a "Desert Rose" girls bike with a pink banana seat. I got off and walked past an old brown station wagon I didn't recognize and up the steps into the kitchen, completely unfamilliar. Well about 20 years later we moved into a new house, and it all came together. The "old brown wagon" hadn't started old. The Desert Rose bike was ridden by my daughter and the kitchen was the kitchen in the new house, left-right reversed like a mirror or TLR.

Thank you for your personal sharing, III.

Krisztian
11-21-2012, 08:45 PM
How can we know if 'preserving our knowledge' is actually in the best interest of 'future' generations (if any)? How can we know if doing so won't create a similar cycle? Maybe, allowing complete UN-learning may be a preferred approach to allow for a genuine 'Fresh Start', in a 'Tabula Rasa' sort of way?

All things you say Androgynus is valid, I often also contemplated 'the whys'.

Please let me also add another aspect to this discussion. From a perspective strictly derived from mysterious and secretive patrons of the Royal Art of alchemy; but also I found references made by Fr. Albertus in his Alchemist's Handbook to the true purpose of why alchemy has existed. Why it has like a swirling, wise serpent underneath the tall grass of a field made it's way in and out of history?

I quote Fr. Albertus: ". . . those who had attained perfect health and financial independence from the world were given a new set of instructions to study and practice in some sequestered spot. There they would probably attain to the highest degree of psychic development and adepthood (p.69).

Their, the task was, for the alchemists' who perfected the Stone, to be the 'guides', to preserve knowledge, from the Old to the New World, from one cycle to the next! The Stone, it's true purpose, is to aid - simply - the longevity of the physical vehicle long enough to complete the task-at-hand. It wasn't for vanity. The backbone of secret societies have held such preserved knowledge; thankful of some handful of Adepts who undertook the divine task. The 'Royal' line must be preserved for future generations. It is difficult to 'bring in' such knowledge otherwise; the Gate is guarded well, references I make to TABLET XV., The Emerald Tablets of Thoth.

Andro
11-21-2012, 09:29 PM
All things you say Androgynus is valid, I often also contemplated 'the whys'.

Indeed Krisztian, it sure is a 'Why' or a 'What If' for me. Definitely not an opinion set in stone.

These are just questions I am asking myself - whether we could possibly do more 'damage' than 'good' by trying to 'preserve' Knowledge between cycles...

I guess my internal debate about this can be summarized by this short dialog from the TV show Lost (forum.alchemyforums.com/showthread.php?2065-Lost), between Jakob and his nameless brother:


Nameless: They come, they fight, they destroy, they corrupt. It always ends the same.

Jacob: It only ends once. Anything that happens before that is just progress.

Hmm...

solomon levi
11-21-2012, 10:18 PM
What I have seen of the Mystery is that preservation is the alchemical side.
From the perspective of three choices/gunas, etc, preservation is many people's
ideal as opposed to constant birth/creation or constant destruction.
Yesterday, I was "imagining" a conversation with Ouspensky, and "he" told
me that the Philosophers' stone is perpetual youth. Isn't that most people's
dream? I'm not saying it's right. There's pros to childhood and old age for sure.
But if you could have the wisdom of old age with the youth of 20's or 30's,
wouldn't that be ideal? Most people seem to think so - enough to have created
these schools of alchemists and what-not.
Thus Vishnu, the preserver, the fish, mercury, etc...
If not on a physical level, then schools want to preserve awareness after/beyond death.

Preservation is alchemy's general goal. Isn't it?
Of course, Androgynus may not be the person to ask this. :)
I understand your views are different.

Krisztian
11-21-2012, 11:51 PM
Indeed Krisztian, it sure is a 'Why' or a 'What If' for me. Definitely not an opinion set in stone.

These are just questions I am asking myself - whether we could possibly do more 'damage' than 'good' by trying to 'preserve' Knowledge between cycles.

Yes, I hear you. Thanks for adding to this discussion.

Krisztian
01-15-2013, 09:21 PM
I debated whether to post and continue to evolve this Thread because my experience was so personal! I keep seeing in various sectors reminders of what I saw in 2050; or what one would call the 'seeds of tomorrow'.

