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Florius Frammel
01-18-2019, 11:00 PM
..der Ewigkeit u. Zeit in deutlichen Sinnbildern

In english: Seven holy basic pillars of eternity and time in explicit meaningful images.

This book is on the list of requested translations:

http://forum.alchemyforums.com/showthread.php?4269-Translation-Suggestions&p=37033#post37033

and some (including the 19th century historian Schmieder) claim it was written by I.C.H. (Ieyen Christlicher Hermetiker), but I'm not so sure if Adamah Booz (Dr. Adam Michael Birkholz) really was ICH or simply the publisher of all these treatieses. Nevertheless all the books published by Booz' G.U.R.C. surroundings are somehow interesting imo. In this book there are four letters attached at the end. I don't want to translate the whole book, but maybe you want to read the letters. Maybe it's valuable to someone.

Here is the first one.


Four strange letters by an adept.

The ignorant disapproves to what he doesn't understand.
The scholar mocks about these big secrets.
Both have their free wills: but none of them is right[smart].

First letter

I heard that you helped my friend in an important affair and defended him with herculian braveness. Further, that you as a son of the art have walked into the labyrinth of chemistry and want to quench your thirst from this inexhaustible sea. Therefore I, to pay back your protection of my friend, tend to give you the Ariadnes' thread to lead you through this labyrinth and present you the bowl, with which you can draw from this sea (not it's rivers).

Some, like Bernhardus says, approach the sanctuary with unwashed hands and undertake chemical works without knowing their matter, namely a red earth from the garden of eden, in and out of which the perfect Adam has been created. But this matter, as soon as it had been stained by original sin, became black. Therefore the artist has to clean it and bring it back again to its first redness. As a first sign of friendship I recommend you to look through Philaletha's open entrance to the king's closed palace and thereafter I will lead you to those things that which the highest one gave me to see with eyes and grab with hands. Because what will those achieve who, being blind night owls, devastate coals and don't even know the true matter, for even Pontanus erred two hundred times in the right true matter. Others, instead of getting the stone of the wise, throw their treasures like stones out of the window. Instead of the gold they get smoke and famine and instead of health death. Though Sendivogius says that in the air there is that spirit, which after it's thickening and coagulation is worth more than all the treasures in the world. Even clearer the emerald tablet says: the sun is its father, the moon its mother, the winds have carried it in their belly, the earth is its nurse. If hence the winds have carried this archaeus in their belly, this archaeus therefore has not brought forth gold mines and mountains in the air, but this spirit that is created by the winds, is brought and infused into the center [midpoint] of the earth. And because the earth is its nurse, it has nurtured this newborn fruit with golden natural sulphurs as well as with its milk and raised it until a marriageable age. Subsequently this hermaphrodite procreated metallic fruits too. And that's how nature acts. Let us therefore imitate nature and don't harm her. Nature begins the work and the art finishes it. Man lives from the impure milk of the mother at the beginning, afterwards from the milk. Like that this archaeus too is saturated with impure sulphurs at the beginning until it passes over from the volatile into the fixed. It will be created all summer long until winter is coming. Because if this egg would not be sealed by winter to hold back the valuable steam, this fruit would perish in its first origin. Therefore the work needs to be imbibed and soaked with the philosophical milk after the impure sulphurs. The egg must not have the slightest opening if a new fruit should emerge from it.
Parsimony binds the common chemists and laboratory technicians literally on the mind. Sometimes they want to solute the common gold, sometimes fix the common mercury, but in these there is no living spirit. Because as soon as the metals are taken out of the mines and tortured through ovens and melting fires, they will be left by the acting spirit itself and our metals become dead bodies. The metals have lost their lives and the soul, if they have been robbed of this acting spirit. Our mercury is warm and moist and therefore unifies both sun and moon. It is gold-like and silver-like through and through, simple in its threefoldness and threefold in its oneness. It is the root-moisture and soulful seed of metals. And even if it is locked inside the strongest prison by nature, it can be freed and redeemed out of it again with diligent and laborious art anyway. For the art cleans through a damping fire the paths that lead to the chamber and the prison. And so what nature could not do itself, it can do with the help of the art, whilst our mercury tears apart the bonding that bound it [the mercury]. And in this mercury, gold and silver are united philosophically in a way that it is the true seed of common gold and silver. But no seed is useful for anything if it doesn't putrefy. For the putrefaction must precede the procreation. But the putrefaction consists of blackness. So if we don't blacken before we whiten, we won't bring forth anything but many unripe births and all work will be in vain. Those who work differently, flutter like butterflies around the light. Hermes doesn't use no glowing coals. Everyone has this matter in front of his eyes. It is the slightest one, so that even the poor can get it. In itself there is sun and moon in a philosophical way, but valuably it contains common gold and silver. Be that enough about the matter. Next time more about the philosophical water.
Nuremberg, the 17th January 1710. Antonius a Terra.

Seraphim
01-19-2019, 12:15 AM
Very nice, thanks for sharing that. :)

theFool
01-19-2019, 07:53 AM
Because as soon as the metals are taken out of the mines and tortured through ovens and melting fires, they will be left by the acting spirit itself and our metals become dead bodies. If he is right, does this mean that if you condense the fumes produced from smelting an ore you will have the mercury :confused: Just an idea.

