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HappyPotter
04-28-2013, 07:23 PM
From a runic Hyperborean Vedic teacher (Volkvs) I used to learn from about Jesus..

Jesus Christ is a biblical version of: Egyptian Horus, Vedic Krishna, Slavic Kresnik, Svarozich + cult of Svetovid, MythRa ("washing out"; shining out or Scepter in Treta Yuga; "3rd Era"(pre 5008 BCE; pre Kali Yuga(Kill; "penetration"; "Kala"(muddy, dirty); Vek (Viyek; Vyuga) - Yuga. ) - preMitrenye, Prometheus...
If they crucified a man; he became Living god which was re-SURrected " ("Sura"; "Morning dawn"; from NaZareth; "Falling star"; "Lucifer"; Venus...Osiris - Bacchus (center of the Vatican; Babylonian-Greek version of the Asuras; A'Sura; "Against Surya"; "Against Sun"; a parasitical version (and continuity) of Osiris-Horus.

Religions are institutions or "re-league" for brainwash and program the population; to control them and over their minds create an artificial Matrix (Egregore) - to revive the artificial Zoodiac of the parasitical "gods"; the sacrifice of the "Incarnated god-human" to these deities means a gift and a free ticket into their realm; to capture the human (Goy'im; goyit; means "to breed in slavic languages & "Gay" (not homosexual gay) as "paradise"; GAYA in "greek" ) -so "to breed animals (humans, sheep) for their own use and to feed the wolf in the sheep clothing - God; and we as its "slaves", sluge (slug also in english)...and to transform us into brainless, enslaved, artificial beings called Golem - Gol'im in Slavic; "NAKED"...

Hebrew language was artificially created and as oldest spoken (Liturgically) in Byzantium among real "old" Rabbis (RAB= "servant" to "god", gebrauch (in german); ge-b-rauch; ch transformed from v via b(betatism); the Linguistic "hyperborean" root is RB (as we would write it down in Hebrew).
Christian church invented the "devil" to scare the people; to keep them for themselves as "holy sheep". The era of Inquisition (dark middle ages) followed.
The root of Devil derived from Hyperborean word Dev or Deva which means "Divine" (godly) and addition of IL is EL or (b)EL (Ba'al), which means "Shining" (highly), "Lord" in later Akkadian, Phoenician; Bala in Sanskrit and god Veles (Bull)... lord of the Nav in the Astronomical cycle. Protector of the cattle, women & children (its name was later spatted, perverted and stolen into Torahic, Biblical, Quranic (Islam was also created by the Roman church as a "plan B" in a case if the Christianity wouldn't become popular or wouldn't become successful. ) meanings (so it became "devilish" (pagan = rural, satanic, non holy, primitive in Latin ).

Also Ra is "shining, illuminated one, sun" which is Vedic Rama or Brahma - "opening", Prama; "pra" (pre; grand)- & Ma; shortened for "manyat", "menit"(in Slavic, Meinung in German); "thinking" (knowing); "pre-gnosis"). Ra always stands for something related to the "source" or "light", "knowledge", "foundation"...+ Mir as "space" (universe), Radomir (Ra (until; - to (do) Mir (Meru, space, universe). - ZooDiac(Zodiac); as the new "Isus (Zeus; Zoo'os (As; Deus)) Krstos (Egyptian Krst+os; but Egyptian Krst Horus (Krishna) is the "ciclic" (Hour, Horo-scope,...Horovod, Hors) "Incarnation of the god" (Kresnut; Krs-Na (on); "Enliven on" (flesh); Swedish Hress-Foerre (fire); this is Slavic Kres & god Kresnik, Krishenj...

The YaShuAh also derives from Egyptian Shu and his step father, JoSeph became Egyptian SEB or GEB; which is a perversion of Aryan SHIVA ("SEW"ing one (together) or Jiva - or Zhiva; "alive" ); as the "Father" of Osiris (Asura)...representing the "light"; his fake mother is Nut or Nuv; which represents a "Darkness" ; this is Slavic NAV or Norse NIFLHEIM (Nav Home); Naraka; Hell, Underworld in the Mir; SvargaLoka (Svarog's , Svarga Starry "Locations") or Sanskrit's PRA-NAVA ("pre Nav"; which existed before Nav - old Underground; pre our Universe; this is "Darkness" around our Milky way; which is not empty)...

So ... from Seb/Sev (Geb; also note "city of Thebes; Thebe = "City of the Living"; Th; Sh; city of Jiva (Zhiv)) derived Moses's (Osarsiph = Greek term for Egyptian ASAR+SEB; where Asar = Osiris and Seb = later Christian "JoSeph") derived also "Jesus's" fake father...

thrival
04-28-2013, 08:58 PM
Is very possible to make linquistic observations and correlations, and is also certain the bible has spurious passages, but more than a few people have actually seen Jesus, angels, Ascended spirits, saints, etc. and experienced miracles by same, in fact miracles are (or at least once were) the criteria for saint-hood. I don't know why some people have such a difficult time with the nature of an Afterlife, or the Beings who live there, and sometimes visit here; even many alchemists talked about it. I mean what is a "heavenly" salt if there weren't such a (better) place than here. And what would the point of alchemy be if there were no such place and "here" was all there is.

HappyPotter
04-29-2013, 08:04 AM
Is very possible to make linguistic observations and correlations

According to the guy I used learn from Words (and neuro-lingual containers preserved in them) are THE ONLY KEY to understand the true history of humanity, all other paradigms as BIBLE, QUR'AN, TORAH-TANACH, ZOHAR, etc with consequent teachings which sprang from all of them are ARTIFICIALLY CREATED HOLOGRAPHIC MATRIX. This is why Saurian entities [plural] behind Semitic Tetragrammaton YHWH said in Genesis 11:7 "...Let us go down and mix up their language so that they will not understand each other." (SLAVIC WAS THAT ONE LANGUAGE OF HUMANITY ABOUT WHICH SEMITIC DEITY IS BRAGGING IN Genesis 11:7 ")
Example;
Word NAGA does not come from Sanskrit, it comes from Slavic Aryan (H'Aryan and Da'Aryan), it was simply recorded in Sanskrit upon arrival of H'Aryans and Da’Aryans on the Saraswati river in Indus Valley. Sanskrit itself is artificially created language (for the preservation of H'Aryan and Da'Aryan oral traditions since approximately ~603,000 BC) and derived from H'Aryan and Da'Aryan Runic (1400 runes total). The closest language to H'Aryan and Da'Aryan currently is Russian or Old Slavic family of languages throughout the Europe. In Old Slavic the Sanskrit’s ORIGINAL word NAGAS was written as NAGI (НАГИ), with original meaning that alleged “Adam” and “Eve” (adapa race) were the "seed" and offspring of NAGAS (it is suffice to note here that all current human races are not descendants from Nagas-Nachash, except THE ORIGINAL HEBREWS – later described in Torah as the Levi (currently called Cohen) tribe which was artificially "cross-bread" to serve NAGAS-NACHASH themselves). When Bible was translated from the ORIGINAL OLD SLAVIC (H’Aryan) into alleged "ancient" Hebrew approximately in 1050 AD in Byzantium by the scribes of bloodline of Isaak Angel (Hebrew is an artificially created tongue and alphabet by NAGAS-NACHASH-COSCHEI), the neuro-lingual container of NAGAS (НАГИ) was intentionally translated and transliterated as word “NAKED”, thus changing the meaning of the original neuro-lingual container, and with the play on the root of the neuro-lingual container of the original word abbreviated THE OFFSPRING OF SAURIAN RACE NAGAS (НАГИ) it became to be a neuro-lingual container for the word NAKED - all that was done for the sole purpose of hiding the original ancestry of ORIGINAL HEBREWS (Hebrew [עִבְרִית] means “cross-over through copulation”).

In "ancient" Hebrew (which is known only ~1000 years and the youngest of ALL "ancient" artificially created languages - the phonetic play of the neuro-lingual container NAGI (НАГИ) was intentionally written as (ערם עירם ‛êyrôm ‛êrôm ), which also means (ערם ‎ ‛âram), - from where arrived the fictitious combined personage of A'Bram or Abraham's bloodline of Nagas-Nachash, who was “the seed” and descendant of NAGAS or Shining Ones described in the legendary "Book of Enoch".

Secondly, alleged Hebrew Nachash (נָחַשׁ ‎ nâchash) IS A COMBINATION OF TWO WORDS – NA-GA & NA-CHASH - THE FIRST PART OF THE WORD NAGA – “NA” and THE SECOND PART OF THE WORD NACHASH – “CHASH”. The neuro-lingual container of word nâchash is CHSH or SHCH. Together it will fuse or morph two neuro-lingual containers together - “NA” and “CHASH” as “NA-CHASH”.

Both words NAGA (नाग) and NACHASH (נָחַשׁ) are describing absolutely and completely the same SEED or ANCESTRAL BLOODLINE AND THE ORIGIN OF THE FIRST CROSSBREEDS – CALLED HEBREWS, except the neuro-lingual container of NAGAS as it is in Sanskrit (NAGI) is older approximately 110,000 years than Hebrew NACHASH (נָחַשׁ).
The origin of word nâchash is Old Slavic – Aryan. The original word and neuro-lingual container was COSCHEI (Кощей קושצ'אי) with neuro-lingual container or root CHSH or SHCH. After transliteration in/into Hebrew it became the word NHSH (נָחַשׁ) with the same neuro-lingual container as in Old Slavic and before that in Aryan. Word COSCHEI in Old Slavic is almost (with slight deviation) means exactly the same as neuro-lingual container of Sanskrit word “NAGI” and Old Slavic or Slovenic – “НАГИ”.

Simply put - two words abbreviate the entity which is Saurian in nature. As in Hebrew Torah the same entities are called NHSH (נָחַשׁ ‎ nâchash) or Shining Ones, including entity in Torah behind the Tetragrammaton called YHWH (Jehovah), also including the secondary nonetheless important god of Ek-Gipto OSIRIS who was the first seed of NAGAS in human flesh and was destroyed by Aryans.
Also MAKOSH (HATHOR) IS THE OLDEST GODDESS IN THE UNIVERSE THAT VEDIC ARYANS BROUGHT TO THE AREA WHERE THEY ESTABLISHED KHEMET (EGYPT) in ~26,000 BC. Later on Hathor became to be ASHERA, CONSORT OF BAAL (ВЕЛЕС) and LATER HEBREW "CYCLE" called YHWH (note that YHWH IS NOT A GOD, but cycle, simply cosmic cycle...).

In Egyptian mythology, Hathor (Egyptian for House of Horus, but correctly THE MOTHER OF HORS or HORUS [МАТЬ ХОРСА]) was originally a personification of the Milky Way (Mehet-Weret), in Slavic Aryan МАКОШЬ-СВАРГА-СВАРА-ВЕРЕТ (represented as SYMBOL OF MILKY WAY - SWASTIKA WITH FOUR SLEEVES), which was seen as the milk that flowed from the udders of a heavenly cow (Slavic Aryan ZIMUN COW (КОРОВА ЗИМУН) creating four galactic sleeves.

Hathor, an an ancient SLAVIC GODDES MAKOSH (note again - NOT SEMITIC LILITH), worshiped as a cow-deity from ~31000 BC, known to us as "HATHOR" from at least 2700 BC, during the 2nd dynasty, and even by the Scorpion King. The name Hathor refers to the encirclement by her, in the form of the Milky Way, of the night sky and consequently of the god of the sky, Horus (Slavic Aryan god HORS [ХОРС]). She was originally seen as the daughter of Ra (РаМХа), the creator whose own cosmic birth was formalized as the Ogdoad cosmogony. An alternate name for her, which persisted for at least 3,000 years, was Mehturt (also spelled Mehurt 9Mother of Hors), Mehet-Weret, and Mehet-uret), meaning great flood, a direct reference to her being the Milky Way (SWARA). The Milky Way was seen as a waterway in the heavens, sailed upon by both the sun god and the king, leading the Egyptians to describe it as The Nile in the Sky. Due to this, and the name Mehturt, she was identified as responsible for the yearly inundation of the Nile. Another consequence of this name is that she was seen as a herald of imminent birth, as when the amniotic sac breaks and floods its waters, it is a medical indicator that the child is due to be born extremely soon. HATHOR (MAKOSH) was the Goddess of Motherhood. As a provider of milk, and due to cows careful tending of their calves, the cow was a universal symbol of motherhood, and so Hathor became goddess of motherhood, gaining titles such as 'The Great Cow Who Protects Her Child' and 'Mistress of the Sanctuary of Women.' Because of the aspect of motherhood, her priests were oracles, predicting the fate of the newborn, and midwives delivering them. As a mother, since she enclosed the sky, she was seen as the mother of Horus. Symbolically she became the divine mother of the pharaoh, who was identified as Horus. Since Horus's wife was Isis, Hathor was sometimes said to be her mother, although it was more accurate to say she was her mother in law. As Horus was also said to be the son of Ra, Hathor was identified as Ra's wife (Ra created her in a non-sexual manner), gaining the title Mistress of Heaven. Having been identified as Ra's wife, it was said she arose from Ra's tears, and thus was identified as the Eye of Ra. In art, Hathor was often depicted as a golden cow (sometimes covered in stars), with the titles Cow of Gold, and The one who shines like gold, or as a woman with the ears of a cow and a headdress of horns holding the sun-disc, which represented Ra. Hathor was identified as the Pleiades. Also HATHOR (MAKOSH) was a Fertility Goddess. The cow's large eyes with long lashes and generally quiet demeanour were often considered to suggest a gentle aspect of feminine beauty. There are still cultures in the world where to say that a girl is as pretty as a heifer is a great compliment, rather than taking you cow as an insult.

And so Hathor rapidly became a goddess of beauty, and fertility, thus also a patron goddess for lovers. A tale grew up around this in which Ra is described as having been upset over Horus' victory over Set (representing the conquest of Lower Egypt by Upper Egypt), and went off to be alone, and so Hathor went to him and started to dance and stripped naked, showing him her genitals, which cheered him up, so he returned. The tale is thought also to describe a solar eclipse, as it depicts Ra, the sun, going away to sulk, and then returning when cheered up. In her position as a female fertility goddess, who readily strips naked, she was often depicted in red, the color of passion, though her sacred color is turquoise, and so gained the titles Lady of the scarlet-colored garment, and Lady of sexual offerings (Nebet Hetepet in Egyptian). This also is what ARYAN VEDIC KAMA-SUTRA meant - KAMA-SUTRA OF MAKOSH-HATHOR which was was brought to Egypt by Vedic Aryans.


and is also certain the bible has spurious passages

Once again from the same teacher;

