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Schmuldvich
01-30-2018, 12:19 AM
We all joined for different reasons....what's yours?

Dragon's Tail
01-30-2018, 03:00 AM
I don't generally talk about alchemy in "real life," and when I do, it's metaphor. This is my place to talk about weird lab things without scaring people, hehe.

Kibric
01-31-2018, 06:27 PM
To find a kindred spirit

Awani
01-31-2018, 06:28 PM
To recruit legions of soldiers for the alchemical overthrow of all governments.

Also as a public diary of my own transformation... when it is in the open, the illusion becomes more real.

:p

Andro
01-31-2018, 06:31 PM
To find a kindred spirit

AF is better than any dating site :p

Kibric
01-31-2018, 06:31 PM
To recruit legions of soldiers for the alchemical overthrow of all governments.
Klingsor ?

Kibric
01-31-2018, 06:33 PM
AF is better than any dating site
from personal experience ?
i am lonely...:(

Andro
01-31-2018, 06:57 PM
from personal experience ?
i am lonely...:(
I meant Alchemical dating site.

Perhaps we should start a classifieds section :)

Are you looking for a partner on this forum? If yes, I think it's awesome.

Also depends on your gender and/or orientation, because apparently it's mostly guys here...

I myself couldn't possibly be in a relationship with a non-alchemist :)

Dragon's Tail
01-31-2018, 07:07 PM
I meant Alchemical dating site.

Perhaps we should start a classifieds section :)

Are you looking for a partner on this forum? If yes, I think it's awesome.

Also depends on your gender and/or orientation, because apparently it's mostly guys here...

I myself couldn't possibly be in a relationship with a non-alchemist :)

Might be a little tricky when the house smells like burnt dirt and glassware randomly explodes when you least expect it :/

Andro
01-31-2018, 07:27 PM
Might be a little tricky when the house smells like burnt dirt and glassware randomly explodes when you least expect it :/

Oh, that's what you think an alchemist's house is like?

Mine used to be like that too, only I had a separate lab shed, back in the day...

However, all of that stuff is completely useless to me today :)

Also, even if you're in the stinking stage, it still won't matter if you partner is an alchemist as well...

Kibric
01-31-2018, 08:20 PM
I myself couldn't possibly be in a relationship with a non-alchemist
maybe a vampire then..?

Dragon's Tail
01-31-2018, 10:29 PM
Oh, that's what you think an alchemist's house is like?

Mine used to be like that too, only I had a separate lab shed, back in the day...

However, all of that stuff is completely useless to me today :)

Also, even if you're in the stinking stage, it still won't matter if you partner is an alchemist as well...

Yeah, I should have been more specific, saying that's what's up if your partner isn't an alchemist. I can't make the house I'm staying at smelly at the moment, but moving out soon, and I'll have a good spot for a well vented lab where I can burn things to my heart's content, lol. Well away from potential mates. An outside lab will be such a beautiful thing.

JDP
01-31-2018, 10:49 PM
maybe a vampire then..?

There is no other possible "relationship" with a bloodsucker other than this:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rErPz_fGqeM

elixirmixer
02-01-2018, 03:54 AM
To find a kindred spirit

Something longterm or just an occasional 'alchemical wedding' ;):o:cool:

Schmuldvich
02-01-2018, 04:12 AM
Primarily, I post to learn (I am still just a Seeker).

Secondarily, I post to sharpen my knowledge of Alchemy and find quotes backing up and in agreement with the current discussion being had and my current understanding of Alchemy.

Engaging in Alchemical discussion with others is helpful and pleasant, since like most of y'all here I have no one to talk to about Alchemy with in person.

We interested in Alchemy are few and far between!

elixirmixer
02-01-2018, 04:23 AM
We are rare indeed. I think that's the point, this is after all, a very sacred science.

I am primarily here to learn, however one of the ways I learn and grow is by sharing what I've learnt. Its also the only place where I get to express parts of myself that I would not otherwise express, both alchemical, and spiritual-psychotic.

Another wonderful place to thank all of you for participating with and/or tolerating me; and the mods and sponsors for their hardwork :D

Warmheart
02-01-2018, 02:49 PM
I post here just to share some of my thoughts and findings.

