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Kiorionis
04-10-2013, 09:19 PM
The Trimsamsa divisional chart in jyotish astrology shows the difficulties and impediments in life, but what interests me most about this divisional chart is how each planet represents one of the five elements and the qualities associated with the "natural forces engaged in concretizing the ideational principle."
If my notation is confusing I will be happy to clarify :)

Firstly, how the zodiac is divided:

Odd Signs
Aries (1st zodiac sign), Gemini (3rd), Leo (5th), Libra (etc.), Sagittarius, and Aquarius

Even Signs
Taurus, Cancer, Virgo, Scorpio, Capricorn, and Pisces.


Second, how each individual sign is divided:

Odd Signs
First Division -- First 5 degrees ruled by Mars -- (0.0 - 5.0)
Second -- 5 degrees ruled by Saturn -- (5.0 - 10.0)
Third -- 8 degrees ruled by Jupiter -- (10.0 - 18.0)
Fourth -- 7 degrees ruled by Mercury -- (18.0 - 25.0)
Fifth -- 5 degrees ruled by Venus -- (25.0 - 30.0)

Even Signs
First Division -- 5 degrees ruled by Venus -- (0.0 - 5.0)
Second -- 7 degrees ruled by Mercury -- (5.0 - 12.0)
Third -- 8 degrees ruled by Jupiter -- (12.0 - 20.0)
Fourth -- 5 degrees ruled by Saturn -- (20.0 - 25.0)
Fifth -- First 5 degrees ruled by Mars -- (25.0 - 30.0)

Third, ruling planet's elemental correspondence:

Mercury -- the solid state or Earth element
Venus -- the liquid state or Water element
Mars -- the energy state or Fire element
Saturn -- the gaseous state or Air element
Jupiter -- the vacuum or space or Ether element (or some other definition of the '5th Element')


Fourthy, today's chart (the planets which apply):

Wednesday, April 10 at 15:1; 045.40W/111.02N
Ascendent, Leo.
Nakshatra, Asvini.

Mercury, 1.31 Pisces
Venus, 0.35 Aries
Mars, 28.46 Pisces
Saturn, 15.40 Libra
Jupiter, 19.27 Taurus.


The qualities of the elements, determined from the charts above:

Mercury: Water
Venus: Fire
Mars: Fire
Saturn: Ether
Jupiter: Ether

note: Sun and moon are not used in this division, neither are the nodes of the moon.

Kiorionis
04-10-2013, 09:36 PM
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Wednesday, April 10 at 15:1; 045.40W/111.02N

Kiorionis
04-10-2013, 09:45 PM
Determined from the chart:
Fire (Energy) tinged with Aries and Pisces
Water tinged with Pisces
Ether tinged with Libra and Taurus.

The significance of this?
I don't know. I'm still working that part out.
But I'm sure it relates to alchemy somehow.

Any and all thoughts and ideas on how it all relates are welcomed.

edit: keep in mind this division is to show "the difficulties and impediments in life"

Points I'm contemplating:
What difficulties might arise through the relation of the elements and the ascending energy of Leo (or any ascendent)?
What influence does the Spiritual Triangle (the first, fifth and ninth houses -- in the above chart Leo, Sagittarius and Aries -- all 'Fire' signs) have on this relation?
What about the Triangle of Materiality? (the third, seventh and eleventh houses -- Libra, Aquarius and Gemini)

solomon levi
04-11-2013, 06:51 AM
so does a sign, by being odd or even, have an energy?
do the planets have any, or their usual, associations besides elements?
is there logic behind the extra degrees given to mercury and jupiter?

Kiorionis
04-11-2013, 02:24 PM
so does a sign, by being odd or even, have an energy?
Yes, the energy from a zodiac sign is determined by the quality of radiation. Classically these are one of the four elements, but the influence of individual stars and the influence of the nakshatras and presiding deities/consciousnesses found in the stars become more apparent with each division.

But the 'odd' and 'even' designation of this divisional chart is simply the order of the zodiac. Aries being the first sign and representing the head and is thus number one. 'one' is an odd number and not meant to imply a negative polarity. I would say Aries is an active Fire sign. (the sun moves into aries here pretty soon too, and we'll be getting much activity and fire from it :) )



do the planets have any, or their usual, associations besides elements?
Of course. But with my understanding this division highlights their elemental nature more-so than other divisions. Ultimately, all divisions are scrutinized to determine the quality of a planet in a chart. I am just interested in this one at the moment.


is there logic behind the extra degrees given to mercury and jupiter?
This I don't know. To be honest I've never questioned it, just took it for granted. If I find anything in my future researches I'll be sure to post about it.