“Bible was originally written in Old Slavic”, I mean the part of Tanach that IS NOT PENTATEUCH (5 book of “Moses”). So called Torah was added to the corpus generally called today as Torah or Tanach where Torah is included. The latest evidence as confirmation to my own research was studying the works of mathematician A. Fomenko – all his books. I'd like to state THAT I DO NOT AGREE WITH ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING FOMENKO SAYS IN HIS BOOKS BY LITERALLY PUSHING HIS FINAL CONCLUSIONS AS OBVIOUS “FACTS”. In a sense he has been "advised" by rather darker type of Yahwists-kabbalists on the issues of chronology of human race, - it is very true that even toughest kabbalist and Zohar practitioner would have obvious difficulty in objective “Hebrew Torahic Chronology", which in reality is ABSOLUTE ARTIFICIAL “SCIENTIFICALLY” MASKED HOAX.
Nevertheless, in my opinion being partially a troller (intentional disinformant) himself Fomenko did a few things right, especially in area of so called Torahic chronology and Judaic history which would include “old” Hebraism, Judaism, Christianity and Islam claiming its YOUNG AGE. Yes, in comparison to the Aryan timeline and chronology Hebraic history, IS YOUNG, STARTING FROM 3767 BC, This is the time when first Naga-Nachash crossbreed “Adama” was born. The problem is that “Adam” is not the father of human kind, he was special human and non-human DNA crossbreed. And that date is the beginning the story of Hebrews-crossbreeds. This same story was later compiled in Sumer, its colony Ek-Gipto, Ephiopia, Babylon-Assyria and written compilation ended in Byzantium. And this is the new timeline in his “new chronology” Fomenko describes just brilliantly in his books. Only fools do not understand what he is doing…HE IS NOT TOUCHING ARYAN – PURE HUMAN (RASA) CHRONOLOGY WHICH GOES 600,000 YEARS BACK.
The biggest mistake and fault of Fomenko’s so called "new chronology" is that he based it on...Torah-Tanach ONLY and consequently the whole Bible, making it as a GENERIC JUDEO-CHRISTIAN PLATFORM OF “HUMAN” APPEARANCE ON THE PLANETARY SCENE WITH ITS REAL HISTORY AND CIVILIZATION. He states that everything started from ADAM, implying that biblical records and chronology are “approximately” correct. That is his main absurd and absolute genius - "paid for" research reveals black kabbalistic holes in authenticity of Judeo-Masonic Yahwistic legend that was forcefully imposed on Aryan race (RASA)..
In any case Fomenko is absolutely correct about the age of Hebrews, Judeo-Chistian paradigm of chronological Black Boxes of history, about approximate time of the writing of alleged “Hebrew” Torah, Tanach and consequently the whole Bible by dating all of them to ~1000 AD. By the way, the oldest Hebrew Tanach called Codex Leningradensis or Leningrad Codex, was compiled exactly in ~1050 AD and it was done not in current Russia (Tartaria), but in partially then ruled Byzantium by Slavs Aryans. The place of the writing "cycles" of the alleged books of the Bible Fomenko is giving correct also – approximately ~1000 – 1250 AD Byzantium, - not current Palestine, BCE Babylon or Mesopotamia region in general, which means that Hebrews (Jews especially) are not “ancient” people, their alleged “god” is not “ancient” deity, more over - they are not even an authors of the mentioned above texts, but re-writers, re-compilers and re-interpreters.
THE ORIGINAL AUTHORS AND COMPILERS WERE ARYANS (including the main Aryan genetic bloodline – Slavs) Another thing though, - Fomenko has proved that part of Tanach (Bible that IS NOT PENTATEUCH) was written by Slavs Aryans, - including Psalms, all books of Prophets, the New Testament, etc WITHOUT MONOTHEISTIC BELIEFS AND YAHWISTIC DEADLY IDEOLOGY. Later on a lot of text was inserted and Original Bible was re-compiled. Re-compilation of the Bible continued further by Yahwistic Vatican till Rosicrucians took over the new “translation” under Martin Luther.
The scribes of bloodline of crossbreed and Nachash worshipper Isaak Angel (real factual personage in Byzantium), who was the High Priest of Sanhedrin at that time has re-compiled Old Slavic scrolls and texts of DAVYDS (Druids) and inserted Yahwistic (Levitic) version of Pentateuch making it the beginning of the book known today as Bible. It is very obvious and simple to understand that pro-Yahwistic cabinet of later chronology and history adjustment Jesuit Scaliger (from The Order of Jesus) re-recompiled Isaak’s version of "Slavic-Aryan Bible" several times to introduce overall history of human race tight to the alleged "Adam and Eve", "creator-god" Jehovah, Shining One Noah with his sons-crossbreeds, and all artificial package of characters-archetypes in current version of the Bible.
In today's “linguistic” disciplines persists perverted “ACCEPTED” (by who?) PARADIGM THAT HEBREW IS THE OLDEST TONGUE, ALPHABET and consequently MONOTHEISTIC "FAITH", but even Fomenko proves that it is pure nonsense and hoax.
Hebrew derived from Akkadian, Akkadian derived from Phoenician, and Phoenician in its own right derived from Sumerian Nagas-Nachash-Anunnaki cuneiform that was an artificial substitute for the Phoenician writing, which was what is known today as THAT OLD SLAVIC-ARYAN (Phoenicians were Slavs-Aryans and Aryans).
The second accepted notion is that Old Slavic derived from Greek, but when you study the neuro-linguistics of both - Old Slavic and Greek, you will quickly find out that 90% of neuro-lingual containers of Greek language is that of Old Slavic.
So, the issue is in the following - Old Slavic is the ORIGINAL mother tongue and language of Greek and not the other way around. Please read book of JOSEPH YAHUDA “HEBREW IS GREEK” (my note – he has proved that Hebrew derived from Greek, and as I mentioned already Greek derived from Old Slavic).
The same can be easily proven with Sanskrit - Sanskrit IS NOT THE MOTHER TONGUE AND LANGUAGE OF SLAVIC (or Russian [Slavonic] family of languages, but the other way around - artificial Sanskrit tongue, language and alphabet derived from Slavic Aryan, - in this regard I absolutely agree with V. Chudinov's research - 75% of Sanskrit words have absolute Slavic neuro-lingual containers and can be easily deciphered with current modern Russian. ALL OTHER WORLD LANGUAGES WON’T DO IT !!!
From here arrives one interesting fact, - the Hebrew alphabet and tongue and language is an artificial product of the above mentioned languages and ESPECIALLY THE ORIGINAL OLD SLAVIC (or Slavonic).
Please note, when I say OLD SLAVIC, I am not talking about OLD SLAVIC “CHURCH” LANGUAGE AND INVENTED ALPHABET AFTER BLOODY CHRISTIANIZATION OF KIEVAN RUS, but one that used to be THAT ONE LANGUAGE OF SANSKRIT RISHIS (AND ALL HUMANITY) IN ANTEDILUVIAN TIMES IN DISTANT HYPERBOREA (Da’Arya).


I don't know why some people have such a difficult time with the nature of an Afterlife

The afterlife in runic Vedic culture is Nav (lower astral), Yav (material), Slav (higher astral), Prav (celestial and beyond). Hyperborean Vedic spirituality was called “The Golden Path of Spiritual Development” (God is called Incomprehensible Great Ra-M-Ha, Sanskrit Brahma) based on karmic cycles and reincarnation, plus the teachings of Yaga now called Yoga (Yaga existed before "Hindu" civilization, the word remained in Norse as Ygdrasil, this is Yaga Drasil; Drevo, Tree, ancient temples where the priests were teaching about it was called PraYaga) and the Divine Potion of the Gods (Alchemy) and the practise of vegetarianism (The light of Great Ra-M-Ha (Brahma)(God) is in all beings, actually it was Slavic God Perun (Germanic Odin) that suggested we not eat anything that has ‘blood’ in it. Yav worlds are considered training grounds for Slav and Prav worlds. Example outside of training on the Path, this planet is considered a training school for learning ‘wisdom’ by making ‘mistakes’ as well as learning to perceive and become immune to Nav worlds (parasites/dark forces). Hyperborean culture (considered in these circles as the oldest and original of Earth, (hence the pyramids and stone ruins found all over the planet and on the sea floor) also the Runic Vedas are considered the oldest writings of Earth and the most suppressed for that matter) with a chronology once again dating back over 600 000BC (in the fake Gregorian calendar and from the perspective that Darwinism/Creationism is a hoax) with the settlement of the now sunken “Da’Aria” in the artic North (via runic Vaitmans/Sanskrit Vimanas) http://ulis.liveforums.ru/uploads/0005/b3/1d/18317-4-f.jpg which is long before “modern” Abrahamic religions (which are mostly ‘ripped off’, corrupted versions of pure runic Vedic culture). Before that there was no such thing as original sin/saviour/hell mind cults or the bloody death cults of Kali-Ma which included animal and human sacrifice. But from a Runic/Vedic perspective we are now in the Day of Svarog (beginning of a new golden era) with the Night of Svarog (kali Yuga) fully ending at the end of the “Time of the Torah” in the year 2090 with the return of the Hyperborean Gods as prophesied by God Perun (Odin). (Gods become myths in dark cycles, nor are they considered ‘saviours’, they simple teach folk are the same as them just still on the path to Slav and Prav).


In regards to “sources” of such runic Vedic information the Volkvs teacher (someone that has had the runic plates handed down to them generation after generation and can actually read them, they are written down on gold and other precious metals plates (Santees) rolls of high-quality parchment (charatiys) and wooden plates (volchvaries), is not around at the moment but will hopefully have his own youtube channel running in the near future (I don’t know who this guy is but he uploaded a series from the runic Vedic teacher I used to learn from if anyone is interested www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7noXqRsiEY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7noXqRsiEY) ) . But for now there are only a few volumes available, but they are only available in Russian translated from the Ha’Aryan and Ka’Aryan runes, but for anyone that is interested you can download them free here; http://vedagor.ru/index/0-6

lwowl
04-29-2013, 05:48 PM
Hyperborean Vedic spirituality was called “The Golden Path of Spiritual Development” (God is called Incomprehensible Great Ra-M-Ha, Sanskrit Brahma) based on karmic cycles and reincarnation, plus the teachings of Yaga now called Yoga (Yaga existed before "Hindu" civilization, the word remained in Norse as Ygdrasil, this is Yaga Drasil; Drevo, Tree, ancient temples where the priests were teaching about it was called PraYaga) and the Divine Potion of the Gods (Alchemy).

You’ve give a great deal of information that is very interesting. From my reading it would seem that we have arrived at similar conclusions from different avenues of discovery. I only know of one document that reaches back half million years of lineages. That is the Sumerian Kings list. What is your take on it.

lwowl

Andro
04-30-2013, 12:42 AM
I find this quite fascinating, this is all 'new' to me... And it also intuitively resonates with me on some levels...

HappyPotter, so far it seems that you have mostly quoted from other sources... What is your own take on this?

HappyPotter
04-30-2013, 07:13 AM
That is the Sumerian Kings list. What is your take on it.

Hey lwowl, btw this is other peoples hard work, I’m just passing on what I have learnt.

Once again from the same guy (and one of his students).


The list is wrong because of simple reason;

1. It is based on occult Biblical(later) views where Noah and Adamic ancestry "lived more than 1000 years" - so they have simply counted a cycle which lasted 3600 years (Shar) so we have 120 Sar max; which is 432 000 yeras (It never happened.);

Shumerian counting was based on Hyperborean calendar; "godly cycles", where 1 cycle represented 9 days which was called Devas or Devet; "Deva" or "godly"(check number 9 in Russian, Polish or any other dictionary); (note in Sanskrit was number 7 called Divas(a "day"(but not the one from the Sidereal or Synodial lunar cycles).

There were used at least 3 Calendars in use; both were based on different frequency of different Astronomical objects; Lunar (only), Solar and Lunar relatively to the STARRY (planetary; GODLY) phases. Lunar was more used for the agriculture (which commanded to people when to reap, when to sow...), Solar was based on the exchanges of the day/night and also relatively to the Starry constellations (zoodiac)

Lunar had 12 months (12 Moons) with ca 4,12 x 7 days(Synodial month/moon); (Sanskrit Vedic Maas; or Slavic Mesec - means also a Moon)

Godly (Starry) calendar had ca 27 (sidereal) days relatively to Moon traveling through Astronomical phases; in each phase is a ruler / master (in Sanskrit called Graha - Planet(God) (a "bean" in Slavic; grah; where bean in Sanskrit is Masa(this sounds like Maas; "month") the week was 9 (not 7) days long!
This is the only remain which survived until today; Lithuanian Gedeminas rod / sceptre.

(From right to left: general view of the sceptre, designations of 9 days in a week, designations of the 12 months. ) (slavic & lithuanian calendars were the same; this is Vedic Nakshatra btw)

http://www.staroverci.si/slike/veligor-slovanski-cas/Gediminas_calendar1.jpg

These 9 days arrive 3x per 1 Month (1 Nakshatra) and we got 27 sidereal days in full cycle).

The 7 days per 1 week arrived with Judeo-Christian Calendar via the Akkadian Calendar; 7 represented "lower world" (Astral) among Slavs; one of them were Rusalke (ghostly undead beings) ; Devas (women) had 9 layers of "bodies". That's why it existed a tradition / festival called Rusalka day; where women did not become "Rusalke" but oppositely; they were washed and cleaned in the water to become Devas... Numbers like 3, 7, 9, 18, 27 play an important role among Slavs, Lithuanians... (they survived until today implemented into the oral mythology and sayings)

Back to Shumer...

2. Original Egyptian (Manetho's list) Antediluvian dynasties started around 33 000 BCE (according to Eusebios who qoted Manetho) and Egypt was originally also an Aryan & Chaldean (Sumerian) province; current archeological discoveries prove this; that even Old "pre dynastic" Egyptian (means 3200 BCE) BCE) was strongly connected with Sumeria, India,...

1 full Sumerian cycle of Sumerians was not created with 60 parts into 3600 but over numbering with the basis with 9; 1 Shar (cycle) was a "king" (god); Among Hyperboreans: "after 9 years was born a god Kresnik ("Krishna") " (humans need 9 months) 9 * 40 made a full cycle (360 degrees) in the sky with 60 minutes of arc in a degree, and 60 arcseconds in a minute.

The numbering based on the "Slavic Aryan Vedas"; 144 years (16 * 9; 9 godly years * 16) With this (also occult number in Hebrew 144 000, and 144 000 days in Aztec (Mayan) calendar; creates the full Baktun. )

You can simply count ca 33 000 years of the Antediluvian dynasties of Sumeria & Egypt (according to Manetho; quoting by Eusebios; & The "birth of Osiris was in 13 753 BCE (according to roman sources); which was in Manetho's list called "Age of the shadows". 10 Sar (if i remember) (according to Frankenstein) of Osiris is 1440 years since 13 753; this is 12 313; after this age the "War of gods" happened ... "high tech"... which ended in a great catastrophe & ice age... "9000 years before Kritias" (Atlantis).

SAR is a Slavic word with the neuro-lingual container of SHAR (phonetically), which means BALL (miach’) or KRUG (derivation is KRUGO-LET (calendar). Sar (Shar) is also Slavic Aryan measurement system, (not Babylonian-Assyrian). So, A Sar could mean hundred different things, not necessarily the name, status and overall position of Hyperborean King in Hyperborean society …

Word “SAR” has exactly the same neuro-lingual container (root meaning) as ШАР (Круг Жизни) and word “SAROI” ШАРЫ (Кругов Лет or Круго-Лет) is plural of “SAR” and means many SARS.

Berosus in his Kings List was using word “SAROI” which means ШАРЫ, abbreviating the amount of years of all kings who held kingship in Sumer and Egypt:

BEROSUS KINGS LIST:

Note. Berosus explains that first king “Aloros” became king by claiming divine right: “Aloros, a Chaldean from Babylon, was the first king of the land and he reigned for ten Saroi (SARS)”. The names on the list of Berosus have been changed into names pronounceable to Greek readers; there is no letter “o” in the Sumerian or Akkadian languages:

King Aloros (Babylon) – 10 SAROI,

King Alaparos (Unknown) – 3 SAROI,

King Amelon (Pautibiblon) – 13 SAROI,

King Ammenon (Pautibiblon) – 12 SAROI,

King Amegalaros (Pautibiblon) – 18 SAROI,

King Daonos (Pautibiblon) – 10 SAROI,

King Euedorachos (Pautibiblon) – 18 SAROI,

King Amempsinos (Laragchos) – 10 SAROI,

King Otiartes (Laragchos) – 8 SAROI,

King Xisouthros (Unknown) – 18 SAROI.

Total: 120 SAROI (120 SARS)


COMPARISON OF CHALDEAN (BEROSUS) AND EGYPTIAN KING LIST:

CHALDEAN ALORUS = EGYPTIAN PTAH = 1440 years,

CHALDEAN ALOPARUS = EGYPTIAN RA = 432 years,

CHALDEAN AMELON = EGYPTIAN SU = 1872 years,

CHALDEAN AMMENON = EGYPTIAN SEB = 1728 years,

CHALDEAN AMEGALORUS = EGYPTIAN OSIRIS = 2592 years,

CHALDEAN DAONUS = EGYPTIAN SETH = 1440 years,

CHALDEAN AEGORACHUS = EGYPTIAN HOR = 2592 years,

CHALDEAN AMEMPSINUS = EGYPTIAN TUT = 1440 years,

CHALDEAN OTIARTES = EGYPTIAN MA = 1152 years,

CHALDEAN XISOUTHROS = EGYPTIAN HOR = 2592 years.


BEROSUS KINGS LIST (with the years of kingship of Hyperboreans according to the Slavic Aryan calendaric SAROI – ШАРОВ - Кругов Жизни) calculated as follows:

King Aloros (Babylon) – 10 SAROI, or 9 X 16 = 144 years and 144 years x 10 SAROI (ШАРОВ) = 1440 years

King Alaparos (Unknown) – 3 SAROI, or 9 X 16 = 144 years and 144 years x 3 SAROI (ШАРОВ) = 432 years

King Amelon (Pautibiblon) – 13 SAROI, or 9 X 16 = 144 years and 144 years x 13 SAROI (ШАРОВ) = 1872 years

King Ammenon (Pautibiblon) – 12 SAROI, or 9 X 16 = 144 years and 144 years x 12 SAROI (ШАРОВ) = 1728 years

King Amegalaros (Pautibiblon) – 18 SAROI, or 9 X 16 = 144 years and 144 years x 18 SAROI (ШАРОВ) = 2592 years

King Daonos (Pautibiblon) – 10 SAROI, or 9 X 16 = 144 years and 144 years x 10 SAROI (ШАРОВ) = 1440 years

King Euedorachos (Pautibiblon) – 18 SAROI, or 9 X 16 = 144 years and 144 years x 18 SAROI (ШАРОВ) = 2592 years

King Amempsinos (Laragchos) – 10 SAROI, or 9 X 16 = 144 years and 144 years x 10 SAROI (ШАРОВ) = 1440 years

King Otiartes (Laragchos) – 8 SAROI, or 9 X 16 = 144 years and 144 years x 8 SAROI (ШАРОВ) = 1152 years

King Xisouthros (Unknown) – 18 SAROI. or 9 X 16 = 144 years and 144 years x 18 SAROI (ШАРОВ) = 2592 years


THE TIME LINE OF THE BEGINNING OF CIVILIZATION OF HYPERBOREANS IN SUMERIA, ETHIOPIA (GOBI) AND EGYPT (as Sumerian colony – prison camp) for Osiris AFTER THE DESTRUCTION OF HYPERBOREA:

CHALDEAN ALORUS = EGYPTIAN PTAH = 1440 years,

CHALDEAN ALOPARUS = EGYPTIAN RA = 432 years,

CHALDEAN AMELON = EGYPTIAN SU = 1872 years,

CHALDEAN AMMENON = EGYPTIAN SEB = 1728 years,

CHALDEAN AMEGALORUS = EGYPTIAN OSIRIS = 2592 years,

CHALDEAN DAONUS = EGYPTIAN SETH = 1440 years,

CHALDEAN AEGORACHUS = EGYPTIAN HOR = 2592 years,

CHALDEAN AMEMPSINUS = EGYPTIAN TUT = 1440 years,

CHALDEAN OTIARTES = EGYPTIAN MA = 1152 years,

CHALDEAN XISOUTHROS = EGYPTIAN HOR = 2592 years.