Though it would be cool if I could find a kindred spirit here, a man from one of my dreams :)

Amon
02-01-2018, 03:25 PM
To share thoughts and ideas, to grow and evolve, to find similarly minded people. Would be great to find a partner through here, but the chances are even smaller than making the stone.

JDP
02-01-2018, 03:42 PM
To share thoughts and ideas, to grow and evolve, to find similarly minded people. Would be great to find a partner through here, but the chances are even smaller than making the stone.

Don't worry, I am sure there's hot "lab rat" babes around somewhere for everyone. Look:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_534oGtSRagA/TFMAJ_jhhfI/AAAAAAAAAHE/GSEhOtvmrrk/s1600/sexy_scientist.jpg

She is saying: "Oh my, what a big test tube you've got!" ;)

Dragon's Tail
02-01-2018, 05:18 PM
I post here just to share some of my thoughts and findings.

Though it would be cool if I could find a kindred spirit here, a man from one of my dreams :)

Why do I get the feeling that someone's inbox just exploded?

Andro
02-01-2018, 05:32 PM
Also see this thread: Relationship with an Alchemist... No thanks?! (http://forum.alchemyforums.com/showthread.php?2210-Relationship-with-an-Alchemist...-No-thanks-!/page6)

Warmheart
02-02-2018, 04:13 PM
Why do I get the feeling that someone's inbox just exploded?
I'm afraid it didn't :/

Dragon's Tail
02-03-2018, 12:04 AM
I'm afraid it didn't :/

I guess that means people here are the respectful type.

Awani
02-03-2018, 01:28 AM
I guess that means people here are the respectful type.

Maybe people are too afraid of becoming exposed by #metoo, so they just decide not to talk to women any more across the board?

:p

Aham
02-03-2018, 03:54 AM
I'm also wondering if introverts are much more likely to be interested in alchemy than extroverts and if high in conscientiousness as well (which helps achieve some level of success in alchemy) are less likely to have or want to spend time in a domain (extroversion) that they are generally unfamiliar/uncomfortable with... Personally, I know quite a few introverts at work that are successful at what they do professionally but would rather get a root canal than go out to meet girls/women :D

Aham
02-03-2018, 04:01 AM
I'm afraid it didn't :/


Warmheart, just some friendly and unsolicited advice... maybe updating your profile on AF would help. Candidly, since the forum is mostly made up of men, it didn't even occur to me that you were of a different gender until DT's post :) Gender is not important in alchemy but if you're interested in a partner maybe providing some clues in the profile would help.

Aham
02-03-2018, 04:13 AM
I post on the forum because we are all headed in the same direction and have similar end goals, plus ~500 minds/members are better than one :)

Florius Frammel
02-03-2018, 06:29 AM
Warmheart, just some friendly and unsolicited advice... maybe updating your profile on AF would help. Candidly, since the forum is mostly made up of men, it didn't even occur to me that you were of a different gender until DT's post :) Gender is not important in alchemy but if you're interested in a partner maybe providing some clues in the profile would help.


https://youtu.be/lBOgH5f36cQ

Andro
02-03-2018, 07:29 AM
https://youtu.be/lBOgH5f36cQ

What (in what Aham said) "ain't necessarily so"?

Also, it's interesting to see the turn this topic is taking :)

(but not extremely surprising...)

Andro
02-03-2018, 07:36 AM
would rather get a root canal than go out to meet girls/women

I don't know what's more "Freudian"... your comparison or my interpretation of it :D

Damn all those Decknamen ! :p !

Florius Frammel
02-03-2018, 08:26 AM
What (in what Aham said) "ain't necessarily so"?

Also, it's interesting to see the turn this topic is taking :)

(but not extremely surprising...)

I meant the gender discussion.

Florius Frammel
02-03-2018, 08:57 AM
Don't worry, I am sure there's hot "lab rat" babes around somewhere for everyone. Look:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_534oGtSRagA/TFMAJ_jhhfI/AAAAAAAAAHE/GSEhOtvmrrk/s1600/sexy_scientist.jpg

She is saying: "Oh my, what a big test tube you've got!" ;)

Seems rather she's into some kind of electricity work. Or this damn bunsen burner always gets so hot she inevitably has to take off her clothes.

