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True Initiate
11-05-2014, 12:29 PM
The Master Mason and author by the name of Timothy Hogan have made a video of his alchemical work from masonic perspective. He revealed first his path in the book called The Alchemical Keys to Masonic Ritual (which you can read here for free)
http://books.google.at/books?id=x69YATrAPOAC&printsec=frontcover&hl=de&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false

and now he has made a video and shown his work in a lab.

The Alchemical Influence on the Gentle Craft


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUTLcG718_E

His approach is somewhat unique and it seems it belongs more to spagyrie than alchemy but this is his version of the Great Work.

ghetto alchemist
11-24-2014, 01:46 AM
A shame you changed your nickname, I always liked the old one.
As I understood it was a paying homage to being jokingly called a puffer when you were in school, and you were able to combine it with an alchemy term.
Iḿ not sure what to call you these days....but I suddenly had an idea!
After the singer prince changed his name, all the radio stations started to refer to him as
¨the artist formerly known as prince¨.

How about I call you ¨the artist formely known as Puffer¨, or Tafkap for short :D

So....tafkap, I wanted to say thanks for putting this video up, I love it!!
I have thought of joining the masons many times because of my interest in alchemy, but I always
talk myself out of it imaging the masons are all stuffy white men every month practicing alchemy
based ceremonies with little idea of what they´re doing. But this guy isn´t like that at all....he´s a mason, and he´s one of us at the same time!

I believe that he is not quite correct in how he has interpreted things, but I applaud his style
and efforts to crack the greatest secret in the world.
However he did catch my attention at 22 mins 15 secs when he performed a dissolution in acid, I wondered which text or reference he based that off, since I suspect that is an important step, but on the correct material (not the one he was using).

By the way, I tried to read his book from the link you gave us, but most of it is unaccessible.

Thanks again tafkap, if you know of more gems like these, please continue to share.

Kiorionis
11-24-2014, 03:02 AM
His approach is somewhat unique and it seems it belongs more to spagyrie than alchemy but this is his version of the Great Work.

I would agree. Curious to know what his Red Lion process was though...

The part I found most interesting was what he said about Alexander the Great and Aristotle, how they found the tomb of Hermes. Never heard that one before.

True Initiate
04-03-2015, 02:55 PM
Tafkap, i kinda like it!:D



I believe that he is not quite correct in how he has interpreted things, but I applaud his style and efforts to crack the greatest secret in the world.
However he did catch my attention at 22 mins 15 secs when he performed a dissolution in acid, I wondered which text or reference he based that off, since I suspect that is an important step, but on the correct material (not the one he was using).

In his book he mentioned that this central salt is most abundant in Gold, Grapes, pine resin and Corn. His method bears strong resemblance with ORMUS creation but he goes beyond that.

All i have managed to find out that Timothy Hogan has learned this Path from a fellow freemason named Russ Smith under the oath of silence.



Thanks again tafkap, if you know of more gems like these, please continue to share.

I do in my other thread on magical grimoires.

True Initiate
04-03-2015, 03:08 PM
Thanks again tafkap, if you know of more gems like these, please continue to share.

Ok, i am lying, i have found out more! There are secret links from his lectures on alchemy on youtube. They are intentionally given generic names such as CIMG0864 so that nobody can discover them by chance. Pay attention to the 4th video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbH8j_Z_BSo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qV_IkR_pNiE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aP4LmTFp7k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOcn64iMTXU

True Initiate
04-03-2015, 03:57 PM
I have also found out that he teaches Alchemy exclusively to freemasons Alchemy 101 on this website.

http://www.thesanctumsanctorum.com/forumdisplay.php?104-Alchemy

Do we have a true Master Mason on this forum?

True Initiate
04-03-2015, 04:09 PM
Here is another secret video where he discusses the secret salts!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BapuwM0vPEk


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theFool
04-04-2015, 08:07 AM
You have this talent to unearth great information True Initiate.

You are right that his process involves the isolation of ORMUS from the plant material. It seems to me that plant Ormus is the secret salt he talks about. You can verify it at around 29:00 at the first video. There, he is neutralising the acid extract with alkali, drop by drop. You can see his pH meter checking for the neutralisation point. He tries to conceal it by saying that he is changing the "vibrational state", lol, anyway.

