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Luxus
02-17-2018, 05:08 PM
I want to share with you an experience I had and am having which was initiated by meditation. I always believed meditation was a very important thing to do but laziness prevented me from starting on that journey. I would occasional meditate but it was once in a blue moon occurrence. Another major issue which prevented me from doing this was back pain. I am a tall individual and sitting in meditation posture triggers backache which gradually intensifies. Doing reclined meditation with eyes closed sends me to sleep.

Anyway last year after a birthday I decided I was going to start meditating every week by hook or by crook, I was determined and could not put this off any longer. At dawn I wake (which is hard because I am not a morning person) and meditate for an hour or so. After doing this daily for only two weeks I had my first experience with these Etheric spiders. After meditating for an hour I went back to sleep and when I woke I detected out of the corner of my eye movement at the corner of the ceiling so I turned to look. I could not believe what I was seeing. Walking slowly along the coving was a spider the size of a crab. I could not fucking believe my eyes and I was getting ready to fly out of that bed if that thing made any movement towards me but then as I was watching it walking it slowly faded from my vision. That was the first time I ever seen one of these things and I directly connect it with starting to meditate because in my entire life up to that point I had never seen one of these things. I have up to date now seen these things perhaps five times but never as big as the first one. I seen one directly above my bed on the ceiling approximately the size of a tarantula. At other times I have woke to see one scurry across my pillow.
On the first occasion after seeing that large fucker I decided I was going to smoke the room out with incense whilst pointing a dagger and casting the things out...you can imagine the scene right :D

But I am convinced now that not only do these etheric bugs exist around us but I think they also cause health problems for some of us. I heard of this guy who decided to take Ayahuasca and during the vision he became aware of a spider like creature living on his chest over his heart. It had hooks on the ends of its legs which were dug into his heart and was feeding off his heart. Whilst in the jungle he started of try to heave up this creature and all the creatures of the forest cheered him on. It was stuck but with one last attempt he put everything into it and it came out his mouth. His friend who went with him remembered hearing him heaving during the ceremony. He laughed as he recalled that it sounded like his friend was heaving up from the pit of his soul.

The less spiritual you are the more likely it is that you are actually infected with one or more of these critters but I think most of us have one or two of these things feeding off us causing us health issues. The worst are sexually promiscuous people they are literally crawling with these things, so yeah stay away from hookers !

BTW I think those American-Indian dream catchers were developed to snare these things!

Kiorionis
02-17-2018, 06:21 PM
Sounds like quite the experience :)

pierre
02-17-2018, 07:51 PM
Hi, Luxus...

The same thing that your you describe, was happening to my, a few years ago.
But while I was sleeping. I was waking up in the middle of the night, because I saw spiders to fall down from the ceiling of my room, on my chest.
Sometimes it saw them to get under the sheets of my bed.
The experience was so real, that I was looking under the sheets, and my clothes, to find them.

Now, that dream has gone... i guess.

Salazius
02-18-2018, 11:23 AM
Get a daily mystic.

Prey, invoke the Power of the Virgin Mary (Immaculate Alkhaest in a sense) upon them & yourself, and then the Heart of Christ (light of love), and finally, his Sacred Blood, this is the basic alchemical blessing of the demons around you. You can bless this way everything single things, even your 'future'.

It will clear all the nasty things around. They can't stand this light.

It is basic theurgy but it works well and you need nothing more.

Sometimes you'll find that "it is not coming", then bless the sky above and the earth below prior to any prayers, it will unlock the shells they sometimes put around in order to block you from your Spiritual Source of Power.

If you are not Christian, then maybe Kwan Yin instead of Marry, or Krishna, or whatever for the Blood and Love part. All these are just cultural references of universal archetypes.

Luxus
02-18-2018, 12:35 PM
Hi, Luxus...

The same thing that your you describe, was happening to my, a few years ago.
But while I was sleeping. I was waking up in the middle of the night, because I saw spiders to fall down from the ceiling of my room, on my chest.
Sometimes it saw them to get under the sheets of my bed.
The experience was so real, that I was looking under the sheets, and my clothes, to find them.

Now, that dream has gone... i guess.

I am awake when I see them so it is not a dream.

Luxus
02-18-2018, 12:41 PM
Get a daily mystic.

Prey, invoke the Power of the Virgin Mary (Immaculate Alkhaest in a sense) upon them & yourself, and then the Heart of Christ (light of love), and finally, his Sacred Blood, this is the basic alchemical blessing of the demons around you. You can bless this way everything single things, even your 'future'.

It will clear all the nasty things around. They can't stand this light.

It is basic theurgy but it works well and you need nothing more.