Florius Frammel
01-19-2019, 08:05 AM
If he is right, does this mean that if you condense the fumes produced from smelting an ore you will have the mercury :confused: Just an idea.

Hi fool!
I heard about that idea too.
This concept of metals and minerals being dead once taken out of the mines and/or subsequently treated in melting fires is recurring quite often in certain alchemical treatieses I have been reading so far.

But in that letters it seems to be merely a side quest.

Edit: Please be aware that what you suggest is a high risk maneuver, if performered with "common" devices and techniques. I can't recommend it at all.

Andro
01-19-2019, 09:16 AM
does this mean that if you condense the fumes produced from smelting an ore you will have the mercury :confused:
Wouldn't this resemble "puffery", according to same text?


Hermes doesn't use no glowing coals.

zoas23
01-19-2019, 11:07 AM
I heard about that idea too.
This concept of metals and minerals being dead once taken out of the mines and/or subsequently treated in melting fires is recurring quite often in certain alchemical treatieses I have been reading so far..

I would say "or", not "and". They are two different ideas.

A lot of texts explain the other side of the coin. I.e, how Nature (Nature, not Alchemy) gives birth to the metals and how it feeds them... Taking them out of the mines or Earth is identical to finishing this process.

The second idea simply means that a vulgar fire is not the alchemical fire.

Andro
01-19-2019, 11:22 AM
A lot of texts explain the other side of the coin. I.e, how Nature (Nature, not Alchemy) gives birth to the metals and how it feeds them.I think the jury is still out on whether Metallic Genesis can naturally occur outside of a star. Maybe there's a reason (actually more than one) it's called "The Operation of the Sun"?

Andro
01-19-2019, 11:25 AM
This concept of metals and minerals being dead once taken out of the mines
To understand this alchemical concept, I think we first need to understand the definition of "dead" in general as well as in the context of metals.

Florius Frammel
01-19-2019, 11:39 AM
To understand this alchemical concept, I think we first need to understand the definition of "dead" in general as well as in the context of metals.

Traditionally some"thing" is considered dead when it has been left by its spirit and/or soul. Still in some movies today this is symbolized when people (often visible) blow out their last breaths. The other letters deal with exactly that topic and may lead to further insight.

theFool
01-19-2019, 11:44 AM
Wouldn't this resemble "puffery", according to same text? Yes, probably the way he describes is different than "smelting metals and capturing the fumes".

Florius Frammel
01-19-2019, 10:17 PM
Second letter

In the first letter I have written to you something about the first matter. If you would not have understood my words, I could have gone on straightway and would not dunk my feather into ink, but into the philosophical water. But it seems to be necessary, that I send you another letter about the first matter, sir. There is a matter that is indeed everywhere, though particular, from which it is possible to prepare the universal tincture (Tinctura universalissima). Both matters are possible to get everywhere, but more in an area than in another and more at a time than another. You should indeed get letters regularly from me, dear sir. But in two years I hope to be in Vienna, because I (hoping that there will be piece) want to travel to Hungary and visit that famous fatherland, in which the archeaus is said to be the strongest, because of the amount of minerals, quality of the wine, fertility of the soil. The particular matter is specified, but the the universal matter is not specified, but is a kind without a kind of its own, that means it is generic or universal. With one word: both matters behave like sunrays. Because NB. as long as these are in the air, they are universal and not specified. But when these rays fall into the mother (matrix) or ferment of the vine, they let the vine grow, and these rays are particularized or specified thereafter. If they fall into the majoram, they become majoram and let majoram grow, without further animating another plant. If those rays fall into a goldmine, they are gold-like, but specified. If they fall into the Saturnus, they are antimony-like.
In the air those rays are universal and a child of the sun. In the air there is, after Sendivogius, the spirit that rules in the air, which after its coagulation is more valuable than all treasures of the world. The fruit of the moon is universal as well. From these both there arises the mercury of the wise[philosophical mercury]. I know how to draw both from the air in a threefold way. This is the double animated mercury. A philosopher doesn't need to know the methods of these preparations of magnets to attract this double spirit. It is already enough when a philosopher knows that natural magnet, that magnetic principle, that adamic earth from garden eden, that is not gold-, not silver-like, not antimony-like, not vegetable, not specified, but universal. Then a philosopher will know how to draw out this double common mercury out of this common matter very easily, unspecified and universal. From the perspective of the astrological chemistry, this process will be clear because of the following: God created the whole world out of the chaos within six days in a commonly acting manner. Within six days the planets and on the seventh day he rested. Nevertheless you actually can't ascribe to god neither work nor rest. How is this to understand then? We need to explain the divine universal work with the work of the chemical particularists. Their chaos is antimony, from which they prepare a regulus, that has a certain metal seed and is not universal, but specified. There are feces produced automatically. But giving the name "feces" is a pity. The particularists and the philosophers in their particular or universal work, should not call these feces feces but flowers, or quintessence of the regulus. Just like that what is swimming on top of the milk is called flower of the milk (flos lactis). The particularists have learned these kinds of expressions from the pharmacists, which are calling the concentrated and crystallized substance of the wine "yeast of wine". What an indecorous designation! I wonder that they don't call the rock candy "yeast of sugar" too. If therefore god has created the six planets in six days, he rested at the seventh because the feces (to use such an indecorous designation) emerged from themselves [automatically]. Or the seventh planet that contains the unspecified universal seed. Out of this planet the philosopher will allure and get a double mercurial spirit. That one characteristic sign of this magnetic principle behavior or seventh planet is this: that after its dissolution in the most common spirit Azoth, it visibly displays the six days of genesis in the first solution. Another characteristic sign is, that the stone that is prepared this universal way, when a few grans from it are tossed on one of the seven metal's melted regulus, it lets appear all the stars of all the sky in the upper part of the crucibles, whose appearance vanishes again after midnight. There are other countless signs of the true universal matter too. Those who don't use this seventh planet, begin their work specified or particular. But those, who use this magnetic principle imitate the example of the almighty creator of the world. He who begins his work with this universal matter, doesn't tinge right after the first processing, or one part of his tincture does only tinge fourteen parts. Though the particularists can heal themselves from many serious diseases , the universalists can actually make themselves young again. The universalists know from their stone, how to prepare the electrum, that is animated by their stone, which is a work of the light and the center of the all. Therefore they can learn all sciences very easily at will, which the particularists possibly must let be. Next time about the philosophical water. I received your letters to me to Nuremberg in Augsburg, where I write to you right now.