Total years of kingship before deluge: 17280 years


Using shown above Slavic Aryan SAR (ШАР - Круг Жизни) system it is fairly easy to establish the date when “seven sages” started Sumerian and Egyptian civilizations:

120 SARS x 144 years = 17,280 years before the flood (which happened in approximately ~10,000 BC) + 12,000 –years after the flood = 29,280. Than ~29,000 BC is the beginning of Sumerian civilization and ~5,000 years later in ~24,000 BC was the beginning of Egyptian civilization as SUMERIAN COLONY.

All gods in Egypt before the appearance of Osiris with his pantheon were of Aryan origin - from Arktos, Da'Arya, Hyperborea with natural pure human DNA. Only AFTER the appearance of the pantheon of CROSSBREEDS, headed by Osiris and other CREATURES-CROSSBREEDS, the whole Egypt sunk into the chaos and finally was destroyed.

HappyPotter
04-30-2013, 07:28 AM
so far it seems that you have mostly quoted from other sources... What is your own take on this?

Hey Androgynus,

Like anyone else I look for archaeological/linguistic/etc evidence which these guys have (there’s a little archaeological evidence in that 6 part series youtube link), but to them understanding true human history is simple.

Plus it resonates with me intuitively as well, like he said, it should verify certain things you have intuitively felt in your heart your whole life, literally because it is in the ancestral memory of your DNA. But its deep, apparently they do certain advanced whole brain cross eyed type mediations to decipher certain runes in holographic ‘3D’ and Borean Yaga about the Universe is deep.

But as you know, there has been massive suppression of ancient wisdom and Hyperborean history is only now starting to see the light of day again (with the new cycle, hence why some volumes have been released and of course more to come). The fact that these Vedas can now be downloaded of the net is quite amazing; by memory I think it was only as early as the late eighties that someone was imprisoned in Russia for making parts of the (runic) Vedas public.

When he is up and running again I will let you know if you are interested.

And thanks for all insights etc on AF Androgynus, very much appreciated.

Andro
05-01-2013, 02:32 AM
When he is up and running again I will let you know if you are interested.

Yes, I am interested. Thank you!


And thanks for all insights etc on AF Androgynus, very much appreciated.

The appreciation is mutual, for your sharing and feedback alike.


The return of the Hyperborean Gods as prophesied by God Perun (Odin).

I have had a years-long fascination with this entity, known as 'Odin'.

Intriguing character - 'god', shaman, thief/trickster, warrior and poet, all rolled into one...

Almost an Equivalent to Hermes/Mercury (of sorts,) even ruling the same day of the week (Wednesday/Woden's Day/Odin's Day).

Sacrificing himself, wounded by his own sword and hanging himself upside down from the World Tree for 9 days, until receiving the knowledge of the Runes...

Sacrificing/giving one eye, in return for drinking out of the Fountain of Wisdom...

I would be thrilled to know more about this character, from the Runic/Vedic/Hyperborean perspective.

Would it be possible for you to extract/single out more info on this specific topic out of those materials?

Thanks!

lwowl
05-01-2013, 03:33 PM
HappyPotter:
“Hey lwowl, btw this is other peoples hard work, I’m just passing on what I have learnt.
Once again from the same guy (and one of his students).”

Thanks for the input connecting the Runic readings with the Sumerian King’s List, but a lot of personages on the list are not covered by the scenario your source gives.
Sumerian King’s List: http://etcsl.orinst.ox.ac.uk/section2/tr211.htm

I’m not too familiar with the Rune Oracles. I do have experience with the I Ching (Y King) oracle and the possible mathematical and geometric pathways of prognostication. I highly recommend, Oracles of the Dead, Ancient Techniques for Predicting the Future, by Robert Temple.

“But its deep, apparently they do certain advanced whole brain cross eyed type mediations to decipher certain runes in holographic ‘3D’ and Borean Yaga about the Universe is deep.”

That is very interesting. Back in the early 1990s an artist friend of mine created 3D effect paintings by crossing his eyes in a controlled manner, and then he would paint two pictures side by side that were just slightly different enough so that when you looked at them in a soft stare you would get a 3D image in the middle of your focus.

He was over one evening and we were discussing some philosophy and I got out the large color reproduction of the Egyptian Book of the Dead with the columns of pictographic hieroglyphs taken from the temple walls. He became very excited as he was able to “look” at the columns and project 3D images of corresponding pairs of glyphs that extended out from the walls and columns into new pictographs combining into a new image. I was stunned by his description and realized that this was an initiation sequence for the priests than no one else could see.

I asked him if he could draw out the projections and he said he could but that was the last time I saw him. We were involved in political activism for social change and we won in 1996. The feds were so pissed at us that many of us were arrested and the rest fled into hiding.

He tried to teach me how to see the 3D hieroglyphs but my eyes just snapped back giving me a headache.
For me the historic scenario has two possible actualities. One is of course about ancient aliens well covered by Sitchen, Von Daniken, and others. The second alternative is that our ancestors are the aliens as detailed in: Siva and Gallagher’s Glacier by Walt Richmond.

Hermes still walks among us!

lwowl

HappyPotter
05-02-2013, 09:44 AM
Would it be possible for you to extract/single out more info on this specific topic out of those materials?

Odin; He was one of the leading gods (Ases) of the Asgard... "Asgard" derives from Hyperborean term for a City; means "City (place) of As-es (gods)"; As is an Axis from 1 point; Os (Axis) in Russian, Ukrainian,... means constellations (stars) or Zodiac (=Zoo (Deu/Jiva/Zhiva; "Alive"(animals & their protectors- beasts (planets) - Diac (gods). So every god becomes the "ruling" one after certain time in the Starry sky (Axis; as As from Asgard) in Aesir (Asira; Sir; "Cheese(Keese in german; Ke-SIR; Ksiroda ("Ocean of Milk" in Sanskrit; this is Milky way (Galactics); from the same term derives Asiri ("war"( for milky way)) of Asura (later oSIRis)... Odin means "1. one" in Russian; Odna, Odin, Edin, Adin,...in different dialects.

Thor is the "2. one" in Russian - linguistic Hyperborean root is TR; example: vToroye; "secondly"; Torit; "to spread"; Torus in Greek is "torsion"; cycle; means Odin in flesh or ancesT[O]Ry (= Hyperborean Anta / ancient / Inda / Odna / Adna; "from beginning" (first one).

Regards to the "Russian, Bulgarian" runes; here is one example of them; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sitovo_inscription

Here are the remains of the destroyed (later) Slavic (comes from the same branch as English, Celtic, Etruscan,... people; (Hyper)Borean diaspora) temples (hram (s)) from Slavs... still remained in silence.. http://www.academia.edu/2633790/Poganska_religija_Slavena_u_


Also in regards to the Aryan "seven sages-gods" who established Egypt (Ek-Gipto) as Sumerian colony, in below list ‘PTAH’ is Perun/Odin.

1. CHALDEAN ALORUS = EGYPTIAN PTAH = 1440 years,

2. CHALDEAN ALOPARUS = EGYPTIAN RA = 432 years,

3. CHALDEAN AMELON = EGYPTIAN SU = 1872 years,

4. CHALDEAN AMMENON = EGYPTIAN SEB = 1728 years,

5. CHALDEAN AMEMPSINUS = EGYPTIAN TUT = 1440 years,

6. CHALDEAN OTIARTES = EGYPTIAN MA = 1152 years,

7. CHALDEAN XISOUTHROS = EGYPTIAN HOR = 2592 years.

Slavic Aryan Vedas contain “Perun’s Vedas Santees’’ (Books of Knowledge or Perun’s Wisdom Books), consisting of nine books, dictated by our first ancestor, the God Perun, to our far ancestors while their third arrival to the Earth on the spaceship Vaitman, in 38 004 B.C. Only the first book of these Vedas was translated into Russian nowadays. They also contain Perun’s prediction of the future events for 40 176 years ahead. (from 38 004BC).

Gods (patrons, curators, the previous ancestors of people) repeatedly arrived to the Midguard-land (Earth), communicated with Great Race descendants, transferring them Wisdom (history and precepts of ancestors, knowledge of cereals cultivation, devices of a communal life, clans prolongation, education of children, etc.). 165 032 years passed from the time when the Goddess Tara visited the Midguard-land. She was the younger sister of God Tarkh called as Dazhdbog (that gave Ancient Vedas). Slav-Aryan peoples called North Star in honor of this fine Goddess – Tara. Tarkh was the patron (curator) of the Eastern Siberia and Far East, and Tara was the patron of the Western Siberia. The territory name became Tarkhtara commonly, descendants recalled it as Tartariya.

The God Perun visited the Midguard-land more than 40 thousand years ago from the Uray-land in the Eagle Hall on Swarozh (heavenly) Circle, he visited it the third time. He was the god-patron of all soldiers and many Great Race Clans. The god-Thundered managing with Lightnings, the son of God Swaroga and Goddess Lada. After first three Heavenly Fights between Light and Darkness when Light Forces won, the God Perun went down onto the Midguard-land to tell people about happened events and what expects Lands in the future, about approach of Dark times. Dark times represent the period of people’s life when they cease to live under Heavenly Laws and start to live under the laws which the representatives of Pekelny World (Saurian) imposed to them. They teach people to create laws and live according to them, so they aggravate their life, lead to degradations and self-destruction.

God Perun visited the Midguard-land to tell Secret Wisdom to Priests and Elders of Saint Race Clans, how to prepare for dark, heavy times, when the sleeve of our swastika galaxy will pass through the spaces subjected to the forces from the Hell Dark Worlds. Light Gods will start to visit Great Races Clans again with our Galaxy sleeve output from the specified spaces. The beginning of Light times starts in Sacred Summer 7 521 from W.C.S.T. or in 2012 A.D.

Summer of 2004 (The year this was written)

Summer 7 513 from World Creation in the Star Temple (5 508 B.C.);

Summer 13 013 from the Great Cold snap (11 008 B.C.);

Summer 40 009 from Perun’s Third Visiting of Waitman (38 004 B.C.);

Summer 106 783 from the basis of Asguard Iriysky (104 778 B.C.);

Summer 111 812 from the Great Resettlement from Daarija (109 806 B.C.);

Summer 142 995 from the Period of Three Moons (140 990 B.C.);

Summer 153 371 from Assy Daya (151 336 B.C.);

Summer 165 035 from the Time of Tary, Perun’s daughter (163 030 B.C.);

Summer 604 379 from the Time of Three Suns (602 374 B.C.).

Then Dazhdbog arrived onto the Midguard-land – God Tarkh Perunovich, the God-keeper of ancient Great Wisdom. He was called as Dazhdbog (the giving God) because he gave people of Great Race and Heavenly Clan descendants Nine Santees (Books). These Santees were written down by ancient Runes and contained Sacred Ancient Vedas, Precepts of Tarkh Perunovich and his preaches. All inhabitants in various Worlds and Lands, where representatives of the Ancient Clan live, live according to Ancient Wisdom and Rules that Clan adheres. They began to call themselves as, ‘Dazhdbog grandsons’ after visiting our Ancestors by God Tarkh Perunovich.

Our Ancestors were visited by many other Gods as well.

Also orthodox linguistics and etymologists love to base and connect other "foreign" deities with Mercury, Hermes, etc.

Hermetism [Hermeticism], Thoth/Hermes Trismegistus - he is also Jehuti, Tahuti, Tehuti, Zehuti, Techu, Tetu, Thot, Thout, Thōout, ḏḥwty, ḏḥw) it becomes clear that the whole Judeo-Masonic-Yahwistic MATRIX consist from and based on these names - Osiris, Thoth, Hermes, Bacchus, Dionysus, Vakha, Vakhoris, Bussiris. All entities and named are artificially created MATRIX. There is only one real name in this list is Osiris and in current Judeo-Yahwistic power pyramid stands on one name of one of the Old Nachash-Nagas whose name was Osiris. Consequently, you may call current Judeo-Masonic Yahwism simply – MODERN OSIRIANISM.

The Osiris is not on the list of “7 sages”, because he was crossbreed (ТВАРИ), Osiris took Aryan ISIS (Hathor) as his wife triggering devastating war with Hyperboreans. Osiris’ himself was born from Semela Kadmon in approximately ~13, 478 BC before the flood.

Quoting Diodorus Siculus, Book One (Beginning), page 73:

“…23. The number of years from Osiris and Isis, they say, to the reign of Alexander (Alexander The Great 356-323 BC), who founded the city which bears his name in Egypt, is over ten thousand (my note – 13,478 BC), but, according to other writers, a little less than twenty-three thousand (my note -22,500 BC)…”
If Egypt was established in by “seven sages-Kings” in 24,000 BC as it shown on Berusus list in any case Osiris IS NOT THE FOUNDER OF EGYPT, BUT PRISONER IN THE EGYPTIAN COLONY, In either case Diodorus date of 22,500 BC is very close to the date of establishment of Egypt as colony (for NAGAS-NCHSH CROSSBREEDS) at 24,000 by Berosus account. If Osiris was born in 13,478 BC as a second option from Diodorus’ Book One “Beginning”, he is still NOT THE FOUNDER OF EGYPT, thus NOT A HYPERBOREAN.

Quoting Diodorus Siculus, Book One (Beginning), page 75:

“…2. And those who say that the god (OSIRIS) was born of Semelê (daughter of Kadma Chaldea) and Zeus in Boeotian Thebes are, according to the priests, simply inventing the tale. For they say that Orpheus, upon visiting Egypt and participating in the initiation and mysteries of Dionysus, adopted them and as a favour to the descendants of Cadmus, since he was kindly disposed to them and received honours at their hands, transferred the birth of the god to Thebes; and the common people, partly out of ignorance and partly out of their desire to have the god thought to be a Greek, eagerly accepted his initiatory rites and mysteries. 3. What led Orpheus to transfer the birth and rites of the god, they say, was something like this. 4. Cadmus, who was a citizen of Egyptian Thebes, begat several children, of whom one was Semelê; she was violated by an unknown person, became pregnant, and after seven months gave birth to a child whose appearance was such as the Egyptians hold had been that of Osiris. Now such a child is not usually brought into the world alive, either because it is contrary to the will of the gods or because the law of nature does not admit of it. 5. But when Cadmus found out what had taken place, having at the same time a reply from an oracle commanding him to observe the laws of his fathers, he both gilded the infant and paid it the appropriate sacrifices, on the ground that there had been a sort of epiphany of Osiris among men. 6. The fatherhood of the child he attributed to Zeus, in this way magnifying Osiris and averting slander from his violated daughter; and this is the reason why the tale was given out among the Greeks to the effect that Semelê, the daughter of Cadmus, was the mother of Osiris by Zeus…” (my note – Osiris as his “brother” SET were not of Hyperborean descent, but both were pure crossbreeds of human and non-human DNA).

Quoting Manetho, Aegyptiaca., frag. 42, 1.75-79.2

http://www.reshafim.org.il/ad/egypt/manetho_hyksos.htm

Book 1, section 227.

“…He [5] writes these words: "Those sent to work in the quarries lived miserably for a long while, and the king was asked to set apart the city Avaris, which the shepherds had left, for their habitation and protection; and he granted them their wish.
According to the ancient mythology, Avaris was Typho's [10] city. But when these men had entered it, and found it suitable for a revolt, they chose a ruler from among the priests of Heliopolis, whose name was Osarsiph [9]. They swore an oath that they would obey him in all things. The first laws he gave them were that they should not honour the Egyptian gods, nor should they abstain from any of the sacred animals that the Egyptians held in the highest esteem, but could kill them, and that they should not ally themselves to any but those that were of their conspiracy.

[5] He: Manetho
[9] Moses: It was also reported that the priest, who ordained their polity and their laws, was by birth of Heliopolis, and his name Osarsiph, from Osyris, who was the god of Heliopolis; but that when he was gone over to these people, his name was changed, and he was called Moses.
…as far as we see the alleged “MOSES” was Osirian Priest and you know what it means – he was the priest of YHWH – OSIRIS – SET - CYCLE IN CYCLE in opposition to HORS and BAAL – CYCLE IN CYCLE.

Saurian OSIRIS rules the world today from Astral Collective, “BAPHOMETIANS” (БАФОМЕТЧИКИ) – pure Zionists - OSIRIANS (ОЗИРИАНЕ) are Judeo-Masons, Christians and Muslims. THIS IS THE ILLUSION OF THE MATRIX and there is nothing there from “HYPERBOREA”…

Osiris is of that very nature - invented myth of “god-crossbreed” for the destruction of the memory of Aryan "sages-gods" who established Egypt (Ek-Gipto) as Sumerian colony.

