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Awani
08-14-2017, 10:34 AM
Thread that highlight in time the need for civil debates.

We need a new moderator because I honestly feel in the deep parts of my soul that "real alchemy" is complete bullshit. And that the notion to make a Stone that can provide health AND gold sounds like the Stone of the Devil.

I am not interested in wasting time and money on such meanlingless projects, since I have too many projects going on that are far more interesting and bigger, none that I have shared openly because they are all to important for a public forum.

Since JDP has shown his strong position on what alchemy is, and since he is so skilled in what is right and wrong I hereby nominate him for the position of moderator (to replace me). No, it is not a joke (even if everything is).

:p

JDP
08-14-2017, 10:36 AM
LOL!

Schmuldvich
08-14-2017, 12:16 PM
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I think that Awani, Andro, and Kiorionis make a great trio! A cord of 3 strands is not easily broken!

You (Awani) have the off-the-cuff emotional firey side, Andro holds it down with his practical knowledge of Alchemical procedures and stoic poise, and Kiorionis brings his love, understanding, and heartfelt tranquility.

Y'all three make a great team. A new moderator is not needed, imo, although JDP would make a fantastic Mod should you decide to step down.




AGAPDOTAJDP
(Almighty Gatekeeper And Prince Defender Of The Art) JDP!


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Awani
08-14-2017, 12:23 PM
LOL. Yes maybe I appear emotional. I got to try and write so it does not appear like that, because I do not feel emotional when writing posts... but I always try to make them funny (for me). My sense of fun is perhaps a bit fiery.

:p

Kiorionis
08-14-2017, 12:40 PM
LOL!

You don't like the nomination?

:)

Schmuldvich
08-14-2017, 12:56 PM
LOL. Yes maybe I appear emotional. I got to try and write so it does not appear like that, because I do not feel emotional when writing posts... but I always try to make them funny (for me). My sense of fun is perhaps a bit fiery.

We need a new moderator because I honestly feel in the deep parts of my soul that "real alchemy" is complete bullshit.

Why do you feel a new moderator is needed?

This is your site and you should run it how it continues to please you. Even if you do not believe that Alchemy is real, that is only a small part of this website. There are plenty of great discussions that have transpired on other parts of this message board, and plenty more fruitful discussions will blossom in the future. One needn't step down from his own site just be he doesn't "believe" anymore!

You are well aware of the spiritual world and have a firm grasp on this side of life that most people on this planet are completely unaware of and oblivious to. Your impulsive, unrestrained, passionate, and jovial responses are delivered in your style perfectly well and are always refreshing to read. Your personally comes through in your posts. You are politically aware [I](oh how I hate that word!), up to date with current events, and you are not from America. If I had to guess, you are in your mid 30's and from Europe. You are also gay, right? Andro takes his time with all of his response, and (praise you Mighty Andro!) formats his posts beautifully every. single. time. On top of this, he always puts thought into his responses and never posts hastily. I like to think Andro is in his late 30's or early 40's and from America but quite cultured. He is also bisexual, right? Kiorionis is probably a great guy to be around in real life! Kiorionis probably has a very gentle spirit in all aspects of life, is quite knowledgeable in many areas most are not, and seems to be very understanding of everyone else's viewpoint during a discussion. I speculate Kiorionis is in his late 20's or early 30's and from America. He is also straight, right? The dynamic amongst you three current moderators is immensely good and the bond seems to be strong! I am not sure what goes on behind the scenes of this website or what discussions take place in the Moderator's Lounge...if any.

The balance is already perfect!



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Awani
08-14-2017, 01:24 PM
Ok fine. I just thought it might be good to have someone that are not in agreement with the current three mods. Meaning all the current mods are in a sense "inner" interested in some way or another.

As far as your speculations you are a bit off. I won't reveal the other two (their choice), but I have met both in the physical realm, but I have a wife and child... and even if I am living straight I live by the creed that we are all bisexual. To refuse to include anyone in love would be fascism. LOL.

I am physically older as well. But not much more than you suspect.

The moderator lounge is reserved for New New World Order plans.

Not really my site, it is a community. I am just a guardian of sorts.

:p

black
08-14-2017, 01:42 PM
I'm more than happy with the moderators that we have now.

Kiorionis
08-14-2017, 02:07 PM
Schmuldvich you're too kind with the compliments.



The moderator lounge is reserved for New New World Order plans.

Which I thought we weren't supposed to bring up on the public forum... ;)

Awani
08-14-2017, 02:31 PM
It is what is called a double-bluff.

:p

True Initiate
08-14-2017, 02:34 PM
http://i.imgur.com/ZpfwfFS.jpg

To be a gate keeper and defender of the art you need first to posses the art but ok i voted yes.

Schmuldvich
08-14-2017, 02:46 PM
AGAPDOTAJDP
(Almighty Gatekeeper And Prince Defender Of The Art) JDP!


http://i.imgur.com/ZpfwfFS.jpg

To be a gate keeper and defender of the art you need first to posses the art but ok i voted yes.

I've asked everyone openly on this forum before, and I will ask this openly again to anyone willing to answer...



Do you know ANYONE who has accomplished anything worthwhile with Alchemy?