The 14th of May 1712

Antonius a Terra.

Schmuldvich
01-20-2019, 12:37 AM
Thank you for this, FF!

Please do translate the rest.



Here is the first one.

Four strange letters by an adept.


The ignorant disapproves to what he doesn't understand.
The scholar mocks about these big secrets.
Both have their free wills: but none of them is right[smart].

First letter


I heard that you helped my friend in an important affair and defended him with herculian braveness. Further, that you as a son of the art have walked into the labyrinth of chemistry and want to quench your thirst from this inexhaustible sea. Therefore I, to pay back your protection of my friend, tend to give you the Ariadnes' thread to lead you through this labyrinth and present you the bowl, with which you can draw from this sea (not it's rivers).

Some, like Bernhardus says, approach the sanctuary with unwashed hands and undertake chemical works without knowing their matter, namely a red earth from the garden of eden, in and out of which the perfect Adam has been created. But this matter, as soon as it had been stained by original sin, became black. Therefore the artist has to clean it and bring it back again to its first redness. As a first sign of friendship I recommend you to look through Philaletha's open entrance to the king's closed palace and thereafter I will lead you to those things that which the highest one gave me to see with eyes and grab with hands. Because what will those achieve who, being blind night owls, devastate coals and don't even know the true matter, for even Pontanus erred two hundred times in the right true matter. Others, instead of getting the stone of the wise, throw their treasures like stones out of the window. Instead of the gold they get smoke and famine and instead of health death. Though Sendivogius says that in the air there is that spirit, which after it's thickening and coagulation is worth more than all the treasures in the world. Even clearer the emerald tablet says: the sun is its father, the moon its mother, the winds have carried it in their belly, the earth is its nurse. If hence the winds have carried this archaeus in their belly, this archaeus therefore has not brought forth gold mines and mountains in the air, but this spirit that is created by the winds, is brought and infused into the center [midpoint] of the earth. And because the earth is its nurse, it has nurtured this newborn fruit with golden natural sulphurs as well as with its milk and raised it until a marriageable age. Subsequently this hermaphrodite procreated metallic fruits too. And that's how nature acts. Let us therefore imitate nature and don't harm her. Nature begins the work and the art finishes it. Man lives from the impure milk of the mother at the beginning, afterwards from the milk. Like that this archaeus too is saturated with impure sulphurs at the beginning until it passes over from the volatile into the fixed. It will be created all summer long until winter is coming. Because if this egg would not be sealed by winter to hold back the valuable steam, this fruit would perish in its first origin. Therefore the work needs to be imbibed and soaked with the philosophical milk after the impure sulphurs. The egg must not have the slightest opening if a new fruit should emerge from it.

Parsimony binds the common chemists and laboratory technicians literally on the mind. Sometimes they want to solute the common gold, sometimes fix the common mercury, but in these there is no living spirit. Because as soon as the metals are taken out of the mines and tortured through ovens and melting fires, they will be left by the acting spirit itself and our metals become dead bodies. The metals have lost their lives and the soul, if they have been robbed of this acting spirit. Our mercury is warm and moist and therefore unifies both sun and moon. It is gold-like and silver-like through and through, simple in its threefoldness and threefold in its oneness. It is the root-moisture and soulful seed of metals. And even if it is locked inside the strongest prison by nature, it can be freed and redeemed out of it again with diligent and laborious art anyway. For the art cleans through a damping fire the paths that lead to the chamber and the prison. And so what nature could not do itself, it can do with the help of the art, whilst our mercury tears apart the bonding that bound it [the mercury]. And in this mercury, gold and silver are united philosophically in a way that it is the true seed of common gold and silver. But no seed is useful for anything if it doesn't putrefy. For the putrefaction must precede the procreation. But the putrefaction consists of blackness. So if we don't blacken before we whiten, we won't bring forth anything but many unripe births and all work will be in vain. Those who work differently, flutter like butterflies around the light. Hermes doesn't use no glowing coals. Everyone has this matter in front of his eyes. It is the slightest one, so that even the poor can get it. In itself there is sun and moon in a philosophical way, but valuably it contains common gold and silver. Be that enough about the matter. Next time more about the philosophical water.
Nuremberg, the 17th January 1710.

