HIM

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Originally Posted by Illen A. Cluf

There is drawing from another work that shows the light emanating from the Sun, being directed to the Moon, and then reflecting directly to the alchemist's plate of water through a magnifying lens. I couldn't find a link to this picture.

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I found it. I'm not sure what treatise it comes from. Anyone know?

http://forum.alchemyforums.com/showt...5479#post55479

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Originally Posted by Illen A. Cluf

I found it. I'm not sure what treatise it comes from. Anyone know?

http://forum.alchemyforums.com/showt...5479#post55479

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It's from Chymischer Monden-Schein, 1739.

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Originally Posted by theFool

To complement the previous post,

https://cdn18.picryl.com/photo/1702/...73f52-1024.jpg

we see in that plate the water emanating as droplets from a not shown source above the plate (probably it is "God"). During their descension towards earth they receive the influence of the luminaries.

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Hi theFool

The light coming down to the earth is the energy emitted from the Black Sun.

Green Lion spoke about this many years ago.

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From Green Lion
Salazius, Edmond Fieschi did not understand the real source of the "Cosmotelluric Energy".

Nothing to do with ultraviolet or "visible light" in general.

Alchemy use the "Black Light", the light which no one of our "instrument" can see.

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I've put together a collection of some interesting quotes from Green Lion that may
be of great value to some of the new and perhaps older members also. ;)

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From Green Lion

We can fix the Universal spirit without water, without metal, without nitrogen, without an element that acts like nitrogen.
Even without the protocol which uses moon and sun rays with mirrors.
You just have to hit the rock like Moses in the desert.
A source of clear water, which is the Universal Spirit fixed itself eventually leave the earth.
But patience must be at least 8 months the first time ...
And it is absolutely not magic either chemistry...

But no author explains that clearly.
Because many do not know how.
Fulcanelli himself does not know how to do and used as the majority of alchemists,
a Support for Fixing the Universal Spirit.

I spoke absolutely not about spiritual alchemy or internal alchemy.
I speak of "Laboratory" Alchemy.
The Universal Spirit is fixed itself in a sort of water, but not in humans.

The condensation of the Spiritus Mundi is a very great key.

We have to loose our classical view of the Nature, of the chemical, of the physic.
This condensation is not “normal” in our conception of the World.

A container, which was empty and hermetically sealed, can be filled by a liquid which we cannot understand the manifestation.
All the key is in the allegory of the crucifixion or of the Moshe’s stick, or of the Saint Michel flaming sword.

Yes, the rock can be the body from which the universal spirit can arise. But it is not the only.

Check the Mutus Liber : the space (and not the air) can give this spiritus mundi.


That is the second source.
And what is the nature of the rock ? This is not just a metal. This is all the Earth which symbol is like the antimony.
We have to put our sword in the earth or in the air (which is the intermediate between space and earth) to capture the spiritus mundi.
And this sword must be in contact with the hermetically sealed container in which we want to condensate the spiritus mundi.

This rock is indeterminate. It is of vegetable, animal and mineral/metallic origin. The stone is indeterminate. That is why we have to choose the realm in which we want the stone to have any action.

I speak knowingly because I realized in practice. I saw this water with my eyes.
I still need to work out how to speed up its condensation (for now, it takes 8 months for it wants to get out of the earth or air).

Just to make you understand that the stone has not necessarily its original in metallic realm: there are many treaties that talk of a spring of clear water from an oak, or rather just below an oak, roots level.
Similarly to the allegory of the childbirth of Miriam ...
Similarly Cyliani indicates that the clear liquor is from a celestial nymph.
And some say droppings of the North Star.

I do not say that work from the metal reign is bad or not working.
It works, it is clear.
It's the realm which gives the best result.
But it remains determined.
The way I speak is indefinite and therefore more powerful.
The first mercury is extracted from the "rock" is already a powerful medicine. This is the famous Living Mercury spoken Paracelsus.

This verifies that it is the Spiritus Mundi is how it appears (the steps):
- Container empty.
- Appearance of a fat oil at the bottom.
- Appearance of a white salt for two days. (Spontaneous appearance of a magnet for the Spiritus Mundi).
- Transformation of the fatty oil in water.
- Acceleration of condensation when the oil was transformed into a water.

But I worked with a sealed container and I don't use the solar rays directly either with mirrors.

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Thank you Illen.

