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True Initiate
06-20-2016, 10:29 PM
The philosopher's stone Michio Kushi's guide to alchemy, transmutation, and the new science

Does anybody have a pdf of this book? :cool:

Dendritic Xylem
06-21-2016, 07:29 PM
I hope someone finds this.

It has to have important info in it... considering the price it sells for.

True Initiate
06-21-2016, 08:34 PM
This is what makes me wonder what the hell is in that book? 2000 bucks?! Are you serious?!!!

zoas23
06-21-2016, 08:43 PM
This is what i am wondering too! 2000 bucks?!!!

What the hell is in that book???

Yeah, I didn't know that book at all and I saw that in amazon they sell it used for $2,000

BUT They sell the same book for $10 here: http://www.sundialbooks.net/book/9781882984077

The ones in amazon are from crazy re-sellers (The DVD of a movie I filmed in 2003/4 is often sold in ebay for $500 -by crazy re-sellers... when I saw such thing, I uploaded it to youtube).

The cost of something doesn't make it more worthy (or less worthy)... sometimes the re-sellers are a bit "crazy" or "opportunistic".

True Initiate
06-21-2016, 09:01 PM
Thanks Zoas23 10 bucks is something i could afford!

Andro
06-21-2016, 09:14 PM
They only ship to US & Canada, and availability is not assured.

Also, looks like it's the Macrobiotics guy, so it could possibly be something along the lines of biological transmutation, maybe like the Kevran chickens experiments (potassium to calcium).

Just speculating.

But 10 bucks it not much of a stretch to prove me wrong :)

zoas23
06-21-2016, 09:44 PM
They only ship to US & Canada, and availability is not assured.

Also, looks like it's the Macrobiotics guy, so it could possibly be something along the lines of biological transmutation, maybe like the Kevran chickens experiments (potassium to calcium).

Just speculating.

But 10 bucks it not much of a stretch to prove me wrong :)

If you use google, there's several online shops selling that book... only in amazon it costs $2,000

B&B: http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/philosophers-stone-michio-kushi/1000667610 --------> $60
Elliot company: http://www.elliottbaybook.com/book/9781882984077 ----------------------------> $10
TextBooks: http://www.textbooks.com/Philosophers-Stone-Michio-Kushis-Guide-to-Alchemy-Transmutation-and-the-New-Science-1-Edition/9781882984077/Michio-Kushi.php?CSID=AK2TSDOOU2JDKUQDMQKAMKSAB&AID=11406670&PID=910840&PartnerID=848867&utm_campaign=848867&utm_medium=Affiliate&utm_source=CJ&utm_term=910840&mcid=XAF-11406670-848867-CJ-910840&SID=googjmp_1882984072#mplistings -----> $60

There's other sources too... just don't pay $2,000... anyway, I don't know this book at all.... but with $2000, probably anyone can buy a plane ticket to the house of the re-seller, knock the door, wait till he opens it, say "you are an idiot" and return home by plane with a smile.

True Initiate
06-21-2016, 10:14 PM
They only ship to US & Canada, and availability is not assured.

Also, looks like it's the Macrobiotics guy, so it could possibly be something along the lines of biological transmutation, maybe like the Kevran chickens experiments (potassium to calcium).)

Yes, he was the guy who performed some biological transformations. I wonder is there any additional information in this book or just the repetition of his previous works?

True Initiate
09-22-2016, 04:39 PM
Me and another member of this forum are considering buying this book for 65 dollars but we wish to split the costs as much as possible.

https://www.amazon.com/Philosophers-Stone-Alchemy-Transmutation-Science/dp/1882984072/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1474558317&sr=1-1&keywords=The+Philosopher%27s+Stone%3A+Michio+Kushi %27s+Guide+to+Alchemy%2C+Transmutation%2C+and+the+ New+Science

If enough people are interested maybe we could bring the price down to 5 or 10 bucks for each of us. Everybody who contributes will receive a scan of the book in pdf format.

Andro
09-22-2016, 04:56 PM
I'm in, please let me know (in PM) how much I have to chip in and the PayPal account to send it to.