What impresses me is how much light and pure is the ormus he isolates! It seems like other possible insoluble chemical salts (eg. calcium) were removed or left in the solution somehow.. We have a thread on plant ormus here (http://forum.alchemyforums.com/showthread.php?1659-Plant-Ash-Precipitate). I have not observed ever so light and pure ormus salts, it must be due to the lengthy calcination he performs or due to a very carefull selection of the neutralisation point.

Also impressive is that the plant stone can be further evolved to a red lion and a white stone as he says. What I see, if he is right, is that Ormus can be united with "Mercury" and create a Stone.

Did you understand what he did with the sulfur (essential oils) of the plant? He distilled them over together with the alcohol if I got it right.

Andro
04-04-2015, 09:20 AM
It seems to me that plant Ormus is the secret salt he talks about.

This only further confirms my special interest in Ormus salts (not only/necessarily from plants), but only when they have been 'purified' to the extreme, as we have been recently discussing.

This may well be a candidate for a 'central' earth salt, but it would also need the 'cooperation of the heavens' to become our alchemical subject matter (unless we are satisfied to remain in the realm of advanced spagyrics, with the plant oils and the alcohol).

I didn't gather from the videos if he mentions the spiritualization (volatilization) of the obtained salts as well... Does he?

True Initiate
04-04-2015, 03:22 PM
First of all i think you should all read his book that he has written about this Path. This is the scan of the first print. I decided to upload it here in full:
http://k2s.cc/file/d8daf5f372f7f/Timothy_Hogan_-_Alchemical_Keys_to_Masonic_Ritual.pdf

If Timothy gets angry with me that i uploaded it here for free my defence will be that i promoted his ass so much on this forum.:cool:



What impresses me is how much light and pure is the ormus he isolates! It seems like other possible insoluble chemical salts (eg. calcium) were removed or left in the solution somehow... I have not observed ever so light and pure ormus salts, it must be due to the lengthy calcination he performs or due to a very carefull selection of the neutralisation point.

My hardbound copy of this book which is included in Novo Clavis Esoterika contains some additional sentences which are not to be found in the copy i have uploaded above. For example if we compare:

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"Next, the Master Craftsman would take the reddish ashes (called salts), and would subject them to a special corrosive process with heat and sometimes the use of strong alkalis and acids which would ultimately make the red salts turn into a bright white colour. In doing this process, he extracted two different types of salts - one was soluble salts and one was insoluble salts. Both salts were extracted as a white, powdery substance."




Also impressive is that the plant stone can be further evolved to a red lion and a white stone as he says. What I see, if he is right, is that Ormus can be united with "Mercury" and create a Stone.

Did you understand what he did with the sulfur (essential oils) of the plant? He distilled them over together with the alcohol if I got it right.

He describes two possible methods of work. In the first method he pulls the plant of choice by the roots and puts in a flask with either dew or alcohol. If he chose dew he will separate the oils by shaking and he will destill the spirit of red wine as mercury. If he chose alcohol as a solvent then he will destill them together from the plant.

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Now the key of the process is how to raise the extracted salt(s). This is done through a special process called Lion's paw or in some Masonic jurisdictions it is called the Eagle's claw.

http://img156.imagevenue.com/loc457/th_58716_4_122_457lo.jpg (http://img156.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=58716_4_122_457lo.jpg)

This is raising of the salt was accomplished before mixing it with oil and alcohol and that's the problem! Through this secret process the salt should at first turn black and then red and this is the Red Lion. Later the Red Lion is united with oil+alcohol and this is Elixir of life. Unfortunately the oil and mercury doesn't play a part in the creation of the Red Lion otherwise i will be writing this for you guys from a private island.

But on a lighter note he informs us that this secret process of raising the salts is encoded in the masonic rituals and rites like for example the wages of a freemason which consist of Oil, Corn and Wine.

http://img171.imagevenue.com/loc952/th_59408_Corn_Wine_and_Oil_122_952lo.jpg (http://img171.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=59408_Corn_Wine_and_Oil_122_952lo.jp g)

Corn, Wine and Oil Masonic Ceremony

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9apVpMCI1c

Also Hiram Abbif was raised from the dead with an Lion's Paw. That is why i am digging Albert Pike's books. ;)

True Initiate
04-04-2015, 03:26 PM
This only further confirms my special interest in Ormus salts (not only/necessarily from plants), but only when they have been 'purified' to the extreme, as we have been recently discussing.