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Originally Posted by Illen A. Cluf

Many of the alchemists say that it is the prime matter or building block of all that exists. Some call it "spiritus mundi", the spirit of the world. Some suggest that it descends from the heavens and others that it rises from the "central sun" of the world (inner molten core?). All metals are made of it through various degrees of coction and influences (heat, adjacent substances, etc).

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Yes ... the Great Spiritus Mundi / The "HIM" that must be Evolved and concentrated.

This is the manifestation of the light of the Black Sun.

Then through Alchemic Multiplication to increase it's Energy many thousands of fold
to then be able to Transmute. :)

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Originally Posted by Kibric

Hi thefool...

The field in which they collect water from their water traps
has a cow on the left and bull on the right.
Why not lions or ducks ?
What is different in the earth where cows and bulls graze, compared to other animals ?
The water traps in these fields also collect the moisture that settled on this ground then evaporated again.

The field where the cow and bull graze is water logged.
The sun re heats this water, it hangs in the air because its not hot enough to keep rising, the water cooling in the air descends down and condenses on the sheets which absorb this vapour.

The sun and moon are temperature symbols.
Hot vapour rising, fewer clouds, clearer sky. Dry fire.
Cool vapour descending. More clouds. Dark Rain clouds.
Moist fire.
Both fires at the same time needed for the alchemical process

To show the alchemical process clearly

Water and earth

The water on the ground is absorbed by the earth.
The water mixes with particles in the earth. Changing it.
" the nurse its earth " the earth tinges the water.

This fufills the requirement that the water must descend
And recieve the terrestrial power, which means tinging of the water by the earth that absorbed it.

Earth and air

The sun heats the ground causing a reverse cappilary action for the water, it rises up from the earth but only the finest particles that were in the earth go up with the rising vapour.
The finest particles are trapped in a heavier moisture or mass than themselves. The water vapour is not hot enough to evaporate completly and hangs in the air before descending.

Air and fire

The water rises and hangs in the air, fufilling the requirement of recieving the celestisal power, which is the tinged vapour containing the fine trapped particles from.the earth, having the sun evaporating away the lighter moisture around them.
Leaving only the heavier moisture in the air that was mixed with the earth and picked up those fine particles.

Earth water air and fire together.

That heavier vapour then descends and condenses onto the sheets after recieving both terrestrial and celestial power.

The 5th.element or essence are the fine particles
That have split up.and recombined within the 3 states of matter, solid liquid gas, using each element as a vessel.

Its one process without breaks. Over and over again.
The moisture becoming fully saturated with the fine particles from the earth.and the particles passing through the 3 states of matter, being split apart and recombining.
Traveling from earth into water, water into air, air into fire then back to water drunk up by the same earth.

Its a very informative picture. Thanks for posting it.

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Plz delete. Waste of time. Thx.

Hello Kibric

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Originally Posted by Kibric

To be frank black you havent shown any of your workings ever publically.

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You are correct Kibric.

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Basically no one has and yet from armchairs speak with so called authority.
You are an authority on the matter of alchemy
If you have extensive practical experience.

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30 years of lab work with hundreds upon hundreds of experiments.

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Have read alchemy texts nearly every week of your life.

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30 years of reading Alchemy Texts almost every day.

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Have shared your experiments and evidence of proof for your path.

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"Evidence of proof" ... is not allowed to be made public.

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I can count on.one hand those people including me.

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Congratulations on your most devout labors.

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Armchair alchemist says so much without saying anything.

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Those with an ear to hear may well do.

As you say I have shown no lab work at all to speak about on the open forum.

But I have shared what I consider to be a most priceless gift with the forum,
more priceless than the Philosophers Stone and that is that we can all communicate
with the "Divine". This is what is of the greatest value to me.

You have given me a nudge so I'm thinking about an experiment with photos to place
in the forum. Any suggestions ?

Thank you Kibric. :D

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Originally Posted by black

I'm thinking about an experiment with photos to place in the forum. Any suggestions?

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You could post an experiment showing "highly concentrated HIM" and its action on various matters.

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Originally Posted by Andro

You could post an experiment showing "highly concentrated HIM" and its action on various matters.

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I think you have hit the nail on the head Mr. Andro ..... I will do that.

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Originally Posted by Andro

You could post an experiment showing "highly concentrated HIM" and its action on various matters.

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Originally Posted by black

I think you have hit the nail on the head Mr. Andro ..... I will do that.

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NICE!