Me and another member of this forum are considering buying this book for 65 dollars but we wish to split the costs as much as possible.

https://www.amazon.com/Philosophers-Stone-Alchemy-Transmutation-Science/dp/1882984072/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1474558317&sr=1-1&keywords=The+Philosopher%27s+Stone%3A+Michio+Kushi %27s+Guide+to+Alchemy%2C+Transmutation%2C+and+the+ New+Science

If enough people are interested maybe we could bring the price down to 5 or 10 bucks for each of us. Everybody who contributes will receive a scan of the book in pdf format.

zoas23
09-22-2016, 06:18 PM
I'm in too!

We can wait a few days and get it very cheap if we divide. Very nice idea!!!

From $2,000 to something that may end up being $15... impossible to deny that collective efforts are useful!!!

Dwellings
09-22-2016, 06:20 PM
I have this guy special issue on Atomic Transmutations but in it he stops short of revealing the secret to manufacturing gold.

http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=14823651956066721297

True Initiate
09-22-2016, 07:18 PM
In his book he goes further about manufacturing Gold and i can prove it to you. I have managed to dig up 2 scanned pages from this book after several hours of searching for the complete copy of the book and this what i found.

http://s22.postimg.org/vpymb6z8t/phst1.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/vpymb6z8t/)

http://s22.postimg.org/kevymtsdp/phst2.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/kevymtsdp/)

Interesting, huh?

True Initiate
09-22-2016, 07:22 PM
I'm in too!

We can wait a few days and get it very cheap if we divide. Very nice idea!!!

From $2,000 to something that may end up being $15... impossible to deny that collective efforts are useful!!!

I have sent few e-mails to some of my friends so i say let's wait until Monday to see how many of us are interested and how much everybody needs to chip in. I am hoping for 5 to 10 bucks a share.

Dwellings
09-22-2016, 07:42 PM
In his book he goes further about manufacturing Gold and i can prove it to you. I have managed to dig up 2 scanned pages from this book after several hours of searching for the complete copy of the book and this what i found.

http://s22.postimg.org/vpymb6z8t/phst1.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/vpymb6z8t/)

http://s22.postimg.org/kevymtsdp/phst2.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/kevymtsdp/)

Interesting, huh?

First, he doesn't get our Mercury.

Second, he believes in the fraud Atomic models taught in schools. The correct one is a twin opposing vortices spinning at high speed separated by a dielectric plane. Read Tesla in this regard.

Also, the stuff called electron does not exist. In my present position, I consider electricity to be an EM wave that propogates through the surface of a conductor not the flow of electrons as is taught in schools.

So there goes electrons, in a same vein protons and neutrons was created by the particle clowns since the equations weren't balancing out. So there goes that.

I liked the yin and yang stuff but beyond that nothing.

True Initiate
09-22-2016, 09:53 PM
The correct one is a twin opposing vortices spinning at high speed separated by a dielectric plane.

In his writings he also mentions the Walter Russell model which you just described. He makes use of atomic weight only for calculation purposes.
Here is the proof from his writings:

http://s10.postimg.org/takxi3mmt/image.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/takxi3mmt/)

http://s10.postimg.org/7cogob7md/image.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/7cogob7md/)

http://s10.postimg.org/9iiritb2t/image.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/9iiritb2t/)

http://s10.postimg.org/n0pnv3n85/image.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/n0pnv3n85/)

Philosophical
09-22-2016, 11:34 PM
Dwellings:
As someone who has read a lot of the works of Nikola Tesla I can say quite confidently that Tesla doesn't talk of this, as TI mentioned though a man named Walter Russell does. Electromagnetic energy exists in the space surrounding wires, not in the wire itself and the electron from my understanding is that they are likely the termination point of the dielectric field on the conductor. There is something which they label as an electron? Is it what they think it is? Who knows, most likely not but don't throw the baby out with the bath water especially, with all due respect, when one does not possess the stone of the wise to say one way or another.

Count me in TrueInitiate!

Seth-Ra
09-23-2016, 02:39 AM
I would like to contribute if we can get it down enough also. Just PM me when ready. :)



~Seth-Ra

Kiorionis
09-23-2016, 03:31 AM
Me and another member of this forum are considering buying this book for 65 dollars but we wish to split the costs as much as possible.

