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thoth
08-10-2015, 09:07 PM
I came across an interesting mention on lemon balm and the indication that it may contain Harmine - or possibly its flowrers contain harmine.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melissa_officinalis - see the section on chemistry - last line

A follow on from that is honey bees focus on flowers that contain harmine. So the favorite flowers of honey bees may contain the highest levels of harmine.
Possible candidates for investigation (maybe using chromatography) are sunflowers and marigolds.

archerner
08-12-2015, 02:14 PM
Here's a pretty in depth look at harmine in plants.
http://www.jofsr.com/index.php/path/article/download/30/21
It's interesting that harmine is fluorescent and that bees can see it glow.

Ghislain
08-13-2015, 12:40 AM
A very interesting post Thoth and article Archerner.

Check out THIS (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harmala_alkaloid)

Ghislain

Kiorionis
08-13-2015, 11:51 AM
The relevant parts from the wiki link?


members of a group of substances with a similar chemical structure collectively known as harmala alkaloids. These alkaloids are of interest for their use in Amazonian shamanism, where they are derived from other plants.


Harmala alkaloids are also found in the Banisteriopsis caapi vine, the key plant ingredient in the sacramental beverage Ayahuasca, in concentrations that range between 0.31-8.43% for harmine, 0.03-0.83% for harmaline and 0.05-2.94% for tetrahydroharmine.[3] Although other psychoactive plants are occasionally added to Ayahuasca to achieve visionary states of consciousness, the recipes vary greatly and no single combination is common. Peganum harmala, normally consumed as a tea or used as an incense, is mentioned in classical Persian literature both as a sacred sacrament and as a medicine. The harmala alkaloids are not especially psychedelic, even at higher dosages, when hypnagogic visions, alongside vomiting and diarrhea, become the main effect.

archerner
08-13-2015, 03:17 PM
Are we working on making Melissausca? Or just trying to access the harmine within Melissa?
Maybe Orange leaves and melissa brewed together could have some effect.
Harmine by itself doesn't seem very beneficial, read a report on erowid. https://www.erowid.org/chemicals/harmala/harmala.shtml

thoth
08-15-2015, 04:10 PM
Maybe Orange leaves and melissa brewed together could have some effect.

Do you mean the leaves from an ordinary orange tree ?

That was an interesting research. If harmaline alkaloids cause tremors, I wonder if the other components of Ayahausca containig DMT, would have an effect against Parkinsons

archerner
08-15-2015, 06:46 PM
Do you mean the leaves from an ordinary orange tree ?

That was an interesting research. If harmaline alkaloids cause tremors, I wonder if the other components of Ayahausca containig DMT, would have an effect against Parkinsons

Yeah from what Ive read the orange trees growing all our oj in florida could produce kilos of DMT from the leaves.
http://the-nexian.me/home/knowledge/112-citrus-growers-manufacture-huge-amounts-of-dmt