But face it. Alchemy is an occupation for (mostly male) nerds. And it has been like that for centuries.

elixirmixer
02-03-2018, 10:28 AM
Maybe Alchemy just needs a bit of a sex appeal facelift. We could do an AF Calendar and sell it to naughty nanny's at the retirement homes ;)

Nothing like a bunch of blokes, handing out, fermenting their own piss on the weekends to get the ladies really keen to join in the fun.

Once you've got them hooked on your badass batch of blackening urine, that's when you hit them with the, "this will take me decades and most likely get me nowhere!" card, and they're ripe for the picking.

Florius Frammel
02-03-2018, 11:29 AM
You just have to do the stone. Besides others thing it is said to attract women as well. Or at least the gold will do the trick.

Andro
02-03-2018, 11:32 AM
There are Alchemists in successful relationships, but compromises most likely have to be made... Again, unless your partner is also an Alchemist.

Maybe because this Art mostly attracts males (or so it seems), perhaps it can be a tad more challenging for hetero males to find partnerships... Especially for those distilling putrefied urine in their apartments :)

The best solution IMO is to have your separate shed/lab-space for Alchemy (most Alchemist that I know do), and your marriage/partnership will likely remain mostly unaffected. Mostly :)

However, some of the most dedicated Alchemists I know ended up divorced and mostly alone, which can open up the option of having a non-committed partner (or fuck-buddy, for those so inclined) who also physically resides elsewhere.

Ghislain
02-03-2018, 11:37 AM
Cleopatra the Alchemist (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleopatra_the_Alchemist) -300
Mary the Jewess (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_the_Jewess) 250
Hypatia of Egypt (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypatia) 350
Caterina Sforza (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caterina_Sforza) 1463
Sophia Brahe (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sophia_Brahe)1556
Isabella Cortese (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isabella_Cortese) 1561
Mary Herbert (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Sidney)1561
Marie de Gournay (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marie_de_Gournay) 1565
Christina of Sweden (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christina,_Queen_of_Sweden) 1626
Marie Meurdrac (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marie_Meurdrac)1610...

I'm sure there must be many additions to this list ;)

Ghislain

Edit: or maybe women already have their own alchemy lab where two become one ;)

Andro
02-03-2018, 11:40 AM
Those 2 posts may be worth reading, or at least entertaining:

Post 1 (http://forum.alchemyforums.com/showthread.php?2210-Relationship-with-an-Alchemist...-No-thanks-!&p=15198#post15198)

Post 2 (http://forum.alchemyforums.com/showthread.php?2210-Relationship-with-an-Alchemist...-No-thanks-!&p=24878#post24878)

Weidenfeld
02-03-2018, 12:04 PM
I'm sure there must be many additions to this list ;)

Edit: or maybe women have their own alchemy lab where two become one ;)
Merelle - the Danish female alchemist (~ 2000)

Dragon's Tail
02-03-2018, 01:58 PM
The promise of all the gold jewelry they could want. Of course, he who succeeds in this wooing, and manages to somehow make the stone, will soon have to take up jewelry smithing. No gold will be sold, it's all just for making bracelets and purse accents, hehe.

Actually, now that I'm saying this, such a relationship would probably not be a good thing in the end. Always better (for me at least) to find someone humble, and they'd have to be pretty darn humble to look past feculant urine.

JDP
02-03-2018, 03:23 PM
Seems rather she's into some kind of electricity work. Or this damn bunsen burner always gets so hot she inevitably has to take off her clothes.

That's because the humongous "test tube" attracting her unmitigated attention is just right past that electrical device ;)


But face it. Alchemy is an occupation for (mostly male) nerds. And it has been like that for centuries.

That's until you start showing the artificial gold & silver. Then everybody seems to "mysteriously" be interested.