HERE IS SOME LIGHT ON OSIRIS WHO ALWAYS WAS A SECONDARY GOD IN KHEMETIC (EGYPTIAN) PANTHEON. ALL LEGENDS AND STORIES ABOUT HIS DEEDS, CREATION OF HEAVEN AND EARTH AND ALSO HUMANITY IS PURE ARTIFICIALLY CREATED STORIES BY OSIRIAN PRIESTHOOD:

HappyPotter
05-02-2013, 09:50 AM
For me the historic scenario has two possible actualities. One is of course about ancient aliens well covered by Sitchen, Von Daniken, and others. The second alternative is that our ancestors are the aliens as detailed in: Siva and Gallagher’s Glacier by Walt Richmond.

(thanks for the book recommendation)

From a Hyperborean perspective pure humans (white, yellow, red, black races) simply came here on Waitmans/Vimanas. Aryan Vedic world view is based on Genotheism (not creationism/evolutionism nor alien interventionism) where genealogy of human DNA ancestral line continues from distant stars which is vividly described in all Vedas (humanity is 1,500 000 000 years old).

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Sourced from the (runic) Vedas;

During the most ancient times the Midguard-land (our Earth) was on the eight space Ways crossing, which connected habitable lands in nine Halls of the Light Worlds, including the Hall of Race where the representatives of the Great (White) Race or Rasichy lived. In those days the representatives of White Humanity were the first who occupied and rendered habitable the Midguard-land.

Ancestral home of our many ancestors is the solar system with the Golden Sun in the Hall of Race. The clans of White people living on the lands in the given solar system, call it as Dazhdbog-sun (the modern name – Beta of the Lion or Danebola). It is called as the Yarogreat Golden Sun, it is brighter as for light stream radiation, size and mass, than the Yarylo-sun.

Inguard-land rotates around the Golden Sun, the cycle time of which is 576 days. The Inguard-land has two Moons: the Big Moon with a cycle time of 36 days and the Small Moon with a cycle time of 9 days. There is the biological life on the Inguard-land similar to the life on the Midguard-land in the Golden Sun system.

In one of the fights of the second Great Assa on the above-stated Boundary the spaceship Waitmara transporting immigrants – including ones from the Inguard-land, was damaged and had to land on the Midguard-land. Waitmara landed on the northern continent, which was called as star travellers Daarija (the Gift of Gods, Gift to Ariyas).

There were representatives of four Clans of the allied Great Race Lands on Waitmara: Aryan Clans – х’Aryan and da’Aryan; Clans of Slavs – Rassens and Swatoruss. They were people with white skin, but had distinctions in growth, hair color, iris color and blood group.

Da’Aryans had silver (gray, steel) color of eyes and light-brown, almost whitish hair. Х’Aryans possessed green color of eyes and light-brown hair. Swatoruss had sky-blue (blue, cornflower-blue, lake-blue) color of eyes and hair from whitish to chestnut-colored. Rassens had fiery (brown, light brown, yellow) eyes and chestnut-colored hair. Color of eyes depends on what Sun shined for people of these Clans at their native Lands during their evolution. Aryans differed from Swatoruss and Rassens also by the fact that they were able to distinguish where false information was (Krivda) and where the Truth was. It was connected by the fact that Aryans had the fight experience with Dark Forces, protecting their Lands.

The part of crew departed after Waitmara’s repair and the part remained on the Midguard-land as they liked the planet, and terrestrial children were born. Those, who remained on the Midguard-land, began referring to as Asies. Asies – the descendants of Heavenly Gods living on the Midguard-land. And the territory of their further moving began referring to as Asiya (later – as Asia) since originally it was occupied by Asies. The names “Rasseniya”, “Rasychy” appeared after their settling.

Then White Race people resettlement from the Inguard-land to the Midguard-land, Daarija followed. The people moved to the Midguard-land remembered about their ancient ancestral home and called themselves as “Dazhdbog grandsons’’, i.e. descendants of those Great Race Clans who lived under Dazhdbog-sun aureole. Living people at the Midguard-land were called as Great Race, and the people stayed at the Inguard-land were called as Ancient Race.

The people with various color of skin and the certain territory of residing live at the Midguard-land. Terrestrial humanity has ancestors which arrived to the Midguard-land at different times from various Heavenly Halls and have the following skin color: Great Race – white; Great Yellow Dragon – yellow; Fiery Snake (Red Sacred Fire) – red; Great Dragon – black; Pekelny World – gray.

Allies of White Race in fight with Forces of Darkness were the People from the Hall of the Great Yellow Dragon. They were allowed to settle at the Land, having defined a place in the Southeast, at the Yaryla-sun rising. It is modern China.

They defined the place at the land in the Western (Atlantic) ocean to other ally, the people from the Hall of Fiery Snake. Subsequently, with the arrival of the Great Clans Race to them, this Land began referring to as Antlan, i.e. the Land of Antovs. Ancient Greeks called it as Atlantis. Red-skinned people were moved on Waitmaras to the American continent after Antlan destruction 13 thousand years ago.

The Great Country of Black People property covered not only the African continent during ancient times, but also a part of Hindustan. Once Rusichy rescued a part of people with black color of skin, perishing at various Lands in the Gloomy Heathland Halls, destroyed by the forces of Darkness, their resettlement to the African continent and India. Then they rescued a part of Black People from the destroyed planet Daya.

All people above-mentioned have one genotype though differ with color of skin.

The enemy of Great Race and other Races at the Midguard-land are the representatives of Pekelny World, secretly penetrated to the Midguard-land. They are called as Strangers in Vedas, and places of their primary dwelling are called as Hell. As Vedas specify, they had gray skin, eyes of the Gloom color, they created various false religious cults. They coveted ill-gotten. All their ideas were only about power. The purpose of Strangers was to break the harmony reigning in the World of Light and destroy Descendants of the Heavenly Clan and Great Race as only they can give them worthy repulse.

(Grays are what we know of today as the classic ‘alien gray’)

Also in Vedic culture there are no ‘chosen people’ of God as in Judaism, whether Jew, African, Aryan, Asian, Indian, whatever, everyone has the potential for spiritual development, nor has/did zionism, nazism, communism, socialism, democracy etc have anything to do with it, nor is it a ‘religious institution’ or a ‘civilization’. Those types of thought forms are cleansed from Earth in Day of Svarog.

HappyPotter
05-02-2013, 09:54 AM
Also here is a ‘basic’ Yaga meditation for anyone that may be interested.

The thought process (it's material, therefore vulnerable) - THIS CREATION ARE YOU own thoughts form.

Thought Forms - THIS IS YOUR MIRROR SKRITI (unconscious) of Crete.

YOUR thought forms - is your friend and this is also your enemy - if not controlled.

Awareness and management of its own thought-forms (SKRITE) IS BEGIN PROCESS To Change The turning in the opposite direction - from the "acceptance" and "recognized" Matrix Thinking in modern society.

A change of mind is possible only when LEARNING SELF (essence) of the Terms "total silence" of the mind, for the mind - THIS IS NOT a creator of thought-forms, but neurons "calculator" - what it includes OUTSIDE -

IN MOST CASES Individuals assume (think) that EXTEND "outside" thought-form - this is the product of his own mind, WHEREAS it is "recycled waste" someone SKRITI (This definition is "MIM").



FIRST STEP TO variables - through the day without a word.

The second step to change - through the day without a single word, but with contemplation FLOW HIS THOUGHTS

THIRD STEP INTO VARIABLE - live a day without a single word, but with the contemplation of his thought FLOW and identified FLOW

STEP FOUR to change - through the day without a single word, but with the contemplation of the flow of his Thoughts and determine the source of a certain volume of flow and the flow source

STEP FIVE to change - through the day without a single word, but with the contemplation of the flow of his Thoughts and determine the source of a certain volume of flow and the flow source - gradual decline in volume of flow sources

The sixth step to change - through the day without a single word, but with contemplation FLOW his thought, and gradually closing the stream source

The seventh step to change - through the day without a word, not contemplating the flow of his THOUGHTS

EIGHTH STEP INTO VARIABLE - live a day without a word, and all sorts of inner contemplation, studying the colors, sounds, and forms of the world (as a child)

Ninth Step to change - through the day listening only SILENCE

And now ... Complete silence - to the full opportunity to enjoy ALL colors and shapes are alive

PROCESS OF THE FOREGOING WILL SHOW YOU ENJOY ... You can use on an - 999 - three times in 9 steps...

WHEREAS, every planet in the Solar System Torit "TOR" (has a special set of overtones, vibration-frequency hum - BECAUSE own spin on DARK MATTER SPACE), in total silence, when stopping Flowing thoughts, you can hear the (inner) Overtones celestial sphere (we do not live in the vacuum of space as it is accepted to understand) - all organs of the human body MEET overtones "Tori" that reproduce the celestial body, - the "deeper" your inner silence, the "ON" is heard.

The process of "hearing" (silence) PREVENTS CONSTANTLY Flowing Thought forms of man, but to learn to "hear" from the practice of control of "infusing" the stream of thought forms in the ownership…

All "mess" is "mess" till we attached to it emotionally. This is the perception of everything in life "to be wrong". You have to detach yourself from "mess" emotionally and look at it from the side like observer, not participating in it.

We simply learn how to stop the thoughts flow or thoughts process and learn how to achieve a complete silence in ourselves like a “planet in the universe”, (this is also the Tibetan school for meditation).

Listen to your inner self (observe your breathing, your frequency) and listen all thoughts forms and their production (creation) will seize in you. So then you will start to teaching yourself about You (Self; Selbe).

This way the inner peace will be achieved (and practically experienced). Then you will learn how to control your thoughts and thought process when triggers from outside are applied - what should be allowed to go through your head and what should be not (immune) in regard to all circumstances that trigger emotions in daily life.

One victory person can achieve in this life is the victory with emotional self which is ego. Only after ability to silence what is not needed in your ego you will be able to completely control everything what happening outside of you...and "mess" will seize to exist for you as the real Observer.

Apparent SILENCE OF THE UNIVERSE - THIS telepathic "Gilgal" (verb) gods ...

HappyPotter
05-05-2013, 01:09 PM
I know this is an English speaking forum but for anyone that may interested there are other researchers away from the guys I learnt from that also know about the Slavic Vedas (runes) that believe the story of Jesus was a rip off from Radomir killed in 1086 in Constantinopol, however this film is only in Russian guys http://rateh.ru/radost-mira

The film - a short story about the real life and tragic death of the most famous man on Earth. Here are collected the facts that shed light on the true story of the life and death of Radomir, which for centuries we have known by the name of Jesus Christ. The film shows the incontrovertible evidence that Radomir was killed not 2,000 years ago, however in the 11th century AD.

In the Gospel which was repeatedly edited in the past, the solar eclipse and the earthquake which ostensibly has occurred within 3 hours after death of Jesus Christ on Golgotha is mentioned. Today it is precisely established that at that time in that place of these natural phenomena was not and could not be. But these phenomena have been fixed in Constantinople in the 11th century AD. Thanks to it, it was possible to find and other proofs of that Radomir's ritual execution has been made in Constantinople in 1086 AD.

Churchmen indefatigably repeat to us that the Christianity is ostensibly spiritual food, religion for rescue of souls of all Mankind. Actually, the Christianity is a mental poison, of the people, breaking the will, killing reason and turning them in ignorant and obedient slaves.

Us accustomed to that a Christian holiday Easter is a celebrating of revival of Jesus Christ after cruel execution. Actually, Pesah is a Judaic holiday which automatically joined in all religions made from a Judaism, including in Christianity.

We should get used for a long time already to that Dionysus's cult – a kind holiday without debauchery, without an excessive libation of wine and without orgies. Actually Dionysus's sack is the dark religion which was taking root in Russia by fire and a sword. In the Middle Ages it renamed into Christianity.

It is considered well-known that the Crusades organized by Sacred Papacy, had the purpose revenge to those who crucified «Christian god» Jesus Christ. However, gangsters mercenaries which began to name "crusaders" much later, went Rome only on destruction of the people opposing to a violent christening and enslavement.

Churchmen name Radomir (Jesus Christ) that God, the Lord, the God's son, granted to us for expiation of our sins and so forth. In reality Radomir was the person of white race with very high level of evolutionary development. He has really been sent by Magicians to Jews to try to pull out these people from paws of hierarches of Powers of darkness.

The Christianity does not cease to teach the sheep that if you are unfortunate, poor and sick, it means that God loves you. You should to suffer, to resist everything to violence and to all to forgive. Actually all this is the sheer deceit. To be convinced of it, it is enough to look on "God's servants” and to estimate the sizes and their income of "religious corporation» – the biggest in the World of gang of liars, thieves and murderers.

However this is a story on Radomir and his family in “English” http://www.levashov.info/English/About-Svet/about-22-eng.html

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Some charts on the end of the “Time of the Torah” (year 2090) as mentioned in a previous post.

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A little on the archaeological findings of the city of God Krishna (Dwarka, meaning Door) if anyone hasn’t come across this discovery yet. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tq71v9rbcY

THE ARCTIC HOME IN THE VEDAS By Lokamanya Bâl Gangâdhar Tilak http://www.vaidilute.com/books/tilak/tilak-contents.html

For anyone that can understand Russian or for anyone that just wants to check it out, here is some actual pictures as well as info of the (runic) Vedas (Славяно-Арийские веды) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-YWVSppwEg


This series of film is about Slavic Aryan Vedas and current world government (NWO) suppression has English subtitles; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpK5n4kaLGg

HappyPotter
05-08-2013, 05:48 AM
A little info on Dwarka ("Dvarka" "Dveri, Dverke" which means "Doors" (originally "Gates" (star gates) of Krishna...

As well as some random notes on Krishna.

DWARKA: ANTEDILUVIAN CIVILIZATION XVIII - CITY OF KRISHNA

NOTE 1: In Slavic Aryan Vedic - DWAR' ) means DOOR and DWARKA ) means MANY DOORS or by simple transliteration - THE GATEWAY - in all modern languages. DWAR is not Hindu word and it does not have the neuro-lingual container-meaning in Sanskrit unless it explained with Slavic Aryan Runic. The word is in use even today in modern Russian language. HISTORY: Krishna chose a remote location, far beyond the reach of Jarasandh. He picked distant Dwarka on the western coast of India, far from Mathura, and spent a year putting his plans into action. He built on the sunken remains of a previous kingdom, Kushasthali, which itself was built on older ruins, all underwater in antediluvian time, before 12,000 BC. Krishna reclaimed a hundred miles of land from the sea and called in Vishwakarman, the architect of the gods to give him a city that was the envy of the world. In Mahabharata's Musal Parva, the Dwarka is mentioned as being gradually swallowed by the ocean. Krishna had forewarned the residents of Dwarka to vacate the city before the sea submerged it. The Sabha Parva gives a detailed account of Krishna's flight from Mathura with his followers to Dwarka to escape continuous attacks of Jarasandh's on Mathura and save the lives of its subjects. Today Dwarka is a coastal town in Jamnagar district of Gujarat. Traditionally, modern Dwaraka is identified with Dvaraka or Dvaravati, mentioned in the Mahabharata as Krishna's city. Dwarka was a port, and some scholars have identified it with the island of Barka mentioned in the Periplus of Erythrean Sea.

Ancient Dwarka sank in sea and hence is an important archaeological site. The idea is not to go in the discussion of how the city went under the sea but the fact is that this city is now approximately under water of the Arabian sea some 135 feet below water. This city has been mentioned in the Mahabharata and that this city has been found, dated, and mapped. The probable date of this city is between 9500 to 7500 years before present which will put it as 7500 to 5500 years BC (but built on the ruins that predate 12,000 BC). Mahabharata was not a fictional epic but a reality is also evident from the works of many scholars who have done extensive work in this area, and by getting all the facts together what comes out of the whole is the fact that the near about exact dates of the major happenings in the epic has also been identified. This at least proves that the Vedic civilization is a much older phenomenon than perceived by many western scholars till date.

There is a striking inscription which has been found in the Jain Temple at Aihole prepared by one Chalukya King Pulakeshi. It says, according to scholars, that the temple was constructed in 30+3000+700+5 = 3735 years, after the Bharat War and 50+6+500 = 556 years of Shaka Era in Kali Era. Today Shaka Era is 1910. Hence 1910- 556 = 1354 years ago the temple was constructed. Thus the year of inscribing this note is 634 AD. At this time 3735 years had passed from the Bharat War. So the date of the War comes to 3101 BC. This is also the date of Kali Yuga Commencement. Naturally, it is evident that relying on the beginning of Kali Yuga Era and holding that the War took place just before the commencement of Kali Yuga, The verses has been interpreted by considering the clauses of the verse. It says "3030 years from the Bharat War" in the first line, (Trinshatsu Trisahasreshu Bhaaratdahavaaditaha) where the first clause of the sentence ends. In the second line, the second clause starts and runs up to the middle of the third line thus (Saptabda.....Kalaukale). This means 700+5+50 = 755 years passed in the Kali Era. It is clear from the former portion of the verse that 3030 years passed from the Bharat War and 755 years passed from Kali Era. Kali Era started from 3101 BC. 755 years have passed, so 3101-755 = 2346 BC is the year when 3030 years had passed from the Bharat War. So 2346+3030 = 5376 BC appears to be the date of Bharat War. Megasthenis, according to Arian, has written that between Sandrocotus to Dianisaum 153 generations and 6042 years passed. From this data, we get the average of 39.5 years per king of Indian Dynasties. From this we can calculate 5451 years for 138 generations. So, Krishna must have been around 5771 BC Pliny gives 154 generations and 6451 years between Bacchus & Alexander. This Bacchus is the famous Bakasura (OSIRIS) who was killed by Bhimasena. This period comes to about 6771 years BC. Thus Mahabharata period ranges from 5000 BC to 6000 BC and Dwarka fits into this scenario perfectly. NOTE 2: By Slavic Aryan Vedic calendar today is year 7518 since the Creation of the Peace in Star Temple - during or after the Great War with Bacchus [Osirian] invaders-crossbreeds). From year 7518 deduct 2009 = year 5408 BC the date of The Great War or Bharat - in Slavic Aryan) and Slavic Aryan recorded date fits perfectly with Mahabharata Sanskrit text.





