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LostGnosticOccultum
04-21-2013, 07:16 PM
Last Tuesday Seth-Ra and I went to the larger city near where we live, we went to an organic foods market and looked around. We happened upon some Saffron and did a little research there in the market before we purchased it.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8399/8668532733_57aa4eb4f2_m.jpg
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When we got back we prepared an extract using 80proof vodka.
:cool:
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8106/8658725394_885ffcdc2e.jpg

I've been dosing myself once daily since then by mixing it with pure orange juice. It's nearly unbearable without being mixed with something else; but the flavors of orange juice and the saffron extract complement themselves so well that I will dub it my favorite drink.

Since the first dose I have noticed a drastic increase in energy both physicaly and etherealy.
I feel healthier, my usual joint and back pains are practically nonexistent. The first 3 days I coughed up ALL the phlegm in my lungs and can breath MUCH better.
Even my digestive system has been regulated better. I don't get headaches and can see and hear better.

I will continue dosing myself and will be doing some more experiments with it and will post more.
If anyone here has some experiments with saffron they''ve tried please share or experiments that you all would like me to try.

GOD Bless, LGO

Krisztian
04-21-2013, 07:51 PM
When we got back we prepared an extract using 80proof vodka.

This is a rather good coincident, you see, just last night I was looking at this saffron in a local organic store to purchase. I usually get this force of an 'unseen hand' bringing to my attention what I need to explore and do in the lab. It has this unforgettable feeling about it.

I'll go back either today or this week, and also extract it. Maybe use 190 Proof alcohol.


I will continue dosing myself and will be doing some more experiments with it and will post more. If anyone here has some experiments with saffron they've tried please share or experiments that you all would like me to try.

Yes, I would also be appreciative.

Thank you.

True Initiate
04-21-2013, 08:34 PM
Great work brother, i will replicate your experiment tonight! I worked last year on Elixir Proprietatis prepared from Myrrhe, Aloe and Saffron.
http://forum.alchemyforums.com/showthread.php?2874-Power-of-Frankincense-Myrhhe-and-other-resins

It had a nasty bitter taste in the end because i used Aloe Gum which is very bitter and Ethyl Ether as solvent which adds even more unpleasant taste and smell to the extract even after you destill the solvent from the matter.
One question though, did you destill or at least reduced the quantity of your solvent after extraction or did you just mix it as it is with orange juice?

True Initiate
04-21-2013, 08:35 PM
Ok, here are the starting ingredients!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XxnfJscru0

powdering the Saffron for better extraction
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15zl3GkMqh8

Adding the solvent
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4_T_Eg5WPk

I used about 3 grams of Saffron for this experiment and the mixture turned blood red almost instantly! I am wondering how long should i let it stand to get a good extract?

Krisztian
04-21-2013, 09:58 PM
Came back moments ago, will also undertake this experiment. Saffron ruled under Sun/Leo, so what better time than today Sunday to start.

Found 2 grams of saffron from Spain.

LostGnosticOccultum
04-21-2013, 11:00 PM
This is a rather good coincident, you see, just last night I was looking at this saffron in a local organic store to purchase. I usually get this force of an 'unseen hand' bringing to my attention what I need to explore and do in the lab. It has this unforgettable feeling about it.

I read somewhere that Just the phonetics of the word Saffron resonates with the human soul and draws them to it (although the research Seth-Ra and I conducted helped us make up our minds on getting some I was already drawn to it by the simple knowledge that it was within my presence.)


I'll go back either today or this week, and also extract it. Maybe use 190 Proof alcohol.

Yeah I wanted to use a higher alcohol content but we had 80 Proof on hand so we used that haha



Yes, I would also be appreciative.

Thank you.

No Problem :cool:


Great work brother, i will replicate your experiment tonight!