Today I saw this article, yes, again from BBC, that showed this photo of the side of a building: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-20965207 That photo very much reminded me of what I also viewed. I actually worked in a building not unlike what this photo shows. It's almost identical. (A technology that mirrors consciousness, it's current state, moment to moment, and morphs the living environment for complementary purposes was very much the name of the game in 2050.)

Feel free to comment.

Nibiru
01-15-2013, 10:33 PM
(A technology that mirrors consciousness, it's current state, moment to moment, and morphs the living environment for complementary purposes was very much the name of the game in 2050.)

Feel free to comment.

From what I've been experiencing lately (real or imagined) I would say that I feel this technology may already exist. It's hard for me to determine if this is something new, or if I'm just now waking up to what has always been, or if I'm just loosing my mind completely. It's also difficult to understand, if it does exist, if it is an exterior or interior technology. Though I have a gut feeling that the technology you mentioned may be our own consciousness's ability to manifest outwardly into 'reality'. The more in-tune the individual and collective consciousness is with itself, the more efficiently the 'technology' is able to mirror the dream back upon itself. The mirror should also have the ability to effect the evolution of the individual as well as the collective through it's ability to reflect directly the actions and thoughts(to an extent) back to the transmitters. Instant karma so to speak. If any of what I'm saying is true then perhaps some of us are already experiencing 'reality' on the 2050 timeline. As I said before I've been experiencing a lot of psychological changes lately, so please take what I say with a grain of salt.

Krisztian
01-16-2013, 01:36 AM
If any of what I'm saying is true then perhaps some of us are already experiencing 'reality' on the 2050 timeline.

What you say makes a great deal of sense Nibiru. Some consciousness, maybe not collectively, on this Earth may already be in another "timeline" experiencing the abundance of realities unfolding from, say, 2050. It was very clear that the significance of consciousness and it's role in reality forming was much better understood, integrated then [2050] in the collective. It was part of life, and the difference between consciousness and "technology" seemed rather minuscule, if any. No difference between organic and inorganic. It's all mind, matter substance is.


As I said before I've been experiencing a lot of psychological changes lately, so please take what I say with a grain of salt.

I know what you mean.

Ghislain
01-16-2013, 02:03 AM
By 2050 offices will probably look like this.

http://genius.toucansurf.com/car%20office.jpg

Maybe with more electric cars \o/

Ghislain

Krisztian
01-16-2013, 02:15 AM
In certain cities offices already look like that, Ghislain. That must be a reference for a taxi depot, no?

Good to have your British humour on board.

Ghislain
01-16-2013, 10:24 AM
Krisztian

Imagine there are many dimensions existing all at the same time. What places us into a specific dimension
could be the choices we make. Therefore maybe what you see in 2050 may be a glimpse of the result of the
choices you will make up to that time.

Another person could travel a completely different path and have a completely different 2050.

Could it be that we are all Solipsists living in our own created dimension?

http://genius.toucansurf.com/Choice%20Dimensions.jpg

From birth we start making choices, even if some are involuntary. Each black node is where we choose from
a multitude of options available to us. I'm not sure if any babies are born smiling :) I just included that for an
example. Each spur is a different reality existing right now due to the choice made and the "we" that we
perceive right now are the result of only one path.

From there on our perception is coloured by the choices we make and the choices we make are in a constant
loop with the perceptions we have from the result of such choices.

I placed three outcomes in the example above, but one has to realise there is no permanence, everything is
transitory and by simply making a different choice one can shift from one dimension into another at any time
one wishes to unless ones perception doesn't allow one to realise this.

I misspelled "Dimension" in the above image, but rather than correct it, which is what I would normally do,
I placed the correction under it...My point here is that was my choice and had I not corrected it then I may
have moved onto a different path...or maybe not, depending on my perception :confused:

In the above scenario this means that if you perceive someone as sad/happy/angry etc... that is the way they
are in your dimension; that same person may be in utopia in their dimension.

Thus 2050 may be where you find your utopia but others may be in that frame right now...whereas
in 2050 they may be in misery.

I'm not sure if I am entirely comfortable with what I wrote there, but it is a point for discussion.

Ghislain

Ghislain
01-16-2013, 10:43 AM
Just another fleeting thought...

