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Kiorionis
10-13-2017, 01:38 PM
Liber Nigri Solis: An Astrochymical Grimoire of the Black Sun (https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://katab.asia/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/Liber_Nigri_Solis.pdf&ved=0ahUKEwic8ur24O3WAhXFhFQKHWN3ABkQFgglMAA&usg=AOvVaw3K3tFqgi5LIeFWPrfPJX5r)

I thought I'd post this here for those of you interested. I came across it recently, and so far seems to be a good read.

Edit, I've also fixed the link.

Warmheart
10-13-2017, 02:27 PM
This text was written by one Russian guy, and it was used partly as a fuel for 1 satanic organization in one of Russian cities. This text is an eclectic mess of charlatanous mumbo-jumbo, it tried to enforce in their practice some ONA diabolous gods (which themselves are just result of disbalanced psyche and not really existing) and Kabbala spirits (whom they thought to be Demons/Devils, because Sorath's number is 666) in their profanatory work.

I'd keep away from this work as far as possible, it will do nothing good but will put a lot of garbage in one's mind. I knew directly the guys who had connection to this.

And just to show at the total profanatory nature of this work, yes, there is technically Black Sun. But it is called Black, because eyes of mankind can't perceive it, but it is actually white, whiter than anything in this world. When people were honoring/worshiping Sun, they were honoring true real Sun, of which the astronomical Sun is just a physical reflection. But then someone named true Sun to be Black Sun (which was a big disfavor) and satanists took this term for their "Super Black Alchemy" work. Black Sun has nothing to do with the negativity, psychic nigredo, Demons and whatever other diabolicious stuff Voronov and his associates did put in this book.

Kiorionis
10-13-2017, 02:30 PM
Interesting. Thanks for the review Warmheart :)

Andro
10-13-2017, 03:11 PM
Is it only me, or are many of the fonts scrambled/covered?

I think I caught some phrases where the author is apparently bitching about the "christian heterosexual values" being "challenged" by "modern culture", his problem with women's rights, etc...

Kiorionis
10-13-2017, 03:50 PM
Is it only me, or are many of the fonts scrambled/covered?

On my android phone, it comes in fine, but on my laptop it's scrambled. Not sure what's up with that.


I think I caught some phrases where the author is apparently bitching about the "christian heterosexual values" being "challenged" by "modern culture", his problem with women's rights, etc...

I think the scrambled text is messing with you haha. I searched the document for 'heterosexual' on my phone and these are the only parts which included the word.

page 18:

[. . .] I would suggest that the inherent elitism and references to Tradition in Liber Nigri Solis are closer to a more open, inclusive attitude than to the rather limited, exclusive model forwarded by Evola. Purity, strength, courage: these are virtues not held only by some 'elect' (and certainly not only by white, heterosexual males). They are necessary for the Quest, but as they are intrinsically part of the primordial Essence, they are also part of everyone. The individual just has to know that (s)he wants to follow this path, and to resist that part of the will wanting to avoid everything strenuous and demanding.

and again, page 26:


The connection between the Black Sun, Evil, Woman and the Spider is interesting, as it not only illustrates deeply rooted cultural norms about gender relations but also some of the gender-related anxieties expressed during the second part of the 19th century, the time of Hugo (and Flaubert, who also used this metaphor).

Women as being closer to Nature than men, Nature as basically chaotic and symbolically dark, and (white, heterosexual, Christian) Man as the true proponent of Western culture and civilization; these 'facts' about the world have long been deeply rooted in the Western cultural tradition.

To me, it reads more like a history lesson. These passages are also part of the Forward presented by Eva Kingsepp, PhD and not by the author of the main text.

Andro
10-13-2017, 03:58 PM
OK, I see... Something definitely wrong with the PDF when viewed on my desktop. And I don't use "smart" phones, so...

Kiorionis
10-13-2017, 04:07 PM
I was playing with it a bit, and it might be the in-browser Adobe program messing with it. I downloaded and opened it with 'Preview' (on Mac), and the text appears just fine. Then I saved it to desktop and opened it with Adobe, and the text appears just fine.

Andro
10-13-2017, 04:13 PM
I messed with the PDF a bit (on PC), no idea what I did, but now it looks OK.

Thanks for sharing.

Axismundi000
10-14-2017, 07:05 AM
This text was written by one Russian guy, and it was used partly as a fuel for 1 satanic organization in one of Russian cities. This text is an eclectic mess of charlatanous mumbo-jumbo, it tried to enforce in their practice some ONA diabolous gods (which themselves are just result of disbalanced psyche and not really existing) and Kabbala spirits (whom they thought to be Demons/Devils, because Sorath's number is 666) in their profanatory work.