Antonius a Terra.





Second letter


In the first letter I have written to you something about the first matter. If you would not have understood my words, I could have gone on straightway and would not dunk my feather into ink, but into the philosophical water. But it seems to be necessary, that I send you another letter about the first matter, sir. There is a matter that is indeed everywhere, though particular, from which it is possible to prepare the universal tincture (Tinctura universalissima). Both matters are possible to get everywhere, but more in an area than in another and more at a time than another. You should indeed get letters regularly from me, dear sir. But in two years I hope to be in Vienna, because I (hoping that there will be piece) want to travel to Hungary and visit that famous fatherland, in which the archeaus is said to be the strongest, because of the amount of minerals, quality of the wine, fertility of the soil. The particular matter is specified, but the the universal matter is not specified, but is a kind without a kind of its own, that means it is generic or universal. With one word: both matters behave like sunrays. Because NB. as long as these are in the air, they are universal and not specified. But when these rays fall into the mother (matrix) or ferment of the vine, they let the vine grow, and these rays are particularized or specified thereafter. If they fall into the majoram, they become majoram and let majoram grow, without further animating another plant. If those rays fall into a goldmine, they are gold-like, but specified. If they fall into the Saturnus, they are antimony-like.

In the air those rays are universal and a child of the sun. In the air there is, after Sendivogius, the spirit that rules in the air, which after its coagulation is more valuable than all treasures of the world. The fruit of the moon is universal as well. From these both there arises the mercury of the wise[philosophical mercury]. I know how to draw both from the air in a threefold way. This is the double animated mercury. A philosopher doesn't need to know the methods of these preparations of magnets to attract this double spirit. It is already enough when a philosopher knows that natural magnet, that magnetic principle, that adamic earth from garden eden, that is not gold-, not silver-like, not antimony-like, not vegetable, not specified, but universal. Then a philosopher will know how to draw out this double common mercury out of this common matter very easily, unspecified and universal. From the perspective of the astrological chemistry, this process will be clear because of the following: God created the whole world out of the chaos within six days in a commonly acting manner. Within six days the planets and on the seventh day he rested. Nevertheless you actually can't ascribe to god neither work nor rest. How is this to understand then? We need to explain the divine universal work with the work of the chemical particularists. Their chaos is antimony, from which they prepare a regulus, that has a certain metal seed and is not universal, but specified. There are feces produced automatically. But giving the name "feces" is a pity. The particularists and the philosophers in their particular or universal work, should not call these feces feces but flowers, or quintessence of the regulus. Just like that what is swimming on top of the milk is called flower of the milk (flos lactis). The particularists have learned these kinds of expressions from the pharmacists, which are calling the concentrated and crystallized substance of the wine "yeast of wine". What an indecorous designation! I wonder that they don't call the rock candy "yeast of sugar" too. If therefore god has created the six planets in six days, he rested at the seventh because the feces (to use such an indecorous designation) emerged from themselves [automatically]. Or the seventh planet that contains the unspecified universal seed. Out of this planet the philosopher will allure and get a double mercurial spirit. That one characteristic sign of this magnetic principle behavior or seventh planet is this: that after its dissolution in the most common spirit Azoth, it visibly displays the six days of genesis in the first solution. Another characteristic sign is, that the stone that is prepared this universal way, when a few grans from it are tossed on one of the seven metal's melted regulus, it lets appear all the stars of all the sky in the upper part of the crucibles, whose appearance vanishes again after midnight. There are other countless signs of the true universal matter too. Those who don't use this seventh planet, begin their work specified or particular. But those, who use this magnetic principle imitate the example of the almighty creator of the world. He who begins his work with this universal matter, doesn't tinge right after the first processing, or one part of his tincture does only tinge fourteen parts. Though the particularists can heal themselves from many serious diseases , the universalists can actually make themselves young again. The universalists know from their stone, how to prepare the electrum, that is animated by their stone, which is a work of the light and the center of the all. Therefore they can learn all sciences very easily at will, which the particularists possibly must let be. Next time about the philosophical water. I received your letters to me to Nuremberg in Augsburg, where I write to you right now.

The 14th of May 1712

Antonius a Terra.

Illen A. Cluf
01-20-2019, 03:21 PM
Great work, FF. Most interesting letters!

Florius Frammel
01-20-2019, 03:44 PM
Thanks!
Anyone like to discuss the content of the second one? The seventh day/planet seems to be a main topic here. That's the day when god rested and did nothing.
The seventh planet imo is saturn. Other symbols are lead, the raven, black sun. As saturn eats its offspring it is also a symbol for death, to additionally throw an answer to Andro's question into the ring. Your views?

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d0/Vitriol-1-stolzius_von_stolzenburg-1614.PNG/220px-Vitriol-1-stolzius_von_stolzenburg-1614.PNG

Could be the moon as well. Makes sense equally.

alfr
01-20-2019, 04:02 PM
Great work, FF. very interesting letters! please continue it

thanks Alfr

Seraphim
01-20-2019, 06:06 PM
Wow! thanks FF :). Is that Saturn in that image? What is he holding?

Florius Frammel
01-20-2019, 08:07 PM
Wow! thanks FF :). Is that Saturn in that image? What is he holding?

Some time ago we had a thread where we discussed some of the symbols of that picture. Unfortunately I can't remember the name, or keywords to search and find it.

