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elixirmixer
08-15-2017, 12:38 PM
Perhaps, now that about 60% of all the species on the earth are now extinct, and about the same of all forests cut down and never replaced, now might be a good time to start to do something about it.

Ghandi, was a pretty cool dude. I think most ignorant westerners would probably think of some spiritual leader, and I suppose by the end he was. Ghanaian actually studied Law in London, an was more of a civil rights activist than anything else. His message was one of tolerance, and peace.

I want people to know that in their own way, they can make a big difference in the world and they don't have to go around taking out super-rich people in order to do it (even though it couldn't hurt).

Grow your own food and try your best to provide your family with fresh DISTILLED rainwater. They say all this shit about it stripping your body of minerals, they are fucking bullshitting you, your body knows what it's doing, not to mention that their is Ssoooo much shit in your body from all the poisons they feed us, that I would doubt water would make it to your bones, before being heavily contaminated with shit that it's tryin to clean out. Produce your own food and water, get efficient at it.

Stop throwing your cash at them!. Never purchase good and drink from a service station (gas station) EVER!!!! If your poor, don't pay full price for food EVER! There are no additional germs or poisons in good that has been reduced because it's the end of the week (or whatever reason it's reduced) I'm not saying not to buy the foods you like, but just go shopping frequently and watch till the price has dropped (and I'm talking minimum of 33%, preferably 50%)

Don't have kids anymore what for? If you try to save them from the system then the system will just send child services at you and steal your kids anyway, the NWO should be treated as smarter and more power than you are, dot underestimate them and don't make yourself unnecessarily vulnerable by breeding, it's the number one way they keep you locked down with stress, fear, and financial hardships. This is my a nice place to be raising kids anyway.

If you've already had kids: educate them. Teach your kids that there are enemies in our midst's and that they are in camouflaged as "wise businessmen".

Don't visit the doctors unless you are dying. "Free health care" is one of te most deceptive and hard hitting of all of their BS, every time an old lady goes into the doctor for the sniffles, tax payers are losing serious coin to people who are so overpaid, and become so self indulgent, that a large percentage of the time, their sexual apatite grows more and more and just like any drug, they are always looking for a "bigger hit".. You can see where I'm going with this.

Get into positions of authority yourself. If your a righteous soul, we need you leading us to victory, go undercover, become a cop, a lawyer, a doctor, whatever it is that will empower you, to protect those you love, and to get in ear shot of the worst crimes. And if you do get wind of something horrible, don't be a bitch, walk in, take a photo, smack them in the teeth and walk down to the cop shop and get them done for it.

Do what I'm doing here. this war is all about awareness, you think that all those millions of old ladies with the sniffles would have caved all our tax money into the wealthy if they "knew what they were doing?" They have no idea how badly they've fucked over their own grand kids, if they did, a lot less doctor visits would be for mundane procedures. (Flu shots, vag exams, ect)

And seriously, what are we even paying these people for anyway? They are not effective healers, obviously (I do acknowledge that there are some gifted and kind hearted doctors and surgeons out there and for you I am eternally grateful for the fine work you do)

If you have kids, start burying silver bars for them. Dot be a selfish fuckwit and waste your cash on beer and hookers and expect your kids to take care of themselves when they are older; THEY WILL NOT GET TE SAME OPPORTUNITIES THAT YOU HAVE!
Whatever country and situation YOUR in, your CHILDREN will be worse off, believe me...

I could go on all night, this is some food for thought.

The main aim of this game, is to remove yourself utterly from playing it. And if you can bring others with you, all the better.

My wife and I are discussing forsaking our house and moving out in the bush, alas, probably won't happen, considering that the consequences for trying to live in touch with nature will probably be having my children stolen and raped.

I'm actually really really worried that there are so few people concerned about this that not much change will ever take place until it basically collapses, which is also a lie, it will never actually collapse, only when the environment ceases to be liveable, will it stop. The idea of collapse is an idea they have planted themselves, to keep you "stocking up on gold, keeping the food supplies up" ect... However, when they want you to work, they pay you, simple as that. It will never stop, it's IMO actually physically impossible now, it would be like taking an alchemy experiment, fermenting it 36 days, and then trying to un-ferment it. It just doesn't work in reverse.

So, get ready for HELL, cause that nasty bitch is on her way!

Pay-it forward??

elixirmixer
08-16-2017, 02:59 AM
I'm just wondering, is there ANYBODY in this forum, who's main purpose in learning alchemy was to heal people of disease and make a difference in the lives of complete strangers?

EDIT: Anyone AT ALL....??

Kibric
08-16-2017, 04:19 AM
Yes
but experience will teach you
its best not to say anything at all

JDP
08-16-2017, 04:46 AM
I'm just wondering, is there ANYBODY in this forum, who's main purpose in learning alchemy was to heal people of disease and make a difference in the lives of complete strangers?

EDIT: Anyone AT ALL....??

