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Vlad
05-21-2009, 01:12 AM
Here's another modified method report I found for it in ORMUS archives.
The only question I have is how one makes colloidal gold without a high voltage power supply. I don't think one can make colloidal gold using low DC voltage and gold wires? Without reagents? I never tried though.
Also I suppose using sodium phosphate would make this work even faster and better.
Anyway here is the report from the archive:

The "boiling gold process" requires the experimenter
to boil gold BB's for at least a week. This is
difficult to do in many living quarters. In addition,
many experimenters have found it difficult to
get a red precipitate with the "boiling gold process".
The following process will produce a red precipitate
with only 6 hrs of boiling.

1. Make some colloidal gold using distilled water
at room temperature. (adding salt makes it
difficult to get a red precipitate)

2. Put the colloidal material in a HDPE container.
(A teflon lined nalgene container is preferable.
A regular HDPE container will be stained red by
this process.)

3. Add enough 1-4 lye solution to to bring the ph
above 13.

4. Squeeze as much air as possible out of the HDPE
container and screw the lid on tight.

5. Place the container in a large pot of boiling
water. It is important to insure that the
the lid does not get submerged. Use jars
filled with water to prop up the HDPE container
if necessary.

6. Boil the solution for 6 hrs. Check the HDPE
container from time to time to insure that
it remains sealed and that it has not filled
up with air.

7. Filter the solution through at least 6 layers
of coffee filters.

8. Let the solution sit at least 2 wks in an HDPE
container at a ph of 13. Some sedimet may
settle in the bottom of the container.

9. Filter the solution again through 6 layers of
coffee filters.

10. Bring the ph down to around 10. This should
produce a red precipitate.


I suspect that readers who are familiar with the
"Dry Process" and the "Boiling Gold Process" will
have little difficulty in executing the procedures
outlined above. I have mixed feeling about the
process outlined here. The use of colloidal
gold in the modified "dry process" makes it
posssible to obtain a red precipitate in a fairly
short period of time. However, the red precipitates,
produced by this process, are not nearly as "effective"
as the exiliers produced by Jerel's electro-mechanical
methods.

Vlad
05-21-2009, 01:25 AM
More:

I have also used the process that I outlined in
my post on colloidal gold with colliodal silver.
After boiling the silver, I got both black and blue
precipitates. The blue precipitates stained my
coffee filters while the black precipitates stayed
on top.

Additional black material settled on the bottom of
my flasks while I let the solution sit for two weeks.
After filtering, I got a combination of white and
citrine colored precipites. The citrine color
diminished slightly after washing.

This stuff is one of the most powerfull antibiotics
I have ever used. It once cured a nasty sinus infection
in less than three hours.

Unfortunately, I believe that this stuff is
also somewhat toxic. Regular colliodal silver
is probably safer. This belief is based more
on my intuition than on any specific reactions
to this substance. I would urge extreme caution
in using this substance until more is known about
it.

Vlad
05-21-2009, 01:42 AM
http://www.cgcsforum.com/index.php has some methods for making colloidal gold using low voltage, but uses citrate or ascorbate with sodium or potassium chloride and H2O2. The method from the archive called for the absence of salt. I wonder how he made his colloidal gold without salt. Maybe high voltage.

Aleilius
05-21-2009, 01:56 AM
Here's a few methods for collodial gold:



Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colloidal_gold

Pioneered by J. Turkevich et al. in 1951 and refined by G. Frens in 1970s, this recipe is the simplest one available. Generally, it is used to produce modestly monodisperse spherical gold nanoparticles suspended in water of around 10–20 nm in diameter. Larger particles can be produced, but this comes at the cost of monodispersity and shape.

* Take 5.010−6 mol of HAuCl4, dissolve it in 19 ml of deionized water (the result should be a faintly yellowish solution).
* Heat it until it boils.
* Continue the heating and, while stirring vigorously, add 1 ml of 0.5% sodium citrate solution; keep stirring for the next 30 minutes.
* The colour of the solution will gradually change from faint yellowish to clear to grey to purple to deep purple, until settling on wine-red.
* Add water to the solution as necessary to bring the volume back up to 20 ml (to account for evaporation).

The sodium citrate first acts as a reducing agent. Later the negatively-charged citrate ions are adsorbed onto the gold nanoparticles, introducing the surface charge that repels the particles and prevents them from aggregating.

Another one: dissolve gold chloride in water, and reduce with phosphorous.

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I've been thinking of a method like this for a while now, but it's somewhat different. Maybe one day I'll decide to post it after giving it a try myself.

Vlad
05-21-2009, 02:42 AM
I found this from the same posted in the same archive:

Colloidal gold can be made with distilled water. It takes
longer and you will not be able to see the reaction. I
once got a red colored colloid with just distilled water.
I believe I ran the reaction at 12 volts for 3 hours.
I may be necessary to use very thin electrodes to get
this effect. I'm not sure. I also found some fairly
heavy red materials in the bottom of my flask. I didn't
feel that there was anything special about this material.
(no citrine suspension) I threw it away.

Aleilius
05-21-2009, 02:47 AM
That's wild! Just distilled water and gold electrodes?