Edit: Please allow me to re-post this message here:


Another possibly interesting connecting thread: If we go by the 'Electric Universe' cosmology, Saturn was the original Proto-Sun around here. This could be symbolically signified by Judaism having the Sabbath as their "holy" day. According to the same model, our current sun entered the playground later on, and this could signify the transition to changing the holy day to Sunday (in christianity). Venus is also claimed to have emerged in our neighborhood after the new sun came along, so this could be tied to why the muslim holy day is Friday. Or maybe it's all just a big mindfuck.

Florius Frammel
01-22-2019, 03:39 PM
Third letter
Inspruck [Innsbruck], 9th of June 1712.
I have delayed writing letters because before I write something more clear, I wanted to know through the kabala, if you maybe share my letters with someone? You have shown my letters to one single doctor, who read them with disgust and reluctance, because he considers making gold as being impossible, preparing only remedies and despising and neglecting metallic works. If this doctor knew something about the lucky aspect of his planets, he would change his sense pretty soon. I met this doctor in Hamburg, but I never told him anything. You have given copies of my letters to the honorable D. Plebanus, who read them with desire and only wished that they would have been written more clearly. Just like I would have to write for pharmacists and not for sons of the art, though he is one himself. But he doesn't catch the birds of Hermes by the head, the wings, or the feet, but by the tail, which those birds leave behind in the hand. But they themselves (Diana's doves) fly away. I will speak to one of these two sirs when I will have arrived in Vienna. But the other one of them will be lying down because of a major illness after my arrival in Vienna. But I will give him a remedy unrecognized. Both were born under Jupiter. But you, dear sir, I am willing to take with me to Hungary as my accompaniment, with the help of the blessed stone which is a work of light. If you should not find pleasure in chemistry, I will show you the richest, for the time being untouched and unknown mines of Hungary and teach you how to process it with small effort and big advantage. But I am willing to make the stone for the seventh time when in Hungary, for I already made it six times. Because Hungary is ,when looking at the wines and minerals, the most fertile country. Therefore the spirit of the world itself must be found in abundance there. Because the more the countries differ and are remote to the tempered zones, the more rare and poorer is the archaeus. I had not been able to coagulate an archaeus in Egypt. In Spain a small amount, in Italy and in France too a little more. At two places in Germany a sufficient amount, but the most in Switzerland. But I am very eager to see Hungary because of the freshly dug minerals of the mountains which NB. have not endured fire. I will do marvelous things, which the world would never want to believe. I wanted to carry one hundred urnes full of Tokaji wine after its concentration with me in my bag. But the biggest pleasure I will have with the coagulation of the archaeus, that is attracted out of the air to prepare the tincture. With the tincture I prolonged my life and protected it against the violence and influences of the elements, because I am several hundred years old. But the tincture can't stop and diminish the influence of the stars. Therefore, because after thirty five years the power and effect of the elements will have weakened (see Jac[ob]. Böhm[e]), there will, because of my planets' run have come to an end, my three basic forces will be dissoluted by the divine Chemikus. The body will rot in the earth, the spirit will return to the stars and the immortal soul will approach the deity. In this observation, to not bury everything into the earth, I will reveal a lot to three sons of the art, when I am going to come to Vienna. But after the successful preparation of the stone, I am going to visit the remaining parts of the kingdom of Hungary, until I am dissoluted and with Christo. D. Medicus should engage to prepare the animal alkahest out of the microcosmic sea, with which alone he will cure all diseases -even the plague. Or he should try to prepare the vegetable alkahest out of three different salts of Tartarus, with which he also not only can cure all diseases, but with this alkahest he can gradate the power of all his medicines up until the highest grade. For example: He should solute Krebsaugen [eyes of cancer - probably means limy mineral crusts formed in the inside of crustaceans] with the vegetable alkahest and he will dissolute all stones inside the human body. If he solutes the Castoreum of beavers in the vegetable alkahest, he will cure all cold strokes and paralysis with it. But should D. Parochus should have prepared one of the above mentioned alkahests, he has to make it mineral-, or metal-like. Or he prepares himself immediately a metallic or at the least a mineral alkahest and then he will be able to solute the matter of the stone in its three beginnings, out of whose the universal tincture will emerge. But there are two matters for the stone: a particular, which will never tinge more than fourteen parts its weight. But the second is the most universal one. This tinges, after the first operation, a thousand times its own weight. The first matter can also be dissoluted with those indicated alkahests. The latter matter, when dissoluted with the metallic alkahest of its nature, can tinge a thousand times its own weight. But if one sets all these alkahests aside and dissolutes the latter matter with the Azoth itself, then you will see god's wonderful works in this dissolution. Namely the work of the six creation days of the world, like I have noted recently in my letter. This work is by far stranger than the stone itself. D. Parochus pretends to know this Azoth. More I can't say and write even less than this: There is a spirit in the air, that after its coagulation is more valuable than all the treasures in the world. That's what Sendivogius is claiming. But in Hungary I wanted to coagulate ten cans of this spirit. And what would I do from it? Nothing more than a good medicine against consumption [tuberculosis]. I never revealed anything in an oral way of what I now even entrust to the innocent paper. This coagulated spirit must before all things, because it is created in the air, because the winds have carried it in their belly and it originates from the stars, must, I say, be cleansed seven times to get the powers of all seven planets and thereafter it will excel all treasures of the world. Not before. That's a characteristic of this Azoth which no one, without divine revelation, or message from an adept will get to know. Next time I will either write about more characteristics of this Azoth, or talk more about it when you are present. Yours sincerely Antonius a Terra ad Terram et in Terra.