It is a noble pursuit, but it's also much more potentially dangerous than attempting to make silver and gold. Think about the consequences of accidentally killing or negatively affecting someone's health if you happen to administer something that you incorrectly thought was the Stone. When you fail in transmutation attempts you don't hurt anyone, except your pocket and your time. Unless you sue yourself (which is not likely to happen, unless you are insane or a sadomasochist), the consequences will not go further than that. When you experiment on other people's bodies you are taking a big chance of playing with their very lives. The consequences of failure are not the same.

elixirmixer
08-16-2017, 05:17 AM
Yes
but experience will teach you
its best not to say anything at all

I'd prefer if experience would refrain from teaching me such a cunt of a lesson, in this instance. However, it appears I am truly alone in my Noble cause and therefore, i need say no more. I think its likely that I will not really effect much change, but if i can cure a few children of cancer, that will do me.

In the end, IT DOESN'T EVEN MATTER lol

no no, in the end, world collapse will occur, people will suffer in the billions and there isnt shit I can do about it so I might as well admit defeat, I hoped that one day I would find some already established group of revolutionist, sadly, no one seems to have bothered, and we are so deep into the end game now that any revolutions that did occur would most likely just be more 'conflict agendas' create by the governments itself, to kill more of us, and blame it on us, and bring in martial law, so they can take away our civil liberties and constitutional rights.

Fine Schmuldvish, you are your new world order goons can have this planet, i'm done with it anyway.

Schmuldvich
08-16-2017, 05:56 AM
It appears I am truly alone in my Noble cause and therefore, i need say no more.

Fine Schmuldvish, you are your new world order goons can have this planet, i'm done with it anyway.

Friend, on a very superficial level you appear to have a slight grasp of "the powers that be", but you do not at all understand (or cannot comprehend?) the POWER of "the powers that be".

You have me pegged completely wrong. My intent/purpose is clearly veiled through your eyes.

Have you watched "Eyes Wide Shut" or ever read the screenplay? Do you understand the symbolism?

"Eyes Wide Shut" was written by Stanley Kubrick. Do you truly know who Stanley Kubrick is?

Have you ever seen the "Bon Appétit" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPI-mRFEIH0) music video by Katy Perry? Are you aware of what this is actually about?

This is all just the tip of the iceburg (ya know, like the one that sunk the Titanic)...

Wouldn't it be great if suppressed technology by the likes of John Worrell Keely was made freely available to all!


I am planting seeds in hopes that you research further. Again, I am no Teacher (surprise!), just helping (in my own way).

elixirmixer
08-16-2017, 06:04 AM
I actually have quite a deep understanding of the power of the powers that be, however, I find it very distasteful and have forbidden myself from any further research as all it does is create fear and depression in my mind.

I've also asked myself if i'm just jealous of these people, because i don't have the power and the money and to be quite honest, i'm not sure, i think partly I am, because if someone from the NWO came to my house right now and said, join us and we'll sort out your family, I would probably cave like a bitch, because I'm so sick of my family not having access to Justice.

I understand the reference eyes wide shut, to mean, ignorant. I don't think I need to see the screenplay to comprehend that. (correct me if i'm wrong)

I do not question your intentions at all Schmuldvich, to me it appears that you have the same (or similar) reasons to be here as me, to share, to learn, and as a form of self analysis and entertainment.

Their power: I know only too well, and will not be discussing it. Aleister Crowley makes it quite clear the source of their power. (not to mention all the technology aswell) ADDITIONAL NOTE: come to think of it, their power has manifested in a lot of ways in this day and age, however it is still the power of WORDS that has the most effect in the hologram((IMO))

If you are in the NWO, send me an invite you prick, I'll bend the knee. :p

Kibric
08-16-2017, 06:41 AM
I'd prefer if experience would refrain from teaching me such a cunt of a lesson
Best not to say anything doesn't mean doing nothing
it means saying nothing


it appears I am truly alone in my Noble cause
Right...
and you know everyone else who has taken up this cause ?

elixirmixer
08-16-2017, 06:47 AM
Right...
and you know everyone else who has taken up this cause ?

No, In the approx 250,000 people I have met I have never seen a desire to commit themselves to healing other people in a serious and un-selfish way.

(although I have met a few of people who do a poor job at pretending thats how they feel)

Hell, if I can't find them here on Hermetic-peopleforums.com, then I doubt they exist. I must be special ;)

Kibric
08-16-2017, 07:00 AM
I certainly haven't met that many people
but a large quantity of people I have met are committed to healing others

before judging others and their convictions to help others
you should ask yourself
how many homeless people have you personally fed ?
how many troubled kids have you helped find a loving home ?
how many victims of abuse have you helped start a new life ?

it is easy to be cynical

elixirmixer
08-16-2017, 07:07 AM
how many homeless people have you personally fed ?

A few



how many troubled kids have you helped find a loving home ?

A few



how many victims of abuse have you helped start a new life ?

A few.

As i said, many are called, few are legit.

And now I seek the Stone, because a few just isn't good enough.

alfr
08-16-2017, 08:04 AM
I'm just wondering, is there ANYBODY in this forum, who's main purpose in learning alchemy was to heal people of disease and make a difference in the lives of complete strangers?

EDIT: Anyone AT ALL....??

hi elixirmixer
us prometeo agape group ovvius who want information about our action see internete and read our post and line of our actions alchemy atudy deep reserch deep on ancien manoscript and work laboratory and edition of es : thesauro thesaurorum arcana divina pubblish so give at all (and not only accademic or specialist in language traslatio treu an operative and concrete alchemy text and mss etc and our Liberation plan by nwo etc etc but about this we speak after have see well and well verification the new contact ....

regard

alfr
08-16-2017, 08:20 AM
I'm just wondering, is there ANYBODY in this forum, who's main purpose in learning alchemy was to heal people of disease and make a difference in the lives of complete strangers?

