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ArcherSage
09-28-2017, 08:30 PM
How could chemistry after all this time not have experimented with every possible combination/dissolution/coagulation in existence? To the physical alchemist, what is the "secret" that chemistry does not understand? A wise man once said, someone who cannot explain their craft to a 7 year old, does not understand their craft. This seems to be the case with almost everyone in the community, no matter what physical substance one works with there is but only one true substance that is capable of surpassing the material world yet affecting it, that being aether or as Hermes said "heaven the 1st element". This medium is everywhere, as Tesla/faraday strongly believed. Modern science has already achieved transmutation in more than one way, the problem is the philosophers stone is supposed to prevent one from dying. Does the final product of the stone produce a NEW substance that can cure/prevent aging, or is it simply using what already exists to achieve this? If so, why is it not known yet? Obviously producing Gold wouldn't save your life (except financially), so the elixir must be the goal. So what is the elixir made of? This is why I believe the true craft resides in the sexual/psychological aspect of our being, as it is the life energy that sustains oneself. This energy survives death, no body can. I still do not understand why people think the body can live forever, as hermes even said in divine pymander that nothing in heaven is mortal, everything on earth mortal. The stone may be a real thing you can create, it has nothing to do with eternal life. I believe it is more along the lines of the gnostic "chrism" as the process for achieving this state. Of course every single text written about alchemy is SUBJECTIVE, meaning nothing can be taken from it that is obvious, it is all written in parable/metaphor with the exception of the ones that are blatantly obvious that tell you the various things to combine and cook for x amount of time. More than anything, Alchemy has become searching for a needle in a haystack driving oneself crazy, rather than looking internally. I have yet to see anything close to what the physical alchemists claim is the stone or the elixir, conveniently nobody wants to share their "secrets" when in reality, years of research have yielded no results.

elixirmixer
09-28-2017, 09:33 PM
Well actually I've asked many times for a lab worker that, in exchange for picking up the pace around here I would happily share with them the secrets.

It seems everyone wants the goods, without doing the work required. What country are you in ArcherSage? And can you nominate me for masonry?

black
09-29-2017, 12:23 AM
Well actually I've asked many times for a lab worker that, in exchange for picking up the pace around here I would happily share with them the secrets.

That sounds a lot like bartering off Gods secrets for a few hours work.

Could this be seen as prostituting of the Most Holly of Gods Secrets ???

As I see it .....these secrets are for God to give.....Only when he sees fit to give.

And to whom to give !!!

But as usual... I could be wrong.

Kibric
09-29-2017, 12:38 AM
I still do not understand why people think the body can live forever,
what body ?
what do we really know about our body ?
have we really explored this amazing bit of kit ?


the stone may be a real thing you can create, it has nothing to do with eternal life
what is eternal life ?
what body was Christ talking about ?
the story says his body became Immortal

what changed his physical body ?
Mary must of had questions...:(
someone must of asked questions we might ask...
why do you smell sweet ?
do you cast a shadow in sunlight ?


I have yet to see anything close to what the physical alchemists claim is the stone or the elixir, conveniently nobody wants to share their "secrets" when in reality, years of research have yielded no results.
if some one gave it too you ? is practical experiments you mean by research or looking into others ?
its happened, people have been misguided . Edward Kelly took from a welsh monks grave...
did they even really have a clue ? people in history are not really that different from us
what would we write , if we had found it ?
even if someone has it , they might not fully understand it
alchemists make long of the short, they say others are full of shit and vice versca
they are just like us :D
finding someone in person who has the Stone is harder than trying yourself to make it
will it make you laugh when you find it ?

elixirmixer
09-29-2017, 02:09 AM
That sounds a lot like bartering off Gods secrets for a few hours work.

Could this be seen as prostituting of the Most Holly of Gods Secrets ???

As I see it .....these secrets are for God to give.....Only when he sees fit to give.

And to whom to give !!!

But as usual... I could be wrong.

God gives His secrets, so that you will(can) work for Him ;)

Kiorionis
09-29-2017, 02:50 AM
I have yet to see anything close to what the physical alchemists claim is the stone or the elixir, conveniently nobody wants to share their "secrets" when in reality, years of research have yielded no results.

What do you mean by the "physical alchemists"?

black
09-29-2017, 04:53 AM
God gives His secrets, so that you will(can) work for Him ;)

To work for him....yes.

But not to sell the secrets of the Great Work for a few pieces of silver.