Warmheart
02-03-2018, 03:29 PM
Warmheart, just some friendly and unsolicited advice... maybe updating your profile on AF would help. Candidly, since the forum is mostly made up of men, it didn't even occur to me that you were of a different gender until DT's post :) Gender is not important in alchemy but if you're interested in a partner maybe providing some clues in the profile would help.
Just to make it clear, I am male :)

Maybe because this Art mostly attracts males (or so it seems), perhaps it can be a tad more challenging for hetero males to find partnerships... Especially for those distilling putrefied urine in their apartments
I think it has to do something with procreative force, which is stronger in males than females. Also males have it easier because they have more rational mind and better control over their thoughts. For that reason alone I am glad I wasn't born as woman.

I also think that those who work with urine are already lost, but that's just me :)

Florius Frammel
02-03-2018, 03:34 PM
Just to make it clear, I am male :)

That's what I thought too when posting that music video previously.

Florius Frammel
02-03-2018, 03:36 PM
That's because the humongous "test tube" attracting her unmitigated attention is just right past that electrical device ;)



That's until you start showing the artificial gold & silver. Then everybody seems to "mysteriously" be interested.

Does humor belong in alchemy?
In music it certainly does:

https://youtu.be/4zxkeMyXCro

JDP
02-03-2018, 03:47 PM
Does humor belong in alchemy?

Absolutely. And you will need it after the many failures to hit the mark that you (and everyone else involved in this subject) will quite predictably have to go through.


In music it certainly does:
https://youtu.be/4zxkeMyXCro

Curiously, Zappa had an instrumental song entitled...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_eV4OrblJI

Florius Frammel
02-03-2018, 03:48 PM
Absolutely. And you will need it after the many failures to hit the mark that you (and everyone else involved in this subject) will quite predictably have to go through.



Curiously, Zappa had an instrumental song entitled...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_eV4OrblJI

I know, and I knew that instrumental before I knew about Fulcanelli. Zappa himself was into a lot of weird stuff.

Andro
02-03-2018, 03:58 PM
Just to make it clear, I am male :)

Though it would be cool if I could find a kindred spirit here, a man from one of my dreams :)

Please, do tell more :)

Oh, and don't forget to add your voice to THIS POLL (http://forum.alchemyforums.com/showthread.php?3361-The-Kinsey-Scale/) (if you haven't already)...


I also think that those who work with urine are already lost, but that's just me :)

Not necessarily. For magnetic purposes, it can work pretty well.

But it can complicate things, IMO. There are quite a few threads mentioning it, and someone even posted a "recipe" of sorts, how to make a menstruum from urine that can "dissolve" gold.

So another good reason for being on AF, is that you can sometimes find real 'pearls' here...

Aham
02-03-2018, 04:20 PM
Just to make it clear, I am male :)

Oh... in that case you're in luck!!! This forum is full of [insert your choice] :p Freudian slip intended. :D

I also believe in synchronicity and to me the universe does provide whatever help we need to be successful in achieving our highest goal so when the time is right we will find what we're looking for. We just have to have the awareness. BTW, easy for me to say but sometimes hard to practice what I preach....

Maybe there was a time when alchemy was considered 'cool' and exciting and alchemists had no problem attracting all kinds of 'attention' but in today's world if I were to say to anyone that I practice alchemy, people would think I was a nut job... ;) and maybe I am... who know. :D

Kiorionis
02-03-2018, 05:09 PM
Maybe there was a time when alchemy was considered 'cool' and exciting and alchemists had no problem attracting all kinds of 'attention' but in today's world if I were to say to anyone that I practice alchemy, people would think I was a nut job... ;) and maybe I am... who know. :D

Haha I still think alchemy is cool and exciting ;)

Warmheart
02-03-2018, 08:02 PM
Please, do tell more :)

Oh, and don't forget to add your voice to THIS POLL (http://forum.alchemyforums.com/showthread.php?3361-The-Kinsey-Scale/) (if you haven't already)...
I added my voice :) I can tell more in PMs, otherwise it will derail this thread :)

Not necessarily. For magnetic purposes, it can work pretty well.

But it can complicate things, IMO. There are quite a few threads mentioning it, and someone even posted a "recipe" of sorts, how to make a menstruum from urine that can "dissolve" gold.

