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Aham
01-13-2017, 05:42 PM
Hey guys, over the last few weeks I've downloaded quite a few PDFs and being old school I think it would be wise to turn some of the PDFs into actual books so I can write/annotate on the pages. Before I start down this process, I'm interested to hear what you guys do and the pros/cons.

Thanks in advance.

Andro
01-13-2017, 05:50 PM
Hey guys, over the last few weeks I've downloaded quite a few PDFs and being old school I think it would be wise to turn some of the PDFs into actual books so I can write/annotate on the pages. Before I start down this process, I'm interested to hear what you guys do and the pros/cons.

Almost no cons. You will have hard copies for yourself to annotate and conveniently take wherever you go without needing a digital 'reading device', and you will also have the PDFs - if you want to digitally send them to other people.

Just print them out!

Only con: Cost of printer ink :)

Schmuldvich
01-13-2017, 05:53 PM
Check this thread out: http://forum.alchemyforums.com/showthread.php?3926-Book-Binding&p=44485#post44485

I use my own printer and/or FedEx Kinkos.

Aham
01-13-2017, 06:59 PM
Andro, that's where I was heading as well but just wanted to get more opinions on cons. You're right. It's just toner and paper. Here in the US, Staples sometimes will sell 10 reams of paper (500 sheets per ream) for $15 and I think I have 30-40 reams somewhere in the basement :)

Schmuldvich, your solution is ingenious and definitely something I will do as well. Thanks for the link to the other posts. I did a search on the forums before posting but I guess my search did not have the right parameters...

Illen A. Cluf
01-13-2017, 08:22 PM
I just print them out, punch holes in the pages, and bind them with an ACCO Report Binding:

http://www.theofficedealer.com/ACC25078-Acco-25078-Presstex-Side-Binding-Report-Cover.html

Simple, quick, inexpensive and effective.

They will expand anywhere up to about three inches in thickness.

Aham
01-13-2017, 11:00 PM
Come on now... report binders??? That's too easy. Who wants that? :rolleyes:

Schmuldvich's idea was good, this is definitely better from my perspective. Unless someone else responds with an even better option I think this one is a keeper :)

Thanks IAC


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Illen A. Cluf
01-14-2017, 12:03 AM
Come on now... report binders??? That's too easy. Who wants that? :rolleyes:

Schmuldvich's idea was good, this is definitely better from my perspective. Unless someone else responds with an even better option I think this one is a keeper :)

Thanks IAC


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Whatever's your fancy. Guaranteed, the string approach will result in pages ripping out and being very awkward to read.

zoas23
01-14-2017, 04:54 AM
Lulu.com is a very good option. It is cheap, what you get is a "book" and it's not expensive (you can choose soft-cover, hard-cover, color, black and white, different sizes, etc).

The problem with the printers is that the ink is not water resistant... and unless you are a good book binder, then you won't get a "book".

Of course, if you do it with your 1,000 pdfs, then it will cost a fortune, but if you pick your favorite books, it's cheap and reasonably good.

Schmuldvich
01-14-2017, 05:02 AM
Guaranteed, the string approach will result in pages ripping out and being very awkward to read.

Not at all actually! You'd be surprised! I have used yarn and twine, and I prefer twine. No issues whatsoever. I make sure to make my loops big enough to turn the pages though.





http://i.imgur.com/MFJkScx.jpg

Aham
01-29-2017, 04:26 PM
IAC, thanks for the recommendation on the report binders. The retailer link you provided ended up being the cheapest online that I could find and with free shipping, it was worth it.

Here's my 1st book: http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e39/helloworld18/IMG_6609_zpsbwellk34.jpg?t=1485620452

Thanks again

Schmuldvich
01-29-2017, 06:51 PM
Let's see some more pictures of your book, Aham!

How much was it when it was all said and done?

Illen A. Cluf
01-29-2017, 07:47 PM
IAC, thanks for the recommendation on the report binders. The retailer link you provided ended up being the cheapest online that I could find and with free shipping, it was worth it.

Here's my 1st book: http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e39/helloworld18/IMG_6609_zpsbwellk34.jpg?t=1485620452

Thanks again

Wow, that turned out great with the cover picture! Glad you found these useful. I have dozens of alchemical books with those exact covers (although some are blue and others black). They are great because they fit almost any size of book, and you can easily add pages or notes later.

The only thing I wish I could add is the title on the spine, although if the book is thick enough, I can write the title on the edge with a permanent marker. You could also glue a strip of paper with the title printed on it, although it might be a little difficult to add pages later.

Aham
01-29-2017, 10:05 PM
Hi Schmuldvich, the cost for each report binder ended up being $2.32. I had purchased 40 reams of (96 bright, 20 lb) paper for about $60 at Staples so that's like $0.00075/page and I believe the black toner is about $18.50 and lasts about 4,000 pages. For this book, I forgot to print double-sided which I will do for the next book so the paper cost should be half :D

Here are some more pictures:

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e39/helloworld18/IMG_6621_zpso14cxgaa.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e39/helloworld18/IMG_6617_zpsd0g0vbyb.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e39/helloworld18/IMG_6618_zpsbnab72jg.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e39/helloworld18/IMG_6619_zpsnzyk5a0a.jpg

The other thing I plan to do when I print my next book is to offset the left margin by another 1/2" so that it's a bit easier to read even if it's a thicker book. This book is about 1" thick

Hope this helps.

Aham
01-29-2017, 10:43 PM
IAC, all thanks to you :)

I was thinking about the same issue, how do I write on the spine of these books and have the flexibility to add or remove pages and then I came up with this idea of using old file folders. I cut a piece of an old file folder (any piece of scrap paper should also work) to create a spine on back. Should work for thin or thick books.

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e39/helloworld18/IMG_6622_zps9uth7lus.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e39/helloworld18/IMG_6623_zpsx9tpdavq.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e39/helloworld18/IMG_6624_zpsr7wiudq8.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e39/helloworld18/IMG_6626_zpslf85qf65.jpg

I cut the spine length a bit shorter than I wanted to but not bad for the 1st trial run. Allows me to add notes/etc to the book without worrying about glue and should work for thinner books as well.

The other thing that I like is that now all the books I print will be of the same size and will look exactly the same on the shelves. :D


BTW, as you can see, I removed the center punch since these pages only need two holes.

Hope this can generate some other ideas as well. :cool:

Illen A. Cluf
01-29-2017, 11:47 PM
IAC, all thanks to you :)

I was thinking about the same issue, how do I write on the spine of these books and have the flexibility to add or remove pages and then I came up with this idea of using old file folders. I cut a piece of an old file folder (any piece of scrap paper should also work) to create a spine on back. Should work for thin or thick books.

I cut the spine length a bit shorter than I wanted to but not bad for the 1st trial run. Allows me to add notes/etc to the book without worrying about glue and should work for thinner books as well.

The other thing that I like is that now all the books I print will be of the same size and will look exactly the same on the shelves. :D


BTW, as you can see, I removed the center punch since these pages only need two holes. Hope this can generate some other ideas as well. :cool:

Great idea about the spine notes! Yes, you don't need the centre hole, but since my paper punch already includes it, it doesn't make much difference. But yes, one could take out the centre punch.

Aham
01-30-2017, 12:15 AM
I was thinking if someone wanted to, the other side of the flap could also be punched to form a full cover. Really depends on preference.

Salazius
01-31-2017, 11:37 AM
The cons of printing ?

=> Space ! It takes a lot of it if you print a lot.