Andro
08-14-2017, 03:00 PM
I'm not sure if accomplishing anything "worthwhile" in Alchemy is so significantly relevant to whether one can be a good forum moderator or not :)

The criteria for threads like this one should (IMO) not strictly/mainly be about one's alchemical knowledge, but mostly about one's ability to act (as much as possible) as a good housekeeper...

zoas23
08-14-2017, 03:43 PM
O.K... I voted "no" (sorry, JDP... though I don't know if being a moderator is important for you, probably not).

I have zero doubts about the fact that JDP has a good knowledge of alchemy (and a very personal perspective, I often do not agree with it)... but he also has a tendency to get into endless arguments (I can't deny the fact that he is VERY passionate and that's good, but sometimes not the best personality for a moderator).

So I have nothing against JDP, but I would choose someone who is a bit more balanced... people like Zo K, Pierre, Salazius, True Initiate come to my mind.
It's not based on the "alchemical knowledge" or "alchemical achievements" of each one... It's simply because they have less "explosive" personalities.

I don't dislike JDP at all, just thinking about who would be good as a moderator.

Salazius
08-14-2017, 05:44 PM
I've asked everyone openly on this forum before, and I will ask this openly again to anyone willing to answer...


Do you know ANYONE who has accomplished anything worthwhile with Alchemy?

I've posted two photos today in the transmutation thread. Do you consider my two types of transmutations as worthwile ? I know photos prove nothing. I know that.

And by the way, if ever someone who did something truly worthwile (as a rejuvenation for example), would they claim it openly here ? I doubt it.

True Initiate
08-14-2017, 06:05 PM
A lot...

JDP
08-14-2017, 07:32 PM
You don't like the nomination?

:)

I don't mind it, but it is funny how and why it was proposed.

solomon levi
08-14-2017, 07:59 PM
wow. this place has changed. and JDP is the least moderate of all members. You can't give what you don't have, and he has no capacity for moderation.
but you might as well make him one. he's already the bouncer at the door that harasses everyone with an idea that isn't like his. just give him the whole site.
i'll stick to facebook.

Awani
08-14-2017, 08:57 PM
]Do you know ANYONE who has accomplished anything worthwhile with Alchemy?

YES, but classified by your definition of alchemy (and of JDPs) then NO... nor am I interested in accomplishing such things either. I have only one agenda, and it is reserved only for me. And it is the only thing I post about (if it seems like it or not), and the only reason I post is because it is a way to distill some thoughts I have. Just a tool... I could use a diary, but for some reason writing things in public makes me question/evaluate myself more. A diary is too much of a closed loop.

:p

Awani
08-14-2017, 10:25 PM
Ok enough horsing around. JDP is not going to be a moderator.* You think I am a moron. Here are some examples of quotes by JDP from just ONE single post... and there are hundreds more like it:


The fact that you think that this has anything to do with alchemy already says much about how little you understand the subject. And even your "understanding" of plain ordinary chemistry is amusing, to say the least.

Well, pardon me for wanting to help misguided seekers like you get out of your erroneous theories/speculations. By all means go back to wasting your time and money with things that are not alchemical even by a huge stretch of the imagination.

Yes, naughty uncle JDP is such a bummer, he rains on my parade of erroneous speculations. I wish I could just block him so that I can continue to fool myself and others into thinking that I can somehow make the Stone...

Maybe because, much like you, the majority of seekers after the Stone have rather little empirical experience, also rather limited acquaintance with actual alchemical texts, and therefore often fall into outlandish or erroneous schemes.

So whenever I consider it opportune, I like to point out problems with many seekers' theories regarding the subject, hoping that they will see the error of their conclusions and move on to other more probable ideas. But hey, if you enjoy sending people into blind alleys, be my guest.

"No, instead listen to my erroneous and unrealistic theories about soluble silicates being the matter of the Stone! Let my unrealistic hopes & dreams control you, and don't listen to anyone who points out the fallacies in my claims. Naughty-naughty, uncle JDP!!!"

And I thought this could have turned out to be a "serious" discussion regarding actual alchemy.

Says the guy who has been "pissing" around these forums since 2009!

JDP might be right, but the manner in which he is right is the mannerisms of an asshole, and that is not the vibe we want in Alchemy Forums. If anyone does not agree with this, simply re-read the above quotes and tell me it does not sound like some stuck up cunt? Not saying JDP is that, just that that is what it sounds like.

I have nothing against JDP or his "knowledge". In the future, please provide such knowledge in a gentler and more inclusive and constructive way.

We want a friendly, fun and relaxed time here. It's not a pissing contest.

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This thread was a clever (and novel) way to issue a warning that will only be given once (try me).

And it is not only directed at JDP. I direct it at EVERYONE (including myself), but JDP has a high score in this area no doubt.

From now on the language has to be different. People can believe what they want and if ANYONE disagree it goes like this:

"...the way I see it is that..."

"...I do not agree because in this book it states XXX, what do you think about that..."

NOT:

"...clearly you do not know anything..."

"...because I say so..."

"...everyone who thinks like you are a fool, and if you listen to me you will be less of a fool..."

It doesn't matter who gets BANNED to me. I gain neither fame nor fortune from this place, and I'll probably be posting here even if I was completely alone. So don't think I will hesitate.

I acted alone in this "operation", no other moderator was 'in the know'.

End of message.

:p

* JDP lost 6 to 5, even if the poll would become a reality (I also know who voted "yes" and "no"... that's right... welcome to North Korea muthafuckers)... muhahahaha...