So another good reason for being on AF, is that you can sometimes find real 'pearls' here...
Indeed. I also can see how someone can extract something good out of urine, but I think that some alternative materials are better choice. Even water, if it is prepared properly. There were good experiments with water on AF too.

elixirmixer
02-03-2018, 10:32 PM
I have been married for 3 years to a very humble, good-looking, goodhearted woman. That shit is so rare I was like, I have to keep this one.

We do have alchemy related arguments that go something like this.

"I didn't marry you so you could pump out babies, I married you so you could help out in the lab and finish my mission to God"

"Well it takes two to tango and I'm not washing your glassware that's your thing"

"That's fine, just take the kids and go to the city for a few days because I can't clean and concentrate while your all here screaming and carrying on"

"Fine I'll take the kids for a walk for the day"

"Great I can get some work done and actually have my house to myself for the first time since I fucking bought the thing"

---------* * * wife goes out * * *-----------

----------* * * wife is back in 1.5hrs * * *-------------

"What are you doing here? I thought I had the house to myself to get the lab in order?"

"Yeah but my sister is coming over now and we are going to the beach"

"Okay, heres money to take your sister to dinner just dont come home before 6:00 I've had enough of all of you"

--------* * * 3:15, wife returnes * * * ------------

"Holy Hell, I pay 100 fucking grand to buy a house and I can't get half a days fucking peace, what happened to dinner"

"(Insert bullshit excuse here)"

"Awesome" ---- (Goes and crys in shower from becoming totally sickened by the prospect that non-alchemical family life will continue basically until the day I finally die)

And that's the way you manage a happy home with a non-alchemist :cool:

zoas23
02-04-2018, 12:16 AM
I like some people here; I've had the luck of meeting some face to face and it was amazing (at least for me).
I also like seeing what other persons thing, specially when they are very different.

I get the idea of the "dating site", but ONLY for friendships or collaborations (i.e, I organized an exhibition years ago and I received much help from different persons here -Seth-Ra, Salazius and others.... or the "Alchemy Forums Anthology" is a project I truly truly truly like).

As for finding a "romantic partner"/couple... No.

Aham
02-04-2018, 12:44 AM
Haha I still think alchemy is cool and exciting ;)

Me too. Too bad the rest of my friends don't or won't think that. hahaha

Aham
02-04-2018, 12:47 AM
I added my voice :) I can tell more in PMs, otherwise it will derail this thread :)

Warmheart, don't worry. Go for it and spill it all on this thread... won't be the first time that a thread has derailed and it won't be the last. Our mods can hook you up with your own thread if you like. hahaha :D

JDP
02-04-2018, 12:59 AM
Me too. Too bad the rest of my friends don't or won't think that. hahaha

The average Joe thinks "anyone trying to make gold/silver = crackpot, dreamer, lunatic" (chemistry's persistent & aggressive propaganda war against transmutation since the 18th century has done its job pretty well.) Until the gold & silver start remaining on the cupel, or precipitating/falling at the bottom of the flask, or pouring out of the crucible, etc. Then the whole thing "mysteriously" turns into "interesting".

Aham
02-04-2018, 02:22 AM
The average Joe thinks "anyone trying to make gold/silver = crackpot, dreamer, lunatic" (chemistry's persistent & aggressive propaganda war against transmutation since the 18th century has done its job pretty well.) Until the gold & silver start remaining on the cupel, or precipitating/falling at the bottom of the flask, or pouring out of the crucible, etc. Then the whole thing "mysteriously" turns into "interesting".

trudat :cool:

Aham
02-05-2018, 10:25 PM
(Goes and crys in shower from becoming totally sickened by the prospect that non-alchemical family life will continue basically until the day I finally die)


It's not so bad. When your kids start going to school, you'll have some time for yourself. When they become teenagers, they will want nothing to do with you so you'll more time and when they are in college...

http://www.newzbreaker.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/tony-fuggedaboutit.jpg

That's not that far away :)


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OFF-topic continued HERE (http://forum.alchemyforums.com/showthread.php?5167-Special-Men-s-Club-(Group-Therapy)&p=55011#post55011).