This is why the Alchemists must be most Trustworthy.

Michael Sternbach
09-29-2017, 10:22 AM
Manufacturing the Stone requires processes that modern chemistry would consider useless and superstitious, so they are not being researched in the first place.

And the Stone doesn't consist of ordinary matter, it must be some kind of "hypermatter" that can have the described effects. And this does somehow tie in with what the ancients called aether/quintessence, for which it seems to be a medium.

JDP
09-29-2017, 10:54 AM
How could chemistry after all this time not have experimented with every possible combination/dissolution/coagulation in existence?

Because the subject and all its possible variables is so vast that ordinary chemistry simply cannot investigate all of it, not even in the roughly 250 or so years it has been around. It just hasn't been around long enough. In fact, you can also add the roughly 1800 previous years of experimentation by legions of "puffers", "multipliers", "chymists", etc. who long before ordinary chemistry even existed also tried a whole bunch of things and failed to discover the appropriate substances, their proportions and sequence of reactions which generate the Stone. However, some of these indefatigable empirical investigators did make their own positive discoveries in the process of trying to discover the secrets of the alchemists (see further below for this.)


To the physical alchemist, what is the "secret" that chemistry does not understand?

The manufacture of the peculiar solvent (which can take a liquid and a solid form) that makes alchemy possible. Without understanding this, you are hopelessly lost. There is no "substitute" for this solvent. It is what makes alchemy unique and the stumbling block for most seekers. Unlike "chymistry" and ordinary chemistry, which rely on a bunch of different solvents for their processes, alchemy wholly relies on this secret solvent for all its procedures.


A wise man once said, someone who cannot explain their craft to a 7 year old, does not understand their craft. This seems to be the case with almost everyone in the community, no matter what physical substance one works with there is but only one true substance that is capable of surpassing the material world yet affecting it, that being aether or as Hermes said "heaven the 1st element". This medium is everywhere, as Tesla/faraday strongly believed.

"Aether" is nothing but an uncorroborated theory. Just about as "proven" as "Spiritus Mundi" or the Tooth Fairy. In other words: a purely speculative claim.


Modern science has already achieved transmutation in more than one way,

Actually all transmutations achieved by modern science are by means of "smashing" particles with one another. Ordinary chemistry accepted such theories, speculations and empirical methods of physics and allowed a supposed "impossibility" to be imposed upon itself, namely: so-called chemical reactions cannot affect the nuclei (the internal area that supposedly gives the so-called elements their individual "identities") of tiny particles they call "atoms", all "chemical" reactions take place on the "outer" areas of these "atoms", where even tinier particles called "electrons" are (capriciously) located, therefore a transmutation cannot be achieved by making any substances react with one another. Of course, anyone acquainted with some of the effective empirical methods and proofs of transmutation of the old "chymists", all of which in fact work by making some substances react in certain ways (in other words, what ordinary chemists indiscriminately label with the blanket phrase "chemical reactions"), will have a good laugh at such claims based on such specious speculations and theories about matter. You will know that INVARIABLY getting small amounts of silver and gold from metals where these two precious metals were NOT THERE BEFORE such reactions took place (this is very important to be established, because ordinary chemists always desperately try to invalidate such evidence by claiming "impurities" or "faulty methods" must be the reason for the positive results; read the articles on the subject by ordinary chemists like Vladimir Karpenko, for example, and you will see what I mean) is not only hardly any such "impossibility" but, once you learn the appropriate reactions and techniques, in fact fairly easy to repeat over and over, again and again, always with success. Small amounts of silver can be obtained from metals like lead, copper, bismuth, etc. and small amounts of gold can be obtained from silver through "chymical" methods (notice: NOT "chemical"; their vulgar chemical methods do not work, they do nothing to metals, which is the main factor why they have fooled themselves into thinking transmutation by means of reactions between substances is "impossible".)


the problem is the philosophers stone is supposed to prevent one from dying.

That is true only in Chinese alchemy. In "western" alchemy the Stone was said to prolong life, but not make you immortal.


Does the final product of the stone produce a NEW substance that can cure/prevent aging, or is it simply using what already exists to achieve this? If so, why is it not known yet? Obviously producing Gold wouldn't save your life (except financially), so the elixir must be the goal.

But what use is to live forever or for very long periods of time if you are a pauper who cannot afford even a roof over your head or a decent meal? You would be condemned to live a miserable life for ages; sort of like your own private "hell on earth". Longevity without wealth, or at least without means to live decently, is more of a curse than a blessing.


