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Awani
04-27-2015, 10:39 PM
One piece of evidence that I really like from the Ancient Astronaut theory (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_astronaut_hypothesis) is this concept in regards to the God Ganesha:

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h18/deviadah/forum/baby-ganesh_29_zpsxcoavh9l.jpg

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h18/deviadah/forum/eGd0cGNlMTI_o_fighter-pilot-operation-red-flag-hd-part-25_zpszryj3awm.jpg

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Awani
04-27-2015, 10:44 PM
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h18/deviadah/forum/9189283_zps4b8e8de2.jpg

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Ilos
04-27-2015, 10:48 PM
So Dev, what you mean to say is that, people before they had no art? that all they did was craft sculptures of real events? To me that looks like an ritual suit or some kind of artistic credibility.

Awani
04-27-2015, 11:03 PM
If you study indigenous culture they often, in their art, portray things around them... things they see. What is the first thing a child draws when it starts mastering its hand? A house. Mommy. Usually.

So there are two possible theories. One is the A.A. theory, another is the fact that these people were high as fuck, tripping their nuts off and thus creating art from those experiences. This has also been documented. In the end it is speculation.

When a spectacular things happens to you. If you are abducted, initiated, leave your body etc... if you have an amazing experience and you have artistic skills then you are not going to sculpt a flower when you can sculpt the gods you met in heaven.

Not saying it is so, I am saying it might well be...

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Awani
04-27-2015, 11:09 PM
Or one of these...

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h18/deviadah/forum/how-man-was-created_zpslyqhtarl.jpg

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h18/deviadah/forum/0518c5f6119e_zpsmnowx3k4.jpg

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Ilos
04-28-2015, 09:44 AM
There are possibilities that we should stay open to, yea I am all for that. Even in Egypt, people are so fascinated with the pyramids (of course that I am to) but thinking that they couldn't be done by human hand would be like thinking that Mona Lisa portrait was painted by the hand of god, or something like that.
Sometimes people underestimate our ancestors (oh all they had was some bronze spears), not exactly, I believe they had some really superior technique, maybe not in a mechanical way, but their logic and understanding of nature was more prudent than people do now.
Do I really believe that there are aliens? Yea. Do I really think that they roamed our planet? Yea. Do I think that they helped us build stone temples? Nah that's just bizarre.
I don't know why but sometimes I think that its us humans the ones that gonna visit another specie first than anyone to visit us.

Awani
04-28-2015, 10:04 PM
I don't know why but sometimes I think that its us humans the ones that gonna visit another specie first than anyone to visit us.

Probably, but if we are talking inter-dimensional aliens a la Indiana Jones 4 then I think they are already here... ;)


Do I really think that they roamed our planet? Yea. Do I think that they helped us build stone temples? Nah that's just bizarre...

If humans vanished this would happen:


After 1000 years: The Eiffel Tower has lost all but its four legs. The rest of it has fallen down and been covered by soil and vegetation. The Statue of Liberty has fallen to pieces, and only its pedestal still stands, but this concrete pedestal could last thousands of years.

After 25 000 years: Earth enters a new Ice Age, and glaciers expand south covering most of the Northern Hemisphere. The last traces of New York City are completely erased... However, evidence left by Moon exploration missions and certain plastic items will survive intact for not only thousands, but millions of years after mankind has vanished. They will be the last legacy of the human race.

Source: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aftermath:_Population_Zero (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aftermath:_Population_Zero#.281.2C000_years_A.H..2 9)

I did some research and plastic might vanish quicker than millions of years, but even if it is a couple of thousands of years it is still short enough in the span of our race to make it possible for a very advanced ancient civilization. So maybe I am not 100 % on board the Alien Astronaut theory, but certainly the theory that some previously enigmatic ancient but highly advanced civilization had existed in prehistory, one which served as the common progenitor civilization to all subsequent known ancient historical ones. (source (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fingerprints_of_the_Gods))

That our advanced ways started 7000 years ago (or so) is stupid, IMO.

Consider that our ancestors were around 6 million years ago there is plenty of time for our race to have reached to our current level at least one time previously. So either we had a 2015 level of life 4 million years ago and then something happened and we lost it all... and it took us a few million years to get back to our current level... or we had alien help because the mainstream answer that the stone blocks below were carved with stone tools and chicken bones and that they were moved from the quarry with wooden rollers is even more ridiculous.

Pumapunku (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pumapunku)

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h18/deviadah/forum/20111027-205717_zpsr0ifrfwd.jpg

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Ilos
04-29-2015, 12:15 AM
True indeed Dev, I have to say that there's the big dilemma, nobody really knows theoretically for sure how they managed to build structures like that, until we do its good to stay open minded and consider all sorts of alternatives.
I have seen a couple of thees films about ancient aliens and as you know it to, they all have thees theories and evidences that try and prove the fact that it was all the work of some alien agenda. I have to be honest that they do seem interesting and intriguing but still cant convince me of such belief.
Think of it this way, the pyramids are the most mysterious and most wonders in the world right? How about maybe the Egyptians living on earth for thousands of years in a nice community that were educated and had already developed a social system, maybe they also had the technique of working with the stone perfectly, maybe they didn't had to cut and lift those stones maybe the pyramid is all artificial, they could of just made the stones chemically. (some wooden structure, some sand, water and some chemical compound and there you go) you have yourself the first limestone. What if they had some sort of volcano magma and they collected that magma and just gave it a square form slowly all the way to the top of the pyramid.
Now the conspiracy theories about aliens they just seem as a way to escape from thinking of the possibilities, as in to say; nah we cant do that, but aliens could!
Think about ti, why does it always have to do with the history , why only in that past life, why only than; the aliens!, Moses!, Jesus!, Muhamed!, and on, and on.
Where are the intelligent outsiders now? Where are the prophets now? So they just came, fucked with our DNA, fucked with our minds and left? I don't know man maybe we are to be careful what we read and how we perceive things.

Ghislain
04-29-2015, 07:31 AM
Ilos, today they are looking for people who would take a one way ride to Mars. Perhaps that is what happened...they came, they saw, they stayed.

Perhaps the Pyramids were a beacon for others that may come; there are many possibilities.

I did a tour of the temples in Egypt and the guides official take on the building of the Pyramids was that they built earth slopes at an optimal angle of 37 degrees (I think). Using these slopes they dragged the huge stones to where they were needed.

They showed us some unfinished works where the earth slope was still intact.

But that was just the general consensus, who can really tell what happened?

Ghislain

Ilos
04-29-2015, 09:41 AM
Man power baby, working together can build wonders. :D
http://cdn.phys.org/newman/gfx/news/2014/wallpainting.jpg