This may well be a candidate for a 'central' earth salt, but it would also need the 'cooperation of the heavens' to become our alchemical subject matter (unless we are satisfied to remain in the realm of advanced spagyrics, with the plant oils and the alcohol).

Maybe this is where Celestial Fire comes into play. I have suspicion that Lion's paw process has something to do with electricity.



I didn't gather from the videos if he mentions the spiritualization (volatilization) of the obtained salts as well... Does he?

He states the salts need to be raised and turn red but without the oil and alcohol. At this stage i am not sure if raising means volatization but it coud be...

Andro
04-04-2015, 03:30 PM
He states the salts needs to be raised and turn red but without the oil's and alcohol.

In this case, I am satisfied :)

The 'Celestial Fire' will replace the oil/alcohol surrogates.

Thank you.

True Initiate
04-04-2015, 03:35 PM
Don't forget to download the book!

Dragonsblood
04-06-2015, 04:00 PM
The techniques gathered from the penalties and other simbols of the first 3 initiations, Entered Apprentice, Fellow Craft and then Master Mason can be used for Ormus, or using e.g. acacia (the Master was buried under a sprig of acacia - thus in one sense acacia root) DMT production. The later degrees such as Rose Croix more explicitly hint at the True Stone that should be the focus of the stone mason's attention. Unless you join one of the rare lodges that is not just a old boys club there is zero chance of true knowledge being directly available - it is however there in the symbols, but the the symbols are available in updated ways in various other places / hidden in plain sight. For interest sake the masonic charity Scottish Rite funded the recent studies into DMT for medical research..

True Initiate
04-06-2015, 10:25 PM
Can you suggest us where should we search for the hidden knowledge? I chose Albert Pikes books since he describes the Scotish Rite system as a wholle.

Dragonsblood
04-07-2015, 04:57 PM
Wish there was an easy answer. In my experience a lot of masonic writing and symbol is just dry skeletal theory and less likely to provide alchemical clues than texts on alchemy. The alchemical teachings, noted by Fucanelli, which the "Masons" of Notre Dame displayed is as good as one would get anywhere. Feeling the energies stirred by the sights, sounds and smells, as well as the physical movements of a lodge - where the various officers stand in to invoke and represent cosmic forces - cannot be transmitted in writing. Masonry is a group activity, whereas alchemy (mainly of the spiritual kind) is what a Mason is nudged to do (between the lines) as individual practice. Group experience and revelation rarely has the same intensity as individual breakthrough/initiation. There are masonic "secrets" revealed in symbolic form related to e.g. the energy bodies and centres, the afterlife, the "gods" and similar things. Masonry also teaches organisational skills, charity, bookkeeping, actual architecture, a moral code that allows higher energies to flow and hidden faculties to develop. My feeling is that masonry in its present form helped modern western civilisation as much as it could in its present form - culminating e.g. in the establishment of the United States as an experiment to raising man a little more and establish the technologies required for further progress globally. The hidden core which inspired masonry is no doubt building / inspiring another system to raise a more connected world as One. If you look at books such as Manly P. Hall's The Secret Teachings of All Ages you can see the golden thread our "Elder Brethren "have laid out throughout history. Apologies if this was unhelpful, will get off the soapbox..

True Initiate
04-07-2015, 05:45 PM
By the way are you a Mason yourself?

Dragonsblood
04-07-2015, 07:31 PM
I was - found the rigidity stifling; some of my friends are still progressing with their initiations and from the 18th degree (Rose Croix) I can at least hint at alchemy.
Given a choice I prefer alchemy as it allows for the Divine Feminine (e.g. Notre Dame) and aims for balance and Oneness.
Guessing the progression goes Mason, Rosicrucian, Illumination and then on to the the Inner/Higher Planes

True Initiate
04-12-2015, 12:27 PM
I have found another clue how to turn Hogan's secret white salt into a Red Lion. The hint is to be found in his other book The 32 Secret Paths of Solomon.

http://img280.imagevenue.com/loc567/th_828886231_32Paths_122_567lo.jpg (http://img280.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=828886231_32Paths_122_567lo.jpg)

In the Chapter How and Why? he talks about medallions that are carved in Notre Dame cathedral. He makes a comment regarding this medallion.