So what is the elixir made of? This is why I believe the true craft resides in the sexual/psychological aspect of our being, as it is the life energy that sustains oneself. This energy survives death, no body can.


That will not achieve anything. It's uncorroborated speculation/theories.



I still do not understand why people think the body can live forever, as hermes even said in divine pymander that nothing in heaven is mortal, everything on earth mortal.

Maybe because "Hermes" was really just a "nom de plume" of a group of men, not some "God" or what have you, and what they were writing about such things as "heaven" is nothing but pure speculation and beliefs they had no proof whatsoever about. It's the perpetual plight of all religions: blind faith in things that they themselves can never prove are actually real.


The stone may be a real thing you can create, it has nothing to do with eternal life. I believe it is more along the lines of the gnostic "chrism" as the process for achieving this state. Of course every single text written about alchemy is SUBJECTIVE, meaning nothing can be taken from it that is obvious, it is all written in parable/metaphor with the exception of the ones that are blatantly obvious that tell you the various things to combine and cook for x amount of time. More than anything, Alchemy has become searching for a needle in a haystack driving oneself crazy, rather than looking internally. I have yet to see anything close to what the physical alchemists claim is the stone or the elixir, conveniently nobody wants to share their "secrets" when in reality, years of research have yielded no results.

Unlike the totally uncorroborated claims of the "internal" pseudo-alchemists, who are the ones that can truly go insane with all their weird and useless "methods" that have never been proven to achieve anything of what they claim, at least there are plenty of independent (i.e. people who were not alchemists) historical eye-witnesses regarding the reality of the Philosophers' Stone.

Warmheart
09-29-2017, 03:18 PM
Because the subject and all its possible variables is so vast that ordinary chemistry simply cannot investigate all of it, not even in the roughly 250 or so years it has been around. It just hasn't been around long enough. In fact, you can also add the roughly 1800 previous years of experimentation by legions of "puffers", "multipliers", "chymists", etc. who long before ordinary chemistry even existed also tried a whole bunch of things and failed to discover the appropriate substances, their proportions and sequence of reactions which generate the Stone. However, some of these indefatigable empirical investigators did make their own positive discoveries in the process of trying to discover the secrets of the alchemists (see further below for this.)
All the possible combinations were done yet in the days of Paracelsus. People were throwing all kinds of things in their retorts and alembics but achieved nothing special.

As I see it, problem lies in the very approach of chemists/chymists. It is totally wrong. Ancient texts teach the truth and how to approach it. Modern science denies everything and builds stupid hypotheses, if hypotheses don't work, it makes up another stupid hypotheses. If not for the special few people (Newton, Faraday, Tesla, etc., who didn't expose the way they get their knowledge), the science of today would be at the level of V-XII centuries, it is totally stupid, useless, immovable and dead, full of nonsense and contradictions. And while people might argue over this, they can barely break the barrier of 100 years lifetime, and world is full of hunger, war and declining ecology.

I think, that one's worldview must be totally changed, and one must discard everything he learnt before, if he wants to approach the gates of the most transcendental Art, which is Alchemy.

"Aether" is nothing but an uncorroborated theory. Just about as "proven" as "Spiritus Mundi" or the Tooth Fairy. In other words: a purely speculative claim.
It is as proven as any modern scientific theory, if not more.

I am not bashing science per se, but I think that [beneficial] results of modern science are HIGHLY overestimated.

Salazius
09-29-2017, 03:28 PM
How could chemistry after all this time not have experimented with every possible combination/dissolution/coagulation in existence?

There is approximatively known to man 6 millions molecules and chemical substances. Not one of them is the Stone nor close from it. And this is quite amazing.

All of them are composed by 3 Radical Principles. This is even MORE amazing.



To the physical alchemist, what is the "secret" that chemistry does not understand?

- Repetitions.
- Not forcing Nature.
- Slow pace.
- Long time.
- Putrefaction.
- Three Principles.
- Spiritus.
- Polarities in an Hermetic vision.



A wise man once said, someone who cannot explain their craft to a 7 year old, does not understand their craft. This seems to be the case with almost everyone in the community,

Yes, a wise man said that. Don't be so quick to give such an opinion. We have here very good fellows that know their stuff.
No one need to reinvent the wheel everytime. "Fix the volatile." is the explanation. Sometime a single bird on a tree is suggesting that.