Kiorionis
02-06-2018, 02:35 AM
I post on AF because I’m legally required to as a moderator. Awani had me sign a 300 page contract...




Lol. Just kidding.

Kiorionis
02-06-2018, 02:35 AM
Me too. Too bad the rest of my friends don't or won't think that. hahaha

What do your friends like?

Aham
02-06-2018, 03:25 AM
What do your friends like?

My friends are into sports and things that go along with sports. Mostly, Football (American), Basketball, Baseball, Ice Hockey, Drinking, Gambling, various 'hobbies', the usual... hahaha

I turned vegetarian about ~1 1/2 year ago and stopped watching TV and am now the official weirdo in the group... :D If I mentioned alchemy, I would be the butt of their jokes from now until eternity... or whenever I die... whichever comes first :)

The upside is that now I have plenty of time to devote to alchemy and fortunately my wife understands my obsession, however, has no interest in what I do so it works out perfectly for both of us :D

How about you K?

Kiorionis
02-06-2018, 03:30 AM
I get that sometimes too. The ego kicks in and makes some guys self-conscious, which for some reason makes them feel less confident so they have to redirect things.

Lol

My friends enjoy professional wrestling (the WWE kind), photography, music, literature, national parks, camping, getting drunk and causing mischief, that sort of thing. But I live in a fairly small town. I connect better with my female friends on spiritual things. But with my male friends it’s actually quite the relief to be in the “mundane” world where I can goof around. :)

elixirmixer
02-06-2018, 03:31 AM
My sport friends ditched me when I told them that their entire world was just the refuse of high level cosmic demons. I'll never forget that day....

Schmuldvich
02-06-2018, 03:41 AM
Sports - the refuse of high level cosmic demons.
Explain.

elixirmixer
02-06-2018, 03:54 AM
Not sports - Malkuth - "The World"

High up in the superior worlds light comes down, and feeds all spheres. And from the refuse of a higher sphere, the next world is created and so on and so forth until your staring at a glass of wine telling everyone its demon piss.

Andro
02-06-2018, 08:52 AM
If (according to some of the stories here) marriage + children is such a drag, then why are you guys going for it in the first place?

Awani
02-06-2018, 07:13 PM
Marriage is just a contract with the government that is an advantage in terms of taxes etc. Means nothing.

Relationship (the one you have with whatever partner you have, marriage or not) is not a drag, and if it is find another parter. IMO.

To have a child is totally awesome. I wish I did it sooner. It's a level of awesomeness I never expected, and I do not understand parents who dislike, hate or are annoyed by their children, or regret having them etc. Every day is a miracle. Yes there is a baby born every minute, so nothing miraculous about that.

But in fact it is a miracle. To feel the beating heart in a small baby is a wonder... and to see the consciousness of the child evolve and "trip" into this world... and to experience the totally pure unconditional love... well, there is nothing like it...

To hold a dead baby corpse in your arms also brings a certain level of perspective to existence. And having held both a breathing baby and a corpse in my arms, I feel that I can speak from a certain level of insight into these matters. At least from my perspective (which is always the only one I speak from).

:p

elixirmixer
02-06-2018, 07:32 PM
Like most things it has its advantages and disadvantages. Long term the good outweighs the bad, you just have to be ready to have kids and sacrifice everything.

I just thought of another reason I post on AF... BECAUSE IT KEEPS ME PARTIALLY SANE!!

Aham
02-07-2018, 02:13 AM
I get that sometimes too. The ego kicks in and makes some guys self-conscious, which for some reason makes them feel less confident so they have to redirect things.

So true! To add, my friends like many have been so indoctrinated into the popular notion of right/wrong that most of what I do is wrong... I had this vet friend of mine tell me once that hormones fed to cattle were harmless to humans. :rolleyes:


I live in a fairly small town.

I grew up in a very small town. Population maybe 3,000 so don't miss that at all cause the town was remote and so we socialized a lot to keep us entertained. How does that work where you're at? Also, after a while, everyone figures out everyone else's business so how do you keep your lab/practice out of sight? I do miss the quiet nights and to be able to see a sky full of stars :)


I connect better with my female friends on spiritual things.

