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LostGnosticOccultum
05-31-2013, 04:03 PM
I just love Nikola Tesla, about the same that I love Albert Einstein; This Video is AWESOME and I Believe it helps the major populous see and understand the truth of history instead of what we are taught in schools, Its sad that children are taught lies from the time they are born until they can think for themselves and even after that if they don't read or do a little learning on there own. Anyway here's an awesome video that I Believe many of you will appreciate


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJ1Mz7kGVf0&feature=share

Awani
05-31-2013, 08:20 PM
Nice one.

:cool:

Ghislain
06-01-2013, 02:56 AM
One way of looking at it :confused:

Ghislain

LostGnosticOccultum
06-02-2013, 05:40 AM
Nice one.

:cool:

Thanks :cool:

Nibiru
06-02-2013, 07:44 PM
I've seen many of these before and quite a few are very funny! Thanks for posting this as I recently shared it as well :)

Ghislain
06-03-2013, 03:40 PM
One point to remember is that Tesla had the same hours in a day and just as many fingers as Edison.

Who brought the products to the market?

Is that wrong?

There are many stories throughout history of stolen ideas; check out The Newtonc-Leibniz Calculus Controversy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leibniz%E2%80%93Newton_calculus_controversy)

or Alexander Fleming's involement with Penecilin; Ernst Boris Chain and Edward Abraham worked out how to
isolate and concentrate penicillin but Fleming took most of the credit even though he had little to no
involvement in the years of work by Chain and Abraham.

Cavendish, Lavoisier & Hydrogen, Cavendish discovered it, but Lavosier named it.

Elisha Gray, Alexander Graham Bell & The Telephone (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elisha_Gray_and_Alexander_Bell_telephone_controver sy)

The list goes on and on...

Also, because someone makes a great breakthrough does not mean that everything they do after that
must be trusted or deemed a success.

Just another way of looking at things.

Ghislain

Hellin Hermetist
06-04-2013, 02:52 PM
What exactly are you trying to say Ghislain? Westinghouse was the one who commercialised Tesla's polyphase motor and brouth it to the market. So what? The whole design was Tesla's idea.

Also, we cant be sure about what Tesla accomplished with his tower at Colorado Springs and Wanderclyffe, as we dont have such a tower at our disposal to make experiments with. Even if we have most of the theoretical infos, this doesnt mean that we can produce exactly the same results if the chief enginner of the project isnt Tesla himself. See what Crookes wrote to Tesla about the coil he (Crookes) made under Tesla's instructions and the one which Tesla himself gave him as a present.

"The phosphorescence through my body when I hold one terminal is decidely inferior to the one made with a little one you made for me".

And here he is referring only to a small coil not to a huge tower.

LostGnosticOccultum
06-04-2013, 04:21 PM
Plus Tesla had an eidetic memory and thus most likely left a lot of stuff out of his notes as to prevent his designs from being stolen. In an regards Tesla not interested n money but rather progress where as Edison only wanted to fill his pockets. Speaking of theft and Edison, most of Edison's designs were stolen from Tesla while h was working for Edison. Edison was nothing more than a greedy crook who deserves about 1/4th of the scientific respect and credit that he has currently.

zoas23
06-04-2013, 08:16 PM
There is a chapter on Tesla on the "Drunk History" series.
[Drunk History is simply about making a historian or an expert on the biography of some character get very drunk and then speak about the story and achievements of this character whilst being drunk... and some actors impersonate the story.... some of them are more or less accurate, some others are quite surreal due to alcohol... they do it for fun's sake, but it's fun to watch].


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gOR91oentQ

Ghislain
06-04-2013, 09:08 PM
HH the point I was trying to make is that people think Tesla got a bum deal...
this happens in a capatilist society...its no big deal...survival of the fittest...
who you know not what you know...genius engineers have to get thier
products to market or go under.

Was I going off on a tangent?

I thought they were trying to make Edison out to be the bad guy.

Zoas, that wasn't Edison in that clip you posted, it was Marty McFly's dad :)

Ghislain

Hellin Hermetist
06-04-2013, 10:16 PM
Survival of the fittest as you said, and it was Tesla's AC system which survived at the end of the day and not Edison's DC. I am refering to power transmissions networks here. The only battle between Tesla/Westinghouse and Edison was the one of the AC/DC currents and Edison lost it for good.

Edison had nothing to do with the research which took place at Colorado Springs and Wanderclyffe. J. P. Morgan, the banker, was the one who funded Tesla to build those huge towers. He decided to stop giving him more funds, when Tesla revealed to him that he is planning to transfer energy, not signals only, without wires, with the help of his tower. Morgan had made investments at the copper wire industry and this didnt sound good to him.

Awani
06-04-2013, 11:45 PM
My deep and philosophical reply to your point Ghislain is very short: Edison was a cunt!

A more adult reply would be: Free energy is not something the world is ready for... Tesla along with others were ahead of the curve.

:cool:

Ghislain
06-05-2013, 07:31 AM
Dev, I don't disagree with your point. My point was that the world isn't the fairest
place and if one is looking for what is fair then one could have a long wait, find a lot of
disappointment and an uphill battle.

What has happened has happened and many people harp on the past when looking to
the future may be a better direction.