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This medalion shows one of the last stages in which a Templar holds a lion shield extending it's paw. It was associated with one of the last stages of fire calcinations and the completion of the "Red Lion" in alchemy. In Freemasonry it relates to the Master Mason degree.

Those who bothered to read the book by Mr. Hogan should know by now that he linked the first 3 masonic degrees with 3 phases of the Great Work. In the third degree ritual Hiram Abiff is dead and needs to be raised back to life through a strong grip of Master Mason called the Lion's Paw.


http://img261.imagevenue.com/loc179/th_840310463_LionsPaw_122_179lo.jpg (http://img261.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=840310463_LionsPaw_122_179lo.jpg)

The Mason firmly grasps the right hand of a fellow Mason. The thumbs of both hands are interlaced. The first Mason presses the tops of his fingers against the wrist of the fellow Mason where it unites with the hand. The fellow Mason at the same time presses his fingers against the corresponding part of the the first Mason's hand and the fingers of each are somewhat apart. This grip is also called the Strong Grip of the Master Mason or the Lion's Paw. Instruction for this grip is given at the "graveside", after the candidate has been "raised".

In practice after the extraction of secret salt (ormus?) it needs to be calcined with fire to redness and it seems this how Hogan's Red Lion is prepared. Has anyone ever calcined Ormus material with high heat?

True Initiate
04-12-2015, 02:40 PM
For those interested in discovering all the secrets of this Path and who wanna get involved in this Quest for the Holy Grail you should know that there are many articles written by Mr. Hogan dealing with Alchemy but exclusively published for the eyes and ears of masonic intiates.

Every single one of those listed below contains a gem and throws more rays of light on his process. Most of these can be purchsed on Amazon and other places but i am one man army and my budget is limited.

The New Hermetics Equinox Journal volume 5, with an article entitled “Spagyrics and the Creation of Vegetable Elixirs”.

http://img211.imagevenue.com/loc1075/th_884700479_Hermeticjournal_122_1075lo.jpg (http://img211.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=884700479_Hermeticjournal_122_1075lo .jpg)

Living Stones Masonic Magazine December 2014 Volume 4 issue 7, with an article entitled "Performing the Great Work".

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The Colorado Grand Lodge Education Primer Volume II, along with Dr. Jim Tresner and Roger Tigner, with a section entitled "Hermetic and Gnostic Influences on the Craft".

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The New Hermetics Equinox Journal volume 4, with an article entitled “The Alchemical Influence on the Esoteric Tradition”.

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The Scottish Rite Journal, March-April 2013, with a featured article entitled “Morals and Dogma: A Alchemical Perspective”.

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Heredom vol. 17, published by the Scottish Rite Research Society, with an article entitled the “Hermetic Influence on Freemasonry”.

http://img209.imagevenue.com/loc22/th_847328359_Heredom_122_22lo.jpg (http://img209.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=847328359_Heredom_122_22lo.jpg)

Ad Lucem issue XVIII of 2011, with an article entitled “Nicolas Flamel- An Important Figure from the Practicus Lecture”.

The Scottish Rite Journal, Colorado Supplement, Sept-Oct. 2008, with an article entitled “Bridging the Gap in Masonry”.

Masonic Short Talk Bulletin Vol. 89, No. 11: November, 2011

theFool
04-12-2015, 03:10 PM
In practice after the extraction of secret salt (ormus?) it needs to be calcined with fire to redness and it seems this how Hogan's Red Lion is prepared. Has anyone ever calcined Ormus material with high heat? I've seen various impure ormus precipitates to transform from white to black when calcined, but not red.

In my understanding, simple calcination is not enough to perform this "elevation" because the "ormus" or "secret salt" material has been already calcined when the plant ashes were calcined (and it doesn't change to red). The process of taking it to the red form requires of course the strong heat, but probably a vacuum vessel also. I base this assumption on Hudson's patent and some posts of Don Nance who has accomplished to take the "secret salt" (extracted from gold in his case) into the red form.