Sometimes you'll find that "it is not coming", then bless the sky above and the earth below prior to any prayers, it will unlock the shells they sometimes put around in order to block you from your Spiritual Source of Power.

If you are not Christian, then maybe Kwan Yin instead of Marry, or Krishna, or whatever for the Blood and Love part. All these are just cultural references of universal archetypes.

Thanks for that. I am not all that scared of the smaller ones but the first one the size of a crab is a different story :D

I happened to purchase a few UV laser pointers on Ebay a while back. I am actually looking forward to seeing the next one because I will get to see how it likes a UV laser. I suspect it will kill it outright but will have to wait to see.

Salazius
02-18-2018, 02:33 PM
You'll get more benefits from prayer than a uv laser, and you can pray everywhere, and it will desinfect things you'll never imagine being there. Just my 2cts.

Kiorionis
02-18-2018, 02:44 PM
Great advice Salazius :)



Sometimes you'll find that "it is not coming", then bless the sky above and the earth below prior to any prayers, it will unlock the shells they sometimes put around in order to block you from your Spiritual Source of Power.

I have also had success in praying to the Great Mystery Within. We are all adaptations of universal Light, so if you can find your center, it is your connection to the Great Mystery, Christ, Buddha, etc. it is like speaking from the hearth, through the heart. Praying this way, you can work from the inside out. Most of the time I find that the sudden fear of being followed or attacked will move concentration away from ourselves, and we become fixated on the thing, which separates our Unity

But, I have only one such success with this method as far as etheric entities go, as I haven’t had many encounters lately.

Dragon's Tail
02-18-2018, 03:19 PM
Sprites will be sprites, I'm surprised to see that you guys are seeing these with shapes. Is the room dark? You eyes produce different chemicals in the dark and your brain interprets signals differently than when there is light. The only "astral bugs" that I've really seen were air spirits and I couldn't make out a shape. They looked like glowing bubbles and only appeared when I was in serious meditative states.

But the lights were on, so...

Anyway. Aside from my own personal fears, which tend to creep in when you see something "different" for the first time, I've not known any of these critters to be malignant in nature. I've never really seen them hurt anything. Not putting it past them, but the inhabitants of the astral realm, aside from not having corpeal bodies, aren't really that different I think from those of us in the physical realm. I don't think they are inherently "good" or "evil," just creatures. Some smarter than others. Some of those "air spirits," which I just called fairies for lack of a better term, got blamed for pushing windows open in a house I did a blessing on. I spotted them during the blessing, and mentioned them when the homeowner told me about stuff moving. One occasion, the owner was hot while sleeping and woke up to a freezing room with the window wide open. Maybe they were trying to be helpful?

Either way, interesting experience, thanks for sharing. The ones you are seeing might just be "astral pests" if they are really being annoying. They don't like metals like iron and steel, from what I've gathered, but that's more suspicion at this point as I haven't done too much actual testing to verify this. Been a while since I've seen them, I don't meditate as much as I used to, and now days, it's mostly for AP attempts.

Luxus
02-18-2018, 03:56 PM
You'll get more benefits from prayer than a uv laser, and you can pray everywhere, and it will desinfect things you'll never imagine being there. Just my 2cts.

I dont doubt it for a second. These critters are obviously fairly low down and I imagine beings of a more exalted nature would make short work of them if successfully summoned. Low down as they may be I suspect these things can cause serious health problems, I suspect they are as venomous to our energetic body as physical arachnids can be to our physical bodies.

Luxus
02-18-2018, 04:02 PM
Sprites will be sprites, I'm surprised to see that you guys are seeing these with shapes. Is the room dark?

I have only seen them during waking in the morning when the Sun has somewhat illuminated the room through the blinds.

Luxus
02-18-2018, 04:16 PM
As this is an Alchemy forum I thought it might be worth mentioning that Chinese Alchemists believed evil spirits would attempt to sabotage the success of their work. As a result they would often hang blessed swords around the furnace to repel malevolent spirits. The belief is that the stone emits a spiritual emanation which attracts spirits good and bad in the same way the light of a candle flame attracts moths.

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Salazius
02-19-2018, 07:55 AM
Low down as they may be I suspect these things can cause serious health problems, I suspect they are as venomous to our energetic body as physical arachnids can be to our physical bodies.

It's true, I've verified this, and verifying this everyday on my heath. One day a Demon, name beginning by B and controling insects (traditionnaly), put kgs of astral shells & eggs of insects in my astral body.
As I suspected something wrong with me, I prayed and made the Triyambakham mantra to Shiva.