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Some random notes on God Krishna,

Many of hebraic and christian biblical & torahical "minds" were taken/stolen from old slavic "paganism" and their books. So we "switched" into artificial "era of jewish, islamic, christian "god" from antique; as far as the libraries of ancient history were completely destroyed! After baptism in Dark Middle bloody ages all this "pagan thing"(tradition, celebrations) was carried into Christian tradition, Gods became Saints, and new icons replaced the old ones. Books were destroyed (last "pagan" libraries were destroyed in 1917 - in Russia in so called "October revolution", where also Book of Veles was found, later stolen, destroyed and proclaimed as a "forgery". Osirian (Abrahamic - Anti Brahmanic) cult took over the original Vedanta in Egypt, Chaldea, Israel, Ethiopia, Byzantium, Sumeria, and Russia ... it absorbed old - "pagan" knowledge and added their own "revelations". Kabbalah is perversion of Aryan Chaldean gnostics and implementation into Yahwistic (Osirian) Matrix...

That's why jewish "pasha" - "pass over or exodus from egypt" comes also from old slavic "pasha or paska" - pass over from north - and arrival into arkaim as "exodus"...or celebration of Easter (easter means that goths called the "tradition from the east") - or "Great night", Uskrs .Krsnut in old slavic means "to enliven" and Krst-na(Krishna) "incarnated god". Old Tartaria was old Russia, Siberia; S'Ib'Arya, Shiva-Raja; shivait land. We are talking about Asia; old Scynthia/Great Tartaria (land of Tara and Tarkh (Thor).

"Krishenj"'s second name was also "Hristna". His name still means "the enliven one" in Hebrew known as "greek "Anointed one" and in Hindu "etymology" known as "black, cream", this is pure occult nonsense about "Anointed one" and "Creamy one" and "Black one" - regards to Krishna. Vishnu, Shiva, Brahma are not original Sanskrit words, and less Hindu, but old Slavic. Hindu "brahmins" ignorantly try to claim that also "Krishna" means "black" and other nonsense, when Krishna was derived only from Slavic Vedic "Hristna" - "incarnated one".

Krishna means INCARNATED ONE - TWICE BORN ONE - ENLIVEN ONE. "Krishna" is not Sanskrit's term at all, but Slavic. Sanskrit was created around 5000 Bc, when Russia was still part of Scynthian aryan territory. 7 white Rishis brought Rg Veda to Saraswati. (“Rg Veda” also means “Reg Veda, or Rek Veda, RekVeda” (Rheti, Rhechi = “to speak”; “Rek” – “People who speak – Rheti”).

"Hristna" (Krishna) - was to Egypt brought as Osiris's KRST. But Osiris(Ausar) was Indian demon(he had half human, half reptilian - alien DNA) Asura (=Bakasura = greek Bacchus = new "Yehowa"= "Lord of the dead") and became "resurrection of Osiris's DEAD body (compare with new cult of Christianity - as "dead body of christ - when came back to LIFE) over his fake son Horus (slavic "pagan" god "Hors" or Svetovid...) Christ existed before "Christ's birth" - and was not to old Slavs foreign at all. "Kristna, Krishna, Christ, Krist-us" has no other meaning than "incarnated god", comes from old Slavic term "krstnut, uskrs, vaskrs, krst" - "incarnation, to enlive..."

Jesus Christ is a biblical version of: Egyptian Horus, Vedic Krishna, Slavic Kresnik, Svarozich + cult of Svetovid, MythRa. Jesus (as a Aryan man, Deva, Horus); killed by the Semitic parasites of the Cult of Osiris, Adonis / Aton /Adonai) became the "salvation"; to trap souls into the realm of Osiris; Astral (lowest realm) to deny the existence of reincarnation. Christ came from Egyptian Krst Osiris-Horus.; but Egyptian original cult was Mehet Weret of Hathor & Ma'at (Makosh Svarga), "son" was Heru (which is XOPC; "it rises in the east and is going down in the west") and his "father" was Ra; which is Vedic Rama (Brahma). Later was Vedic Egyptian (Egypt was originally only Chaldean (Sumerian) province) of Ma-Hor-Ra Trinity assimilated into Asura(Osiris)-Horus(as his FAKE son)-Isis(Aryan goddess also).

Ptah (Ptak, Ptach, Ptich, TIch,...) was "bird" (phoenix) PERUN, Cross is symbol of God Perun and was later perverted in Byzantine empire into something that we today know as cross of Christ. Egyptian Mehet Weret = Makosh/Mokosh Svarga; where Ma or Mat became Ma'at or Ma and Kosh (flood) became Hoth; Hathor; Mehurt. Shu was "risen one" (Vishnu) - from which derived "Jesus"(partially). Hathor(Astarte) was also wife of Baal (runic as Vaal). Vaal = Bull or taurus (Veles, Volos, Vol(Bull) yes); YHWH is not a name of "god", but a name of Ba'al & Hors cycles in realm called YAV(material). YHWH is a tetragrammaton(Swastika) "YHWH", IHVVH, IUVV (as generally written) was(originally) NOT a "god", but Astronomical Aryan cycle or "Tetragrammaton", which is Swastika or Milky Way (Astarte,Ostara, Mokosh, Hathor), and nothing else. Mehet Weret (the golden Egyptian cow that Osiris's priest Moses/Osarphys forbade) was second name for Swastika). Swastika was representing originally Galaxy (swastika("Swasti-Teka" as "shine" and "tika" as tekat' - "to run in cyclic acceleration"). It was ancient Slavic Aryan symbol of Swarun or Swarog. Swasti means "to shine, to glow" and Swarit means "to boil, to cook under high pressure, temperature". MeheTH (flood - the Nile in the sky - Milky way) was derived from runic MokoSH (as Ethiopia; from Thebe - Sheba.Shiva; Saba, Sava, Slava) Ra as Rama. To later Jews known as YHWH. In fact this was Slavic (Shivait) Aryan code and it was representing Yav ( later Hebrew perversion of Yaw) means material realm, Hors (as slavic aryan god XOPC (and later Egyptian deity Horus) representing father's (Ra's tears) or Wadjet (slavic Vidjet' - "to see"). Vaal (or Baal - Vool - Vol *bull = Taurus constellation) 4. letter Vaal and Hors, Baal became YHWH and YHWH became a forbidden god in Torah (Leningrad Codex). Why? Because YHWH is an Aryan stolen Astronomical cycle, pantheon of god Veles or Vaal (Baal in runic) too...And Baal had a wife called Astarte or Ostara or Hathor or Mokosh; rune H represents little cycle in Yav (material); cycles of Scynthian god Hors (Slavic god Hors or Horo), or Svetovid (The all seeing one), which became known as Heru or Hor (Horus) in Egypt. Whole (Shivait) cult was eliminated with Osirianism / cult of Asuras & Nagas. Hebrews did not "worship" Ba'al - ever. Baal is an occult perversion to pure Aryan name of the deity of generosity, fertility, etc; It is Russian/Slavic/Scynthian god VELES, VOL(BULL), VAAL, VEEL, VOOL, and nothing else.
Astarte was wife of YHWH (Cycles of Baal or Veles (Taurus), which literally meant "Bull"). Original Semitic "YHWH" was a "god" Osiris (Ausar) or Asura (Vedic demon) or Bakasura or Bacchus. He was from "Nagas" (NAV, NIFLheim, Duat, "heaven"(hell) world. Moses was Osiris's priest. Bible derived from Sumerian (Saurian) Genesis, other "stories" from Avestan (oral Vedic) teachings and Egyptian & Phoenician cults... Created ones have stolen the Aryan Vedic teach. and Aryan pantheon and used it against Shivait Vedic people themselves; so was hidden the meaning of El-Aum (Elohm)or AUM (OM) with parasitical ending of Saurian (non human, alien) form or EL (Anunnaki). YHWH is old Shivait (old Slavic) Vedic pantheon. YHWH (it is not a "Hebrew god"), but a Tetragrammaton (Svastika in Hexagonic star("Star of David" - "Merkaba"), cube; the 9 dimensions of the Universe (DEV - DEUS ("ZEUS") DEV(I)ET (9) - DEVA - DEVUSHKA - DEVICA - world of YAGA DREVO/TREE = YGGDRASIL)); Y is YAV world (material) H is Pleiades or Hors in the Horizon, V is Vaal or Baal/VELES or Taurus constell.; all repr. so called "Astronomical cycle". That's why there is NO GOD "YHWH" and is "FORBIDDEN”. There isn’t any "god" in form of Nagas - crossbreeds teachings.

When "Krstna" ("incarnated god" - every pharaoh was LIVING WHITE GOD HORUS IN MATERIAL REALM ) became "Osiris's Krst" and Horus as his fake son... The cult was by Levites (as Moses was - he was Osiris's priest) brought by Hyksos ("jews") Semites to Byzantium and became known as "Krist-os" (Christ)...

Hebrews (hybreeds, h'ibi'uru -adapa /adapa) were sacrificing their children to their deity which in fact they never knew; called Asura, Osiris or Dark Kali Ma (cult of Eve)... Judaism, Islam, Christianity is modern Osirianism (Asura). Cult of Kali Ma; brought from Kashmir (near India); Kashmir was the so called 1. Garden of Eden, where human and non human crossbreeding was performed, 2. Eden became Kush (as "start of humanity"; in occult Torah) - 3th became Sumeria and 4th Egypt...All Gardens were destroyed completely by Aryan (Shivait) clans, only Egyptian colony of Osiris survived - the cult of death spread all over the world.
And term "HRS" (XPC) is "cycle" from which derives Scynthian (old Slavic) god Hors (Horus) and (k)Hrstna is "INCARNATED / ENLIVEN ONE GOD INTO FLESH AND BLOOD(from above)... this is not Sanskrit, Hebrew, Greek, Hindu, Persian, Phoenician, Akkadian word, but old Slavic(Scynthian Aryan, Hyperborean). The word was derived into Egyptian Krst (twice born one) and was absorbed into the Cult of Death - Osirianism; from which derived "modern Christianity.." Christianity, Islam and Judaism was all forced to old "Slavs" (Veneti, Antes, Sclavenes, Scynthians) to enslave their spirit (mind and history).
Egyptian dynasties did not start 3600 BCE with Menes, but cca 23 500 BCE with Ptah (="bird", phoenix god Perun), 1440 years of Ptah's dynasties. Berosos and Manetho are both giving names of Antediluvian dynasties, counting them from Great Flood (cca 12 000 BCE); Sumerian dynasty that's why did not start 400 000 BCE, but 31 280 BCE also... Here we dealing with human (Aryan) dynasties, not with Anunnaki, Osirian ones. Osirianism (modern Osirianism is Islam, Christianity and Judaism) opposes Aryanism-Shivaism. That's why we are dealing with the doctrines of Created ones (Adapa-Adam) of Abrahm(Anti Brahman) vs Brahman (Born ones). Set and Osiris are 1 AND THE SAME ENTITY (IN ASTRAL) - in earliest Egypt were known as non-important deities of lower world called Hell (Duat). Osirianism (modern Osirianism is Islam, Christianity and Judaism) opposes Aryanism-Shivaism. That's why we are dealing with the doctrines of Created ones (Adapa-Adam) of Abrahm(Anti Brahman) vs Brahman (Born ones). The only difference between Abrahamic and Brahmanic (Aryan Vedic) doctrines are opposite teachings of the Created ones vs Born ones; A'Braham(Anti Brahman; Original sin) vs Brahman (Kama Sutra)...
Krishna, known as Kresnik or Kersnik and his "flying golden coach" - Vimana, fighting against "Queen of the snakes " (Nagas) and his origin and life on mount Meru. "Krishna", Kresnik; Kres is a bonfire (in Sweden is Hres - fire & Veda is there Veta). Kresnik "lives in 9th land (=Yiggdrasil;( Yaga Tree) in his crystal castle. He had golden hair and is flying on a golden chair (Vimana), fighting against Queen of snakes".

Vedanta was about original faith and knowledge called Veda - their ancestors were gods, who developed after they've passed away (on other planets) into higher dimensional beings; we live in Yav, higher is Slav, Prav and much higher is Brahma - Krishna can incarnate over Shivait (Slav) realm into Yav (material) - from above- That's why he was always called "Incarnated one" - Hrstna. Known as Ra (Rama/Brahma), Vishnu (or Slavic Vishji "the one who is high") and Shiva (or slavic Zhiva, Djiva; means "life" - the life giver, soul giver...) This is the concept of Aryanism. The Slavic and Hindu Aryan Trinity (later bacame semitic origin of Isis, Osiris and Hor as Osiris's fake son or today as God, Jesus, Holy spirit).

Regards to "Brahma" - it comes from Brama or "doors" - other words for Doors (gates into higher existence) - are Dvarka, Dveri, Dverke, Duri (Door), Brama, Kalitka, Vrata, dVarata, etc, etc...Shiva means originally "life" and "sew" (Shivat),... it represents a "life" and "death"- reticulum of Vishnu - "The one who is high" - his Tree (Vishnja) - this is all universe with universes (Brahmas) - blooms on Vishnja tree. Vishnu, Shiva, Brahma are not original Sanskrit words, and less Hindu, but old Slavic. ALL "Hindu" (Sanskrit is NOT Hindu, Pali, Kirata, Bengali... but was "assimilated" later into Aryan substratum) "gods" have ONLY Slavic (Shivait) NEURO LINGUAL CONTAINERS. There is no meaning of Vishnu, Rudra, Shiva, Brahma, Krishna, etc, etc meanings today in Hindu than Slavic. All so called "Hindu" gods have a meaning in current Slavic (and also Lithuanian) languages (partially also in other "Indo-European") : Vishnu,Shiva,Brahma,Krishna,Ru*dra,Agni,... are NOT Hindu gods, but transliterations (versions) in Sanskrit. And "KRST" (Christ)(Krishna)(Krst Horus) derived from Aryan root XPC (cycle), Krs or Hrs; from where "Hor" comes from and [K]Hrs-Na ("incarnated on"(flesh)); verb "krstnut. Uskrs,... remained until today (ignored by "linguists"). Hare Hara Rama(=Ra or Brahma; "Incarnation, Incarnated one - Rama (Horus, Krishna). Biblical (Semitic) version is Jesus Kristos. Hindus have perverted many roots; including transliterations of Vedas. Because ORIGINAL VEDANTA came from Aryans - their alphabet was transmuted partially from runic into Sanskrit Vedanta in Saraswati banks, Aryan Rishis wrote Vedas in Sanskrit; which arrived (with Exodus) from Da’Aria. Of course Hindus will claim that his is not true, who would not.

HappyPotter
05-13-2013, 05:03 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yB0OXc6LnN4

BAALBEK: - THE HOUSE OF BA'AL


BAALBEK is the site divided into two parts THE EARLIER BUILT TEMPLE OF BAAL (named by Romans TEMPLE OF JUPITER), WHICH IS THE ORIGINAL TEMPLE and THE LATER BUILT BACCHUS TEMPLE ON THE SAME SITE. TWO TEMPLES THE BAAL TEMPLE (JUPITERS TEMPLE) WAS BUILT IN ANTEDILUVIAN TIME BY ARYANS-SIVAITS-SHIVAITS (THE PRESENCE OF THE ARYAN SWASTIKA SYMBOL IN THE TEMPLES ORNAMENTATION), BEFORE ~12,000 BC & BACCHUS TEMPLE WHICH WAS BUILT ON THE SITE OF THE TEMPLE OF BAAL MUCH LATER, AROUND ~7000-3500 BC BY OSIRIANS (OSIRIS IS BACCHUS). 2. THE DETAILS OF THE HUGE CLASH OF TWO RELIGIONS: OLD FAITH ARYAN SHIVAISM-SIVAISM & LATER INVAIDING OSIRIANISM IS VISIBLE IN BACCHUS TEMPLE ADDITION TO THE MAIN TEMPLE OF BAAL - CLOSE ATTENTION MUST BE PAID TO THE SYMBOLS IN THE BACCHUS TEMPLE, ESPECIALLY TO THE SYMBOL OF MERKABA (STAR OF DAVID) WITH THE APPEARANCE OF THE SAURIAN IN IT (THIS IS THE KEY ELEMENT) http://ulis.liveforums.ru/uploads/0005/b3/1d/14485-5-f.jpg http://ulis.liveforums.ru/uploads/0005/b3/1d/14486-2-f.jpg http://ulis.liveforums.ru/uploads/0005/b3/1d/14486-3-f.jpg http://ulis.liveforums.ru/uploads/0005/b3/1d/14488-1-f.jpg

All previous shots were taken from this portico on the columns above in Bacchus-Osiris Temple inside the Baal Temple in Baalbek. Guides don't like to talk about them if you ask. These pictures are not advertised in any library on architecture because of the obvious relic of the Bacchus "mysteries" that were held in the Temple of Bacchus (Vakha, Vachoris, Busiris or Osiris). The mentioned "mysteries" were pretty understandable, - the priests of the temple knew about astral conjunction and live tunnels between the realm of Nav' (from here is the meaning of "Hebrew" Navin - in Slavic would be known as ONE WHO IS FROM REALM OF NAV') and the realm of YAV' (material world).