Maybe there are just a few sharing each dimension...everyone else is a result of their choices.

If this was the case I wonder how you would recognise the current occupants.

Sorry if this is swinging off topic, but it is what your post inspired in me.

Ghislain

Krisztian
01-16-2013, 03:19 PM
I'm not sure if I am entirely comfortable with what I wrote there, but it is a point for discussion.

I think this is a great discussion Ghislain, the multi-lifelines are intriguing and propose a sense of freedom, of choice-making.

On a personal level, I do not care as much about the future; this Thread evolved out of that viewing experience I had especially during that period when the collective (i.e., Mainstream media, society, people in general, etc.) were presenting a rather gloomy, often catastrophic and fearful picture of the "future". Then I see what I see, it's quite different. And before I know it, I find out that other, shall I say, thousands of "participants" of the 2050 Project also saw almost identical futures.

I figured that's worth mentioning.

Krisztian
01-16-2013, 03:26 PM
Maybe there are just a few sharing each dimension...everyone else is a result of their choices.

Yes, maybe someone was here, I mean, this dimension of reality, before we got here, on [Earth]? And created what we unquestionably except as animals, trees, etc. "They" created all details, manufactured the suit for [humanoid] consciousness, and were the true frontier explorers?

Awani
01-18-2013, 08:21 PM
The gloomy negative outlook you mention is, from my own experience, self-inflicted. When I began to have a positive outlook things became better. Law of attraction is certainly true in my case. Media (TV, news etc), paranoia, conspiracies etc are NOT healthy and will only turn your hair grey. Ignore it. To be aware is fine but don't waste your energy.

If we imagine utopia so shall it be.

:cool:

Krisztian
01-18-2013, 09:03 PM
The gloomy negative outlook you mention is, from my own experience, self-inflicted. When I began to have a positive outlook things became better. Law of attraction is certainly true in my case. Media (TV, news etc), paranoia, conspiracies etc are NOT healthy and will only turn your hair grey. Ignore it. To be aware is fine but don't waste your energy. If we imagine utopia so shall it be.

No disagreements on that.

Krisztian
03-26-2013, 02:20 PM
. . . I saw platforms protruding out of treetops. They were platforms for 'airbus' (that moves by different propulsion energy, I don't know). The top had clear glass, darkened; the shape was that of a clothing-iron. It moved effortlessly.

Recently BBC wrote an article under their heading of 'technology' that can be found here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-21925123 I've heard of this possibility before, namely, that bacteria could be harnessed for it's internal, natural energy. Sort of like a modernday battery.

I also enjoyed reflecting upon this possibility that whatever maybe seen as 'bad' and useless today, may some day be regarded as helpful and as part of our technologies. Here they speak about battery for cellular phones.

The other point worth mentioning is, that the same way our physical bodies need bacteria for digestion, some day, the belly of a space craft may also hold bacteria for it's livelihood, and energy. When I saw this 'airbus' in my remote view, the technology was organic, fluid-like, so I was quite reluctant to call it 'technology' for some years thereafter, the concept, was somehow misleading in modern context of that word.

Krisztian
05-10-2013, 02:23 PM
Please allow me to say that this is not in any way appealing to me, what's presented here, Itskov's plan for "immortality by 2045". But figured that it relates, to some degree, to this Thread.

Link found here: http://motherboard.vice.com/blog/russian-billionaire-dmitry-itskov-plans-on-becoming-immortal-by-2045

Hoping that others will give their reflection and opinions on the matter?

Krisztian
06-12-2013, 10:31 PM
So when I found this article today, this was similar to the buildings I saw, where they seemed to have been 'alive'. The fabric wasn't the way we know buildings to be today.

Link here: http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20130610-buildings-that-breathe-and-think

Instead of air purifiers and other HEPA filters and technologies of sort inside rooms; the entire building being like a giant lung, cleaning the atmosphere.

III
06-15-2013, 01:03 AM
I think this is a great discussion Ghislain, the multi-lifelines are intriguing and propose a sense of freedom, of choice-making.