EDIT: Anyone AT ALL....??

hi elixirmixer
us prometeo agape group ovvious
and about who want information about our action in alchemy study deep the tradition true research on manuuscript true with true indication operative and our deep work an experiment in laboratory and tralation and pubblish for all true manuscripts rc (can see our action alchemy in internet )

example editions thesauro thesaurorun arcana divina and many different manuscripts rc etc tha we have our translation by original hanf writw in genman of 1700 and publish for all an for give at all true operative rc alchemy text and mss and uor Liberation plan against nwo ( can see internet a bout us action but about deep this we speak only after very very deep verification of of the new contact ) but if one want know about our action in alchemy and against nwo can well read our post here and line of our actions alchemy etc

regard

elixirmixer
08-16-2017, 08:42 AM
Okay Alfr. Let me see if im understanding you correctly.

You have a group.
That is focused on using alchemy to assist the masses against enslavement.
I can join, after an extensive verification process to make sure that i'm not an agent in disguise.
I can find your group by searching on the internet for the promethus agape group.

Am I correct in the way I understand you?

alfr
08-16-2017, 11:00 AM
hi elixirmixer
yes
But I clarify immediately
there is not an internet site we as an external filter we only have a home where we live together that is one
Socio-cultural prometeo agape and editions is this is the external high cultural facade and high alchemical research that we have decided to present publicly and this is manifested on the outside
WITH THE EDITIONS agape that since 1990 publish TESTS and
Manuscripts RC OPERATIVE (but not have any web is only one like a pass word or our letter info contacts)

Untraceable and inestimable very rare texts and manuscripts of true ALKIMIA that we have decided to orient the researchers to the true ancient and operative traditional alchemy PUT TO THE PROVISIONS OF ALL (AND NOT OF THE 4 USUALS RESTRICTED ACCADEMIC OR LESS LANGUAGE EXPERTS)
And for WHO THE TEXTS CAN NOT BUY IT AND DEMONSTRATE THEM WE DO IT ALL GRATIS

AND THIS IS OUR PRESENTATION OF LEVEL HIGHLY academic research and deep research and study and deep and serious experimentation on texts and manuscripts really rare and unrecognizable and then we think (with TRADITIONAL TESTES and VERY RARE MANUSCRIPT ETC to which in years of wanted Masking we had access) that the real serious alchemy will play a major role in the future of the liberation of humanity from the slavery imposed by dachi is behind the nwo
And that the use of alchemy for this purpose is one of the important reasons why we were left alchemy by the fathers "ANCIENT"

Nb WE HAVE DECIDED TO USE THE EDITIONS agape trometeo and the production and publication of unrecognizable manuscripts RC ETC
As a choice of public facade, also because we have always struggled in very hard and extreme forms against the SIM/NWO (nb an sure we are not pacifists...) and so we do not want to create forcing people who are only interested in collaborating with We NB without the utmost secrets to serious and profound research and a high level of study and serious experimentation of alchemical work in the laboratory where we are very well advanced

But FOR CHOICE we have nothing on the web and we do not have our sites or our stuff are others who write about our actions as an external filter we have agape editions and prometeo group but contact with us is done in some antagonistic environments to the nwo who also practice all 'Alchemy but all in all the countries where we are like a pass word or contacts filtered in various forums where we are present with some of us and fb and forums for which we choose to intervene forum

But this is almost always how it is a word pass and then after the contact there are public people of the agape editions that filter and see if it really exists and how it exists and where there is an identity of alchemical ideas and even if it is required Action against the nwo and his puppeteers
We are a network
Very prepared and ready for the need and very extensive and international with many points of connection in various states and nations

But to collaborate with us apart from where we intervene for choice and to try to orientate with series publications and translations thesauro thesaurorum arcana divina etc etc etc and with targeted interviews on forums etc on the contexts in them manuscripts published by us contained in them texts of Alchemical instructions and recipes on svp dissolveti philosophali elixir etc

NB ABOUT ALL THIS SVP ALKAEST DISSOLVENT UNIVERSAL CIRCULATUS MAJUS VINI WITH URINA PARIGINO E SUMMETA VIOLETTA LICIDARIUS ALL ABOUT THE STONE WITH URINA ETC ETC ETC
WE FOR PRECISE CHOICE WE ABOUT ALL IT WE SPEAK WITH NOT SECRET AND WE IN FORUM ETC SPEAK CLEAR OF THE KEY OF THE PROCEDURE AND GIVE CLEAR THE STEP OF THESE
SO WE DO THIS STEP BY STEP FOR CAN ARRIVED ALL TOGETHER STEP BY STEP KEY SECRET BY KEY SECRET TO DEEP UNDERSTOOD THE KEY OF SECRET PROCESS AND THE SECRET KEY OF THE SECRET ARCANUM ALCHEMY
(nb many very important secret KEY of the alchemy arcanum are il this tragic 2000 century it is all pubblic in manuscrit and test in pubblic library or in internet on line text and manuscripts BUT this very less konw it )

