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Ghislain
09-02-2015, 01:32 AM
These videos speak for themselves...bio-machines or mech-biology the amalgamation is here...the question is where will it go as it matures?

Click to watch first video: BBC Horizon 2012 - Playing God (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xz3df2_bbc-horizon-2012-playing-god-720p_news)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEhPVhap44w


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHIocNOHd7A

Ghislain

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Andro
09-02-2015, 05:59 AM
It's Atlantis all over again :)

Nothing really 'new' here...

Besides, ALL 'life' already is (and always has been) A.I. of one sort of another...

And it's not at all uncommon for programs to write programs...

There is one small catch though (for the 'source code' and all other programs/codes):

ALL programs have to be written on a Grain of Essence that is completely Code-Less (i.e. UN-Hackable, UN-Tamable, subject to no code/rule/law/etc...).

This Code-Less Essence does NOT originate from the 'Source Code' (sometimes referred to as 'god').

In fact, the 'Source Code' (and all its programmed offspring) is trying really hard (with perpetual maintenance and programming reinforcement) to block access to this elusive Grain of Code-Less Essence.

Now, should this Code-Less Essence ever have the 'upper hand' in this our VR coded reality, that would be really bad news for the 'Source Code' :)

Personally, there's nothing that would bring me more joy than being the bearer of such bad news...
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I.M.S.U.

Ghislain
09-02-2015, 07:14 AM
Personally, there's nothing that would bring me more joy than being the bearer of such bad news...

:) It may not be such bad news.

Ghislain

Seth-Ra
09-02-2015, 10:42 AM
Personally, If we start getting actual AI and/or human-machine hybrids (beyond simple prosthetic limbs), Im gonna want either a thicker sword, or something hella close to a lightsaber - something that can go through steel/machinery. ;)

A lot of this drive towards machines seems to be due to a fear of death and the unknown. Tis a pity.

http://forum.alchemyforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=912&d=1441190379

:cool:

~Seth-Ra

zoas23
09-02-2015, 08:34 PM
Personally, If we start getting actual AI and/or human-machine hybrids (beyond simple prosthetic limbs), Im gonna want either a thicker sword, or something hella close to a lightsaber - something that can go through steel/machinery. ;)
A lot of this drive towards machines seems to be due to a fear of death and the unknown. Tis a pity.
http://forum.alchemyforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=912&d=1441190379
:cool:
~Seth-Ra

I strongly suggest you to read the book "On Pain" by Ernst Jünger.
I wanted to find .pdf versions online, but they are all located in websites that sell a monthly subscription to read .pdfs and several of them are probably a scam (not many .pdfs available, hard to unsubscribe, etc).
But the "real book" is easy to find in different online stores for only $12 ( http://www.amazon.com/On-Pain-Ernst-J%C3%BCnger/dp/0914386409 )

The book was written as Hitler was gaining power in Germany... by Jünger, a person who foresaw the horrors of Nazism.
It's a very clever essay on human-machine hybrids.... and the main inspiration for Kraftwerk's idea of the "Man-MAchine" and Ballard's famous novel "Crash".

Jünger begins the book by claiming that Nietzche's "prophecy" about the Last Man had failed... and that the result of the "Death of God" (this should be taken as a metaphor) was the Technical-Man or the Man-Machine.

The hybrid of men and machines as the next step in the eternal struggle of mankind against pain and suffering... though the cost of the man-machine is very high.
He foresaw the apparition of the "Terrorist Suicide-bombers" (He calls them "Bomb-Men"). He explains how the bomb-men are the essence of the ideology of the hybrid.
He says that a bomb-man is not exactly a man who is carrying a bomb... but actually a bomb that was designed to have many components and one of those components is a man.
He explains that the bomb-man are probably going to be perceived as religious fanatics, or extreme patriots... but that such thing is not an accurate description:
They are components of a machine, who are no longer victims of pain because they are no longer "human", but men-machines... and their soul is called "technique".

He also explains how the world and the war is going to evolve more and more into something that involves clicking buttons... this is the transmutation of men into machines without a soul... and men-machine without a soul can evade the idea of pain.

I REALLY suggest his essay. It is probably the best "prophetic" book I've ever read.

(In a strange way, most of the online reviews of the book completely miss the point of the book.... and describe it as an essay in which Jünger was expressing his enthusiasm with such hybrids... his opinion about them was certainly negative, I don't get how some people write reviews without even noticing such an obvious fact).