On a personal level, I do not care as much about the future; this Thread evolved out of that viewing experience I had especially during that period when the collective (i.e., Mainstream media, society, people in general, etc.) were presenting a rather gloomy, often catastrophic and fearful picture of the "future". Then I see what I see, it's quite different. And before I know it, I find out that other, shall I say, thousands of "participants" of the 2050 Project also saw almost identical futures.

I figured that's worth mentioning.

Hi Krisztian,

the multi-lifelines are intriguing and propose a sense of freedom, of choice-making.

Multiple dimensions. Multi-lifelines that can be shifted amongst as one learns, that are lived over and over GROUNDHOG DAY style each one different in ways responsive to what the one living chooses to do. However, the "chooses" isn't in the typical egotistical version of that. Ego choices always seem to backfire over and over. It isn't just a matter of deciding a choice, it's applying the choice to changing the being in such a way as to live the preferred, or at least different, variation of life. It's not precise like saying "I want a grandmother that has us up to her summer house on the lake each summer". Instead it's more like "I want to think more clearly so that I make better choices".That is the tricky part; recognizing what to change and how to change it. Choose wisely. Things work best if the choices are made, actions taken for undertaking the spiritual work.

When one enters the work the nature of karma, like everything else, changes, or at least shows a different face, a challenge, a problem to be solved by purifying ones self. Also it accelerates as you succeed. As ones understanding and knowing increases the meaning of everything changes so it is NEVER what one expects. It is a most intriguing "game" and one becomes free as the knowing and understanding increases. Let me define "free". "Free" is being to able to depart this life without involuntary rebirth. It doesn't mean one can't take voluntary rebirth. BE IN LOVE.

III
06-15-2013, 01:21 AM
In considering the question "should" the knowledge continue into the future I would ask "How is it going to be stopped?" Of course it filters out all but the successful Alchemists, Yogis, Sufis etc I would imagine. Shaw, In THE SUFIS claims that there are always thousands of "natural Sufis" walking around in the world. I took some refresher courses as it were, in this life to pick up some current language but I already know the basics and had started remembering them in 3rd grade and "practicing" by 7th grade. There is no "should" or "should not" to forward transfer of alchemical knowledge. Those who succeed carry their information forward themselves. BE IN LOVE

Krisztian
10-05-2013, 11:02 PM
. . . the future is not fixed, it can be changed. We have to address the now rather then saying it will be OK because remote viewing shows the future in a certain way. . .

Something along the lines of what was said here in the above, New Scientist recently posted one of their analysis of four possible future environmental outcomes, http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg22029372.700-earth-2100-ad-four-futures-of-environment-and-society.html#.UlAthyy9KSP projected date 2100.

I'm aware that if you ask one expert he'll say our planet is warming, and another, that we're entering a mini ice age. But figured, article somewhat fits this Thread.

Krisztian
02-25-2014, 06:09 PM
This particular Thread hasn't been active for a little while. Found this assertion by David Levy of University of Maastricht saying, that by the year of 2050, humans will have sex with artificial intelligences.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/2007/10/15/forecast-sex-and-marriage-with-robots-by-2050/

Strange?

Normal?

Why not?

III
02-25-2014, 10:42 PM
This particular Thread hasn't been active for a little while. Found this assertion by David Levy of University of Maastricht saying, that by the year of 2050, humans will have sex with artificial intelligences.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/2007/10/15/forecast-sex-and-marriage-with-robots-by-2050/

Strange?

Normal?

Why not?


An eight year old Fox sex toys of the future story. Marriage with a sex toy seems like a corruption of marriage. I know that in marriage is a hot issue right now, but I there is a big difference between offering another human the perks of being a married human, such as tax benefits and offering that to a sex toy, even an AI sex toy.


Now lets get to the heart of it. What is SEX about. My view may be different because of my view of sex as a spiritual practice, that the importance comes from being in a spiritual rapport with another human who has had to be able to rid themselves from fears of perceiving the self and the other person.


I can't picture going into spiritual metaphysical rapport with a sex toy. If one reduces sex to the purely physical then some who are happy with the purely physical might find it enjoyable. But again to "marry" a TOY seems bizarre. If one is into joined and shared metaphysical experience as part of sex then I don't see how any toy can serve the purpose. A toy has no attached lineage. A toy isn't a metaphysical being, whether simulating intelligence or not.