Florius Frammel
01-22-2019, 03:55 PM
Personal annotations. It could be valuable to google search the names of the people, whose first name all seems to begin with a D.

The countries he is enumerating, can be interesting to look at on a map too. As well as the writer's own alleged travelling to Hungary. Sometime ago there was a discussion about cardinal points. Maybe here is a possible reason why the GuR seemed to have prefered the East, while others (Hermetic Recreations, Basil Valentine,..) insisted on the north.

black
01-23-2019, 01:47 AM
What a pure joy it would be for any aspiring Alchemist to receive such letters.

It is wonderful to be able to read them now.

Thank you Florius.

alfr
01-23-2019, 07:21 AM
thanks FF It is very wonderful to be able to read these letters now.

very Thank you Florius. please continue

z0 K
01-23-2019, 05:33 PM
If he is right, does this mean that if you condense the fumes produced from smelting an ore you will have the mercury :confused: Just an idea.

Seeking Our Mercury in the ores of metals is fruitless.

That idea is a metaphor for the artificial process of the Alchemical Art. The ores of metals in the Earth possess not Our Mercury.

Here beginneth the Treatise of
The Key of Alchmie
& first of the vegetable stone

Hermes the great father & Prince of chymicall philosophers after he had in the beginning of Tabula Smaragdi[1] set out the certaintie of the art, comming to speak of the materials of the philosophers stone; he willeth us to take the stone Animal, Vegetable, Mineral; of the Animall, & the Minerall, shall be spoken in their due place; in the mean time wee will handle the vegetable; And although the philosophers have ascribed divers slender devices rather to cover than to disclose the fruite thereof; As Garland[2] in his 14th Chapter, Quia ex succo trium herbarum simul conjunctarum ~ mercurialis, Portulacae marinae quae Lac facit & Chelidoniae; Whereas he meaneth the Mercuries [symbol] of bodies, Sol & Luna; Luna by purslaine, by Chelidoniae, Sol, which close coluoring, have made the unlearned sort; yea & some that think themselves right wise, to seeke it in herbs & plants; As writeth Thomas Norton in his 4th Chapter, calling with Tousill, not knowing the cause whie it is called vegetable, for alonlie are trees, herbes, & plants, vegetables. And therefore may it easilie be objected on this wise; Nothing giveth that which has it not; vegetables have no metallic vertue, {...}; True; the parts are not to be denied, & yet to be distinguished; vegetables are not used in the stone to give any metallike virtue, but onlie to serve for preparation of metals; That thereby the vertues may be the better extracted; & yet using the self-same reason, I would prove that same vegetable giveth ingression to metals thus; That which it hath it may give to the stone; vinneger commeth of the vine, & hath vertue ingressive; Our vinneger vegetable may give ingression to the stone; which I thus prove; the spirit of the stone giveth ingression to the stone; the spirit of vinneger is in the spirit of the stone; Ergo the spirit of vinneger joyned to the spirit of the Stone giveth ingression unto the stone; Therefore writeth Riplie on the words of Marie, The water is the Menstrue drawne out from him, which consisteth of double Spirit, that is of vinneger & of himself, & in his vision againe:

Samuel Norton

Illen A. Cluf
01-23-2019, 06:29 PM
Seeking Our Mercury in the ores of metals is fruitless.

That idea is a metaphor for the artificial process of the Alchemical Art. The ores of metals in the Earth possess not Our Mercury.

Here beginneth the Treatise of
The Key of Alchmie
& first of the vegetable stone

Hermes the great father & Prince of chymicall philosophers after he had in the beginning of Tabula Smaragdi[1] set out the certaintie of the art, comming to speak of the materials of the philosophers stone; he willeth us to take the stone Animal, Vegetable, Mineral; of the Animall, & the Minerall, shall be spoken in their due place; in the mean time wee will handle the vegetable; And although the philosophers have ascribed divers slender devices rather to cover than to disclose the fruite thereof; As Garland[2] in his 14th Chapter, Quia ex succo trium herbarum simul conjunctarum ~ mercurialis, Portulacae marinae quae Lac facit & Chelidoniae; Whereas he meaneth the Mercuries [symbol] of bodies, Sol & Luna; Luna by purslaine, by Chelidoniae, Sol, which close coluoring, have made the unlearned sort; yea & some that think themselves right wise, to seeke it in herbs & plants; As writeth Thomas Norton in his 4th Chapter, calling with Tousill, not knowing the cause whie it is called vegetable, for alonlie are trees, herbes, & plants, vegetables. And therefore may it easilie be objected on this wise; Nothing giveth that which has it not; vegetables have no metallic vertue, {...}; True; the parts are not to be denied, & yet to be distinguished; vegetables are not used in the stone to give any metallike virtue, but onlie to serve for preparation of metals; That thereby the vertues may be the better extracted; & yet using the self-same reason, I would prove that same vegetable giveth ingression to metals thus; That which it hath it may give to the stone; vinneger commeth of the vine, & hath vertue ingressive; Our vinneger vegetable may give ingression to the stone; which I thus prove; the spirit of the stone giveth ingression to the stone; the spirit of vinneger is in the spirit of the stone; Ergo the spirit of vinneger joyned to the spirit of the Stone giveth ingression unto the stone; Therefore writeth Riplie on the words of Marie, The water is the Menstrue drawne out from him, which consisteth of double Spirit, that is of vinneger & of himself, & in his vision againe:

