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Amon
07-14-2016, 11:39 PM
So,i want to practice calcination out of sheer quriosity(i am not yet taking on practical alchemy/spagyrics,thats why i say quriosity) and mess around a bit with the calcined salts to observe and test their behaviors,and my problem is,i dont know what material to use as the heating surface.

At the moment,i was planning on using a spoon over a mobile gas burner (under a fume hood) but i don't know wether the metal that the spoon is made of will resist the high tempratures of a naked flame,plus it is stated (on wikipedia) that some silverware may be alloys of silver/copper and copper can react with oxygen in higher tempratures so i just want to be sure that the spoon won't cause any trouble during this process.

Do you have any other materials to suggest that could be better suited for that process? Keep in mind the gas burner shoots fire vertically so i can't use stones or anything of that nature and turn the gas burner sideways(yet).

Axismundi000
07-15-2016, 12:00 PM
For the plant matter I put it in a crucible and use a outdoors gas hob just leave it until the ash is grey then leach this with distilled water. The liquid that I have distilled alcohol off from I reduce to a gum and then calcinate very gently adding back distillate residue (Lysol) from repeatedly re-distilling the alcohol, I use the Lysol with distilled water when leaching salts. I let these stay black and re-calcinate the leached salts doing this several times until finally the salts are white but sticky. So I just burn the plant matter until it is grey ash but with a lid partially covering to prevent it bursting into flames, just charring and smoking. The gum residue that has had alcohol distilled off it is very lightly calcinated repeatedly the black residue leached with Lysol and distilled water; slowly changing to brown then grey then white finally after as many as 7 calcinate and leach cycles.

Frater Albertus wrote that the salt (from plant matter) should be white. The sulphur (from reduced gum residue) should be white also but stick to the underside of a wooden spoon.

Spagyrics is fun I encourage you to give it a go.

zoas23
07-15-2016, 12:55 PM
A big porcelain capsule... they are very cheap and very easy to find in probably any shop that sells lab supplies.

This is how it looks:
http://www.chemicalnow.com/media/catalog/category/CAPSULE_IN_PORCELLANA-.png

A stainless steel pot will do the trick too.

Last, but not least, you can also use a simple garden pot.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41Bj5yACOGL.jpg

Finally... I suggest using a gas torch burner during the first phase of the calcination... using it DIRECTLY on the plant (from "above") until the plant becomes ashes and the "wind" that the torch creates becomes a problem because it makes them fly everywhere.

http://g02.a.alicdn.com/kf/HTB14081IXXXXXaUXXXXq6xXFXXX0/Flame-gun-Gas-Torch-Flamethrower-Butane-Burner-Auto-Ignition-Camping-Welding-BBQ-Outdoor-AY105-SZ.jpg

(The results with and without a gas torch burner are identical... except that for some reason the amount of smoke is incredibly reduced... but with a torch burner you can even do a calcination indoors without making your house smell like hell)... but that's only if you want to reduce the amount of smoke.

Andro
07-17-2016, 04:24 PM
Or, you could research a more natural method of 'calcination' (http://forum.alchemyforums.com/showthread.php?4624-How-to-begin....&p=41574#post41574)...

Although I'm not sure if this is what you're looking to experiment with...