I'd keep away from this work as far as possible, it will do nothing good but will put a lot of garbage in one's mind. I knew directly the guys who had connection to this.

And just to show at the total profanatory nature of this work, yes, there is technically Black Sun. But it is called Black, because eyes of mankind can't perceive it, but it is actually white, whiter than anything in this world. When people were honoring/worshiping Sun, they were honoring true real Sun, of which the astronomical Sun is just a physical reflection. But then someone named true Sun to be Black Sun (which was a big disfavor) and satanists took this term for their "Super Black Alchemy" work. Black Sun has nothing to do with the negativity, psychic nigredo, Demons and whatever other diabolicious stuff Voronov and his associates did put in this book.

ONA I assume stands for order of nine angles which if I remember came out of Leeds in the U.K. in the mid 1980’s. Interesting ideas about Aeons but the rest was for me just a load of ‘my little Satan guff’.The black sun is the second foci point of earths slightly elliptical orbit, at the winter solstice it and the sun are in line with the earth the empty foci behind the sun. At the summer solstice they are in line again the empty foci point directly in front of the sun lined up to the earth. Albertus (Albert Reidel) called this second foci point Vulcan.

Kiorionis
10-14-2017, 08:14 PM
Moreover, it is also the mystery of the origins and 'nature' of the blood itself; like the alchemical dragon returning to consume itself, so is the cycle of nature a self begetting and self-devouring process of endless repetition and trans-mogrification, the Grail Quest being one of transfiguration with it and beyond it - for once again, nature does not encompass the mysteries, but rather, the ultimate mystery is that which itself encompasses nature.

An interesting passage. Regardless of the preconceived prejudices toward the author and his apparent love-relation with Satanism, he certainly presents a clear and concise understanding of his worldview.

Kiorionis
10-14-2017, 08:19 PM
The black sun is the second foci point of earths slightly elliptical orbit, at the winter solstice it and the sun are in line with the earth the empty foci behind the sun. At the summer solstice they are in line again the empty foci point directly in front of the sun lined up to the earth. Albertus (Albert Reidel) called this second foci point Vulcan.

And this is all it is? There is no other information involved in the system?

Axismundi000
10-14-2017, 08:34 PM
And this is all it is? There is no other information involved in the system?

There is a lot I think that is relevant for ‘Vulcan’. For example in Regardies Watchtower ceremony: “The visible sun is the dispenser of light to this earth. Let me therefore form a vortex in this chamber that the invisible sun of the spirit may shine herein from above.”

Alchemically I reckon Nigredo/Saturnian works would be good at Winter Solstice, works of ascension and transformation best at the summer solstice.

Warmheart
10-14-2017, 11:50 PM
Liber Nigri Solis is partly influented by ONA, which is, as Axismundi said, Order of Nine Anlgles. Its main corpus is in book called "Naos" (can be easily found in Internet). I wouldn't recommend to take contents of Naos book seriously, all of it is very false information.

Also, Axismundi, you are right, in those circles Black Sun was also sometimes associated with Winter Solstice, as well as, for some reason, with 1st of August (Lammas), as Night of Anamelech. People from those circles use special rite on that night to condemn all the living on the Earth. It doesn't really work, thankfully, as we are still alive and well :)

zoas23
10-15-2017, 10:17 AM
The ONA has never been homophobic, but quite the opposite. Other than that, they are an oxymoron, though a dangerous one.
They are a product of the 1980's (even if they claim an antiquity that goes back to the 60's, but it's simply a faked antiquity).
They are a new age cult which is a weird cocktail of everything. They had their "peak of their glory" in the mid 90's when the first Hermetic-oriented e-mail lists began to show up here and there (yeah... the forums didn't exist by then, the equivalent of a forum was e-mail lists... in which you had to subscribe and then you began to receive e-mails of all the list members... which was also a burden, because the free e-mail services -mostly everyone used hotmail by then- only gave a very limited space, so you had to delete everything almost once a week to have storage again if you were part of an active e-lists).

Most of these e-lists were VERY eclectic and they were a mix of Wiccans, Satanists, followers of Crowley, people who were into Alchemy, UFOlogists, fortune tellers, people who were into "chaos magic", etc... very messy to say the least. The ONA enthusiasts were always there pissing off everyone else.