Samuel Norton

I don't see how this quote denies that metals are not used. This part only deals with the vegetables - he said he would get to the animal and mineral later. He clearly states: "vegetables have no metallic vertue". Further, he says: "vegetables are not used in the stone to give any metallike virtue, but onlie to serve for preparation of metals". Clearly, the "metallike vertue" does not come from vegetables, and obviously can only come from the metals. The vegetables are only used in the preparation of the metals. Why prepare metals when they aren't used in the preparation of the stone?

z0 K
01-23-2019, 08:17 PM
I don't see how this quote denies that metals are not used. This part only deals with the vegetables - he said he would get to the animal and mineral later. He clearly states: "vegetables have no metallic vertue". Further, he says: "vegetables are not used in the stone to give any metallike virtue, but onlie to serve for preparation of metals". Clearly, the "metallike vertue" does not come from vegetables, and obviously can only come from the metals. The vegetables are only used in the preparation of the metals. Why prepare metals when they aren't used in the prpearation of the stone?

Metals are used as S. Norton says which Ripley agrees by reference. There are two great difficulties. Preparation of the secret solvent or Philosophical Mercury and the preparation of the Salt. Many recipes and many metaphoric statements have been made by the adepts concerning both.

One work builds on another. At the base or beginning of the Key of Alchemy is the Vegetable Stone. Lots of recipes for the Vegetable Stone are available for learning in the lab. Relating that to the work with metals for transmutation is not written in a clear manner that can be applied in the lab. That's why no one succeeds these days.

The quote for this reply was "Because as soon as the metals are taken out of the mines and tortured through ovens and melting fires, they will be left by the acting spirit itself and our metals become dead bodies." Could lead one to think that the spirit was in the ore in the mine so one could get the ore from the mine and distill the spirit from it. Doing so does not lead to success as many have found out by experimentation.

However the admonition is to revive a dead body. Here the dead body is the metal whose "virtues" are to be extracted by "Our vinneger vegetable."

Illen A. Cluf
01-24-2019, 04:16 PM
Metals are used as S. Norton says which Ripley agrees by reference. There are two great difficulties. Preparation of the secret solvent or Philosophical Mercury and the preparation of the Salt. Many recipes and many metaphoric statements have been made by the adepts concerning both.

One work builds on another. At the base or beginning of the Key of Alchemy is the Vegetable Stone. Lots of recipes for the Vegetable Stone are available for learning in the lab. Relating that to the work with metals for transmutation is not written in a clear manner that can be applied in the lab. That's why no one succeeds these days.

The quote for this reply was "Because as soon as the metals are taken out of the mines and tortured through ovens and melting fires, they will be left by the acting spirit itself and our metals become dead bodies." Could lead one to think that the spirit was in the ore in the mine so one could get the ore from the mine and distill the spirit from it. Doing so does not lead to success as many have found out by experimentation.

However the admonition is to revive a dead body. Here the dead body is the metal whose "virtues" are to be extracted by "Our vinneger vegetable."

Thanks - your explanation clarifies the purpose for your previous quote.

Florius Frammel
01-24-2019, 08:29 PM
Fourth letter
From the neighborhood.
You have been brought to read many books about chemistry because of my letters, without having put hand on the work yourself in the least, or on the plow. Therefore I won't write more about chemical things, but more about the Kabala to you. This word Cabala, קבל means as much like: "He has heard." Because this science had never been compiled and passed on in a written way, but always been told by the father into the ear of that one of his sons, to whom he gave his blessing. With this science Moses has brought forth water out of the rock and separated the seas. Gideon overthrew his enemies with it. Because therefore the faith of the Hebrews was just a natural one, it did not deserve several supernatural wonderworks . But to support the natural faith, they used only natural cabalistic secrets. Because therefore the Hebrews, who lived in the shadow and under idols, had this Kabala, how much more can we, who live under the grace of god, who have the grain, while the Hebrews only got the stubble and the chaff, get to this [Kabala]? He who wants to get first knowledge about this science should buy himself the Hamburg edition of Basilius Valentinus and read the content of (if I'm not wrong) page 173, about the secret philosophy, but with the most observant mind and ponder and consider all the golden words repeatedly. Also beware not to mingle this text by Basilius with foisted ones by the wrong philosophers: that soul and spirit would be the same. The spirit is mercury, the soul is sulphur. The spirit stems from the stars, the immortal soul is a particle of the deity. Therefore Basilius says at the cited place: the dissoluted and freed spirit can be of service to another, the dissoluted soul goes to god and is of no one's service. Why said Christ at the cross: Father, into your hands I order my spirit. He did not recommend the soul that is united with the deity. There was a chimera with Aristotle: a foxgoose, the goatstag. It's impossible that a fox can be a goose at the same time. Our theologians, having been taught by the faith, claim there is a god-man and a man-god in Christo. After Aristotle it would have been a much bigger chimera, if there would exist a god-man, than a foxgoose. Our theologians claim, out of a certain conviction of faith, that there would exist a god-man. Actually this would happen and be possible because of the subsistence. Would one ask them what the subsistence is, so they would answer, mislead by Aristotle's errors: the subsistence would be a quality. But I say: but what is a quality? That is the unknown animal of Aristotle. I really wished that all theologians would learn and remember that the qualities are all several coincidences of destroyable mixed bodies. How can they therefore impute a quality of themselves to god, the infinite being? But given, that the spirit is something else, and something else is the soul, then one will be able to explain with true clear mind what the subsistence is. Furthermore read Jacob Böhme and you will find there not only what the Kabala is, but all the dispositions and qualities that are necessary to perform [the Kabala] too. Who this understood by few and despised by many Jacob Böhme is? I will tell you: He was a Lutheran and also a baptized shoemaker . At baptism all graces of mercy were poured out to him as well and stayed with him all his life as a persistent property, like it is illuminated by his works and in his Apologie most clearly. He never stained his soul with a committed sin against the laws of nature. Why should god the lord not supply a baptized Lutheran, that is living in correspondence with nature's laws, with such kinds of graces of mercy, with which he even reprieved the pagan, unbaptized Sybils just because of their virginity and chastity which they got and kept? The insufficiency of the paper and the short of time force me to close. You can learn this science without much work and effort, only with diligence and godly life, with which you can become the monarch of the whole world. I, being an inhabitant of heaven, member of angels and citizen of the heaven, am
Ew. [yours] x.
Ant. a Terra.