In the astral realm that night, I litterally shitted kilos of white eggs and white insects. They were designed to kill me of cancer at the age of 42. That's what I have been tell.

Salazius
02-19-2018, 08:07 AM
As this is an Alchemy forum I thought it might be worth mentioning that Chinese Alchemists believed evil spirits would attempt to sabotage the success of their work. As a result they would often hang blessed swords around the furnace to repel malevolent spirits. The belief is that the stone emits a spiritual emanation which attracts spirits good and bad in the same way the light of a candle flame attracts moths.


That's true. (They also sabotage my computer and internet box, and smartphones, and some of them sometimes plug on the phone, and after that the plugg device can't work until I bless it... go figure ! - that's why now I have sacred images and sigils (all blessed of course, at night on my technological things))

You have to at least a sacred image in you lab and next your flasks etc. Images of alchemy worth absolutely nothing, they are not sacred, so Annulus Platonis and Maiers unfortunately are not usefull for that. And swords or daggers are good things. Blessed with Geburah/Mars it is perfect. Also, having a perpetual oil lamp, or candle of beeswax can help tremendously, at the condition that it canno't fall and burn the place... but it is a solution. Incense are too volatile and work as dispellers only. I'd recommend over your house an orgonite device (a BIG one, because when you dabble with alchemy some big beasts can come to visit, and also some aliens - goog (rarely), neutral (creepy one, nothing worse than a neutral scientist taking you for his lab frog at night), and bad one).

I used to make, when I have room for it, a sacred magical circle, magick style. If you can't then use powdered antimony + lead + sulfur + sea salt. Or just sea salt if you can't do otherwise. Also sacred inscriptions and sigils on the athanor will help.

They can't stand happiness of the Sacred Familly, whatever the tradition : Joseph Jesus and Mary, or Parvati, Shiva, and Ganesh... All the Blessed Principles together and making a Stone.

Also, I have black mirror and orgonites of my confection I called "Blackhole", that makes a crusher and absorber of bad entities and energies, putting them back to earth.

But first and foremost, blessing you matters will help very much. Some caput are just pure absorbers of negativity and when they are yours... the link is direct.

Luxus
02-19-2018, 12:57 PM
Salazius ,

It is true what you say about incense/smudge such as white sage or Juniper. The burning of incense will only temporarily clear the room but once the effect wears off those things can come back. Eventually you need to either install something that will drive them away with the threat of destruction or you need a spirit trap to snare them and then dispose of them.

How do you know about this demon who infected you or was sent to infect you with these insects, do you practice magik, did you accidentally summon it etc?

Salazius
02-19-2018, 04:05 PM
How do you know about this demon who infected you or was sent to infect you with these insects, do you practice magik, did you accidentally summon it etc?

How do I know, well, my guides told me, and the attack is his signature.
I practice magick since 2000.

I'm wondering how people can accidentaly summon a demon. No I didn't summoned him, but when you practice seriously they come to know you, because you bother them in the business. Like maffia.

nav2010
02-19-2018, 05:23 PM
How do I know, well, my guides told me, and the attack is his signature.
I practice magick since 2000.

I'm wondering how people can accidentaly summon a demon. No I didn't summoned him, but when you practice seriously they come to know you, because you bother them in the business. Like maffia.

The most common way to summon a demon is by trying to perform Telekinesis, stop doing it.

Kiorionis
02-19-2018, 07:07 PM
Through telekinesis? How do?

pierre
02-19-2018, 07:08 PM
I am awake when I see them so it is not a dream.

Yes, Luxus, I understand that you see them awake.
I just was thinking that for my, to see that spiders, it work only from my astral body, and not with my physical eyes.
I dont know...

Luxus
02-19-2018, 09:48 PM
Looks like Taoist Alchemists have known about these etheric bugs for a very long time!