Anyway, they were (and probably still are) a new age cult which mixed a lot of unrelated things... and in most cases the "baloney meter" of JDP would explode with their ideas. They were clearly influenced by the ideas of Miguel Serrano (a writer from Chile who mostly invented his own version of "esoteric nazism")... and as a product of the 80's they were always trying to recruit three types of persons:
-Nazi Skinheads (which is another oxymoron, since the Skinhead culture began in the 60's with the influence of jamaican music, specially Ska and Reggae)
-Gays with far right views (probably something very related to their origins, being gay can be controversial nowadays, but in the 80's it was REALLY controversial... and they wanted to be controversial)
-Goths who wanted something even more sinister than what the Goth scene could offer.

As a group they were a mix of Satanism, Nazism, an idiosyncratic view of Paganism with weird Gods that they claimed to be very ancient (but were absolutely invented or didn't have any kind of "tradition"), English nationalism, a weird version of Gnosticism (which didn't make much sense, since Satanism and Gnosticism don't really get along), a very anti-Christian position (which didn't make a lot of sense either with their fascination with Christian Gnosticism), an UFO cult not too different from "Heaven's Gate", defenders of the idea of the "Aryans came from outer space" idea... and weird ideas related to create a global Fourth Reich as the first stage to colonize different galaxies which were allegedly the natural home of the aryans... and an insistence with being controversial.

Besides from not making any sense, I must have read some 1,000 discussions during those years in those eclectic e-lists... but it was especialy because of their stance on gays and lesbians. the gays didn't like the Nazi skinheads at all, the Nazi skinheads didn't like the gays... it was almost as weird as trying to create a group of vegans and bullfighters.

They were also very insistent with the idea that a person who wanted to apply had to commit a murder and provide evidence of such thing (i.e, offer the evidence that showed how they murdered X person)... which was one of the other reasons that made any sane person stay away from them.

Different off-shoot organizations began to show up quite soon after than "internet fame", probably because of different reasons:
-The English Nationalism didn't make a lot of sense for other countries.
-The obligation to murder someone as to become part of the ONA was not really the best recruiting strategy.

Other than that, they were simply another "Discover who you really are by doing exactly what I want you to do" cult (Scientology comes to my mind).

I didn't download the .pdf and I have not read it (I'm not planning to do it actually). I would not waste much time trying to find something of value in the lunacy of the ONA and its offsprings. Probably David Icke makes more sense than them, but I would not waste my time either reading books by him as to find out who is more lunatic.

But, well, the ONA is certainly not homophobic at all, but such thing doesn't make them "nice people"... there's always others parameters to have in mind too.

[Of course that I wrote this stuff as to conceal the obvious truth: that I am a satanist who promotes rituals which involve pissing in cooking pots... and my post probably contains hidden persuasions to make people pee in their cooking pots because that's satanic -sorry, a somehow ironic note for three fools who developed a weird obsession with me].

Finally, I assume they wanted to write "Book of the Black Sun" in Latin, but the grammar is weird (or, actually, wrong).

Kiorionis
10-15-2017, 01:23 PM
Thanks zoas for the information. It's funny how crazy people can be.

pierre
10-15-2017, 02:01 PM
Oh, my god! You are the devil, zoas!

My aunt Anna would be very angry with you. She loved his steel inox pots.

You are a bad influence, definitively!

PS: Ah ... where I live, to do pee in the street its not ilegal! (Sorry for you) ;) You dont have future here...

zoas23
10-15-2017, 11:34 PM
Oh, my god! You are the devil, zoas!

My aunt Anna would be very angry with you. She loved his steel inox pots.

You are a bad influence, definitively!

PS: Ah ... where I live, to do pee in the street its not ilegal! (Sorry for you) ;) You dont have future here...

Hahaha... Since some lunatics have decided that I induce others to pee in cooking pots as some sort of Satanic ritual, I have to confess the truth and explain that I have the super secret plan of inducing everyone to pee in their cooking pots. I will obviously not stop until all the cooking pots contain pee.

If it's not illegal to pee in your area, it may mean that I have influenced very important persons of a satanic elite that rules your area... and they have changed the laws as to make the satanic practices of ritual pissing more mainstream. Just unite the dots, Pierre, and you'll see how it all makes a lot of sense now.

Going back to serious mode (sorry for the jokes, but I have to deal with some idiocy with some humor)... I would not waste a second trying to find something of value in the ONA or its offsprings... it's just a group of crazy people with silly ideas... and an absolutely invented "tradition" which is very much a copy-paste of ideas that Miguel Serrano had (A Chilean writer who was convinced that Hitler escaped to the South Pole and there was a hidden Nazi base there... and even made an expedition to the South Pole trying to find Hitler and the Nazis living there, but he could not find them... some people are crazy, some others are extremely crazy, but going to the South Pole to find Hitler and talk to him is... I don't know.... very high in the ladder of insanity).