Thanks! I look forward to hearing how it affects you as well :)


I worked last year on Elixir Proprietatis prepared from Myrrhe, Aloe and Saffron.
http://forum.alchemyforums.com/showthread.php?2874-Power-of-Frankincense-Myrhhe-and-other-resins

I will check out your thread and the youtube links in just a moment :)


It had a nasty bitter taste in the end because i used Aloe Gum which is very bitter and Ethyl Ether as solvent which adds even more unpleasant taste and smell to the extract even after you destill the solvent from the matter.

I don't particularly care for the flavor of alcohol and I believe this is why it tasted unpleasant to me haha


One question though, did you destill or at least reduced the quantity of your solvent after extraction or did you just mix it as it is with orange juice?

I let the Saffron Extract heat with a single tea-light candle for 4-5 hours (while I slept, those candles usually burn out within that time period) that's all I did haha :cool:


Came back moments ago, will also undertake this experiment. Saffron ruled under Sun/Leo, so what better time than today Sunday to start.

Saffron is concidered the "Gold" of the plant kingdom by the old herbal alchemists (its price can verify that also :p $510.63 USD/OZ. quite expensive haha) and oranges are of a solar influence also which makes it a great complement because I'm getting the pure solar influence from the liquid :)

It has been revered as the "Flower of Life" for around some 50000 years.
Tuesday I'm going to get more to work with and will see about getting some higher concentration of alcohol also :)

I Look forward to our digital collaboration on this and hope you all the best of luck with it.

GOD Bless, LGO

Kiorionis
04-21-2013, 11:14 PM
Saffron is concidered the "Gold" of the plant kingdom by the old herbal alchemists (its price can verify that also :p $510.63 USD/OZ. quite expensive haha) and oranges are of a solar influence also which makes it a great complement because I'm getting the pure solar influence from the liquid :)

It has been revered as the "Flower of Life" for around some 50000 years.
Tuesday I'm going to get more to work with and will see about getting some higher concentration of alcohol also :)


Good thing you don't need much for it to tinge well!
I'm curious to know if it will have an effect on your dreaming -- like lucid dreams, more vivid colors, etc.

True Initiate
04-21-2013, 11:38 PM
That's a God's gift to us a single Saffron filament can color a glass of water Golden yellow.

LostGnosticOccultum
04-22-2013, 12:53 AM
Good thing you don't need much for it to tinge well!
I'm curious to know if it will have an effect on your dreaming -- like lucid dreams, more vivid colors, etc.

Actually it does seem to make my dreams more vivid but i haven't had a lucid dream with it. Its odd because I recently used some mugwort and it actually made me sleep more soundly with no dreams but this is very good for me as to make me dream vividly :)


That's a God's gift to us a single Saffron filament can color a glass of water Golden yellow.

Yes, It can very well do this, however I used about half a gram for my extract (I left the filaments in to and ingested the remainder of the nutrients with the salts of the saffron.)

GOD Bless, LGO

Seth-Ra
04-22-2013, 03:02 AM
I am wondering how long should i let it stand to get a good extract?

When i make the extracts for us, i leave it until the stigmas turn white in the liquid - wont get much more out of them after that.

It is a very potent/fiery plant. Most definitely a refined-gold of the plant kingdom. :)



~Seth-Ra

solomon levi
04-22-2013, 05:12 AM
here's my experience with saffron in Paracelsus' elixir of propriety
http://forum.alchemyforums.com/showthread.php?454-Paracelsus-Elixir-of-Propriety

LostGnosticOccultum
04-22-2013, 02:16 PM
here's my experience with saffron in Paracelsus' elixir of propriety
http://forum.alchemyforums.com/showthread.php?454-Paracelsus-Elixir-of-Propriety
Nice thread you have there Solomon.