On the picture is shown the moment of the appearance of the Saurian entity otherwise called as NAGA-HA-NACHASH or servant of the Shining One. Initiated say that those appearing on the picture are of the lower "grade" servants to the "Masters" who are not necessarily willing to manifest themselves in flesh in the realm of NAV'.

Also as seen on the picture, Saurian is inside the alleged "merkaba", former symbol of Veles-Ba'al which became later on "The Star' of David" (Davyd). The same principals of access and communication to/with astral realm were practiced by Levites who were servants of NCHSH - MASTERS...


. 4. BAALBECK WAS NOT BUILT BY ROMANS - THE ROMAN INVOLVEMENT IN THE BUILDING OF BAALBECK IS PURE FALCIFICATION OF THE HISTORY BY ARCHEOLOGISTS & HISTORIANS. 5. ROMANS BORROWED BAALS TEMPLE ARCHITECTURAL STYLE COMPLETELY & INTEGRATED IT IN THEIR ARCHITECTURE. 6. SUMERIAN SAURIAN DEITIES HAVE ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH BAALBEK. 7. THE TEMPLE OF BAAL IS THE PLACE WHERE THE STORY OF THE FORCEFULL CROSSBREEDING BEETWEEN HUMANS (ARYANS-SHIVAITS) & OSIRIANS-SAURIANS IS ENGRAVED IN STONE ARCHITECTURE ITSELF IN BOTH THE TEMPLE OF BAAL (ZEUS-JUPITER) & BACCHUS (OSIRIS) TEMPLE. THE HISTORY OF LORD BAAL: In order to understand what Baalbek is all about, we have to understand WHO WAS THE LORD BAAL.

The story of BAAL starts in Constellation of TAURUS (BULL ), which by Slavs Aryans is considered to be their original home from where they were SEEDED on this planet (as well as other star systems). Word BAAL is transliteration of Slavic Aryan word () SLAVIC ARYAN GOD that always had a title LORD, which literally means BULL. (CALF made its way into a Torah much later), - in English Slavic Aryan word will sound as [VEEL] from here is the meaning of the word BAAL, where Slavic Aryan letter B sounds the same as English V. LORD BAAL was the LORD of prosperity, health, the keeper of the gate between material ( YAV) and non-material NAV & PRAV) worlds. That is why Aryans always performed rites of the LORD BAALS DEPARTURE at the end of the year and APPEARENCE at the beginning of the new coming year - and they always built temples in his name.

Later on Osirian PRIESTS-CROSSBREEDS encoded Baals name in Tetragrammaton YHWH (Greek IHVH) with the prohibition to pronounce THE NAME and claims that correct pronunciation of Gods name is lost with time. NO, IT IS NOT. The pronunciation of [YHWH] is YAVEE - and is an exact pronunciation of the Slavic Aryan word which means THE VISIBLE MATERIAL WORLD. Much later the concept of Slavic Aryan (BAAL) was encoded and tabooed In TORAH and presented as YHWH by Osirian priests. NOTE 1: DECOMPOSITION OF YHWH: 1st letter Y in Slavic Aryan means [I am] or representation of the material visible world YAV in RUNES, the 2nd letter H is the 1st letter of the Slavic Aryan god HORS - THE KEEPER OF THE CYCLE OF THE ARRIVAL AND DEPARTURE OF GOD BAAL EVERY YEAR, the 3rd letter V (sometimes written as double V or W, which indicated also the cyclic nature of existence [in & out] if written as W in RUNES. Letter V is the first letter of the name BAAL (VAAL), where in Slavic Aryan it will be written as [] and in Aryan Runes would be represented as letter V with the small horns on a top of the letter, literally symbolizing THE HEAD OF THE BULL (CALF), and where Slavic Aryan letter ; sounds like V. The 4th letter H again represents the name of the Slavic Aryan god HORS, - THE KEEPER OF THE CYCLE OF THE APPEARANCE AND DISSAPEARENCE OF LORD GOD BAAL EVERY YEAR. Slavic Aryan HORS also is later Egyptian Horus. So, YHWH is encoded NAME OF BAAL. Y = IAM, H = HORS, V = BAAL ( BAALS CYCLE), and H = HORS or [Aryan ;XBX] is [Hebrew YHWH]. This is the shortest synopsis about the significance of BAALBEK and Temple of BAAL. Tetragrammaton was literally created from the PANTHEON of ancient SLAVIC ARYAN GODS and still remains encoded AS ONE HEBREW GOD. In reality - THERE IS NOTHING NEW UNDER THE SUN. EVERYTHING NEW IS WELL FORGOTTEN OLD.

NOTE 2: In Sanskrit texts word BALA (transliteration of BAAL) means STRENGTH & always used with the description of DEVA/RAMA (GOD), which is ONE OF THE NAMES FOR BAAL (VO'OL) or VELES.

Osiris, Bacchus, Dionysus, later Egyptian KRST and Christian Christ are one and the same personalities-archetypes. It is imperative to note that Osiris was not a lizard/dragon but lower grade CREATURE - in other words CROSSBREED of human and non-human DNA. That's all. and it really does not matter into what category you will put THE CREATURE, - he is the part of the deadly MATRIX of the astral machine called ASHTAR COLLECTIVE.



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Genotheism from Pleiades, Ursa Major, Ursa Minor, Denebola (Leo, Beta Leonis) etc.

V’s

Creationism, Evolutionism, Interventionism…

Few notes;

New genetic studies (10 years ago) indicated that all races did not come from Africa (out of Africa theory) - new theories indicated presence in Mesopotamia. But the newest are looking also into the far north. Darwinism is a great theory, correct in all claims about the evolution, but Universe (as a complex) is a machine of constant circles...

Darwinism with Interventionism is a substitute for Creationism; which is partially incorrect (also based on Sumerian, non human genesis). Both were “invented” to keep the human mind away from truth; IF x = … THEN Bible [Adam, Eve, Lilith, 12 Tribes of Israel] ELSE y. Array [Homo Erectus, Homo Neanderthal, If 1. option fails; then comes the “else” option… other Array (genotheism) does not exist. (“of course”)

There was no evolution of any race from each other nor from Homo Erectus, Homo Neanderthal, Lucy etc. Neanderthals were hybrid subjects, genetically produced experimental beings by Anunnaki or as American Indians called them “dragon gods”. They were successfully destroyed by Hyperboreans by cca 11 000 BC…

HappyPotter
05-14-2013, 01:53 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5idRxQhykVk



ANTEDILUVIAN CIVILIZATION - WHAT HAPPENED ON PHARAOHS LAND


RUSSIAN TEAM OF SCIENTISTS www.lah.ru EXAMINE NUMEROUS SITES IN EGYPT - SAKKARA, ABYDOS, GIZA, ETC. THE CONCLUSION OF RUSSIAN SCIENTIFIC TEAM: 1. MAJORITY OF ARTIFACTS IN SAKKARA, ABYDOS, GIZA - TEMPLES, STATUES, SARCOPHAGUSES, ETC HAVE ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH PHARAONIC DYNASTIES. MAJORITY OF COLOSSAL ARTIFACTS WERE NOT BUILT, ERECTED OR DESIGNED BY PHARAOHS WITH FAIRLY TECHNOLOGICALLY PRIMITIVE EGYPTIAN SOCIETY AT THAT TIME, EVEN THOUGH PHARAOHS USED TO HAVE TENDENCIES TO PUT THEIR CARTOUCHES ON EVERY ARTIFACT IN KHEMET. 2. SUPER TECHNOLOGIES OF A "COSMIC AGE" WERE USED IN CREATION OF THE ARTIFACTS IN SAKKARA, ABYDOS, GIZA, ETC. BY HIGH CIVILIZATION THAT EXISTED BEFORE DYNASTIC (PHARAONIC) EGYPT. 3. FACES OF MAJOR STATUES (OVER 1000+ TONS), INSCRIPTIONS, LETTERS & PICTURES ON STONES, STELLAES & WALLS, ETC. WERE DELIBERATELY DESTROYED BY SOMEONE FOR THE "UNKNOWN" REASONS. 4.SHAMEFUL PROHIBITION & DELIBERATE WIDE SPREAD CONCEALMENT OF ALL ARCHEOLOGICAL ARTIFACTS BY MODERN ARCHEOLOGISTS & EGYPTIAN AUTHORITIES - THE VISIBLE FINISHED CUTS, TRACES & MARKS & STONE PROCESSING BY USE OF SUPER TECHNOLOGIES. TRACES, MARKS & PATTERNS OF MASHINING, - ENORMOUS DIAMETER CIRCULAR SAWS CUTS, TUBULAR DRILL CUTS, DRILLED HOLES BY DIAMOND EMBEDED DRILLBITS, LARGE DIAMETER CIRCULAR CUTS 1MM THICK IN STONE BY SAW, HOLES & MARKINGS MADE BY ULTRASONIC TUBULAR DRILLBITS, PLASMA MOLDING & LASER PROCESSING OF THE HARDEST STONE SURFACES THAT EXIST IN THE AREA - QUARTZITE. NOTE 1: RUSSIAN TEAM WAS PROHIBITED FROM MAKING VIDEO FOOTAGES IN INTENTIONALLY CLOSED AREAS WITH MENTIONED ABOVE ARTIFACTS WHICH HAVE TRACES OF THE USE OF SUPER TECHNOLOGIES (EN).

Many areas were closed to visitors under the perception of "no need to know (for everyone)", for the fake safety reasons, under the guise of "archeological work is in process", or just closed for the unknown reasons. Team was able to visit a few hidden & "prohibited" places, where some measurements were taken and video material was collected. The leader of the team Andrei Skliarov expressed his emotions after all: I cant believe it, - that after so many years of conducted archeological work in Sakkara & Abydos, there is no one word was published about the enormous body of evidence about the super technologies used on these sites, especially in area of stone processing.

It is shame that Egyptologists, archeologists and different casts of scientists are deliberately closing their eyes, not willing to acknowledge and/or divulge all this information to the public. We cant lie to ourselves forever with the closed eyes. NOTE 2: After collecting images, video footages of artifacts with the traces & markings of super technologies used in Sakkara & Abydos, Giza, etc the team performed comparative analysis of the samples taken in Egypt to ones of the same kind on one of the largest stone cutting & processing high-tech facility in Moscow, Russia. The conclusion was astonishing: even with the current 21st century technologies we possess, it is extremely difficult and in some cases just not possible to match the level of sophistication that was used in stone processing & cutting at Sakkara, Abydos, Giza, etc sites, including technologies used during the construction of Osirion itself.

Using comparative analysis team determined that Sakkara & Abydos super technologies have exactly the same markings & cutting patterns that were found in Bolivia & Peru on sites of TIAHUANACO, SACSAHUAMAN, OLLANTAYTAMBO, MACHU PICCHU, and AXUM, ETHIOPIA. All this gathered information - from different sites all over the planet and especially Mesoamerica, Mesopotamia and Upper Africa suggests, - that it was antediluvian high developed civilization of Elder Gods that built all pyramids, temples & statues in Egypt also. Pharaohs were the ones who performed restoration and rebuilding work on all Egyptian artifacts which were left in ruins after the "War of Gods" NOTE 3: The "brain" of the Russian team is brilliant scientist Andrey Sklyarov, Ph.D and the "heart" of the team is Andrei Zhukov, Ph.D (History).

UNDER CLOSE INSPECTION IT WAS DETERMINED THAT MAJORITY OF THE PYRAMIDS WERE BUILT ON THE PREVIOUS BUNKERS (LATER CALLED MASTABAS) IN ANTEDILUVIAN TIME, BEFORE THE WAR OF GODS. TEAMS CONCLUSION: REBUILDING & RECONSTRUCTION OF PYRAMIDS BY PHARAOHS WAS A SPECIFIC WIDE SPREAD OPERATION FOR THE DISINFORMATION CAMPAIGN (AIMED FOR THE FUTURE CIVILIZATIONS) TO CONSEAL THE INFORMATION ABOUT THE ANTEDILUVIAN CIVILIZATION & ITS LEGENDARY WAR OF GODS.

NOTE 1: The Epoch of the Elder Gods of Egypt. The ancient Egyptians saw their culture as having been inherited directly from a divine race that existed thousands of years before the coming of the Pharaohs. For example, the fragmented Royal Papyrus of Turin, dating to the Nineteenth Dynasty, c. 1300 BC, contains a list of ten netjeru (Ptah, Ra, Shu, Geb, Asar, Set, Tehuti, Maat, and Heru) - a word simply meaning 'divinities' or gods - who reigned prior to the first kings of Egypt.

NOTE 2: In SLAVIC ARYAN RUNIC PTAH simply means BIRD or PERUN, MAAT means MOTHER with exactly the same pronunciation. Both words have the same neuro-lingual meaning even today in modern Russian. The ancient Egyptians also viewed the Giza necropolis as the 'Splendid Place of the First Time', quite literally the abode of the gods who had ruled their land during this misty epoch. More significantly, the hieroglyphic 'building' texts found on the walls at the Temple of Horus (IN SLAVIC ARYAN RUNIC HORUS IS SLAVIC ARYAN DEITY HORS) at Edfu in southern Egypt, tell us much about the activities of the Elder gods, the divine inhabitants, who inhabited the Nile Valley during the epoch of the First Time. Looking at the plateau today, with its desert back-drop and its striking sentinel-like pyramids, that cannot help but exude a stark sense of permanence, it is hard to imagine Giza any different. Yet the Edfu account, which was compiled from a series of now lost books attributed to the moon-god Thoth, enables us to construct a quite remarkable picture of how the Giza plateau might have looked over 28,000 - 12,000 years ago.

If we were to find ourselves a time-machine and travel back to this distant epoch the chances are that we would enter a hot, humid environment alive with lush green vegetation or the type you might find today in equatorial Africa. If the texts are to be believed, Giza apparently possessed a shallow lake, fed directly from the Nile itself. Such a supposition is not mere fantasy, for it is known that in past ages the river flowed much closer to the edge of the plateau, while evidence of a sacred lake and dock dated to Old Kingdom times have been found beyond the plateau's western limits. On the edge of this sacred lake were, it seems, tall djed-pillars, carved perhaps in dark stone, while standing close to the banks was an enclosure wall beyond which was a gleaming white temple known as the Mansion of Wetjeset-Neter, the 'place of reeds'. In the shallow waters was a small island, symbolizing the Point of First Creation, crowned with a simple stone structure that proclaimed its immense sanctity. This island is referred to in the Edfu documents as the Island of the Egg or the Island of Trampling, while the stone structure is recalled in the name Place of the Well. Yet behind the tall, imposing walls of the sacred enclosure the texts speak of an altogether different kind of person - commanding figures referred to variously as the Shebtiu, the Sages, the Elders and the Falcons. These mythical individuals take the guise of birds, implying perhaps that they were priest-shamans who adorned themselves in bird feathers. They are also said to have had radiant faces that must have made them quite striking in appearance. This menagerie of divine beings, who were said to number sixty, are spoken of as netjeru, or divinities.


The Russian team's site "THE LABORATORY OF ALTERNATIVE HISTORY" (Moscow) is @ [link to www.lah.ru] and photo bank of expeditions is @ [link to lah.ru]

HappyPotter
05-14-2013, 01:57 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIBnN7CfDC4



TIAHUANACO: ANTEDILUVIAN CIVILIZATION - WAR OF GODS


RUSSIAN EXPEDITION OF SCIENTISTS (PHYSICISTS, ARCHEOLOGISTS, ANTHROPOLOGISTS, HISTORIANS), EXPLORES SITES OF TIAHUANACO & PUMA-PUNKU, BOLIVIA. THE RESOLUTION AND CONCLUSION OF RUSSIAN EXPERTS: TIAHUANACO & PUMA-PUNKU WERE MILITARY INSTALLATIONS AND WERE DESTROYED IN ANTEDILUVIAN TIME (~12,000 BC) BY INTENTIONAL & PURPOSEFULL NUCLEAR OR OTHER UNKNOWN TYPE OF ROCKET MISSLE FROM THE AIR (DURING THE LEGENDARY WARS OF GODS around ~12,000-10,000 BC, description of which we have in the ancient texts all over the world). Sites were not built by Inca and have absolutely nothing to do with Incas primitive technology. BTW, Inca even were not there when all these ancient places were built. Sites were later supervised by gods like Viracocha who deliberately did not allow later Aymara to live on territories of Tiahuanaco and Puma-Punku probably because of the high level of radiation at that time.

NOTE 1: The highest attention by Russian team was paid to: 1. stone processing & cutting technology @ TIAHUANACO, PUMA-PUNKU (since this is the only substantial and visible evidence that has been left by antediluvian civilization); 2. The purpose of stones cut certain way; 3. The purpose of stones used in military installations; 4. Sampling of the stones and metal composites. The other interesting evidence that has been found in Tiahuanaco and Puma-Punku by the team - is the purposeful and deliberate destruction of all writings and imagery on the stones by GODSWINNERS IN THE WAR sites including TIAHUANACO, PUMA-PUNKU, CUENCA, SAKSAHUAMAN, KORICANCHA, OLLANTAYTAMBO after the winning of the destructive war.