I've got $10 laying around, just for the sake of buying a book. I love occult books, and $10 is a steal ;)

PM me as well when everything is a-go.

alfr
09-23-2016, 03:49 AM
ok 10 ok also for mr email me when is ready thanks

my best regard

Illen A. Cluf
09-23-2016, 05:31 PM
Along with myself, we now have 8 persons who are interested. In terms of the cost of the book, although it lists at $62.10, there's also a shipping fee which is $17 for the international rate. That brings the price up to $79.10. Unfortunately, though, even though there's an international shipping rate, these books do not ship outside of the US. I have written to Amazon asking if there's a way around this.

If not, the book can be ordered from the Amazon of another country. If so, the cost of the book and shipping amounts to $91.75 US., which is $12 higher than the American price. However, split amongst 8 persons, it doesn't make a whole lot of difference.

If divided evenly, the price for each person would amount to only about $11.50. That's a reasonable price for a book such as this. If others are interested in this book, the price could go down even more.

So far, the following 8 are interested:

Alfr, Kiorkionis, Seth-Ra, Zoas, Andro, Philosophical, True Initiate an myself.

Some have already contributed more than this amount. Shall we refund the contribution and wait until we can come up with equal price contributions for everyone?

Please let either True Initiative or myself know.

Dendritic Xylem
09-23-2016, 05:40 PM
I will also contribute.

thoth
09-23-2016, 08:24 PM
Me too ....

zoas23
09-23-2016, 11:13 PM
Along with myself, we now have 8 persons who are interested. In terms of the cost of the book, although it lists at $62.10, there's also a shipping fee which is $17 for the international rate. That brings the price up to $79.10. Unfortunately, though, even though there's an international shipping rate, these books do not ship outside of the US. I have written to Amazon asking if there's a way around this.

If not, the book can be ordered from the Amazon of another country. If so, the cost of the book and shipping amounts to $91.75 US., which is $12 higher than the American price. However, split amongst 8 persons, it doesn't make a whole lot of difference.

If divided evenly, the price for each person would amount to only about $11.50. That's a reasonable price for a book such as this. If others are interested in this book, the price could go down even more.

So far, the following 8 are interested:

Alfr, Kiorkionis, Seth-Ra, Zoas, Andro, Philosophical, True Initiate an myself.

Some have already contributed more than this amount. Shall we refund the contribution and wait until we can come up with equal price contributions for everyone?

Please let either True Initiative or myself know.

Yeah, make it equal for everyone... that's the point.
Somebody will "unfairly" receive the ORIGINAL... but the "unfairness" goes away when this person "pays" the cost of receiving the original by "paying" for it by having to scan each page (which we can take as "the work" that pays the cost of receiving the original)... So it becomes fair for everyone again. Nice group project!

Philosophical
09-23-2016, 11:31 PM
Hello Illen, thank you for acting as banker on this project. If you would like to you can refund any difference back to my account but I am also happy for everyone involved in the projects logistics to be paid even just a small sum for their time. Either way I am happy as the amount paid for the book is still less than what it would cost otherwise and I'll likely print the book and bind a hard copy for myself. I will be away for a fortnight and probably won't be able to access the Internet so I will leave it up to the others to say definitively what will be done. Look forward to reading the book in more depth. Thanks everyone! It would be so interesting to do this sort of thing more often!

Illen A. Cluf
09-24-2016, 12:13 AM
Yeah, make it equal for everyone... that's the point.
Somebody will "unfairly" receive the ORIGINAL... but the "unfairness" goes away when this person "pays" the cost of receiving the original by "paying" for it by having to scan each page (which we can take as "the work" that pays the cost of receiving the original)... So it becomes fair for everyone again. Nice group project!

The person receiving the original will also pay an equal part of the share PLUS having to scan the entire book on top of that. The shares will be about $10 each, and the amount of work to scan each page will likely be more than $10 of labour (thus the person with the original takes care of ordering the book, scanning it and effectively paying double what everyone else pays - plus the risk of paying 3 or 4 times if some people end up not paying in the end). Having the original is not such an advantage - just extra paper. It's the content that's valuable.

Illen A. Cluf
09-26-2016, 03:48 PM
It's great that we now have ten people who have expressed interest in sharing for the cost of this book. The total price of the least expensive source for this out of print book including shipping and handling is $92.00 US. Some sources list the price up to $1,000.

Split 10 ways, and rounded up to the nearest half dollar, the price for each contributor will be only $9.50 U.S. It's so encouraging that we can all work together like this, and reduce the price of an important out-of-print book to something quite manageable for all.