Modern science has already achieved transmutation in more than one way, the problem is the philosophers stone is supposed to prevent one from dying.

Actually it is not, it is offering another type of death. More *radical*.



Does the final product of the stone produce a NEW substance that can cure/prevent aging, or is it simply using what already exists to achieve this?

The final product of the Stone ? The Elixir ? No clear sorry.



If so, why is it not known yet?

It is.



Obviously producing Gold wouldn't save your life (except financially), so the elixir must be the goal.

A mean to an end more than a goal. And the goal is wider, wiser, wilder that anyone can imagine. Gold is a test of validity of the production.



So what is the elixir made of?

Of the Sulfur of the Stone, which is not the real interesting thing. It is more the load of energy that it can bear that is interesting.



This energy survives death, no body can. I still do not understand why people think the body can live forever, as hermes even said in divine pymander that nothing in heaven is mortal, everything on earth mortal.

Not even Paracelsus said it was forever. He said there is a natural limit given by God, according to him, that can go up to 900 years.



The stone may be a real thing you can create, it has nothing to do with eternal life.

It depends of the quality of the Stone and what you call "eternal life".



More than anything, Alchemy has become searching for a needle in a haystack driving oneself crazy, rather than looking internally.

It depends, not everybody do that. I do Yoga, and prayers and self analysis.
And if you don't look inside when working in the lab, then you do it wrong, because when it chews you, you can go anywhere else.



I have yet to see anything close to what the physical alchemists claim is the stone or the elixir, conveniently nobody wants to share their "secrets" when in reality, years of research have yielded no results.

Of course conveniently !

It takes first to believe to see in Hermetics. Opening the mind to possibilities.
By pure logic you can achieve the idea that the Stone is real, just by pure "alchemical equations". If you know how Nature Works then you can get a glimpse, maybe not all the details, but still.

JDP
09-30-2017, 03:13 AM
All the possible combinations were done yet in the days of Paracelsus. People were throwing all kinds of things in their retorts and alembics but achieved nothing special.

Not even by a long stretch. Just think of how many new substances have been prepared since those days that those old-timers knew nothing about. Yet, on the other hand, some people from those times, using their own methods, discovered and prepared things that modern chemists know rather little or nothing about. "Progress" is not always linear.

ArcherSage
09-30-2017, 05:50 AM
Again I ask. Most of the texts state that this universal substance is extracted from ALL things, but is easier to extract from plants, hence the spagyrics. Meaning, this substance is within things that we already have, so its a matter of extraction, is this substance the stone ? Or is the stone something that you CREATE that does NOT yet exist until you perform xyz ?

JDP
09-30-2017, 06:10 AM
Again I ask. Most of the texts state that this universal substance is extracted from ALL things, but is easier to extract from plants, hence the spagyrics. Meaning, this substance is within things that we already have, so its a matter of extraction, is this substance the stone ? Or is the stone something that you CREATE that does NOT yet exist until you perform xyz ?

You need to differentiate between theories/speculations/conjectures and empirical facts. The old alchemists were interested in seeing their theories/speculations/conjectures about matter corroborated somehow, but the fact is that they had no shred of evidence for them, even if the Stone is real. It is no different than the theories of Aristotle or Descartes regarding gravity. They were observing real facts and speculating regarding what exactly was going on, why all things fall towards the center of the earth. The empirical fact here is the observable phenomenon (i.e. all objects in free fall go from the periphery of the earth towards the center in a straightforward accelerating motion), and what could cause it (whether it was a "pulling" or "pushing" force, whether it was that all objects "want" to seek their "natural" place, etc.) is the realm of speculation/theories/conjectures. Similarly, the alchemists desperately wanted to impose their "universalist" views on what they were actually doing in their labs. So we have all these specious and suspicious claims, like the matter of the Stone supposedly being found "everywhere", which is quite unlikely considering all the actual historical and empirical evidence we have.

ArcherSage
09-30-2017, 06:49 AM
It makes more sense to me that there is something that can be extracted that is beneficial to your health, but isnt the fountain of youth. There are theories regarding oxidation and the process of death itself, oxidation of course causes rust, which is necessary to break down metals. Fire is a faster version of oxidation vs rust. You can turn your metal red simply with the four elements present, water+earth (salt water, conducts electricity), fire and air (fire is the electrochemical reaction, air is oxygen which causes ...oxidation lol. So simply allowing salt, water, and air to exist with a metal, you will get the red color they talk about. The old alchemists were probably blown away by the process of oxidation. Gold however will NEVER react with oxygen, so oxidation is not a useful tool for doing anything with gold. I don't even think any of this has to do with gold, rather they were describing various colors associated with different stages of oxidation on various metals, such as copper turning green. We also know that most metals can be mixed with mercury to create an amalgam, is this the stone ? They talk about various phases of color changes, but as I stated before, these can all be different stages of the same oxidation effect on certain things.

