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  1. Jimmy Rig's Avatar
    Jimmy Rig -
    Sincere post Andro! I do tend to agree with what you have wrote here. A good reminder to not be so serious!
  2. Awani's Avatar
    Awani -
    Same in Swedish. Viktig (vikt = important)

    Reminds me of:



    Quote Originally Posted by Kibric
    Really well written. Feels like its part of a book.
    Its a shame the blogs on here don't get more traffic. Theres a lot of good insight.
    The main forum is Judaism, Christianity and Islam and the blog section is like Kabbalah, Gnosticism and Sufism.

  3. Kibric's Avatar
    Kibric -
    Really well written. Feels like its part of a book.
    Its a shame the blogs on here don't get more traffic. Theres a lot of good insight.
  4. Kiorionis's Avatar
    Kiorionis -
    I’m interested in learning more about prelest/spiritual delusion and how it could be avoided.
  5. Andro's Avatar
    Andro -
    So far, there are already quite a few parallels between what you are describing and Eastern Traditions of Liberation.

    Such as avoiding "visualizations" and other delusions/fantasies created by the mind, as well as "seeing" the "Uncreated Light".

    Great that you're writing about this, I literally had no idea!
  6. Seth-Ra's Avatar
    Seth-Ra -
    Quote Originally Posted by Kiorionis
    Its always a pleasure to read what you write! Thanks for sharing with us
    Thank you for the encouragement, and I'm glad you find it enjoyable.

    Quote Originally Posted by Andro
    Jessie, on a side note:

    I some Eastern traditions, one of the (several) Paths to Liberation does not require any sophistication or complex practices, but only total immersion in prayer and unshakeable faith & devotion.

    There are even alleged cases of manifesting the "Rainbow Body" through this path exclusively. It's non-theistic prayer though, but I don't think it matters, ultimately.
    Interesting. He has strongly emphasized faith and the practice of prayer to me since this started. One of the things I've looked into, is the Hesychasts, which were/are a group of Eastern Orthodox monastics.
    You can get a glimpse here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hesychasm
    The short of it, and the main point, is that they reject any and all imaging/imagination during prayer and meditation, seeking to be of sound mind, and cultivate a hyper awareness, all the while, repeating "The Jesus Prayer" ("Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner.") and meaning it with their whole body, heart and spirit. They are also said to sit up right with their chin resting on their chest, and synching the prayer to their breathing. This has the two-fold intention of making it reflexive (so that with every breath, the prayer is on their tongue/lips, and is accordance with St. Paul's saying to "pray without ceasing") and they say, that if done well, and rightly, and the Lord wills it, you will see the Uncreated Light at your navel - and then there are many accounts of various changes or even divine gifts given to those that have experienced such.
    Ironically, the Roman Catholics considered it a heresy. While it's true that they would certainly know what heresy looks like (LOL), this has unequivocally been shot down by the rest of the Church, and since Rome and has long been schismed from The Church due their heresies - no one cares what they think. I just think it's funny they don't like it. Lol
    Oh, they are also against the imagination/visualization during prayer and meditation, so as to avoid prelest, that is, spiritual delusion. I'm sure you can appreciate that as well, considering recent discussions.
    I will have to make another post shortly concerning the Orthodox view of being - I feel like, once the terms are expressed, we may have some common understanding and agreement.
    (If not, it's fun to discuss differences as well.)



    ~Jessie
  7. Andro's Avatar
    Andro -
    Jessie, on a side note:

    I some Eastern traditions, one of the (several) Paths to Liberation does not require any sophistication or complex practices, but only total immersion in prayer and unshakeable faith & devotion.

    There are even alleged cases of manifesting the "Rainbow Body" through this path exclusively. It's non-theistic prayer though, but I don't think it matters, ultimately.
  8. Kiorionis's Avatar
    Kiorionis -
    It’s always a pleasure to read what you write! Thanks for sharing with us
  9. Seth-Ra's Avatar
    Seth-Ra -
    Quote Originally Posted by Andro
    Dear Jessie,

    Regarding the masons, it's "good riddance" IMO.

    As you might remember from our talks, I never really thought they'd have anything of actual value to offer you in the first place. If anything, more like the other way around.
    Of course.
    I think there was a reason for me to go, 2 of them in fact: 1 was to prepare me for a sense of community, as it was a long and persistent wound in me, no doubt a baby-step towards the Church. And 2: the ones I know personally, are good meaning folks, and they respect my intellect - I may be used as the catalyst to "free them" from it as well. If not, well, it'll be good practice anyway.

    Quote Originally Posted by Andro
    This new path will reveal itself in time.

    My only comment is never to give in to judgement or hatred.

    As long as god is in your path, leave the judgement to him

    Best Everything to you and your tribe!
    Absolutely. One of the hardest things for me to let go of is my wrath, but day by day that gets better. To be very capable, but choose to lay down one's weapons and be trusting, peaceful, regardless of outcome - is not an easy thing, and some days it vexes me so. But a steady prayer practice, and reading on those brethren that came before, and are still with us in the Spirit, is quite helpful. There is such a depth of knowledge and wisdom in this, that if I had known of it in my youth, I'd have had no need to study the Arcanum. But, clearly a different plan was intended - so I dealt with the empty and the vain, and sought the substance myself. Lol All things for a season and reason.


    ~Jessie
  10. Andro's Avatar
    Andro -
    Dear Jessie,

    Regarding the masons, it's "good riddance" IMO.

    As you might remember from our talks, I never really thought they'd have anything of actual value to offer you in the first place. If anything, more like the other way around.

    This new path will reveal itself in time.

    My only comment is never to give in to judgement or hatred.

    As long as god is in your path, leave the judgement to him

    Best Everything to you and your tribe!
  11. Seth-Ra's Avatar
    Seth-Ra -
    Quote Originally Posted by Awani
    This is the way... for you (if you get the Mando reference).
    Of course I get the Mando reference, love it.


    Quote Originally Posted by Awani
    Might I suggest that priests need to be updated to the 21st century. That wholesome holy church father is a bit "boomerish". Make it cool again.

    I mean, anything I do will be Kool, it's me.
    I actually do and am enjoying the Trad way they do things though. Very antithetical to the Prots and even Roman Caths.
    May make some more blog entries as I find interesting similarities and correspondences. There are some books I wanna get from Fr. Seraphim Rose, as he was around in the 1970s I believe, and studied under Allan Watts, before joining the Orthodox. I have been told his writings, along with Saint Maximus the Confessor from the early Father's, wrote a lot on the metaphysical and philosophical underpinnings of things, and should satiate my Alchemical-mind's need to know/understand.
    We shall see.
  12. Awani's Avatar
    Awani -
    This is the way... for you (if you get the Mando reference).

    He wants me, an alchemist, sorcerer, trained killer, who uses "fuck" like a comma, to be a priest?!
    Might I suggest that priests need to be updated to the 21st century. That wholesome holy church father is a bit "boomerish". Make it cool again.