We can also 'rubify' any white precipitate (that actually contains the "stealth
atoms") by vacuum drying them and then repeatedly calcining them (which is very
similar to David Hudsons' "annealing" process). Eventually you get to red.

True Initiate
04-12-2015, 03:35 PM
This is in line with what Mr. Hogan states in the book. The salt will at first turn black and then red.

http://img284.imagevenue.com/loc401/th_853211276_5_122_401lo.jpg (http://img284.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=853211276_5_122_401lo.jpg)

It was associated with one of the last stages of fire calcinations and the completion of the "Red Lion" in alchemy. In Freemasonry it relates to the Master Mason degree.

He speaks of calcinations in plural which means that there are few of them and it is still not clear what fires are used in the process. I am still piecing together Hogan's Path but we are making some progress. I wonder if Don Nance is aware of Hogan's work?

theFool
04-12-2015, 04:12 PM
This is in line with what Mr. Hogan states in the book. The salt will at first turn black and then red. Then maybe it needs lengthier heating or more cycles. But first, the method of making the ormus very pure must be mastered.


I wonder if Don Nance is aware of Hogan's work? Hm, I doubt it.

True Initiate
04-12-2015, 04:20 PM
Don Nance is the guy who runs Ocean Alchemy website, right? How about one of us contacts him and shows him this video? Maybe this could bring him to open himself a little more about his Red Lion by commenting Hogan's work?
Will you do it or should i take a shot at it but i am not an expert on Ormus. I feel i am not qualified to ask him the right questions. To be honest i thought Ormus was Hudson's scheme for scaming people but i changed my mind on this.

theFool
04-12-2015, 05:39 PM
Yes, he runs Ocean Alchemy website. If you initiate a conversation with him, I could support you with the "technical" issues. Before some years, he could be reached through Barry Carter's "ormus forums" but he is no longer active. Also, dev may have an idea on how to contact him; he is researching ormus lately.

Probably, Hudson's patent gives a detailed explanation on how to isolate the "secret salt" from gold and gives also hints for the "elevation" of it to the red form.
Don Nance has published a shorter method with H2O2 and gold. I have attempted to follow those processes but did not obtain the final results. This is because of my limited lab ability and small effort. Until I make those processes work (sometime...) I don't have something more to ask him for the time being.

True Initiate
04-12-2015, 06:01 PM
I have sent an e-mail to SwiftRock@juno.com


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Bennu
04-13-2015, 03:34 AM
Hi, Group.
I am not aware that Hudson ever promoted his "orbitally rearranged monatomic elements" as ormus. From what I can determine (and this is all from my own lengthy efforts of fact finding, subject to error) Barry started intermingling the two, such that ormus and ormes are not now recognized as being different substances. To my understanding, Hudson's efforts were focused on recovering Au and PGE monatomics from igneous sources, then converting the metals to a monatomic state and reversal back to metal. Trying to recover monatomic elements from sea water, DSS or Salt Lake salt was a later concept. Actually, if you read "Ormus" by pharmacist Chris Emmons, the end result of many of her referenced processes is magnesium hydroxide.
If you have a copy of Bartlett's "Way of the Crucible" look at pages 108-111 in the chapter tilted "Jewish Alchemy". He references a PhD chemist who made monatomic gold by an "alternate" (my description) method akin to Hudson and a few milligrams had very powerful effects. Later when small amounts were shared with the author and others the effects had disappeared, seemingly confirming rumors that the monatomic element has to be some how "charged" to produce its mind and conscious altering effects. I have a pdf if anyone wants to read it.
Does anyone know how to contact Bartlett? He seems to be acquainted with some people who know the processes?

theFool
04-13-2015, 06:50 AM
Hello Bennu,

I am not aware that Hudson ever promoted his "orbitally rearranged monatomic elements" as ormus. From what I can determine (and this is all from my own lengthy efforts of fact finding, subject to error) Barry started intermingling the two, such that ormus and ormes are not now recognized as being different substances. Yes, you are right about the terminology. We should use the word "ormus" for the unclean salts isolated from various sources. Ormus contains ormes plus some contaminating salt (MgOH, CaOH, ...). We suppose here that the ormes is the secret salt mentioned in the video.



