View Full Version : Love Torn in a Dream / Combat d'amour en songe by Raul Ruiz (movie)

04-25-2016, 07:27 AM
I went to the cinema today and watched an amazing film:
Love Torn in a Dream / Combat d'amour en songe by Raul Ruiz

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love_Torn_in_a_Dream (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love_Torn_in_a_Dream)

The film begins with Raul Ruiz himself talking to the actors of the film and giving congratulations to them for being important actors and thanking them for acting in the movie... and then he explains them what the movie is about:

The movie contains 9 stories, each one of them is based on a letter of Llull's Ars Magna...


A system in which 9 + 1 letters* received some specific correspondences and created a complex system of combinations (which was later investigated by A. Kircher, Leibniz and Giordano Bruno).

*9 + 1 because the A is actually reserved for "God" and Llull doesn't "combine" God/A with the other 9 letters.

Raul Ruiz explains that the film will be based on the third figure, of the Kamea of the combinations:


So each one of the 9 stories (B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, K) interacts with all the other 8 stories following this geometric order.

The film is simply AMAZING and doesn't simply use the system of Llull, but also goes to investigate the system of combinations of Abulafia and even discloses a few Martinist and Rosicrucian ideas which are quite complex.

The film includes amazing dialogues about Hermeticism in the art of painting!!!!!
A marvelous conversation about the Sephiroth and the theory of Emanations (a debate about the 10 Sephiroth of God and the 10 Qlippoth of the 10 Sephiroth, discussing if they are emanations of God or emanations of the Devil).

And a fantastic story about a society of 22 Pirates who have a ring for each one and an amulet (that is a cross) and a second amulet that is a gem... and then a fantastic explanation of the mathematical symbolism of placing the number 4 (the cross) and the Gem inside the cross (1) surrounded by the 22 rings, thus making a 27 (the number that rules the 4th figure of Llull, but also a condensed form of the 207 of AUR, which is the source of the 22 letters).

I wrote a bit on the Ars Magna of Llull, Abulafia and the modifications that Kircher did to the system of Llull in the "Alchemy Forums Anthology (http://forum.alchemyforums.com/showthread.php?4673-Alchemy-Forums-Anthology%2F)"...

The film has a clear post-surrealist tone, but its twisted logic follows the logic of Llull all the time, mixing it with ideas taken from Qabalah... and some winks to the Martinist (A character who presents herself as "L'inconnue"!!!) and the Rosicrucian traditions (The Cross surrounded by the 22 rings and a fantastic mathematical explanation).

Last, but not least: the movie is VERY fun to watch (I don't specially link it to alchemy, but mostly to its brothers... Llull as a mathematician, Abulafia, Qabalah and the debate of predestination vs free will).

I found it that it's possible to watch it on youtube!!!


(If you use the CC button, you will be able to get the subtitles... the bad news is that they are "broken" because most of the time they have no spaces between the words -at least in my computer- "asifthespacesdidn'texist", but with some effort it is possible to watch it... but probably it is also possible to find it elsewhere with better subtitles).