Seth-Ra
09-30-2017, 07:31 AM
The old alchemists were probably blown away by the process of oxidation. Gold however will NEVER react with oxygen, so oxidation is not a useful tool for doing anything with gold.

Clearly you aren't versed in the things you talk about...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold(III)_oxide

So it's not surprising why you don't see results and thus believe errant ideas.

ArcherSage
09-30-2017, 08:58 AM
As I stated before, Gold does not rust. It is the least reactive to oxygen of all the metals. If it does react, then its not pure gold (mixed with other metals)

theFool
09-30-2017, 09:03 AM
Clearly you aren't versed in the things you talk about...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold(III)_oxide

So it's not surprising why you don't see results and thus believe errant ideas. Excuse me for interrupting the thread flow, but do you happen to know any chemical procedure (publication, book) on how to make the gold oxide or (gold nitrate or gold acetate)? Even if the compounds are being sold by some companies, the relevant recipies seem hard to find in chemical literature (at least for me).

JDP
09-30-2017, 11:08 AM
As I stated before, Gold does not rust. It is the least reactive to oxygen of all the metals. If it does react, then its not pure gold (mixed with other metals)

Gold does not rust on its own, true, but submitted to some chemical procedures it will form oxides. However, these oxides, unlike those of most other metals, are rather unstable and will decompose even by simple heating alone. That's why gold is a "noble" metal. It has a tendency to resist combining with other things, as if it "wants" to be on its own, therefore the analogy with the human "noble" class (who traditionally were not very disposed to "mingle" with the "lower" classes of society.)

JDP
09-30-2017, 11:21 AM
Excuse me for interrupting the thread flow, but do you happen to know any chemical procedure (publication, book) on how to make the gold oxide or (gold nitrate or gold acetate)? Even if the compounds are being sold by some companies, the relevant recipies seem hard to find in chemical literature (at least for me).

You can find information about how to obtain gold oxides in several sources. Thomas Kirke Rose has some info on the subject in his book devoted to the metallurgy of gold, for example:

https://books.google.com/books?id=iJFBAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA29&dq=%22aurous+oxide%22&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwipkNWr48zWAhUFeSYKHZFEDzkQ6AEILDAB#v=on epage&q=%22aurous%20oxide%22&f=false

Warmheart
09-30-2017, 01:58 PM
Not even by a long stretch. Just think of how many new substances have been prepared since those days that those old-timers knew nothing about. Yet, on the other hand, some people from those times, using their own methods, discovered and prepared things that modern chemists know rather little or nothing about. "Progress" is not always linear.
Let's compare making new substances in Chemistry with making new words. We have the word "Milk", if we will add a letter "a", we will get new word "Milka'. We can add letter "b", "c", and get new word "Milkabc". We can make millions of such weird words, and so does the Chemistry - makes millions of weird substances, but which aren't truly new substances.

Also from what I am seeing now, it seems that some metals (and some other substances) are true elements, while the others are just secondary grown-up compounds, brothers and sisters. The modern science operates with over 100 of particles, while there are only 3 profound elements (Air, Water, Earth, they are above true elements) and 1 semi-hidden (Fire). There are no particles, but there is Chaos of the Matter, wherefrom all the true elements come. There is no simple particle in chemistry sense, every particle is "somewhat" infinitely divisible and always contains the particles, which belong to other chemical element or even to something else, only because the Matter in its primary form is the one (1, one whole thing) and physically takes form of very subtle vapor.

Ancients (and by this word I mean civilization which perished, but remnants of whose legacy still lives in various teachings and esoteric doctrines, we are like cave people in comparison to what the ancients could do) had entirely different approach to the physical world, but, as someone else said on this forum, modern science considers ancient approach superstitious. Meanwhile science itself consists of groundless hypotheses, picking up some random theories and changing them on the fly if something doesn't go well along the lines.