I guess we can learn from the past. I'm a great believer in what I can see, I look to the billions
of people to come up with ideas and have faith that, while you can smother some ideas, you cannot
silence all.

Where are the water engines and the free electricity on a commercial/or free scale?

Recently I saw on a TV prog here in the UK, The Gadget Show (http://gadgetshow.channel5.com/gadget-show/blog/is-this-the-end-of-the-wire), they had an article on a product
which has reached the market from a company called Witricity (http://www.witricity.com/) who have developed a way of powering
gadgets over 1.5m distance wirelessly.They mention another company using similar tech to trickle-charge
your appliences, Powercast (http://www.powercastco.com/).

Both of these use a power source for thier transmitter. Given the amount of research they have,
most likely, carried out do you think there may be a possibility that these guys have looked
into ambient free energy?

There is a difference between wanting something to exist and actually making it happen. Tesla died
over 70 years ago and technology has advanced exponentially from then till now...where is the free energy.

I would like to believe its possible, but just because I want it does not make it so. I love to read all the pseudo
scientific talk but where are the results?

I am fairly sure that if I managed to develop a way of tapping into free energy no one would be able to stop
me sending that idea virally.

Ghislain

Hellin Hermetist
06-05-2013, 03:22 PM
The main point is that Tesla never said that he tapped some unknown source of unlimited energy or that he had perfected some miraculous machine that is going to give free energy to the world. Beraden and other modern impostors say things like these.

Edison wasnt able to understand the superiority of AC to DC in matters of transmission of power and lose a lot of money to Tesla/Westinghouse for that reason. Thats all.

Ghislain
06-06-2013, 10:13 AM
Perhaps I should read up on Tesla HH

I thought the main thing was that he proposed free energy to the world.

The link below points to this...The article below the video clip is of more interest to this thread.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdOFAAgTUqo.

If you have the time below is another video on Tesla that may be of interest.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKT59QybrTM

Ghislain

Edit: The article mentioed above can be a little difficult to open so I will post it here.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7b/Tesla_Broadcast_Tower_1904.jpeg/300px-Tesla_Broadcast_Tower_1904.jpeg

Brooklyn Eagle July 10, 1932 Nikola Tesla states:

"I have harnessed the cosmic rays and caused them to operate a motive device."

Tesla, with the financial backing of famous financier J.P. Morgan, built a Transmission tower (picture above) which housed a resonating tesla coil.
It was shaped like a pyramid and it's intention was to transmit energy around the world, from a single tower.

Morgan provided the finance as Tesla had successfully developed Alternating Current, and with the backing of Morgan had built the world's first
Alternating Current Power station at Niagara Falls, in the U.S.A. Morgan was receptive to Tesla and thought that Tesla was onto something, having
been impressed with Tesla's Alternating Current Power station. HOWEVER when Morgan found out that Tesla wanted to transmit FREE energy
from the tower it was literally burnt to the ground, and Morgan would have nothing more to do with it.

Shortly afterwards Tesla's lab was burnt to the ground, while Tesla was away, asleep in his home.

Awani
06-06-2013, 03:17 PM
The desire that guides me in all I do is the desire to harness the forces of nature to the service of mankind. - Nikola Tesla
“Radio Power Will Revolutionize the World” (Modern Mechanix & Inventions, July, 1934)

:cool:

Hellin Hermetist
06-06-2013, 08:00 PM
"I have harnessed the cosmic rays and caused them to operate a motive device."


It was nothing more than a primitive photovoltaic cell.



Tesla, with the financial backing of famous financier J.P. Morgan, built a Transmission tower (picture above) which housed a resonating tesla coil.
It was shaped like a pyramid and it's intention was to transmit energy around the world, from a single tower.


Yeah, to transmit energy without wires, not to produce free energy without burning fuel.




HOWEVER when Morgan found out that Tesla wanted to transmit FREE energy
from the tower it was literally burnt to the ground, and Morgan would have nothing more to do with it.


He wanted to transmit energy using the earth as his conductor. He had to burn fuel to produce the energy. It was never a free energy shceme. Morgan's problem was that he had invested big sums at the copper industry and Tesla said to him that copper wires shall become useless. The tower was burn to the ground many years later. Morgan only stopped to give Tesla more money to go this research further. As he wasnt able to find other investors and the project was very expensive it came to a dead end.

LostGnosticOccultum
06-19-2013, 03:15 AM
My deep and philosophical reply to your point Ghislain is very short: Edison was a cunt!

A more adult reply would be: Free energy is not something the world is ready for... Tesla along with others were ahead of the curve.

:cool:
I love how you put things so "gently" :cool: lol

Ghislain
01-16-2014, 11:13 PM
“When wireless is perfectly applied the whole earth will be converted into a huge brain, which in fact it is, all things being particles of a real and rhythmic whole. We shall be able to communicate with one another instantly, irrespective of distance. Not only this, but through television and telephony we shall see and hear one another as perfectly as though we were face to face, despite intervening distances of thousands of miles; and the instruments through which we shall be able to do his will be amazingly simple compared with our present telephone. A man will be able to carry one in his vest pocket.”

Nikola Tesla (http://disinfo.com/2010/06/nikola-tesla-mad-electricity/)

yeah that will never happen ;)

Ghislain