If you have a copy of Bartlett's "Way of the Crucible" look at pages 108-111 in the chapter tilted "Jewish Alchemy". He references a PhD chemist who made monatomic gold by an "alternate" (my description) method akin to Hudson and a few milligrams had very powerful effects. There is no chapter tilted "Jewish Alchemy" in that book, neither this story can be found at 108-111 pages; except I have a very old version of the book.

True Initiate
04-13-2015, 06:54 AM
This is Bartlett website:
http://www.spagyricus.com/

you can contact him through:
https://www.spagyricus.com/about-spagyricus/contact

Don't forget to share with us what he told you!

Awani
04-13-2015, 07:07 AM
Don Nance is the guy who runs Ocean Alchemy website, right? How about one of us contacts him and shows him this video? Maybe this could bring him to open himself a little more about his Red Lion by commenting Hogan's work?
Will you do it or should i take a shot at it but i am not an expert on Ormus. I feel i am not qualified to ask him the right questions. To be honest i thought Ormus was Hudson's scheme for scaming people but i changed my mind on this.

Episode 26 + 27 (out a week from now) will deal 100 % with Ormus. Both pro and anti. www.naturalbornalchemist.com

Hudson is a bit of a scammer IMO, but then again he is just doing his run of the mill American styled salesman ship. Watch the extras (and the film) All the gold you can eat... www.allthegoldyoucaneat.com... got a bit of Don Nance in it. Seems like cool guy.


Also, dev may have an idea on how to contact him; he is researching ormus lately.

Well I just talked to Barry and the director of the Ormus film... that director should know how to contact him I am sure. www.allthegoldyoucaneat.com/#dc

:cool:

True Initiate
04-13-2015, 02:02 PM
I noticed a small detail in the video. When he zooms in to show how the Manna precipitates there is some writing on a small bottle which i think makes NaCl.

http://img283.imagevenue.com/loc375/th_932209114_Formula_122_375lo.jpg (http://img283.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=932209114_Formula_122_375lo.jpg)

I was expecting to see NaOH but there it is. Is it possible to precipitate the Ormes with NaCl solution instead of NaOH?

theFool
04-13-2015, 06:21 PM
I noticed a small detail in the video. When he zooms in to show how the Manna precipitates there is some writing on a small bottle which i think makes NaCl. Nice catch.
NaCl has some connection with ormus, it is said that it helps to keep it into solution. There is a thought that the addition of NaCl in high pH solution, can manifest invisible ormus, but it is highly untested.

However, in that case of the video, I doubt that there is NaCl in the bottle. The red instrument he uses is a pH meter, made by Hanna (http://shop.hannainst.com/hi98103-checker-ph-tester.html?id=040003&ProdCode=HI%252098103)

If he was using NaCl he would need probably a TDS meter to check its concentration, not a pH meter. TDS meter, (primo 2) from this company (http://hannainst.com/usa/prods2.cfm?id=003003)comes in the same shape as the pH meter but in blue color, never in red.

Except if there is another company I am unaware of which uses the same shape, the instrument he has in the video is a pH meter. There is no reason to check the pH after every drop if you use NaCl !

So, I think that he wrote this label on the bottle just to confuse the innocents, or he was just clumpsy (which I also doubt given the cleanliness of his lab)

Andro
04-13-2015, 06:44 PM
I remember Jerrel's method involved NaCl. But then again, he also used electrolysis... Who knows...

The gods of Alchemy work in mysterious ways... Nothing is what it seems, unless it is :)

Ghislain
04-14-2015, 09:07 AM
NaCl isn't that far from NaOH if you just rub out a few bits...perhaps the writing is worn and faded.

Ghislain

Bennu
04-16-2015, 04:45 AM
Hi, Group.
If you have a copy of Bartlett's "Way of the Crucible" look at pages 108-111 in the chapter tilted "Jewish Alchemy". He references a PhD chemist who made monatomic gold by an "alternate" (my description) method akin to Hudson and a few milligrams had very powerful effects.