Some theories were put forward by Russian team about the legendary DELUGE, described in the numerous ancient texts being a result of a tremendous self-inflicted catastrophe by misuse of the weaponry of tremendous power somewhere around ~12,000 BC and second round 4,500 years later. Vedic texts describe the THUNDERBOLTS OF INDRA as MILLIONS SUNS that were used by gods. It could be very well understood that tsunami that hit OLLANTAYTAMBO & KORICANCHA from the Pacific Ocean was a result of the WAR OF GODS. The theory about the disappearance of the GODS-LOOSERS, - that they did not go home, but assimilated in between humans and were literally destroyed later by humans.

Note 2: Tiahuanaco - also Tiwanaku - is in the Bolivian Andes lying 12,500 feet (over 2 miles) above sea-level. It is located some 15 miles from the shores of Lake Titicaca. Some have hypothesized that its modern name is a corruption of the Aymara term "taypikala", meaning "stone in the center". As with many other sacred sites on the planet it remains an enigma allowing researchers to speculate on its origins and purpose - then paralleling their conclusions with other ancient civilizations - on other major grids points of the planet - left behind by unknown beings - surviving in time - with great stone markers which bear clues to humanity's creational story. Gods, temples, idols, metaphors - all clues in a puzzle, - humanity is unravelling at this time of conscious awakening. Tiahuanaco is believed to be the capital of the Pre-Inca Civilization. The city is believed by some to have been built by the Aymara - the Native South Americans inhabiting the Lake Titicaca basin in Peru and Bolivia. Some believe this is the oldest city in the world. Others believe it was built by an extraterrestrial race that also created the Nazca Lines. Traditionally it is thought to have been built by the predecessors of the Inca Civilization over 2,000 years ago. It is a mysterious ruined city of extremely ancient origins. Some of the massive structures at this site, like the Great Pyramid and the Sphinx in Egypt and Baalbek in Lebanon, date from pre-flood times, as long ago as 12,500 BC. Around the turn of the 20th century Bolivian scholar Arthur Broznansky began a fifty year study of the ruins of Tiahuanaco. Using astronomical information, he concluded that the city was constructed more than 17,000 years ago long before any civilization was supposed to have existed. He considered Tiahuanaco to be the 'Cradle of Civilization'. The core of this imperial capital was surrounded by a moat that restricted access to the temples and areas frequented by royalty. Legends of the Aymara Indians say that the Creator God Viracocha rose from Lake Titicaca during the time of darkness to bring forth light. Viracocha was a storm god and a sun god who was represented as wearing the sun for a crown, with thunderbolts in his hands, and tears descending from his eyes as rain. It was thought that Viracocha would re-appear in times of trouble. References are also found of a group of men named the suncasapa or bearded ones - they were the mythic soldiers of Viracocha, aka the 'angelic warriors of white god Viracocha'.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFP3C4Xel_s



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THE ANCIENT ALPHABET OF ELOHIM:

The word ELOHIM (אֱלוֹהִים , אלהים, sometimes pronounced Al-Eim) is transliteration of EL-AUM, or simply OM with the addition of aleph (א), - and known as praṇava प्रणव in Sanskrit or "OM syllable. Targum (תרגום) opens the mystery of Elohim IT IS DEITY IN THREE SEPARATE STATES (not HEBREW ONE GOD, not CHISTIAN TRINITY, but originally VEDIC SHIVAIT TRINITY from where the mystical meaning and concept of Divinity transformed into a Hebrew Elohim (Al-Eim). The word and the whole paradigm-concept Elohim - the "OM syllable, was literally borrowed from Aryan Runic and later Vedic Sanskrit. Really, nothing new was brought to the world, taking in consideration that even Sanskrit is much older than Hebrew. Since Vedic Sanskrit derived from Slavic Aryan Runic as a language, the concept of a mystical or sacred OM syllable, called also Sound of Divinity (АУМ in Aryan Runic) was known 160,000+ years before it was mentioned in TORAH, which was written down approximately 1000-1500 years ago (LENINGRAD CODEX), not 3,500 as scholars delude us to believe. The following is rather a story with different angle behind the Enochian alphabet - the alphabet of Angels or Elohim (EN). Enochian Keys. (refer also book: "Enochian Physics”...) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOXglUb8C7U


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A team of Russian geneticists have dispelled the myth that we all come from Africa. The White Race (Aryans) does not descend from Africans. The White Race spanned from Central Europe to Siberia (East-West) and from Scandinavia to the Levant (North-South).

Paper; http://www.scirp.org/journal/PaperInformation.aspx?paperID=19566

HappyPotter
05-16-2013, 02:37 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdrAuDhKEFk

RUSSIAN EXPEDITION OF SCIENTISTS EXPLORES SITES OF AXUM & LALIBELA IN ETHIOPIA. THE CONCLUSION OF RUSSIAN EXPERTS: STELLAES IN AXUM WERE PART OF A FORMER MILITARY INSTALLATIONS AND WERE CREATED WITH THE USE OF THE SAME HIGH TECHNOLOGIES FOUND IN PUMA PUNKU & TIAHUANACO. CHURCHES OF LALIBELA WERE RE-BUILT FROM THE COMPAUNDS BUILT IN ANTEDILUVIAN TIME BY HIGH CIVILIZATION.

The early history of Ethiopia (also called Abyssinia) begins with the glorious but little known kingdom of Axum. At the height of its power, the Axumite kingdom controlled most of present-day Ethiopia, including territories in the southern parts of the Arabian Peninsula. The achievements of this grand culture are recorded today in the ruins of its cities, reservoirs, temples and, most remarkably, in its settlement in the location of the previous high civilization which left interesting artifacts behind it.

The mega obelisks, also called stellaes, are known to be the tallest single pieces of stone ever quarried and erected in the ancient world. Due to their proximity to nearby tombs, the obelisks may possibly have been used as memorials to deceased kings and queens, but this is only a speculation of modern historians. The tallest of the monoliths, now fallen and broken into six massive pieces, was 33.3 meters tall and weighed an estimated 500 tons (the largest Egyptian obelisk is that of King Tutmosis, 32.16 meters high and now standing in Rome). The tallest obelisk still standing at Axum today is 23 meters. Precisely carved upon its sides (and upon the sides of many other nearby stellae with use of the similar high technology as in Tiahuanaco, Bolivia are what seem to be representations of multiple storeys (levels) with floors between them. Each storey features several Tiahuanaco-like carvings and, at the base of the obelisks, what appear to be false doors complete with knockers and locks. Dictionaries or atlases of the ancient world, or exhibitions in the great museums, barely mention Axum.

Ethiopia is little known for its splendid past, when the north (Tigray and Eritrea [Ari-tria] = means THRICE ARYAN) was ruled by the kings of Aksum. Britannia was only the most distant Roman province then, when Axum, with its capital over a mile above sea level on the 'roof of Africa', was listed by the Persian prophet Mani as the third kingdom of the world, with Rome, Persia and China. Around 500 BC or perhaps even earlier we begin to get hints of something exceptional in Ethiopia. Inscriptions written in the language of Saba (SAVA= SLAVA) in Yemen appear on the Ethiopian plateau. With them were found stone altars, elegant limestone female statues (typical artifacts of Vedic Shivait culture) dressed in pleated robes, canopied thrones decorated with carved ibex, and those lesser 'small finds' that allow the archaeologist to piece together the unknown past.

At Yeha near Axum a fine masonry temple, still almost intact, was built. The inscriptions reveal the creators of all this Sabaeans (Savians = Slavians-Sivaits), a trading community from overseas, associated with Ethiopians who employed the same script as these overseas trading partners. The kingdom they established, called Dia`mat (IN SLAVIC ARYAN DIA means LIVING or and MAT means MOTHER ] - LIVING MOTHER), mysteriously disappeared by perhaps the 3rd century BC. It gave birth in an indirect way to what may be called, after Egypt and Meroe in the Sudan, the greatest of all Africa's civilizations: the kingdom of Axum. The tantalizing and towering ruins of Yeha's Temple of the Moon - built in Sabaean (Savian) times, is considered to be Ethiopia's earliest high civilization. Whether this was a lone shrine of a temple, or part of a city with other similar edifices is not yet ascertained. Nevertheless, the fact that the wall is built with precise-fitting blocks of smoothly polished yellow limestone carefully placed without the use of mortar, leaves no doubt of the superb quality and craftsmanship involved. Apart from the temple, however - which speaks eloquently of the works of a high civilization, the people who built this great edifice.

NOTE 1: Transliteration of Sabaean is Sabian (or Savian, which came from word SLAVIAN). NOTE 2: Queen of SHEBA (AXUM) - transliteration & meaning of the word SHEBA is SHIVA and SIVA. People of high civilization in Ethiopia before Axum civilization were ARYANS-SHIVAITS, who also started Egypt in 26,000 BC. This is exactly the same people who started Sumerian civilization 5,000 years earlier, in 31,000 BC. Queen Sheba (as HATHOR, WOMAN OF HORUS SLAVIC ARYAN is the ARYAN QUEEN SHIVA and at the same time is the reference to that ancient high civilization that built stellaes in Axum somewhere in ~ 26,000 BC. NOTE 3: Also note the Aryan Shivait Swastikas on the temples of LALIBELA - they were not built by Christians.

HappyPotter
05-16-2013, 02:46 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4vfJdausXQ

ANCIENT INDIA: KAMA SUTRA OF SHIVA - THE ARYAN HERITAGE

ARYAN HERITAGE CALLED KAMA SUTRA IS THE OPPOSITE TEACHING TO OCCULT ABRAHAMIC RELIGIOUS DOCTRINE - THE DOCTRINE OF ORIGINAL SIN.

"Therefore, just as through one person sin entered the world, and through sin, death, and thus death came to all, inasmuch as all sinned..." Romans 5:12. THIS IS THE ANCIENT OSIRIAN IDEOLOGY OR THE OCCULT DOCTRINE OF ABSOLUTELY ALL ABRAHAMIC (OSIRIAN) RELIGIONS.

Have you ever thought why the world needs Messiah? Have you ever thought about why do you need the salvation and from what/whom in particular? Have you ever thought from where THE ORIGINAL SIN IDEOLOGY came from? IN ITS OWN MATRIX THE ORIGINAL SIN FORMULA is pretty occult but very simple to decipher. In order to understand God (and everything IT includes) you need a salvation, to have a salvation you need redemption, to be redeemed and to be saved you definitely need THE SAVIOR. Since mortal human cannot save, the future Savior must be immortal, thus Savior becomes to be a GOD. Savior MUST BE REVEALED, SAVIOR MUST HAVE THE ADVERSARY, since without one SAVIOR WOULD NOT BE A SAVIOR (no reason in salvation), in addition Savior must be revealed by/in GENEALOGY and BLOODLINE. Sounds familiar?

Behind the described above HOAX is the SIMPLEST MATHEMATICAL ALGORITHM that is widely used in programming - [...if, then...], where if you agree to at least one [...if,] sub-assembly, you HAVE TO AGREE [then...] TO THE WHOLE ASSEMBLY OF CREATED ALGORITHM. In another words - YOU MUST ACCEPT THE NOTION THAT BEING BORN IS ALREADY SIN. By doing deep research of the antediluvian civilizations (behind Adam Genesis story is description of crossbreeding and NOT CREATION OF THE FIRST HUMAN) it is very easy to find that Aryan civilization that spread to the Indus Valley Saraswati, Sumer, Ethiopia and Egypt brought a set of completely different HUMAN VALUES with their cosmogony, understanding the structure of the Universe(s) and laws that keep it intact.

Aryans had a GNOSIS OF TRINITARIAN MANIFESTATION OF THE ABSOLUTE POWER(S), ENERGY(IES) THAT OPERATE IN THE KNOWN UNIVERSES & THEIR MANIFESTATION AS HUMAN ENTITIES HERE ON OUR AND OTHER PLANETS IN MILKY WAY GALAXY, WHICH THEY CALLED HOME & INFINITELY FURTHER (symbol of that gnosis was Swastika). Aryans knew about the manifestation of the ABSOLUTE POWER in three states - BRAHMA - PRIMORDIAL LIGHT, VISHNU - THE HIGHEST (SUPREME) and SIVA or SHIVA - CREATOR & DESTROYER (FORCE) IN MATERIAL REALM WE KNOW. From here derived borrowed Christian concept of Trinity (Hebrews borrowed Trinitarian concept also as it described in Targum about plurality of Elohim-[EL-AUM] - people are still confused why ONE GOD Elohim is "plural" in Genesis).

The gnosis Aryans possessed is called GENOTHEISM, where in Sanskrit and Slavic Aryan Runic Vedas it stated THAT HUMANS WERE BORN FROM GODS OR THE LOWER MANIFESTATION OF THAT SUPREME ABSOLUTE POWER OR SHIVA WHICH ABRAHAMIC RELIGIONS LATER STARTED TO CALL GOD. By Aryan Vedic teachings TO BE BORN IS THE HIGHEST GIFT THAT CAN BE GIVEN TO YOU IN ORDER TO BE TRAINED IN MATERIAL WORLD YAV' FOR THE SELF REALIZATION IN HIGHER REALMS CALLED SLAV' from here derives the name SLAV or SLAVIC) and PRAV'. The KAMA SUTRA IS THE TEACHING ABOUT SIVA-SHIVA OR THE CREATION OF LIFE. THERE IS NO ORIGINAL SIN, NEVER WAS & NEVER WILL BE. This is the secret of the ABRAHAMIC (Anti-Brahm) Osirian matrix. The whole Osirian-Abrahamic DOGMA was invented for THE DESTRUCTION OF HUMAN IDENTITY OF SELF & DEEP OCCULT CONTROL OF HUMAN MIND/PSYCHE.

It is really irrelevant to mention all names that we can find in Torah, Bible, Quran, Book of Mormon, etc to identify what god is real - it is all DOGMATIC OSIRIAN (not human) DOGMA. SOME HISTORICAL FACTS: The following presentation is about described above Aryan heritage called KAMA SUTRA, which is the TEACHING ABOUT CREATIVE FORCE OF LIFE ITSELF - THE MANIFESTATION OF SIVA-SHIVA. Please pay less attention to the modern "sex slang" by narrator, always check and read in between lines. Another interesting fact - attention should be paid to the description of how Abrahamic religions tried to destroy temples, statues, inscriptions when they invaded India. Suffice it to say that a lot if not all Sivait Kama Sutra temples in India were built by Aryans well before 12,000 BC and 7,000 BC (on mentioned "Kama Sutra" temples sites identical construction techniques were found - as in Tiahuanaco, Machu Picchu, etc), and gradually were destroyed by Osirian invaders.

This presentation is passive comparative analysis (for one who can see) of two FORCES - VEDANTA (SHIVAISM) & OSIRIANISM (JUDAISM, CHRISTIANITY, ISLAM, MORMONISM, ETC) - KAMA SUTRA & THE DOCTRINE OF ORIGINAL SIN.


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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8b7JsLuEGw0


ANCIENT EGYPT KAMA SUTRA OF HATHOR - ARYAN GODDESS MAKOSH

Pre-Dynastic EGYPT and the influence from the VEDIC ARYAN Culture (in ~26,000-24,000 BC). The main Goddess of ARYAN Culture before EGYPT was ARYAN Goddess-MOTHER MAKOSH. This is the oldest Goddess that Vedic Aryans brought to the area where they established KHEMET (EGYPT) in ~26,000 BC. Later on Hathor became to be ASHERA, CONSORT OF BAAL (ВЕЛЕС) and LATER HEBREW YHWH. In Egyptian mythology, Hathor (Egyptian for House of Horus) was originally a personification of the Milky Way (Mehet-Weret). The Milky Way was seen as a waterway in the heavens, sailed upon by both the sun god and the king, leading the Egyptians to describe it as The Nile in the Sky. Due to this, and the name Mehturt, she was identified as responsible for the yearly inundation of the Nile. HATHOR (MAKOSH) was the Goddess of Motherhood. Hathor was identified as the Pleiades. Also HATHOR (MAKOSH) was a Fertility Goddess.

Archangel
03-31-2016, 02:32 AM
I realize this is an od thread, but wanted to post my comment in the appropriate place. I came across this today...plans to construct the temple of baal in New York and London. Hmmmm.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNtgnDeLpos

zoas23
03-31-2016, 06:18 AM
http://s9.postimg.org/eqwgt5xkf/Captura_de_pantalla_2016_03_31_a_las_2_13_31_a_m.p ng

Zionist Occupation Government (ZOG) Failure - Free Thinker DETECTED

I never saw this thread before.

The so called "Hyperborean Gnosis" is quite popular in South America, which is where I live.

It became popular here with the Chilean Miguel Serrano:
http://factorelblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/Miguel-Serrano-ACA-2.jpg

The Argentinean Luis Felipe Moyana (A.K.A. "Nimrod de Rosario")
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-4CMem--NyYM/VUoV5LASwOI/AAAAAAAATP8/WRrRCXiAObg/s1600/luis-felipe-moyano%5B1%5D.jpg

And the Veganist Movement (which has nothing to do with the word "Vegan" as it is used to describe those who don't consume animal products) mainly in Argentina, Bolivia and Perú:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_esUBlqKjDzk/S7TciNzKGOI/AAAAAAAAM1M/n4N7B2dkQaQ/s1600/nazis_cholos.jpg

The theories of the Hyperborean origins of mankind (with "Mankind" meaning the "Aryans") began with Karl Penka, whose theories were followed by Guido von List (who mostly mixed them with weird ideas that Blavatsky "channeled") to create his own philosophy of an "Aryosophy", that became the main corpus of influence of the Nazi party.