The cult of Immortality in Daoism is persistent and the diverse means for attaining such an objective would naturally coincide with eliminating the worms as chief adversaries in the adept’s quest.
These parasites, which sometimes took the form of actual worms in the body, also existed on a more subtle dimension and were of great concern to Daoist aspirants (though it may well be presumptuous to refer to them in past tense). Gradually there was conceived as being an equally grand heavenly hierarchy—as above, so below—that was to torment the ethereal souls in a multidimensional fashion. There are many variations and numbers, but the majority of Daoist schools recognize three major “worms” (san-ch’ung) or “corpse demons” (san-shih) that feed on the cereals, or “The Five Grains,” ingested by their human host.
The Japanese medical texts are full of similar demon-worms, some requiring magical or potent treatment https://98c086c6-a-62cb3a1a-s-sites.googlegroups.com/site/delawareteasociety/yoked-to-earth-a-treatise-on-corpse-demons-and-bigu/9worms.jpg?attachauth=ANoY7cqxEjpvyamhrS61VJVMc0CC V5xc4FS-kFs7XmjDgib7Dy1vCem8CLya7sKY9_yNsE2yMXexVyN-zOELMsHKpFFbT5eQT-jVUwpu7pKpQV0PiDeJOeEtnJQl-2p-Bs-TYhXb0aPdEA_ThC2VBpK3hijIMQj2X7EPSLHSta2OTVrw6Bqyv NNLA9kCKDd0ppMrUgWBZ3QK9G1mfUkqBEIuMAaoXwLNn874qW6 FbgndR6s64VC2NH1m2WTQLQ7cj2yV7OnPq3yJCYsfHH5xQRUqA py2qBCE5cy5rnG1bMYQdVs5vtAHkzI%3D&attredirects=0


1. The "ambush worm" (fuchong) saps people's strength by feeding off their essence and blood.


2. The "coiling worm" (huichong) infests the body in pairs of male and female that live above and below the heart, consuming the host's blood.


3. The "inch-long white worm" (cun baichong) chews into the stomach, weakening the inner organs and damaging the digestive track


4. The "flesh worm" (rouchong) causes itching and weakens the sinews and back.


5. The "lung worm" (feichong) causes coughing, phlegm buildup, and difficulty in breathing.


6. The "stomach worm" (weichong) consumes food from its host's stomach, causing hunger.


7. The "obstructing worm" (gechong) dulls the senses induces drowsiness and causes nightmares.


8. The "red worm" (chichong) causes stagnation of the blood and pneuma, heaviness in the waist, and ringing in the ear.


9. The "wriggling worm" (qiaochong) causes itching sores on the skin and tooth decay.
The Three Worms, as mentioned, feed off the 5 Grains (rice, millet, wheat, oats, and beans) and bloody foods while yoking the body “firmly to the earthly realm and to prevent any refinement of internal energies or attainment of immortality (Arthur 2006).” A primary method of eliminating the Three Corpses was to simply cut off their chief source of nourishment, namely the 5 Grains.


"As the Dayou zhang (Verse of Great Existence) says:

The five grains are chisels cutting life away,

Making the five organs stink and shorten our spans.

Once entered into our stomach,

There's no more chance to live quite long.

To strive for complete avoidance of all death

Keep your intestines free of excrement!"
A supernatural affliction might be cured with supernatural methods as well which brings up the subject of talismanic water, which were spells that were written on paper, probably in magical cinnabar ink, that were burned. The ashes were added to water and drinking it would kill the worms.https://98c086c6-a-62cb3a1a-s-sites.googlegroups.com/site/delawareteasociety/yoked-to-earth-a-treatise-on-corpse-demons-and-bigu/harikikigaki_s_2.jpg?attachauth=ANoY7corlcPx2hrnVJ GCJLa2cw5UxlU-k9jUiVMYCEEbN4A7cOkMg7ds_FblyM2572BuyMUmrl5PA5guS2 xtoQ9pwhJAMfyv-04oyu9R2GgPWFJRuICrmRaqox1VeHPM2SAQ3QU8G4pKttGmjnp kSuO5R6B2awql4Qq-zXxxk6FIsssJ_kJt-5S7oW9F5qgSS6Dp3jfLR20d-nJK4PSmlumQw-1RZaR0xIzQe0uT8eN-p6_sD4WpmojHB1r-gjTN1VEpGWdNFICe-oWPUZqH3IA2YhKvQ86EOIMP3FKBuQWUpph_wFB92Wg%3D&attredirects=0

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pierre
02-20-2018, 12:17 AM
http://www.psychic-experiences.com/real-psychic-story.php?story=5573

Probably already you have read this info...

Luxus
02-20-2018, 11:32 AM
http://www.psychic-experiences.com/real-psychic-story.php?story=5573

Probably already you have read this info...

Never seen that but thanks. I am trying to put a link to images of various etheric bugs from ancient Taoist text. Notice one of the bugs in the text looks like spiders so we can say people have been seeing and dealing with these "demon worms" since ancient times!

https://sensualanimist.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/9worms.jpg

Salazius
02-20-2018, 04:29 PM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/film/JurassicWorld/realjurassic4-xlarge.jpg

These are nasty. These are the Intelligent Hunters.

Kiorionis
02-20-2018, 04:57 PM
Yes, donít let them fool you in any way:

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/f6/20/a4/f620a45a166c827be278382f53b6c378.jpg

Luxus
02-20-2018, 06:17 PM
meow !!!