Towards a serious research and study of the secrets of alchemy which in the tragic century 2000 are ably childish infantile and opsoleti as the enemy the nwo and his puppeteers are already well acquainted with alchemy and also with derivatives from it we oppress and enslave and that Instead true alchemy was also left to make humanity free and elevated in harmony with the light that is our true source of all of us

(And this use of the alchemical function also has the unquestionable evidence that we are well procured because they needed to understand the game against all humanity)
This is what is right to say to understand the purpose and why the precise secrets of our actions both in deep research and deep study of alchemy and other ...

my best regards

Luxus
08-17-2017, 11:00 PM
The Illuminati are NOT a body of adepts, nor do they have access to that power you speak of. Simply they are a group of leaches who in the late 17th century envied the political and economic ties the masonic brothers had access to. In those days in Europe being a mason would put you in a good position to climb socially, university professors, police chiefs, bank managers, politicians, judges etc etc....this is the type of material power they hungered for. They decided to infiltrate masonry lodge by lodge starting in Germany. Soon they had their own lodges exclusively for themselves, their members would blackball anyone else who tried to join their lodges. They used the connections gained to place themselves in key positions of power throughout Europe. They were not initiates then, they are not initiates now. You would be very disappointed if you met these people, their area of interest in economic and political with a psychotic desire to control others and rule over others. One world government is their greatest wet dream.

elixirmixer
08-18-2017, 01:15 AM
While every thing you have said may have some truth behind it, I believe you are talking about the "12 Magestics" or 'The illuminati' however, the masons, the rosy cross, the 12 Magestics, ALL form at the top, a capstone and this capstone is built of some extremely powerful jewish kabbalists. You don't get to control the whole world just by being greedy. You actually have to know how the world opperates on an energetic level as well.

So I'm sorry, but this is IMO a huge underestimation of your enemy.

alfr
08-18-2017, 01:41 AM
hi elixirmixer i agree with you
yes we know very well that you have reason it s true what yuo say ans a questio must ask it is who are the true puppeteers under 'The illuminati'and way they have a control in the world and in real what they want

elixirmixer
08-18-2017, 01:54 AM
Yes Alfr. What they really are doing is serving a Demi-God from outer-space (believe it or not) if we look at things like Behemion grove and the black masses of the 32nd degree, we see that a lot of this stuff involves the sacrificing of virgins.

What do they really want? Your kids!

Why do thy want money and control? To fuck kids, to kill kids for there overlords. To eat kids and drink their blood, they believe that it gives them strength. I've even ha other deep conspiracy researchers go as far as to say that there are rumours spread at the top saying that if you fuck a virgin child in their arse tht it steals significant energy from all their chakras, extendin the life and youth power of the abuser.

Horrible fucking people Lux and has very little to do with money actually. Money is just another control tool. That's all.

I know what I just said sounds like a sick and twisted fantasy, sadly, it is the truth. And these are the reasons I have stopped my research into them, because it makes me feel sick in the guts when I do.

In there eyes "all world leaders through history were doing it, why shouldn't we?" that is their mentality. Also the mason level people, governments, movie stars ect... Are being told lies by the capstone such as "we wrote the bible to control the masses and God isn't actually real", (which is not true) "there is no such this as good and evil", (which is not true) ect, those who forsake God, and sought power, found nothing but these lies waiting for them, and then they get invited to private sex parties and are slowly groomed into commuting worse and worse offences until they can never consider goin back to a normal, moral, way of thinking. After all, once you've raped and killed a child, your never going to be normal ever again. The devil has you now and you are a slave unto him.

Blood is the currency of the gods. Just read the Torah.

elixirmixer
08-18-2017, 02:24 AM
Allow me to provide a personal experience:

I asked my 32nd degree uncle if I could have a nomination to join the freemasons (mainly for the tax benefits) and my uncle, who hasn't spoken to me since I was 8 years old said this to me:

"I'm not sure I am in an agreeance with your request, as the whole world knows how you have publicly declared their evil. I would consider this before applyin to Grand Lodge."

You tell me, how, an more importantly WHY my uncle, who doesn't know me, N I assure you has no interest in me whatsoever, is somehow aware of my online happens, even when it's not in my own name?? Why are they intersted in what I have to say about them if all they are worried about is their political status? How could I possible affect tier political status, I am considered a mad man by most of society...

How did he Even fucking know what I have said?

Do not underestimate these people, as I am so foolishly doing here. I don't even know why I'm telling you all this anyway, I'm sure the vast majority of you don't give te slightest shit ("give a shit" is Aussie slang for "care")

In the end, when I was in the romance of my youth I had aspirations of rallying troops and destroying the illuminati, alas, I've grown up now, I don't care what they do, I can only hope that they will be punished in the afterlife (which I'm sure they will)

Really I do actually just want to join them so I can keep my family secure through the turbulent times that are coming, however, as I've said, I've been refused entry because of my rebellious character and public roasting of them.

Alfr, I'm not sure what you and your group expect of me, if anything, I find it hard to understand you. If you need anything or have anything to give to me to help my mission please PM me and try your best to take your time and be clear please and thank you.