These ideas were followed later by other assholes like Robert Charroux, who mostly believed that the white Aryans came from U.F.O.s and dominated the world in ancient times... these same ideas were taken later by the "Hyperborean Gnostics" to create paranoid visions of a world dominated by the evil Jews, who only existed to oppress the pure Aryans and invented the Abrahamic Religions to brainwash everyone and extablish a "Zionist Occupation Government".

Then you have some idiots like Serrano or Nimrod who travelled to the South Pole believing that Hitler went there transported by an UFO and tried to find him after WWII because they thought that he was the new Messiah. Well, they didn't find him and returned with a flu.

Some facts are pretty obvious... like this weird theory that Jesus was invented in the XI Century!!!! (LOL). It must have taken a lot of time to write all the references to Jesus in the XI Century and invent writers such as Boethius, Origen, Plotinus, the Nag-Hammadi scriptures, Valentinus, Iraneous, Eriugena, etc...

Oh wait... my bullshit detector is about to explode...


http://static.uglyhedgehog.com/upload/2014/8/13/1407950296155-bull_shit_meter.jpg

Pardon me, but racist idiocy based on paranoid bullshit is something that simply switches off my usually polite ways.

Andro
03-31-2016, 07:33 AM
Some facts are pretty obvious... like this weird theory that Jesus was invented in the XI Century!!!! (LOL). It must have taken a lot of time to write all the references to Jesus in the XI Century and invent writers such as Boethius, Origen, Plotinus, the Nag-Hammadi scriptures, Valentinus, Iraneous, Eriugena, etc...

Everything can be planted or fabricated... Police fabricates (or plants) evidence quite often... this is not a new practice :)

Who knows, maybe Jesus was invented 2000+ years ago and then again re-invented in 1086 AD? Even in our times, there are/were many jesus-wannabe characters (http://freethoughtnation.com/dangerous-delusions-the-messiah-complex-and-jerusalem-syndrome/)... Maybe 1000 years from now, one of them will be revised as the actual Jesus? Who knows?


Pardon me, but racist idiocy based on paranoid bullshit is something that simply switches off my usually polite ways.
Also in Vedic culture there are no ‘chosen people’ of God as in Judaism, whether Jew, African, Aryan, Asian, Indian, whatever, everyone has the potential for spiritual development, nor has/did zionism, nazism, communism, socialism, democracy etc have anything to do with it, nor is it a ‘religious institution’ or a ‘civilization’.I didn't detect any racism in HP's posts... Maybe you're talking more about the Hyperborean 'movements' in South America?


Then you have some idiots like Serrano or Nimrod who traveled to the South Pole believing that Hitler went there transported by an UFO and tried to find him after WWII because they thought that he was the new Messiah. Well, they didn't find him and returned with a flu.

All value judgements aside, Hitler doesn't strike me as the type who would like to be found... maybe he hid really well :)

I suspect 'Jesus' wouldn't want to be found by (most) 'christians' either :)

My 'truth' is that I have absolutely no idea what happened (with Jesus, Hitler, the aliens, etc...), so I can't really comment. Not to mention alternative timelines :)

But if I ever time-travel to those events, I'll report back here.

Edit: I just read some bits by Nimrod and if we take away the race crap (and other superfluities), I think we can find some valuable Gnostic insights there.

If you want a splendid allegorical tale with a strong Gnostic flavor but without the race stuff, I highly recommend reading "Empire V" by Victor Pelevin. I only found it in English as a Kindle version.

zoas23
03-31-2016, 09:13 AM
Everything can be planted or fabricated... Police fabricates (or plants) evidence quite often... this is not a new practice :)

Who knows, maybe Jesus was invented 2000+ years ago and then again re-invented in 1086 AD? Even in our times, there are/were many jesus-wannabe characters (http://freethoughtnation.com/dangerous-delusions-the-messiah-complex-and-jerusalem-syndrome/)... Maybe 1000 years from now, one of them will be revised as the actual Jesus? Who knows?

I don't see any significant change in the notion of "Jesus" taking place in the XI Century.
And there is a VAST literature that existed before the XI Century that already mentions "Jesus"... Yeah, it can be a conspiracy of the evil Zionist Occupation Government, which didn't limit itself to invent "Jesus", but also invented the whole corpus of texts that precede the XI century.


I didn't detect any racism in HP's posts... Maybe you're talking more about the Hyperborean 'movements' in South America?



Example;
Word NAGA does not come from Sanskrit, it comes from Slavic Aryan (H'Aryan and Da'Aryan), it was simply recorded in Sanskrit upon arrival of H'Aryans and Da’Aryans on the Saraswati river in Indus Valley. Sanskrit itself is artificially created language (for the preservation of H'Aryan and Da'Aryan oral traditions since approximately ~603,000 BC) and derived from H'Aryan and Da'Aryan Runic (1400 runes total). The closest language to H'Aryan and Da'Aryan currently is Russian or Old Slavic family of languages throughout the Europe. In Old Slavic the Sanskrit’s ORIGINAL word NAGAS was written as NAGI (НАГИ), with original meaning that alleged “Adam” and “Eve” (adapa race) were the "seed" and offspring of NAGAS (it is suffice to note here that all current human races are not descendants from Nagas-Nachash, except THE ORIGINAL HEBREWS – later described in Torah as the Levi (currently called Cohen) tribe which was artificially "cross-bread" to serve NAGAS-NACHASH themselves). When Bible was translated from the ORIGINAL OLD SLAVIC (H’Aryan) into alleged "ancient" Hebrew approximately in 1050 AD in Byzantium by the scribes of bloodline of Isaak Angel (Hebrew is an artificially created tongue and alphabet by NAGAS-NACHASH-COSCHEI), the neuro-lingual container of NAGAS (НАГИ) was intentionally translated and transliterated as word “NAKED”, thus changing the meaning of the original neuro-lingual container, and with the play on the root of the neuro-lingual container of the original word abbreviated THE OFFSPRING OF SAURIAN RACE NAGAS (НАГИ) it became to be a neuro-lingual container for the word NAKED - all that was done for the sole purpose of hiding the original ancestry of ORIGINAL HEBREWS (Hebrew [עִבְרִית] means “cross-over through copulation”).

Andro... It is, I assume, quite clear by now for you how much respect I have about your views and knowledge.
But I don't think you know too much about the genealogy of these theories... which mostly come from racist anthropologists of the XIX Century and found their epitome with Guido von List and his "Aryosophy"... probably one of the most stupid esoteric movements that ever existed with bizarre ideas that became the core of the proto-nazi movement... besides from his oddities (i.e, that the Qabalah was invented by Aryan Germans in the North and then stolen by the Jews... any person who knows about the REAL origins of Qabalah knows that it is simply a product of Alexandria and a mix of Marcusian Gnosticism, Neo-Platonism and ideas taken from Philo of Alexandria... and it doesn't really have any kind of direct connection with the Runes).

And, no, these ideas didn't become racist in South America... they began being racist. The ONLY difference is that in South America these ideas got mixed up with Julius Evola's ideas of "Spiritual Aryans" and some people like Serrano started to talk about the "Aryan Chilean Race", declaring that the Mapuches (the aborigines of Chile) were "white" and "Aryan".

These ideas in South America derived in bizarre movements like Martin Quispe Mayta's movement (The National Socialist Party of Peru)... who have even more bizarre ideas to share (i.e, that Francisco Pizarro was secretly a jew -an idea only supported by... nothing- who planned the extermination of the South American aborigines because they were "white Aryans").
Mayta and his *Aryan* friends:
http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/yy155/giancarloandres/neonazis-peruanos.jpg

But it's not in South America that these ideas became racist:


"The three godfathers of the Nazi Thule were Guido von List (1848-1919), Jorg Lanz von Liebenfels (1874-1954), and Rudolf von Sebottendorff (1875-1945). It is significant that all three decided at some point to adorn their plain bourgeois names with the particle von (which in German suggests noble descent even when it is not further defined by Graf, Baron, etc.). One of the hallmarks of master-race philosophy is that no one is known to have embraced it who does not consider himself a member of that race. And what is more tempting, having once adopted the belief that one's own race is chosen by Nature or God for preeminence, than to put oneself at its aristocratic summit?
"The Viennese Jorg Lanz, a former religious of the Cistercian Order, was the founder in 1907 of the Order the New Templars (ONT), a chivalric, gnostic, and ritualistic order with the most extreme of racist ideals. There can be little doubt that the ONT, with its lodges in ruined castles, was the prototype for Heinrich Himmler's Schutzstaffel (the notorious 'SS'), as it was transformed after 1930 to become the training- and breeding-ground for the masters of a New Age of Aryan supremacy. Lanz was a very copious writer on biblical exegesis, astrology, antifeminism, and many other topics. One of his earliest creations, in about 1900, was Theozoology: a new 'science' inspired by H. P. Blavatsky's Secret Doctrine.
"Blavatsky had explain the origin of the anthropoid apes, not as remnants of the ancestors mankind, but as the descendants of bestiality committed by the Third Race (Lemurians) with monstrous animals. Lanz applied this principle in the most perverted way: the non-Aryan races, he said, were the result of bestiality on the part of the ancient Aryans, after their departure from the northern Garden of Eden. To deal with these peoples, thus regarded as only semi-human, Lanz recommended variously: enforced sterilization and castration; deportation to Madagascar; enslavement; incineration a sacrifice to God; and use as beasts of burden. As Goodrick-Clarke comments, 'Both the psychopathology of the Nazi holocaust and the subjugation of non-Aryans in the East were presaged by Lanz's grim speculations.'
"It is no surprise that Lanz had a theory about the original homeland of the Aryans: it was a vanished polar continent called Arktogaa (from the Greek: 'northern earth'). This was adopted by his older acquaintance Guido von List, another Viennese mythomaniac who, more than anyone else, laid the foundation for the romantic blend of ideas that links the proto-Nazis uncannily with the Greens and New-Agers of today: an interest in natural living, vegetarianism, anti-industrialism; an appreciation of prehistoric monuments and the wisdom of those who built them; a feeling for astrology, earth energies, and natural cycles; a religious outlook vaguely resembling that of Theosophy. The generic name given to this kind of thinking was volkisch, an untranslatable word on the borderlines between nationalistic and folkloric."
(Arktos: The Polar Myth in Science, Symbolism, and Nazi Survival, Joscelyn Godwin, pgs. 48-49)


All value judgements aside, Hitler doesn't strike me as the type who would like to be found by 'idiots'... maybe he hid really well :)

Yeah... in the South Pole and taken there by an UFO... an idea that was only supported by Miguel Serrano's weird imagination.


I suspect 'Jesus' wouldn't want to be found by christians either :)

LOL.... I actually think that "Jesus" would have no problem with the "Christians"... but this statement depends a lot on how we define "Jesus" and specially how we define "Christian" (i.e, I don't think the Roman Catholic religion has any kind of connection with Christianity).


My 'truth' is that I have absolutely no idea what happened (with Jesus, Hitler, the aliens, etc...), so I can't really comment. Not to mention alternative timelines :)

But if I ever time-travel to those events, I'll report back here.

I don't have any kind of evidence that shows that the humans were not sent in airplanes to a volcano on Earth by the evil Xenu... But it's not too hard to get that the Scientologists have a very silly understanding of History.

I'm sadly too familiar with these "Aryosophic" theories and I know where they come from and how they were created and which ones are its real origins and which one is the ideology behind them... and I wasn't surprised by the "ZOG Failure - Free Thinker detected" image.

There's lots of neo-nazi forums, such as stormfront or national vanguard to talk about this bullshit... with a lot of "Free Thinkers" with peanut-sized brains. I already lived my childhood under a fascist military dictatorship.... so my tolerance for this type of fascist nonsense is quite small.

Andro
03-31-2016, 09:53 AM
I can only admit to not having enough knowledge to form an 'educated opinion'.

You acquaintance with these movements & philosophies is obviously much more expansive than mine :)

Personally, I prefer to extract the principles and their synthesis and leave aside the racial/social/historical/cultural (revisionist?) politics... (what I refer to as 'superfluities').

zoas23
04-04-2016, 01:51 AM
I can only admit to not having enough knowledge to form an 'educated opinion'.

You acquaintance with these movements & philosophies is obviously much more expansive than mine :)

Personally, I prefer to extract the principles and their synthesis and leave aside the racial/social/historical/cultural (revisionist?) politics... (what I refer to as 'superfluities').

Well, dear Adro, I think I have more knowledge of where these ideas are coming from than you do.

A short explanation:

One of my BIG fetishes is neo-platonism and something strange that happened in the last 15 or 20 years is that the leading academic authorities on the subject are Spanish speakers and actually Argentineans (living both in Argentina and in Spain). I am talking about the current Status-Quo of the Academia when it comes to Neo-Platonism.

This weird "elite" of fascist neo-platonists managed to take over the Academic world thanks to the gentle economic collaboration of an Argentinean billionaire... who finances their deluxe editions of bullshit.

Their main political referent is called Alejandro Biondini (also known as "Kalki")... an Argentinean weirdo who is into Hitlerian cosplay (he's *sadly* bald... so his impersonation doesn't feature the classical Hitlerian haircut):
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-9Q6FZvvvUEo/U_2ACA-MYUI/AAAAAAAAAEk/GiEvm_u02M8/s1600/Biondini-2.jpg http://k39.kn3.net/taringa/C/6/9/3/E/1/SerugiranT/A14.jpg

(he never managed to get more than 0.5% of the votes in any election and is mostly seen as a freak).

Biondini himself is not a writer on neo-platonism, but he mostly endorses the racial theories of the Nazi party and "Hitlerian Occultism"... with its "South American version"... that gives some weird twists to make the American Aborigines becomes "White Aryans".

Since I LOVE neo-platonism a lot and I started to find the new (Spanish written) books on the subject populated by this nonsense... I began to investigate the genealogy of this idiocy. So I know the history of these ideas, where they come from, their origins, etc... and I've learnt to read "between the lines".

Soooo... the BIG issue is always the same: who is an übermensch and who is an untermensch?

As you probably know, Nazism didn't classify the American Aborigines as "Übermensch", but quite the opposite...

Neo-Nazism is getting popular in Russia (you are probably aware of this issue)... the problem is that the Nazis were not exactly in love with the Slavic people...

Some sort of psychological problem makes some weirdos support these proto-Nazi and Nazi ideals... but they find the BIG problem that they don't really classify as "Übermensch" if they follow the Nazi standards.

This is the first time I see the "Slavic version" of these theories... with its strange twists that make the Slavic people become "Aryans" and one of the "Original Pure Races".

The title of this thread could have been: "Oh, please read how I'm a Slavic Russian, but follow my twisted arguments based on XIX century racist anthropology with a Slavic twist that will try to demonstrate that the Russians are Übermensch too, like the German Aryans that Hitler loved!".

When someone wants to demonstrate something that is idiotic in itself, quite often you'll end up finding that the thesis has to include the most bizarre arguments you can conceive (i.e, Jesus being a XI Century invention, an absolutely incorrect philology about some words and their origin... and a bizarre interpretation of some myths -i.e, We find in this thread that the Inca God Viracocha was actually a White Aryan God... an idea that was also supported by the Nazi Arnold Krumm-Heller, who also made his own weird Aryan Rosicrucian cult making the Mexicans become "Aryans" and adopted the name "Viracocha" himself).

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Since these subjects leave a sour taste in my mouth, here's a nice story:

It was 1936 and the German diplomat for the U.K. saw a self-portrait of Austin Osman Spare at an exhibition and purchased it because his face in the portrait looked a bit like the face of Hitler... The portrait was sent to Hitler as a gift by the diplomat.

Hitler fell in love with it and wrote to AOS a personal letter asking him to travel to Germany as to paint him. He wanted AOS to paint a portrait of him.

AOS wrote back and kept a copy of the letter.

A few years after the end of WWII, in 1948, AOS wrote in an identical portrait that the one that Hitler owned a part of the letter he sent back to Adolf Hitler. It is interesting that he also had to restore this portrait because it was partly destroyed by a Nazi bomb that fell in his studio in 1941 and almost killed him.

http://40.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxyj6tipVl1rntu2co1_400.jpg

The image is too small as to read the letter, but here's what it says:


Written to A.Hitler after invitation to paint his portrait 1936:
'When I look at you...whether the retch out all kinship or close my eyes and so accept a more abstract value, a reverse side - I know not? Only from negations can I wholesomely conceive you..for I know no courage sufficient to stomach your aspirations and ultimates. If you are superman - let me be forever animal..."
Self-Portrait restoration, partly destroyed [in] 1941. Original in Germany, formerly owned by Hitler.
Austin Osman Spare 1948

Following this reply that AOS sent to Hitler, even if AOS didn't like it at all to be "followed" by anyone... my general reply to this thread would be:

"If that's how you conceive the übermensch, let me be forever an untermensch that loves too much as to embrace this idiocy".