View Full Version : Plants can talk to each other

11-14-2012, 01:29 AM
Scientists found that the roots of young plants emitted and reacted to particular sounds. They established that young roots of corn made regular clicking sounds...

Read the article (its not long): http://www.australiangeographic.com.au/journal/plants-can-talk-to-each-other.htm

I know they are talking all the time naturally;), but always nice when science catches up to what most of us know already. LOL!

Related thread: Intelligence in nature and our relationship to plants (http://forum.alchemyforums.com/showthread.php?2977-Intelligence-in-nature-and-our-relationship-to-plants)


Bel Matina
11-15-2012, 04:28 AM
That plants exhibit complex coordinated behaviors is nothing new to science. It's pretty obvious to anyone who looks very closely at a forest (or any other large community of plants). People don't talk about it for the same reason that everybody knows about factory farms but most people act like they don't. You don't want to think about how your food feels. Neural networks function by their inherent tendency to model systems with which they interact. The math behind this is fairly complex and I don't have it all at hand at the moment. If the network has output it will develop feedback, turning the network and its interface into a double image with a mutual tendency toward increasing isomorphism - that is, both images will change to resemble each other. Thus disarticulated rat brain cells smeared onto a microchip can learn to interact with it, seeking a state of minimal activation by internalizing its informatic topography and regulating it. The really crazy part is the mathematical definition of a neural network that accounts for all this was originally developed not to model neurons, but rather to model metallic ions with an aim toward aligning the direction of magnetic polarity within an alloy (thus reducing empty space and making it stronger), and this math holds for any set of particles that hold a magnetic charge (hint: all of them). While with what we know of the informatic content of our own brains this accounts pretty nicely for the scope of our experiences, it gives no account of which (if any) images should not have someone experiencing them. As an aside, this makes it pretty much impossible for me to eat anything, even if there were something I could eat that had never been 'alive', without feeling like I'm hurting someone.

Recently I opened an avocado with my son, and we decided to grow it as his pet. For those that don't know, you can grow an avocado for a child by sticking toothpicks in it at an angle, so that it will hang suspended in a glass, by which means you can cover it half and only half with water. It has plenty of food until it sprouts, but it needs water, it needs to breathe, and of course it needs light (it won't photosynthesize until it's grown a leaf or two, but it will respond to the presence of all three things by sprouting). When I speared it with the toothpick, he asked me, "does it hurt?", and I had to answer honestly, "I don't know." I know it has a similar network to the one through which we feel pain, which processes much of the same kind of information, but no matter where you cut the universe each part has that same thing. Do they each have a soul?

I suppose the hermetic answer would be either that they do, or that it doesn't matter.

So yes, plants talk.

01-26-2013, 01:17 AM
Everything has a soul probably, but only humans think in terms of morals and good/bad. We are too stupid to see things without such philosophical concepts, although I try my hardest.


Bel Matina
01-26-2013, 12:42 PM
I have good reason to believe it's not just humans, but by the same token I have good reason to agree with you that more living things don't!

To be sure, good and bad are arbitrary assignations with inherently poor fit to the majority of potential experiences. Certainly it's lamentable how prone we creatures are to such distortions, but to my understanding the very promise of the art is that we may be founded directly on what must and may be; that we may 'clear our eyes' so to speak.

02-14-2013, 12:12 AM

02-14-2013, 01:18 AM

Thank you so very much for the link - ive heard this music when i connect and talk to them telepathically. This just solidifies what ive experienced. Much appreciated. :)


10-31-2013, 11:16 PM
Some amazing images in this video, especially how the roots are growing like worms moving...


It makes Dahl's short story The Sound Machine (http://labs.ciid.dk/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/roaldDahl_SoundBox.pdf) not a sci-fi story but a sci-fact story.


11-01-2013, 05:06 PM
Great video! Thanks for sharing!

Been wondering lately about accelerating plant growth...

11-24-2013, 02:24 AM
Trees Communicate With One Another, Connected by Fungi (Video) (http://www.bbncommunity.com/trees-communicate-one-another-connected-fungi-video/)