Kibric
08-18-2017, 03:10 AM
i'm pretty sure that you don't get nominated to join Masons
you show up to a lodge ask to join and pay your dues
The only requirement is a belief in a supreme being
who that is , is up to you

Refusal ? for speaking badly about them...rebellious character... unheard of
they can only refuse you if you break one of their rules
speaking badly about Masons before you become one of them is not a rule breaker

They're plenty of Lodges in Oz
its really not that hard to join them if you wish

but if you do join
your conscience might become a hindrance

elixirmixer
08-18-2017, 03:17 AM
i'm pretty sure that you don't get nominated to join Masons


This sentence shows the depth of your knowledge on this subject.

elixirmixer
08-18-2017, 03:19 AM
However, I would actually love to be proven wrong and am going to try and apply

Kibric
08-18-2017, 03:22 AM
Ok fella

you don't get nominated to join the Masons
show me where you do huh ?


This sentence shows the depth of your knowledge on this subject.

Out of the many Masons I've talked with not one was " Nominated "

your rants about Masons and Illuminati shows how little you know about their world
you cant get refused for speaking badly about them before you join
or having a rebellious nature
that's pure Bullshit

what Lodge does you Uncle belong to ?

elixirmixer
08-18-2017, 04:04 AM
I haven't spoke about the masonic world AT ALL on this thread, other than my tax comment and the part of nominations. What I was talking about, does not have a name (that I am aware of ((meaning, that they DO have a name, but that I am not aware what it is))), other than the affectionate name I have given it called The Cap Stone.

The masonic world is one of business and ritualistic education. A slow unfolding of the sub-conscious, if you choose to bother yourself with such things.

The illuminati are again higher on the scale, dealing with things like mass hypnosis and other 'more important issues' than just business alone, such as the "work" they do in co-ordination with extraterrestrial, no different than someone using evocational magic to make a deal with a diety of some kind.

And I know this to be a fact.

I will not be telling you who are where my uncle is.

You forget your place Kibric.

Kibric
08-18-2017, 04:09 AM
You forget your place Kibric
My place is calling you on your obvious bullshit

You don't get nominated to join Masonry
You cant be refused for being rebellious
Lodges and membership are open to the public
Members and they're degrees are not kept secret


And I know this to be a fact.

You know nothing


I will not be telling you who are where my uncle is.
I asked for the Lodge he belongs to
its not secret information

elixirmixer
08-18-2017, 04:21 AM
The rules concerning membership are different for every country, another thing that your oh-so knowledgeable self failed to mention.

Yes, application for membership is open to the public, however, MEMBERSHIP is only available for people who are CHOSEN. You don't just walk into the Freemasons. Your time and lack of knowledge are making me feel like calling you a dipshit, which I do not want to do. Therefore I'm terminating this conversation because as I've mentioned many times i do not like thinking about the intricacies of this world dominating force. Ignorance is bliss. Knowledge is suffering. I suffer during conversations like these.

The purpose of this thread, was to help advise people how to remove themselves as much as they are able, from the tyrant, without having to join it, unless undercover.

As I made clear, with the personal experience that I had with my uncle who is undoubtably much higher ranked than anyone you spend your time with, they do heavy background checks on ALL applications, require that you meet there PERSONAL AGENDA, not applications only, but also anybody that speaks out against them, aka: me in my youth.

Don't. Just don't.

Kibric
08-18-2017, 04:31 AM
The rules concerning membership are different for every country
There are differences


MEMBERSHIP is only available for people who are CHOSEN
Bullshit

If you do not know any Freemasons, you are welcome to approach the United Grand Lodge of NSW and the ACT, which is the governing body of Freemasonry in these areas. If you are interested in joining you should contact the Membership Co-ordinator and you will be informed of the necessary steps you need to take to become a Freemason. Through this process – known as the Membership Assistance Scheme (MAS) – you will be asked to attend a preliminary interview with a representative of the United Grand Lodge before you meet with members of the Lodge you may join.
https://www.masons.org.au/discover-masonry/how-to-join.html

no nomination
you apply
have interview

if you fufil the requirements and pay your dues your in
not CHOSEN...


I asked my 32nd degree uncle if I could have a nomination to join the freemasons
you don't get nominated so that's bullshit


You don't just walk into the Freemasons
no horrible criminal record and yes that's exactly what happens all over the world
in many different Lodges
infact membership has waned in the past 20 years they would be happy to accept
as many as they can
background checks are about as extensive as you will get in a job interview


but also anybody that speaks out against them
so half the internet then...
its just not logistically possible

If you knew anything about Masonry their Lodge meetings are boring
they really only do charity work
its an old boys club

you cant even give me the name of your Uncles Lodge


As I made clear, with the personal experience that I had with my uncle
but I thought your uncle hasn't talked to you since you were 8?


and my uncle, who hasn't spoken to me since I was 8 years old said this to me .I'm not sure I am in an agreeance with your request, as the whole world knows how you have publicly declared their evil. I would consider this before applyin to Grand Lodge."

from that you got all the inner workings of Masonry ?
was there more to the conversation ?

elixirmixer
08-18-2017, 05:19 AM
if you fufil the requirements and pay your dues your in
not CHOSEN...

