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Ghislain
09-24-2015, 07:51 AM
I didn't want to start this thread with a 9/11 conspiracy theory video, but after watching it, it was a no-brainer.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ddR5D_lmOk

This is 1:20:00 long, but well worth the time.

If you feel that something was definitely wrong in the official report of what happened at the WTC disaster then
watch the next video link, but be prepared for it is 3:28:00 long, but again well worth the time.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1Qt6a-vaNM

I think it is time we wake everyone up.

I would love to see some feedback of any information that disproves, or cast reasonable doubt on, the material in the videos above.

Ghislain

zoas23
09-26-2015, 02:07 AM
The CAUSE of the 9/11 is by far less interesting than the CONSEQUENCES.

I do not think the CAUSE is so important (my own opinion is very much that I agree with the "official version").

The consequences it had were (and are) in my opinion, by far more "scary" and "dangerous" than the 9/11 itself.

Ghislain
09-26-2015, 03:32 AM
Zoas, Did you watch the videos before posting?

Ghislain

zoas23
09-26-2015, 04:58 AM
Zoas, Did you watch the videos before posting?

Ghislain

Only parts of them. They are similar to other 1,000 videos I've already seen (unless I missed the "good part").

I do not really believe in the "false flag" theory for the 9/11... but I do believe that the government of the USA used the incident (without caring who caused it) to create something that is a million times worse than the 9/11 itself.

When it comes to conspiracies... I do believe in them, except that I often think that the BIG conspiracies are never "hidden" or "hard to investigate", but visible in plain sight and very obvious: i.e, what the American government did as a result of the 9/11... that's the BIG conspiracy for me.

Ghislain
09-26-2015, 08:33 AM
The first link was to a detailed in depth explanation as to what happened by a group of about 30 experts including architects, demolition experts, metallurgists and psychologists.

I stopped following the internet posts on the issue some years ago and was very surprised to see so much extra information.

I get the same response from many people, but when I talk to them it is quite apparent they have not watched the videos.

The second link is to a much more in depth look at the whole history of an elite group and the build up to 9/11 starting well before WWI.

Zoas, I noticed you say you don't believe in the false flag theory. I believe anyone who has watched the first video would have to concede that it is a false flag fact. That is why I asked if anyone had any info to disprove the material in the video, without which I would have to say it is a forgone conclusion that a very high agency orchestrated the whole event.

I find it a shame that people will not ask for a reopening of the case where over 3500 people lost their lives when such a shabby investigation was initially carried out by NIST.

As I have no idea of how much information the reader has I would ask them to watch both videos from beginning to end before making any preconceived judgement.

A campaign to call for the reopening of the case is being made and at present it has 2,349 Architect and Engineer signatories and 20,301 layperson signatories, which I believe is a crying shame when millions put their likes to some crap trivia on facebook.

Just take a scroll through the list of these 2,349 Engineers (http://www.ae911truth.org/signatures/ae.html#M) and see their qualifications.

http://dingo.care2.com/pictures/c2c/share/36/366/616/3661638_370.jpg (http://www.ae911truth.org/)

I would ask people to refrain from posting comments if they have not watched at least the first of the videos.

Ghislain

Ghislain
09-26-2015, 10:21 AM
Having re-watched the first video above I would like to correct one of my previous statements about the number of people who died as a result of the 9/11 catastrophe.


The attacks resulted in the deaths of 2,996 people, including the 19 hijackers. The 2,977 victims included 246 on the four planes (from which there were no survivors), 2,606 in the World Trade Center and in the surrounding area, and 125 at the Pentagon.

Ghislain

Ghislain
09-26-2015, 10:28 AM
I would like to enter into evidence the fireproof passport of one of the hijacker's that was found at the 9/11 scene.

http://unir1news.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/suqami-bio-page.jpg

Ghislain

Awani
09-26-2015, 04:05 PM
The attacks resulted in the deaths of 2,996 people, including the 19 hijackers. The 2,977 victims included 246 on the four planes (from which there were no survivors), 2,606 in the World Trade Center and in the surrounding area, and 125 at the Pentagon...

Let's not forget the (circa) 1 500 000 innocent Iraqis who died during the US invasion for something they didn't do... but that is another story (https://www.nationalpriorities.org/cost-of/) I guess.

:cool:

zoas23
09-26-2015, 08:18 PM
The first link was to a detailed in depth explanation as to what happened by a group of about 30 experts including architects, demolition experts, metallurgists and psychologists.

I stopped following the internet posts on the issue some years ago and was very surprised to see so much extra information.

I get the same response from many people, but when I talk to them it is quite apparent they have not watched the videos.

The second link is to a much more in depth look at the whole history of this elite group and the build up to 9/11 starting well before WWI.

Zoas, I noticed you say you don't believe in the false flag theory. I believe anyone who has watched the first video would have to concede that it is a false flag fact. That is why I asked if anyone had any info to disprove the material in the video, without which I would have to say it is a forgone conclusion that a very high agency orchestrated the whole event.

I find it a shame that people will not ask for a reopening of the case where over 3500 people lost their lives when such a shabby investigation was initially carried out by NIST.

As I have no idea of how much information the reader has I would ask them to watch both videos from beginning to end before making any preconceived judgement.

A campaign to call for the reopening of the case is being made and at present it has 2,349 Architect and Engineer signatories and 20,301 layperson signatories, which I believe is a crying shame when millions put their likes to some crap trivia on facebook.

Just take a scroll through the list of these 2,349 Engineers (http://www.ae911truth.org/signatures/ae.html#M) and see their qualifications.

http://dingo.care2.com/pictures/c2c/share/36/366/616/3661638_370.jpg (http://www.ae911truth.org/)

I would ask people to refrain from posting comments if they have not watched at least the first of the videos.

Ghislain

Probably you are American (just guessing). I am not.

My point of view is simply based on the issue that there was a terrorist group (Al-Qaeda) which had the means to crash a plane, the intention to cause a terrorist attack (the one in the USA was big, but it's still one among many all over the world) and the political objective of causing it.

I discard the "flas flag" mostly because Al-Qaeda existed and terrorist attacks was part of their "mission". But it can be a "false flag", I can't say it's 100% impossible, but in my opinion it's unlikely.

As I've said, you are probably American so this issue has more relevance to you (simply because of geographical distance, not even "nationalism"), but I am sensitive too.

Wether it was a "false flag" or not, I think the KEY point is what happened as a REACTION to the 9/11... we are ALL still living the consequences.

Ghislain
09-26-2015, 08:29 PM
No I'm not American Zoas I'm about 7,000 miles away, just as no "Al-Qaeda" terrorists carried out the 9/11 attacks.

It is almost certain that those buildings were brought down by controlled demolition.

Watch the video/s!!

Ghislain

P.S. I was born in the UK but I have no nationality as we are all inhabitants of one tiny planet.

zoas23
09-26-2015, 09:02 PM
No I'm not American Zoas I'm about 7,000 miles away, just as no "Al-Qaeda" terrorists carried out the 9/11 attacks.

It is almost certain that those buildings were brought down by controlled demolition.

Watch the video/s!!

Ghislain

P.S. I was born in the UK but I have no nationality as we are all inhabitants of one tiny planet.

I think the same way.
Yet I understand that sometimes the most "local" issues are often more "interesting" for most of us. Even if they are "normal" issues (i.e, I am very concerned about the corruption of the government in Argentina, whilst I can't say that I spend a lot of time thinking about the corruption of, say, the government of Mongolia... and it's not because I have anything against the Mongolians).

But the "Cosmpolitan" is always the ideal, I agree.