I thought of doing something similar with saffron as the main ingredient and Ling-Zhi (http://forum.alchemyforums.com/showthread.php?3551-Ling-Zhi-The-Mushroom-of-Immortality) as the secondary ingredient. I would use 200 proof vodka to extract the desired compounds and then distill off vodka to obtain an oil from the concoction. I need to obtain some more saffron (as I ran out yesterday, luckily I'm going to be getting more come Tuesday) and i need to get the Ling-Zhi (http://forum.alchemyforums.com/showthread.php?3551-Ling-Zhi-The-Mushroom-of-Immortality) as well (I'm going to see if I can find it in nature and harvest it myself, as it grows here in America)

GOD Bless, LGO

True Initiate
04-22-2013, 05:37 PM
When i make the extracts for us, i leave it until the stigmas turn white in the liquid - wont get much more out of them after that.

It is a very potent/fiery plant. Most definitely a refined-gold of the plant kingdom. :)

How much time was needed for stigmas to go white? Would you also recommend to concentrate and filter the liquid from saffron stigmas in the end?

LostGnosticOccultum
04-22-2013, 06:37 PM
4-5 hours

Seth-Ra
04-22-2013, 06:37 PM
How much time was needed for stigmas to go white? Would you also recommend to concentrate and filter the liquid from saffron stigmas in the end?

Honestly, not much time was needed. An hour or so for good measure. (We did it longer cause it was going while we slept - it won't hurt it. But if you're trying to do it relatively quickly, that's not a problem either.)
When filtered, they will be golden.

You can grind them and dry them and try get the ash (won't be to much I'd imagine due to small quantity of material), or if you have an alkahest that will open/eat organic matter, that's a viable option to get the fixed salts.




~Seth-Ra

i only know nothing
04-22-2013, 06:47 PM
Mod Note:

Off-topic posts 'extracted' into a new, separate thread: What makes a process 'Alchemical'? (http://forum.alchemyforums.com/showthread.php?3558-What-makes-a-process-Alchemical)

solomon levi
04-23-2013, 02:41 AM
Some of what you said there is true some not, the consciousness of humans is weak, nothing in the universe is superior to the consciousness of God, God put into all things an anima mundi, a mind, which works to engender salt, sulfur and mercury, which is physical form, spirit and soul, each of these plants under discussion already carries that on it that was engrafted upon it by the anima mundi, its is this each in its own way that cures by way of sympathies, your febble consciousness cannot alter the anima mundi, and change how these plant tinctures react upon the human constitution, can you transmute a thistle into a rose? No you only plant the appriopriate seed, read Basil's 12 Keys, the creation of the seed is reserved for God.

since you are asking and answering questions yourself, i must assume you're not here for communication with others. be careful. your kind doesn't last long here.
man is not just weak consciousness... that is his unripened state... cont...

Krisztian
04-23-2013, 02:10 PM
Is that book anything like the pdf, John Reid's Course on Practical Alchemy?

DVD.


. . . . on second thought, probably not. because I don't remember him talking about visulizations or mantras.

Listen to the part about how JHR3 realized (after two years of stagnation) that he wouldn't be able to complete Opus Minor unless he visualized the symbols during the process, at different phases.

True Initiate
04-23-2013, 04:59 PM
Now, can we get back to the topic of the thread?

~Seth-Ra

Yes, sir!

After filtering saffron extract through the coffee filter i poured it into suitable container. The colour and the smell of the extract is beautiful so i decided to show you guys just how beautiful it is.

https://www.youtube.com/edit?video_id=gHOQa4AvBpY


http://img264.imagevenue.com/loc442/th_736481834_Finished_122_442lo.jpg (http://img264.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=736481834_Finished_122_442lo.jpg)


I will try 5 to 10 drops with freshly squeezed orange juice as recommended and post the internal results sometime later!

True Initiate
04-23-2013, 05:42 PM
I have mixed it with orange juice and drank it and it looked very much like Tequila Sunrise cocktail only the red colour was above. The taste was pretty good and interestingly Saffron have some metallic aroma to it. I will drink it every day now until i empty that small bottle and keep you updated how it goes.