IF you fulfil the REQUIREMENTS


you can ask to join/apply

Yes.


you don't get nominated so that's bullshit

2B1ASK1

Nomination helps with your application, and yes, in recent years, the requirements have gotten less strict


you cant even give me the name of your Uncles Lodge

Tell me why the fuck I would do that. Its just creepy that you even asked. Like I'm "BULLSHITTING" that my uncle is a mason. Get a life.


but I thought your uncle hasn't talked to you since you were 8?

not face to face, no.


from that you got all the inner workings of Masonry?

Stupid question...


was there more to the conversation ?

Yes. And we have exchanged a few emails over the years, which are mostly him rattling off crazy old history lessons about jews and fake jews and all the rest of it.

EDIT:
from that you got all the inner workings of Masonry ? What website are we on? What subjects have I been talking about, do you doubt that I could possibly know the basics of masonry holy motha of shiva.

Schmuldvich
08-18-2017, 05:21 AM
You forget your place Kibric.

My place is calling you on your obvious bullshit
...Welcome to the club! http://i.imgur.com/lZxgEEA.gif





You don't just walk into the Freemasons.

Don't. Just don't.

http://www.masonicinfo.com/member.htm



Freemasonry has its lodges throughout the free world. You'll find Masons meeting in almost every town and village and - except where repressive governments make their existence difficult - they're readily found. None of these lodges was ever organized as a result of any type of 'missionary' work: they came into existence because a group of Masons wanted to share the friendship and fraternity with others in the area.

What is SO often misunderstood is a simple fact: there are few but important requirements to become a Freemason!

While they are stated in slightly different words in various jurisdictions (and a few jurisdictions may have one or two requirements beyond these), they basically are as follows:



Being a man, freeborn, of good repute and well-recommended;

A belief in a Supreme Being;

Ability to support one's self and family;

Of lawful age; and

Come to Freemasonry of their "own free will and accord".


Freemasonry is an initiatic experience. You can't become a Mason by reading a book or by hanging out on the internet.[/B]

And further...



If you've read this far and are now interested in Masonic membership for yourself, simply visit your local Masonic lodge or call the Grand Lodge for your area. Masons, except in countries where persecution may require it, don't hide: our buildings (unlike most of our detractors) are clearly found in virtually every city and town throughout the inhabitable planet! Click for a list of Grand Lodges. Nearly all of them have locator lists on their site to assist you in finding your local lodge.

Seems as simple as walking in and asking to join...



Why you "want to join the illuminati" is beyond me, elixirmixer. :confused:

This whole thread is a joke!

You have openly admitted that you would "sell-out" in order to protect your wife and child (which, by the way, would end up not protecting them). Have you forgotten about yourself???

What do you believe Kibric's "place" is? I was not aware that we have "places" here. Do you feel as if your "place" is higher/different?

elixirmixer
08-18-2017, 05:24 AM
I'm done with this conversation.

I thank you for it, because you have reminded me that it has gotten easier to join of late and maybe i can sneak in under the radar of my Uncle.

Cheers.

Kibric
08-18-2017, 05:26 AM
Ok

we wont butt heads over this
your a nice guy

best of luck to ya

elixirmixer
08-18-2017, 05:30 AM
You too mate cheers.

elixirmixer
08-18-2017, 05:33 AM
...Welcome to the club! http://i.imgur.com/lZxgEEA.gif



LOL!

Schmuldvich
08-18-2017, 05:40 AM
You forget your place Kibric.

My place is calling you on your obvious bullshit

...Welcome to the club! http://i.imgur.com/lZxgEEA.gif

LOL!
The Fraternal Order Of Smixing only has a few basic requirements:


Being a man, freeborn, of good repute and well-recommended;
A belief in a Supreme Being;
Ability to support one's self and family;
Of lawful age; and
Come to Smixery of their "own free will and accord".



Anyone is able to join. Simply get yo' smix on!!


oh wait...

zoas23
08-18-2017, 05:40 AM
Surprised that nobody said it... the Illuminati group WAS simply a group with a strong opposition to Monarchies and a strong belief in the separation of Church and State (they actually wanted to destroy all the power that the churches have). They were also very much into thinking of ways in which the distribution of money would be more fair or equal (i.e, their opposition to the "right to inherit", except a very small amount of money).
Last, but not least, they were a conspiracy group with a bad idea: their plan was to infiltrate Freemasonry as to control it and promote their ideals there... they completely failed.
Other than that, they had big troubles with 2 specific groups: the Rosicrucians in Germany (the Rosicrucians were Monarchists by then... with the idea that a strong King was needed to confront the Church, they shared the belief of Separation of Church and State though -their ideology was very similar to the ideology of Dante actually)... And the Martinists in France, who were quite phobic about politics and had the idea of not mixing spirituality and politics.
Finally, the IDEAS of the Illuminati were not especially original... most of the so called "freethinkers" of their time had more or less similar ideas... which were manifested in the North American Revolution and in a best way in the French Revolution (which, contrary to several popular conspiracy theories, were not influenced by the Illuminati group).
The Illuminati group had the structure of a para-masonic organization... and a LOT of internal conflicts (mostly about the validity of "Magic"... some of them wanted to turn the group into some sort of "magical organization", whilst its founder and several others didn't believe in magical practices and, as to say it colloquially, they thought that such thing was idiotic).
The Illuminati group is DEAD... no need to "destroy" it... it got destroyed mostly by its own internal conflicts, but also because they underestimated a lot of things and considered that it was going to be easier than they thought.

