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Andro
12-16-2013, 09:47 PM
'Alchemy' - Audio Lecture:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcnSw8baq7U

theFool
12-16-2013, 11:25 PM
Androgynus, you always find the online gems :) I couldn't follow him to the end but admired some of his congealed knowledge.
For example that "the alchemist must purify first his body", then "the final secret comes from inside". That the goal of alchemy is transmutation of the man himself. And that there was an amateur alchemist, who, despite his diligent work, couldn't bring his opus to fruition because he worked purely intellectually, without "love for god or mankind". in that way he left no chance for the manifestation of the necessary divine intervention and help..

Awani
12-17-2013, 01:51 AM
MPH is a great scholar, IMO.

Thx.

:cool:

Andro
12-17-2013, 02:57 AM
There are a few other audio lectures of Manly P. Hall on Alchemy, but the audio quality is quite bad.

Like HERE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZ8co1ggo4U) and HERE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpoxRyUlrKk), for example.

There is also a website containing some of his works: The Manly P. Hall Archive (http://www.manlyphall.org/)

Krisztian
12-17-2013, 04:06 PM
One can subscribe to MPHarchive on YouTube, they are excellent lectures I agree.

Andro
12-17-2013, 08:45 PM
One can subscribe to MPHarchive on YouTube, they are excellent lectures I agree.

Here is the link to this YouTube archive: MPHarchive (http://www.youtube.com/user/MPHarchive/videos)

Manly P. Hall was indeed a great scholar, but IMO we should definitely NOT take the whole lock, stock and barrel as true/valid for our own paths and compatibility.

There is more than meets the eye to everything... and not all positively and constructively educational... freemasonry included :)

The best thing Manly (among many others) says, is not to look for the 'big answers' externally, but within oneself.

Krisztian
12-17-2013, 09:25 PM
Here is the link to this YouTube archive: MPHarchive (http://www.youtube.com/user/MPHarchive/videos)

Alright! Thanks Androgynus. The living, organic library of Alchemy Forums expands with each step.


The best thing Manly (among many others) says, is not to look for the 'big answers' externally, but within oneself.

Yes.

I listen to that subscription here and there, now and again.

Lo!
12-18-2013, 05:03 PM
Manly P. Hall was indeed a great scholar, but IMO we should definitely NOT take the whole lock, stock and barrel as true/valid for our own paths and compatibility.

There is more than meets the eye to everything... and not all positively and constructively educational... freemasonry included

It may interest you to know that Hall wasn't actually a mason; he did not participate in the degrees, but was awarded an honorary 32 degree for his research, understanding and contributions to knowledge.

Krisztian
12-18-2013, 05:47 PM
. . . was awarded an honorary 32 degree. . .

You mean, awarded 33rd degree of the Scottish Rite?

Lo!
12-18-2013, 08:15 PM
Yes! That is what I meant, but not what I said. Turns out I was mistaken, at any rate. I learned a while back that Hall completed most of his works (Initiates of the Flame, Secret Teachings, etc.) and gave hundreds of lectures when he wasn't even a Freemason, though a very thorough masonic historian, and that his 33rd degree was honorary (as it always is). I took this to mean that he didn't partake in the blue lodge degrees, which he did when he was older. Sorry if I confused anyone, but I am glad I got that straightened out.

Actually, it was kind of depressing for me to learn... I had always assumed that the secret teachings of all ages, his magnum opus, was completed at the very end of his life after an exhausted lifetime of study and learning. Turns out he published that book when he was in his mid-twenties, barely older than I am now. I guess I have some work to do. =]

Krisztian
12-18-2013, 08:45 PM
Yes! That is what I meant, but not what I said. Turns out I was mistaken, at any rate. I learned a while back that Hall completed most of his works (Initiates of the Flame, Secret Teachings, etc.) and gave hundreds of lectures when he wasn't even a Freemason, though a very thorough masonic historian, and that his 33rd degree was honorary (as it always is). I took this to mean that he didn't partake in the blue lodge degrees, which he did when he was older. Sorry if I confused anyone, but I am glad I got that straightened out.

It happens.

Yes, I think he was "raised" in the 50s at a blue lodge.


Actually, it was kind of depressing for me to learn... I had always assumed that the secret teachings of all ages, his magnum opus, was completed at the very end of his life after an exhausted lifetime of study and learning. Turns out he published that book when he was in his mid-twenties, barely older than I am now. I guess I have some work to do. =]

He seemed to have an unusual upbringing, exposed to esoteric teachings early. But he very likely "brought it" with him for it's not unusual for some to be able to write impressive volumes on esotericism under 30.

You know, there's no thing under the sun that's new, it's only that we attach names and identities to recycled knowledge from one era to the next. It's much better that one lives the wisdom, which if I may be frank doesn't seem the case in Hall's relationships (if one looks closer).

Lo!
12-18-2013, 09:18 PM
Yes, it seems that married life didn't suit him very well... Sometimes I fear that the path to wisdom for which I pray may alienate me; it seems that often the life of the genius or the enlightened is a very solitary path, wrought with isolation and social abandonment or estrangement. That's why I'm thankful for people like Rudolf Steiner and Jung; whenever I see an enlightened thinker that had a family I give a little cheer on the inside.

Ghislain
12-18-2013, 09:29 PM
Manly Palmer Hall (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manly_Palmer_Hall)

Ghislain

Andro
12-18-2013, 09:48 PM
Yes, it seems that married life didn't suit him very well... Sometimes I fear that the path to wisdom for which I pray may alienate me; it seems that often the life of the genius or the enlightened is a very solitary path, wrought with isolation and social abandonment or estrangement. That's why I'm thankful for people like Rudolf Steiner and Jung; whenever I see an enlightened thinker that had a family I give a little cheer on the inside.

Also see this thread: Relationship with an Alchemist... No thanks?! (http://forum.alchemyforums.com/showthread.php?2210-Relationship-with-an-Alchemist...-No-thanks-!)

Now back to Manly P. Hall, please (a.k.a. 'The Topic' :))