I'll wait until the end of today in case any others want the book as well. Then I'll send out a Private message to each contributor, specifying the Paypal account to which to send the funds.

Following that, I'll wait until the book arrives and produce a PDF for each contributor.

Kiorionis
09-26-2016, 06:24 PM
It's the content that's valuable.

Quite right. I don't mind having a PDF copy.



I'll wait until the end of today in case any others want the book as well. Then I'll send out a Private message to each contributor, specifying the Paypal account to which to send the funds.

Following that, I'll wait until the book arrives and produce a PDF for each contributor.

Awesome!

Illen A. Cluf
09-28-2016, 02:01 PM
Thanks, for your contributions towards the purchase of "Philosophers Stone" by Michio Kushi. This is a great group project.

I've now received contributions from everyone who agreed to contribute except for one person. Once I have received that contribution, I can proceed.

Illen A. Cluf
09-28-2016, 10:19 PM
As an update, everyone who was interested has now contributed (thanks, all) and the book has been ordered. I've been told that it could take anywhere from about 2-5 weeks before I receive it.

I'l provide an update once I have received the book and started scanning it.

True Initiate
10-14-2016, 05:09 PM
Mission accomplished!

All the backers check yours PM's later tonight!

Andro
10-14-2016, 05:38 PM
Thank you to those who made it happen!

Illen A. Cluf
10-14-2016, 05:48 PM
Thank you to those who made it happen!

Thank you, but all of us - together - made it happen.

zoas23
10-14-2016, 10:53 PM
This is what makes me wonder what the hell is in that book? 2000 bucks?! Are you serious?!!!

I love seeing how this began... !!!! Thus I bring this post.

team work.... !!!! we saved 1990 dollars... not bad, right? :D

Blessed be this place / forum!

Kiorionis
10-14-2016, 11:13 PM
Yes, thanks to everyone! Can't wait to start reading it.

Awani
10-14-2016, 11:46 PM
Yes, well done and good project. Enjoy your read.

:cool:

alfr
10-15-2016, 02:12 AM
Yes, thanks to everyone! very good project.

Voltaire
12-04-2016, 05:41 PM
I spoke to the Amazon seller.
They say that they are out of stock, and for some reason it is more convenient for them to up the price to $2000 so no body buys it.

Andro
12-04-2016, 05:50 PM
I spoke to the Amazon seller.
They say that they are out of stock, and for some reason it is more convenient for them to up the price to $2000 so no body buys it.

A small group of us has already collectively funded the purchase of this text at a lower price, and everyone who participated has already received it. (read the whole thread)

IF you're interested, perhaps one of the people who initiated this joint project and made it happen (not me) might facilitate a copy for you, at a fraction of the price.

Harris Caplan
02-21-2017, 05:37 PM
Hi all, I am so sad I am late to this party. I am very very interested in this book and was wondering if any of the users that participated would be interested in trading for another alchemy book. I have several books that I have scanned at the library, I am sure we could work something out. Just let me know your alchemy book wish list and I will do everything I can to fulfill it.

Kiorionis
02-21-2017, 07:43 PM
Harris Caplan, your request has been answered here (http://forum.alchemyforums.com/showthread.php?5149-The-Summa-Perfectionis-of-Pseudo-Geber-by-William-R.-Newman&p=47906#post47906)

Schmuldvich
02-21-2017, 08:22 PM
A small group of us has already collectively funded the purchase of this text at a lower price, and everyone who participated has already received it. (read the whole thread). IF you're interested, perhaps one of the people who initiated this joint project and made it happen (not me) might facilitate a copy for you, at a fraction of the price.

What are the notable points of the book, in your opinion, Andro?

Andro
02-21-2017, 08:54 PM
What are the notable points of the book, in your opinion, Andro?

http://liberatelife.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/Michio-Kushi-TOC.jpg


http://liberatelife.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/Michio-Kushi-Index.jpg

Awani
02-21-2017, 09:07 PM
Not sure why everyone could only find expensive versions of this book. There is a paperback on Amazon for 35 bucks.

:cool:

Harris Caplan
02-21-2017, 09:30 PM
Thank you so much for posting table of contents and index.
To anyone else that read it, was there any interesting philosophy in the text or was it all nuclear energy/chemistry based, like physically transmuting elements?