Erratum. My mistake. The book is by Robert Cox, not Bartlett. Apologies.

theFool
04-17-2015, 04:27 PM
Erratum. My mistake. The book is by Robert Cox, not Bartlett. Apologies. There are some rare info in there about the process of making the m-gold. A lengthy digestion produces white color (normal color is light-brown) and hints on the annealing procedure.

theFool
02-03-2016, 07:47 PM
My guess on how he isolates the "secret salt" in the video of the first post, is the following:

Dissolve the plant ashes in strong HCl, filter, titrate with NaOH and stop at pH ~6 (do not exceed 7). Wash the white precipitate 2-3 times to get rid of magnesium, calcium and the majority of contaminating chlorides which do not precipitate at this low pH. The yield is small but sweet ;-)

theFool
02-26-2017, 07:17 PM
My guess on how he isolates the "secret salt" in the video of the first post, is the following:

Dissolve the plant ashes in strong HCl, filter, titrate with NaOH and stop at pH ~6 (do not exceed 7). Wash the white precipitate 2-3 times to get rid of magnesium, calcium and the majority of contaminating chlorides which do not precipitate at this low pH. This salt, you can make it magnetic by heating it in a crucible to bright orange with a propane torch (butane flame has not enough temperature).

I know some will say it is iron. It is not. It behaves like iron, it mimics it very well, it has many similar chemical reactions but it is not. Lot of experimental backup exists after many lab hours. Methods to identify and isolate it. It has been my "secret" work.

A same salt can be made from gold; from the "m-state" form of gold that is usually ridiculed. Just heat it with propane torch to become magnetic. A redness can be extracted out of it too.

I'm sure some guy with knowledge and more resources than me will eventually stumble accross this post and it will help him continue this line of research. I'm spent and have stopped working long time ago. The hidden salt you look after resembles iron.

Andro
02-26-2017, 07:26 PM
This salt, you can make it magnetic by heating it in a crucible to bright orange with a propane torch (butane flame has not enough temperature).

Another example, not sure if related:

Pure Antimony, which is not at all magnetic, after melting it and then allowing it to cool, develops a grayish layer of matter that is ferromagnetic. Weird stuff :)


I'm spent and have stopped working long time ago.

That's sad to hear :( ... Is this just a long break or have you given up entirely?

theFool
02-26-2017, 08:49 PM
That's sad to hear :( ... Is this just a long break or have you given up entirely? It seems like I lost the motives for lab alchemy. They were egoistical (like "financial security" and fear of getting sick/dead). I may employ in alchemy and spirituality in other ways in future but lab work is not my primary concern as it used to be.

True Initiate
08-22-2017, 02:14 PM
Timothy Hogan has written two other books since then. I just finished reading his newest one "The Way of the Templar".
http://s30.postimg.org/wv13m1rip/41m_Vij89x_DL._SX331_BO1_204_203_200.jpg

Deals primarily with the history of the Templar Order and very few hints about alchemy. The only hint worth mentioning is on page 87:

We would do well to point out that Jesus was born in Betlehem, which means "house of bread", and is born from Maria, meaning "sea" - which is what salt comes from when the salt water is heated. The sea water gives a virgin birth to salt. Further, salt crystalizes in the shape of a cube, and when a cube is unfolded, you get a cross. Herein is found alchemical metaphors once again. From the alchemical salt is born the alchemical "blood of Christ" ... the white cube bleeds.

Of course not a word about actual operation. :(

Schmuldvich
08-22-2017, 02:37 PM
Timothy Hogan has written two other books since then. I just finished reading his newest one "The Way of the Templar".
http://s30.postimg.org/wv13m1rip/41m_Vij89x_DL._SX331_BO1_204_203_200.jpg

Deals primarily with the history of the Templar Order and very few hints about alchemy. The only hint worth mentioning is on page 87:

We would do well to point out that Jesus was born in Betlehem, which means "house of bread", and is born from Maria, meaning "sea" - which is what salt comes from when the salt water is heated. The sea water gives a virgin birth to salt. Further, salt crystalizes in the shape of a cube, and when a cube is unfolded, you get a cross. Herein is found alchemical metaphors once again. From the alchemical salt is born the alchemical "blood of Christ" ... the white cube bleeds.

Of course not a word about actual operation. :(

Super cool! Thanks for sharing, TI!