If you have a wife or GF, how does she deal with that Mr. Casanova? :D


But with my male friends it’s actually quite the relief to be in the “mundane” world where I can goof around. :)

Yeah, sometimes it's just fun to break from the 'schedule' but when I'm out with friends my mind is still at home thinking about what I could be doing. Can't win :)

Aham
02-07-2018, 02:15 AM
If (according to some of the stories here) marriage + children is such a drag, then why are you guys going for it in the first place?

Sometimes the universe has a plan for you :D

Aham
02-07-2018, 02:18 AM
I just thought of another reason I post on AF... BECAUSE IT KEEPS ME PARTIALLY SANE!!

Wait a minute... this is your partially sane version? :p

http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/4e/4ea8728887939b35ca82268ddf24022af3a7a95b07c722ea7c f167b78d623e36.jpg

Kiorionis
02-07-2018, 03:04 AM
Also, after a while, everyone figures out everyone else's business so how do you keep your lab/practice out of sight?

Well for one, my lab is quite small ;)
Also, chemistry has been a hobby of mine since I was little, so my friends already think I’m a nerd haha. But I’m usually pretty honest about my lab work when it comes to my friends. Most of the time though it’s in one ear and out the other for them.



If you have a wife or GF, how does she deal with that Mr. Casanova? :D
I’m single, so I don’t have to worry about it.

JDP
02-07-2018, 03:47 AM
Also, after a while, everyone figures out everyone else's business so how do you keep your lab/practice out of sight? I do miss the quiet nights and to be able to see a sky full of stars.

The ideal setting for this kind of investigations is an isolated place, like a farm in the countryside, without any nearby neighbors. That way you can make whatever you want, even all the smoke & noise you want (like air compressors and gas/wood/coal furnaces at full blast, for example), even at late hours of the night and early morning, without bothering anyone or arousing the curiosity of nosy neighbors. In lack of that, an area of town with little or no other residents. Finding a proper place to be able to more comfortably carry out these investigations is an old problem. Chaucer, for example, puts the following words in the mouth of the assistant of the honest but frustrated "multiplier" who is the subject of the introduction to The Canon's Yeoman's Tale, as a response to the host's query about where he and his master dwell:

"That does not matter, good Yeoman," said our Host;
"Since thou knowest of the cunning of thy lord,
Tell how he does, I pray thee heartily,
Since he is so crafty and so sly.
Where do you dwell, if it can be told?"
"In the outskirts of a town," said he,
"Lurking in hiding places and in dead-end alleys,
Where these robbers and these thieves by nature
Hold their private fearful residence,
Like those who dare not show their presence;
So fare we, if I shall say the truth."

True Initiate
02-07-2018, 06:09 AM
The ideal setting for this kind of investigations is an isolated place, like a farm in the countryside, without any nearby neighbors.

I wonder how many people on this forum can afford such a luxury? I think it is a must for every brother in the art to discover a working particular first and only then proceed to the great work of confecting the stone.

black
02-07-2018, 06:49 AM
I wonder how many people on this forum can afford such a luxury? I think it is a must for every brother in the art to discover a working particular first and only then proceed to the great work of confecting the stone.

Hi True Initiate

Could you please share what you would term a working particular ?



I post on this forum in the hope of learning more about Alchemy
and those that work in this Art.

Over the years I have been rewarded with many wonderful insights
from some of our learned members.

I am so blessed to have found this forum.
Thanks' again to Awani and the dedicated moderators.

elixirmixer
02-07-2018, 11:31 AM
Hi True Initiate

Could you please share what you would term a working particular ?



I post on this forum in the hope of learning more about Alchemy
and those that work in this Art.

Over the years I have been rewarded with many wonderful insights
from some of our learned members.

I am so blessed to have found this forum.
Thanks' again to Awani and the dedicated moderators.

Hear, hear!!

A particular, is a form of the stone, which has been created from substances that are already 'specified' to a particular kingdom. Let's say you made it from mercury and gold, this is designated to the mineral realm and is (theoretically) only for transmutation (whilst Seth-Ra's recent post would challenge this idea)

However, there are also "Universal" stones, which are applicable to all kingdoms.