SolX
10-02-2017, 03:23 AM
i wish to respond to this thread line. yet i hazard to. if any one prints out my words as a "quote" i will erase everything i ever said and leave here. please take the time not to copy and past part of my thoughts to simply illustrate your own will of life and arguments. do what i have done for a generation online and type in the portion of thoughts you specifically wish to present your arguments upon. never quote me. i will never respond to such harmful manipulations...

if you all agree then i will then oriate here

JDP
10-02-2017, 06:36 AM
i wish to respond to this thread line. yet i hazard to. if any one prints out my words as a "quote" i will erase everything i ever said and leave here. please take the time not to copy and past part of my thoughts to simply illustrate your own will of life and arguments. do what i have done for a generation online and type in the portion of thoughts you specifically wish to present your arguments upon. never quote me. i will never respond to such harmful manipulations...

if you all agree then i will then oriate here

Don't let the door hit you on your promised self-imposed way out, tee-hee!

John Bane
10-02-2017, 11:16 AM
Hello everyone !

I think that the transmutation itself is just another symbol in the symbol but this time its a process. All alchemy was about this because of its spiritual reasons. I think after my studies that things are much easier than they appear. True transmutation begin with materializing your own thoughts. It is not about gold at all. The trick is - we are so grounded in our everyday vision and perspective of the world that its nearly impossible for us to admit that it doesn't exists at all.
We all read smart books and writing smart quotes but we're all blind and sleeping very deep.
I am using the phone but I'm not a phone
I am driving the car, but I'm not a car
Exactly the same thing is with us. We are a spiritual beings having physical experiences.
Transmutation is a mechanic science for making thoughts real and evolve on every instance of live.

As Above So Bellow

JDP
10-02-2017, 11:45 AM
Hello everyone !

I think that the transmutation itself is just another symbol in the symbol but this time its a process. All alchemy was about this because of its spiritual reasons. I think after my studies that things are much easier than they appear. True transmutation begin with materializing your own thoughts. It is not about gold at all. The trick is - we are so grounded in our everyday vision and perspective of the world that its nearly impossible for us to admit that it doesn't exists at all.
We all read smart books and writing smart quotes but we're all blind and sleeping very deep.
I am using the phone but I'm not a phone
I am driving the car, but I'm not a car
Exactly the same thing is with us. We are a spiritual beings having physical experiences.
Transmutation is a mechanic science for making thoughts real and evolve on every instance of live.

As Above So Bellow

https://mourney-sss.wikispaces.com/file/view/BALONEY%20METER.gif/576841775/392x255/BALONEY%20METER.gif

John Bane
10-02-2017, 12:11 PM
hah good one

Awani
10-02-2017, 10:10 PM
hah good one

@JDP: Why not make it the avatar, since posting that gif frequently.

:p

Ghislain
10-03-2017, 12:04 AM
Does this fit in this thread?

The link works on my comp, but I am using an ad blocker, it may bring up ads.

The Future of Work and Death (https://yesmovies.to/movie/the-future-of-work-and-death-22116/1047589-7/watching.html)

Ghislain

Ghislain
10-03-2017, 12:30 AM
@JDP: Why not make it the avatar, since posting that gif frequently.

:p

Here is an avatar size version JDP. Sorry, it somewhat loses resolution at this size :(

http://forum.alchemyforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=995

John, I agree with what you say, I am not sure if there is a science behind it, but I pretty much get whatever I want.
I feel a bit anxious saying that, because in the same way I don't know how it works, I am not sure if telling someone
will stop it working. Fingers crossed ;)

Ghislain

JDP
10-03-2017, 09:35 AM
@JDP: Why not make it the avatar, since posting that gif frequently.

:p

Done! https://static.trueachievements.com/images/smiley/laugh.gif

JDP
10-03-2017, 09:39 AM
Here is an avatar size version JDP. Sorry, it somewhat loses resolution at this size :(

http://forum.alchemyforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=995

http://www.christianmums.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/thumbs-up-smiley%5B1%5D.gif

Kibric
10-03-2017, 03:44 PM
doesn't having it as your avatar mean your full of baloney ?
i mean now when someone reads your posts just above it will say your full of it....
was that the intention ?

Seth-Ra
10-04-2017, 01:27 AM
doesn't having it as your avatar mean your full of baloney ?
i mean now when someone reads your posts just above it will say your full of it....
was that the intention ?

More like he is a pro at sniffing out bullshit. Lol

JDP
10-04-2017, 05:39 AM
More like he is a pro at sniffing out bullshit. Lol

Exactly. The above answers your questions, Kibric.