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Ilos
08-27-2012, 04:18 PM
Hey,
Recently I have been looking through youtube about distillation and I found a video about the distillation of wine, the person was using an apparatus that looked exactly like a coffee maker so I wanted to show it to you guys and to see what everyone here thinks about it. Id it worth it for spagyrics tinctures or not??
Heres the picture of the distiller:
http://www.kliva.com/assets/cache/images/36f068233bf147a4c5113cde5f9ab962.jpg
Heres the video of the distilling of the wine:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fushfqr905A
Thank you

Goldlion973
08-27-2012, 06:13 PM
Nah... you can go one step up and get yourself a TURBO 500 Still, basically an automatic distillation unit regulated temperature using the flow of water input into it. Check it out on youtube, am new here still (pun!) trying to figure things out.

Peace
GL

Illen A. Cluf
08-27-2012, 10:49 PM
Hey,
Recently I have been looking through youtube about distillation and I found a video about the distillation of wine, the person was using an apparatus that looked exactly like a coffee maker so I wanted to show it to you guys and to see what everyone here thinks about it. Id it worth it for spagyrics tinctures or not??
Heres the picture of the distiller:

Heres the video of the distilling of the wine:

Thank you

A friend of mine has one and it works very well and fast. Rather than wine, he uses sugar added to water and a turbo yeast. This initially brings the fermented sugar water to close to 20%. Then he uses this same device and distills it a total of 3 times, ending with a percentage of about 80-90%.

The trick is optimizing it. You can start out with a very high alcohol level if you only collect a small amount The % alcohol that comes out obviously decreases over time, so if you collect too much the overall % will be low. You can graph the results and determine the optimal amount to collect, or you can collect it in several containers of decreasing percentage, depending on what you wish to use it for.

The device is hands free. Just turn it on and go and do something else while it does the work for you. Just keep track of the time and shut it off when you have the optimal or desired percentage.

I believe my friend checked the percentage coming out by filling a thin 200 ml cylinder in which he floated one of those hydrometers that measure alcohol content. He would stop when it reached about 15%. Then he would re-distill a couple of times.

thoth
08-27-2012, 11:31 PM
Hi I use a water distiller to concentrate wine alcohol. I bought it years before I got into practical alchemy. Although it has set temp for 100c, I just take the distilled alcohol in say 100ml jars. The first one have strongest conc, probably before temp hits 100c. I do a few runs and collect all the weaker concentrations and do one run with them.

It saves having to use running water distillation but you do have to keep an eye on it. I would use standard lab distil eat when I have say > than 80% concentration

Goldlion973
09-11-2012, 09:25 AM
Was told my a distributor that the airstills aren't the best for distilling alcohol content, they won't distill it all, if you're to really go at it:


http://www.autodeist.com/system/files/blog_still.jpg

Is best... works to 95% and suffers none of the annoying water flow - temperature issues a glassware set up will tend to cause, it uses the flow of water to set the temperature so you adjust a flow controller minutely in order to set the temp on the digital reader, once thats set you can go and do your thing while waiting for it to extract the alcohol on its own... six liter capacity, not much but the same company (also makes the air still) sell a larger still at 25L the Super Reflux Still...



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Y6bVOaIxl4

As said, the same company makes the air still... although it looks like other versions are available in the US....

http://www.stillsmart.co.uk/forum/index.php

Ezalor
09-11-2012, 03:07 PM
maybe these give you some ideas:

Hungarian distiller used to make the traditional strong drink "pálinka":
http://www.palinka-fozes.hu/shop/palinkafozo.jpghttp://pctrs.network.hu/clubpicture/5/4/2/_/asztali_palinkafozo_542395_88387_n.jpg
It is a pretty simple device as you can see.

And this is how people without a distiller made pálinka, using only things you find in the kitchen:
http://www.vasiszemle.t-online.hu/2008/06/palinkafozo.jpg
The base goes into the bottom. The bowl on the top is filled with cold water. The condensatum simply flows down on the bowl and drops down into the smaller bowl inside. :) Once again, pretty simple! And it is even pressure regulated, as the overpressure can come out under the top bowl.

Just don't forget, if you want to make your own alcohol from scratch, that depending on what you distill, it may contain POISONOUS substances such as Methanol. This is why for example, during pálinka distilling one must be very careful to separate these through the repeated distillations. From time to time there is someone dying from incorrectly distilled spirit, because they lack this knowledge.
But increasing percentage of already pure alcohol is of course safe in this regard.