Considering that the world economic powers have something to do with the Illuminati or even that they have an "illuminati influence" is probably more absurd than describing Donald Trump as a crypto-marxist.


Perhaps, now that about 60% of all the species on the earth are now extinct, and about the same of all forests cut down and never replaced, now might be a good time to start to do something about it.

Going vegetarian can be a good start! (I am somehow joking here).


Ghandi, was a pretty cool dude. I think most ignorant westerners would probably think of some spiritual leader, and I suppose by the end he was. Ghanaian actually studied Law in London, an was more of a civil rights activist than anything else. His message was one of tolerance, and peace.

He had good ideas and bad ideas. There's a lot of good things to say about him, but he was also a very racist person and a rabid enthusiast of the caste system without any interest in providing a better living to the "lower caste" (quite the opposite actually).


I want people to know that in their own way, they can make a big difference in the world and they don't have to go around taking out super-rich people in order to do it (even though it couldn't hurt).

You are giving good ideas. I know 4 main ways (or ideologies) to make a difference:

1) The Anarch way... which is mostly explained by Ernst Jünger, which involves a non-revolutionary way of boycotting the Status Quo... and is highly individualistic.

2) The revolutionary way... which must always involve a political organization... I do not know any revolution that didn't involve a political organization.

3) The "vegetarian" way (this is a colloquial name, because it doesn't necessarily involve vegetarianism)... this way is quite similar to the one you suggest. Being myself a vegetarian since I was a kid, I've heard it a million times... the general idea (in the "vegetarian utopia") is to avoid purchasing ANYTHING from industries that in a way or other harm animals as to produce them an economical damage that will eventually force them to close. This song explains the idea quite well:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NZpEm_M5E8

The problem of this idea is... in 30 years of being vegetarian and having heard the idea a million times, I have NEVER seen ANY industry closing or changing dramatically because of the "vegetarian boycott".

As I've said, "Vegetarian" was a colloquial and inadequate name... you can also call it the "anti-consumerism" way and it is the same. My vegetarian heart loves this way, but my brain knows that it doesn't really "change the world". As an Utopia, it is the one I love the most... but if I get realistic, I do not think that it works in a large scale IF the idea is to REALLY change the world.

4) Neo-Tribal style... Maybe one of the most popular books about it is "Turn on - Tune in - Drop out" by Tim Leary (as far as I remember it is a book that doesn't mention LSD at all)... in the long run the idea of Leary is not TOO far from what several North American puritan groups did (Amish, Shakers, etc)... establishing "tribes" or "little colonies" with their own rules that exist almost as an independent state.

_________________

This is an issue that makes me scratch my head often and I do not really have an answer for this problem.


i'm pretty sure that you don't get nominated to join Masons
you show up to a lodge ask to join and pay your dues
The only requirement is a belief in a supreme being

This is something that changes from country to country... In the country where I live your chances of being accepted at a lodge are close to zero, unless you are invited by someone who is already a Freemason. The famous "to be one, ask one".
I know that in some other countries the "just go there and apply to join" works... but it's not like that everywhere.
(Other than that, Freemasonry is not quite big here and I have probably some 30 friends who are Freemasons... so it's not exactly incredibly difficult unless you are an asocial hermit. In my own case, I am not especially interested in freemasonry).

P.S, I do not know what kind of bizarre connection someone has imagined between Freemasonry and taxes, but none of my Freemason friends is excepted from paying taxes... I think the priests don't pay taxes here, I don't know in other countries, but if the thing is to avoid paying taxes, then you can become a catholic priest (in my own case, I'd rather pay taxes! :p )

black
08-18-2017, 05:55 AM
YOU ARE NOT BULLSHITTING MR. MIXER

I have to back you on this one Mr. Mixer.

These days it may be different, but when I was a bit younger to join the
masons, you had to be nominated by a friend that was already in that lodge.

Perhaps this was only in Australia.

Kibric
08-18-2017, 05:59 AM
but if the thing is to avoid paying taxes, then you can become a catholic priest
I didn't know that
what country are you in
I was thinking of moving...:D


“By establishing reading societies, and subscription libraries, and taking these under our direction, and supplying them through our labours, we may turn the public mind which way we will.”Adam Weishaupt

gave me chills

elixirmixer
08-18-2017, 06:01 AM
My tax ride-off claim was a bit of an over-exaggeration. I believe that it's more like a special number that enables you to clear fines with the vehicle registrations office here in Australia. It also says the same thing on "the Simpsons"

As well as there being differences in the applications, there are also differences in the privileges. How rich is the country you live in, in general?

Also please remember that what is given in say degree 13 is never revealed to those in degree 12. So, ask you friends about their degree number, the higher the are, the more they will know about the order, since with EVERY degree, there are new secrets given to the initiate that they didn't have previously.

Thank you Zoas, your knowledge on European history is fucking amazing, truly.

elixirmixer
08-18-2017, 06:05 AM
Thanks Black, I was starting to doubt myself, but yes, nomination was required, it has possibly changed... However, I dot think so, because you have to "2B1ASK1" and I don't think other masons are allowed to nominate you unless they have known you for two years or more.

