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Andro
01-12-2015, 04:41 PM
Authored by Pierre Teilhard de Chardin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre_Teilhard_de_Chardin), the book 'The Phenomenon Of Man' was first published in 1955, after the Author's death.

It is not strictly an 'Alchemical' text, yet somehow it is :)

Some of the concepts are quite Hermetic/Gnostic at their foundations, and I personally think it's well worth the read.

It can be also read online HERE (http://holybooks.lichtenbergpress.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/Phenomenon-of-Man-by-Pierre-Teilhard-de-Chardin.pdf).

pierre
05-18-2015, 08:25 PM
Oh, man!
I love Pierre Teilhard de Chardin.
The man had a very special inner light.
I have a couple of books that I reread occasionally .
I never saw his writings from an alchemical view.
But I guess Im gonna do now!

Regards A.

Michael Sternbach
05-19-2015, 08:25 AM
Thanks Androgynus for bringing Teilhard de Chardin into the discussion. I still see hope for you! ;)

As I at least strongly implied in another reply to you recently on another thread, all of Creation is evolving towards its Omega Point.

That is Alchemy for you!

Best,
Michael

Andro
05-19-2015, 01:20 PM
I still see hope for you!

Forget about me, I'm hopeless.

I do, however, pity those who are still undergoing the torture of hope (http://gaslight.mtroyal.ca/villier5.htm).


That is Alchemy for you!

As for Alchemy...


Lasciate ogne speranza, voi ch'intrate.http://i861.photobucket.com/albums/ab172/androgynus_album/keep-calm-and-abandon-all-hope-2_zpsjaxkh6t0.jpg

That is Alchemy for you :cool:
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Oh, and I never saw the Omega Point/Christogenesis model as implying any sort of physical 'immortality' (discussed on the other thread (http://forum.alchemyforums.com/showthread.php?978-Philosopher-s-Stone-and-Immortality.&p=38438#post38438)).

Michael Sternbach
05-19-2015, 07:54 PM
Forget about me, I'm hopeless.

I do, however, pity those who are still undergoing the torture of hope (http://gaslight.mtroyal.ca/villier5.htm).

Oh, you seem to belong to the Nihilist camp then. Nice meeting you.




As for Alchemy...

http://i861.photobucket.com/albums/ab172/androgynus_album/keep-calm-and-abandon-all-hope-2_zpsjaxkh6t0.jpg

That is Alchemy for you :cool:

The Hades thing, I would say that is Hellenistic Greek Alchemy (at best) for you.:D But hey, already Poimandres is far more optimistic, and that's the guy Zosimos meets in his famous dream after all. You might be an old Stoic or pessimist Gnostic then.

Personally, I somehow feel closer to later representatives of our Art such as Flamel and Fulcanelli anyway. Nobody on this forum interested in talking about them? ;)


Oh, and I never saw the Omega Point/Christogenesis model as implying any sort of physical 'immortality' (discussed on the other thread (http://forum.alchemyforums.com/showthread.php?978-Philosopher-s-Stone-and-Immortality.&p=38438#post38438)).

Well, so it would seem. My proposal here is that the perfection of the physical is linked with its long lasting as implied in the ancients' use of Gold as a symbol for that exalted state.

Without this as a basic premise, it is impossible to fully understand the ancients. But that is just my opinion.

Andro
05-19-2015, 08:51 PM
Flamel & Fulcanelli are discussed quite a bit on other threads, if you search the forums.

As for the humoring attempts to categorize/classify me personally, I'd say it would be far more productive to focus on the original thread topic :)

What is you view of the Omega Point/Christogenesis model and of Teilhard's philosophy in general?

Michael Sternbach
05-19-2015, 09:53 PM
I find it in agreement with the Aristotelian teaching of the Causa Finalis. The Omega Point, the Cosmic Christ, the Philosopher's Stone, the New Jerusalem, they are all describing the same, in essence.