That's it. Of course a translation can never be as good as an original, as you all know. But I have not put in errors on purpose or anything like that, but did this the best I could at this point of time.

Florius Frammel
01-25-2019, 07:00 AM
Just in case you are interested. Here is the picture that is accompanied with Jacob Böhme's "Apologien" that were mentioned in the last letter.

http://www.esoteric.msu.edu/jpg/Apologien.jpeg

You won't have problems finding english versions of his work.

Illen A. Cluf
01-25-2019, 05:53 PM
That's it. Of course a translation can never be as good as an original, as you all know. But I have not put in errors on purpose or anything like that, but did this the best I could at this point of time.

Thanks again for all your work, FF! It's much appreciated. It's too bad that the recipient of the letters wasn't more attentive. It looks like the author was at first willing to reveal some important clues concerning alchemy. This enthusiasm obviously dwindled during the course of the letters.

Florius Frammel
01-25-2019, 08:56 PM
Thanks again for all your work, FF! It's much appreciated. It's too bad that the recipient of the letters wasn't more attentive. It looks like the author was at first willing to reveal some important clues concerning alchemy. This enthusiasm obviously dwindled during the course of the letters.

Thanks for the appreciation, Illen! I don't really agree. First, it is my impression that what we have got here is some kind of early form of 'scripted reality'. I don't buy the sender/recipient relationship at all (though I see a small percentage of probability that I could be wrong too). Second, imo the latter letters have their highlights too. For example here it is the first time I encountered an alternative explanation why many alchemists insist of using hungarian minerals like vitriol, or antimony (though not explicitly mentioned). Another thing is an alternative/additional explanation of the GuR's fixation on the east. Of course I am aware that's just subjective speculation about some alchemical aspects, that seem to be rather far out of common research and interest, but I enjoyed it anyways.

Illen A. Cluf
01-25-2019, 09:09 PM
Thanks for the appreciation, Illen! I don't really agree. First, it is my impression that what we have got here is some kind of early form of 'scripted reality'. I don't buy the sender/recipient relationship at all (though I see a small percentage of probability that I could be wrong too). Second, imo the latter letters have their highlights too. For example here it is the first time I encountered an alternative explanation why many alchemists insist of using hungarian minerals like vitriol, or antimony (though not explicitly mentioned). Another thing is an alternative/additional explanation of the GuR's fixation on the east. Of course I am aware that's just subjective speculation about some aspects, that seem to be rather far out of common research and interest, but I enjoyed it anyways.

Good points, FF. I certainly don't disagree that the letters contained valuable information. However, I feel that if they had been "scripted" in the way that you suggest, then it's unlikely that the writer would have suddenly shifted to a discussion about the Kabala. The whole flow of the discussion does not seem right, or logical, unless the writer had been concerned about the recipient's lack of interest in alchemy, and therefore diverted the discussion to the recipient's main interest, in order to avoid wasting further clues about alchemy. Just my opinion.

Seraphim
01-28-2019, 02:51 AM
Nice letters! Thank you for sharing FF. :) This guy has an angel pen pal? That's pretty fucking cool. What is the Sun doing to that Dragon?

Florius Frammel
02-15-2019, 05:19 AM
Wow! thanks FF :). Is that Saturn in that image? What is he holding?

http://forum.alchemyforums.com/showthread.php?5640-Cobalt-is-the-new-Iron!&p=57761#post57761

vigilance
02-15-2019, 12:57 PM
You won't have problems finding english versions of his work.

Who's better, do you figure.. Sparrow or William Law?

Florius Frammel
02-15-2019, 03:50 PM
Who's better, do you figure.. Sparrow or William Law?

If you like birds, or Pirates of the Caribbean, you should pick the first one. If you have fun living your life according to the orders of your judicial, pick the second. ;)

Actually I don't know neither of those two guys, so the above is the best advice you can get from me ;)