Kinetic is right about numbers dropping and perhaps things have changed as I did not see anything on the website about nomination, although it did still say, if you want to join, talk to a Freemason (2B1ASK1)

zoas23
08-18-2017, 06:22 AM
I didn't know that
what country are you in
I was thinking of moving...

Argentina. You also get an indirect salary from the State too.
(Indirect = the State pays to the Church and the Church pays you... and the Church pays no taxes).
Other than that, if you are a priest it is quite easy to create a Charity Foundation without much control from the State and you can receive money from industries... and they can deduct that from their taxes (a lot of industries do it, not because they have much interest in supporting the Church, but because it's easy to say: "I can give you a million... my only condition is that you have to give me back a half of what I'm giving you").
Last but not least, different forms of gambling are legal, but a percent of the money that the organizer of the gamble earns HAS to go to a charity (not every charity is eligible... and I think it is a 10%, but I am not sure about the percentage), in most cases this money goes to a Church-owned charity... i.e, this is typical for the TV shows which have some sort of contest with a monetary prize for the winner.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A83fVpjF2R4

Luxus
08-18-2017, 10:45 AM
While every thing you have said may have some truth behind it, I believe you are talking about the "12 Magestics" or 'The illuminati' however, the masons, the rosy cross, the 12 Magestics, ALL form at the top, a capstone and this capstone is built of some extremely powerful jewish kabbalists. You don't get to control the whole world just by being greedy. You actually have to know how the world opperates on an energetic level as well.

So I'm sorry, but this is IMO a huge underestimation of your enemy.

I am aware that they are into Satanic mass and they perform all kinds of sick depraved activity's at these masses. They themselves as I said do not possess the power you suggest, it is a lowly form of power they have embraced, spiritually sick people "infected" with demonic forces. Their main goal from the beginning has been to bring down Europe and the former European colonies established elsewhere in the world (inc Australia). They originally started by gaining control of publishing houses and newspapers to spread their propaganda. With the invention of radio,TV and now the internet their influence on the minds of the masses has increased. They are the ones behind communism, Marxism etc. They promote themselves as being selfless and their ideology as benign but behind this they celebrate that embracing these things will result in war and destruction. Venezuela is currently reaping the benefits of embracing such political ideology....and no doubt the bankers are getting richer from Venezuelas implosion.

alfr
08-18-2017, 03:29 PM
Let's get enlightened and NWO a bit clarity

Identifying the Masons or Jews or certain peoples or categories of people as part of enlightened is a huge mistake and means they do not know what they are talking about (ie the Jewish people are not a people responsible for anything and is a people equal to others in A secular and democratic majority with its positive and negative ((And imho ALL the Jewish people have all the reasons imself for
Defend and fight With extreme hardness for efend inself against the all medieval primitive sub human ISLAMIC TERRORIST hamas Hezbollah ISIS etc and the people jewish have all reason for made and use all the hard system of hard defence also against all Islam medioeval and integralist state iran quatar Saudi Arabia Turkey etc and imho the people jewish have all reason for attack and destroy the islam for defend him life ) so clear well this now it is only just a very very small oligarchy of the Jewish ghota which is part of the so-called illuminated

And NB many masson and martinist etc are worthy of ordinary and good people, many of the masson in form so superficially seek and study alchemy esoterism etc.

Therefore clear well this

now are just olìnly the oligarchies the well-selected and well-chosen members of economic and MILITARY ELITs some tops of the various lobby and multinationals and some members of the elite world politics not that small members of the extreme scientific elites (see, for example, won Braun ex ss Head of the missile program nasa) and are just a few of the tops of these lobbies and elites that are part of the enlightened and are just these tiny elites they want to implement between oppression and slavery and blood AND DOMINATION etc the NWO

And this small elite that in even smaller form still practiced black and other very obscure BLACK theurgency that was already activated by the SS NAZIS in the past and in this regard the "good" and "dear" Swaller de Lubiz knew so much OF THIS SA SS TACTICAL AND STRATEGIC PLAN ....
And what we are claiming we have unmistakable evidence

Of which we are part when working for the same copies and purposes of global awakening, but the real question is to understand who the real puppeteers of the elites are, and if they understand that everything will fit in the right context

And even realized that it will ? FOR TRUE AND IF UNDERSTOOD THIS also this reveal what really alchemy really ALSO WATH also serves alchemy for .... and wath are also one of the use of its elixir etc

My best regard

elixirmixer
08-18-2017, 10:23 PM
Getting a big list of names of mega rich pedo's would be good. The thin about killing a super rich pedo, is that when he's dead, his money gets dispersed, sometimes to less evil inclined children of the pedo, sometimes it is split between many, however, in a mans death, there is a lot of retail therapy and what I'm saying is the the cash trickles down to the lower class somewhat.

This is my pedo bashing side coming out again. I can't engage in this thread anymore I'm sorry. Really interesting topic however it does bring out the worst in me, another sign that there are dark spirits associated with these types of 'elites'

And yes Alfr, a lot of these high level elites are people who already recieved classified information about the American government through the military. If you can shoot an innocent Muslim in te face and not break a sweat, you get a promotion, so to speak.... Catch ya's in other threads, keep thinkin of ways to be a better impact on your country, when you grow really old and are about to die, try to take down a couple rich pedo's before you cark it. You'll be doing the rest of us a huge favour.

Love you all.