Krisztian
04-23-2013, 07:02 PM
After filtering saffron extract through the coffee filter i poured it into suitable container. The colour and the smell of the extract is beautiful so i decided to show you guys just how beautiful it is.

That's a strong red colour! My extract looks more deep orange, dark.

Thanks for posting the photo.

LostGnosticOccultum
04-23-2013, 08:06 PM
Nice work TP!

True Initiate
04-23-2013, 09:18 PM
Thanks LGO! That's the good thing about the forums you can learn about other people ideas and check them for yourself. Imagine if every tenth member in the practical section did the same just how much experiments there should be by now? That would be amazing!

Krisztian
04-24-2013, 01:34 AM
That's a strong red colour! My extract looks more deep orange, dark.

I suppose checking it under natural light would help me actually see that it's red!

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8544/8676473965_3fdbe1d074_n.jpg (http://forum.alchemyforums.com/album.php?albumid=48&attachmentid=725)

You'll see the saffron red. It looked orange-like at the beginning.

LostGnosticOccultum
04-24-2013, 05:25 AM
Thanks LGO! That's the good thing about the forums you can learn about other people ideas and check them for yourself. Imagine if every tenth member in the practical section did the same just how much experiments there should be by now? That would be amazing!

yes it would since we have 265 members we'd have 26.5 truly active members! That'd be amazing haha

LostGnosticOccultum
04-24-2013, 05:37 AM
I suppose checking it under natural light would help me actually see that it's red!

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8544/8676473965_3fdbe1d074_n.jpg (http://forum.alchemyforums.com/album.php?albumid=48&attachmentid=725)


You'll see the saffron red. It looked orange-like at the beginning.

Nice work Krisztian! Looks great!

GOD Bless, LGO

Krisztian
04-29-2013, 04:11 PM
I had to make a brief post about the strong influence this tincture had/has on my head. It is something akin to the feeling after performing deep abdominal breathing for extended periods. I add it to my morning herbal mixture.

Anyone has similar symptoms?

LostGnosticOccultum
04-29-2013, 05:18 PM
I had to make a brief post about the strong influence this tincture had/has on my head. It is something akin to the feeling after performing deep abdominal breathing for extended periods. I add it to my morning herbal mixture.

Anyone has similar symptoms?

A Similar effect to an oxytocin boost, yes. I have experienced this while dosing myself with saffron. The saffron seems to help with the delivery of oxygen to the brain which cases a calming and soothing effect which helps with meditation and sleep.

GOD Bless, LGO

Salazius
04-30-2013, 09:15 AM
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-0LEd_8B-aHE/S2mYM3nhJ_I/AAAAAAAAD1g/QV9TASgyNfg/w640-h480/P9060250%255B1%255D.JPG

This is my tincture of safron.

Very nice effect too. Mostly on the swadhisthana at first.

LostGnosticOccultum
04-30-2013, 12:08 PM
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-0LEd_8B-aHE/S2mYM3nhJ_I/AAAAAAAAD1g/QV9TASgyNfg/w640-h480/P9060250%255B1%255D.JPG

This is my tincture of safron.

Very nice effect too. Mostly on the swadhisthana at first.



Nice work, how much saffron did you use to alcohol?

Salazius
04-30-2013, 01:56 PM
5 grams of saffron maybe, 150ml at first of SVini. But it was distilled after.

Krisztian
04-30-2013, 03:59 PM
Very nice effect too. Mostly on the swadhisthana at first.

I was delightfully surprised also, sent a batch to my beloved mother.


5 grams of saffron maybe, 150ml at first of SVini. But it was distilled after.

One needs to be careful with higher doses (anything over 8 grams), that's been my conclusion after researching saffron and their use.

Thanks for the photo Salazius, this Thread is turning out to be quite fun!

Salazius
05-01-2013, 11:08 AM
It was not a dose, but the amount of saffron used to make the tincture.