Stone made from plants = Plant stone AKA Vegetable Opus.

Blood/spit/urine = Animal realm..

And so on and so forth....

I agree with True Initiate, even though by the looks of things I am bypassing the particulars (because I'm not interested in transmutation)

I also post on AF in hope that I'll save some listeners a lot of time on this path (however I'm equally likely to send them on a wild goose chase since my experience is low and my views adapting and changing often)

JDP
02-07-2018, 02:50 PM
Could you please share what you would term a working particular?

It could be two things:

1- A chymical process (and therefore NOT carried out by means of the secret solvent, otherwise it would be "alchemical", not "chymical") that produces gold or silver in such an amount that it not only can cover the costs of carrying it out, but actually leaves a profit for the operator. Finding such processes is quite difficult, though, since the chymists who discovered them have not described them as clearly and without "traps" as they have some of the processes that do not produce enough precious metals to leave a profit for the operator, or even cover the costs of carrying out the operation (the reason why some chymists described such processes quite clearly is to demonstrate the reality of transmutation only; they had no desire whatsoever to easily make anyone rich at the expense of all the time & money they had to invest to find the more lucrative chymical processes.)

2- An alchemical process (and therefore by force carried out by means of any of the several forms of the secret solvent) that results in a "tincture" that can transmute many times its own weight of base metals into silver or gold (but in lesser quantity than the Stone, which is considered to be the most powerful of all "tinctures".)

Aham
02-08-2018, 03:44 AM
The ideal setting for this kind of investigations is an isolated place, like a farm in the countryside, without any nearby neighbors. That way you can make whatever you want, even all the smoke & noise you want (like air compressors and gas/wood/coal furnaces at full blast, for example), even at late hours of the night and early morning, without bothering anyone or arousing the curiosity of nosy neighbors. In lack of that, an area of town with little or no other residents. Finding a proper place to be able to more comfortably carry out these investigations is an old problem.

I would agree wholeheartedly. I'd also want to be living in the mountains, next to a river/stream and also in the midst of a large national forest. Just sayin... This is the way to go if there are options available to an individual. I've often thought, why not sell everything, buy a small farm with a big barn/shed and make/sell essential oils and use the money to continue to live and follow the alchemical quest. I've realized I don't need a lot to live except for WiFi :D

A very generous soul from this forum suggested just such a thing to me not too long ago and I believe that person might be doing something similar (hunch). I could probably ask this person for help on how to get started but I think subconsciously I'm a chicken and don't want to get the details because if I knew how to do what this person is doing, then I would have no more excuses left... :o

elixirmixer
02-08-2018, 04:30 AM
I would agree wholeheartedly. I'd also want to be living in the mountains, next to a river/stream and also in the midst of a large national forest. Just sayin... This is the way to go if there are options available to an individual. I've often thought, why not sell everything, buy a small farm with a big barn/shed and make/sell essential oils and use the money to continue to live and follow the alchemical quest. I've realized I don't need a lot to live except for WiFi :D

A very generous soul from this forum suggested just such a thing to me not too long ago and I believe that person might be doing something similar (hunch). I could probably ask this person for help on how to get started but I think subconsciously I'm a chicken and don't want to get the details because if I knew how to do what this person is doing, then I would have no more excuses left... :o

All I do every day of my life is try and work out how to sell everything and buy a farm and just chill on my property doing alchemy, growing my own food, distilling my own water, and making my own power. That's the dream

Dragon's Tail
02-08-2018, 04:52 AM
All I do every day of my life is try and work out how to sell everything and buy a farm and just chill on my property doing alchemy, growing my own food, distilling my own water, and making my own power. That's the dream

Seems to be a running theme. I have my land, next step is the power and food. I have enough out there already to get water :) I need the power because I need wifi, and my little hovel needs some serious upgrades on the temperature control front, lol.

elixirmixer
02-08-2018, 05:15 AM
Free power is there for the taking mate. It just takes the same dedicated research as Alchemy does. (Except that free power is much easier than trying to make the stone)