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    Hello. I'm new at alchemy, so can you explain me what is "secret fire" and Caro's stone?

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    The path of the Caro Stone uses Cinnabar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by memphis_mizraim View Post
    I have seen a manuscript with nearly one hundred pages very clear instructions.
    Where have you seen it?

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    In a private collection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Opus Magnum View Post
    Hello. I'm new at alchemy, so can you explain me what is "secret fire" and Caro's stone?
    Secret fire is the agent that you need to separate the Red Dragon into it's prima materia but if you are new to the alchemy don't try this path it is too dangerous to handle.

    For the beggining choose for example the solomon levi's "The quintessence of honey" path which can be very beautiful.

    P.S.
    Please don't turn this thread into a chit-chat spam-thread by posting nonsense.I am planing to update this thread very soon with other material that i have in my "private" collection.


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    Last edited by True Initiate; 10-04-2009 at 11:23 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by True Puffer View Post
    Secret fire is the agent that you need to separate the Red Dragon into it's prima materia but if you are new to the alchemy don't try this path it is too dangerous to handle.

    For the beggining choose for example the solomon levi's "The quintessence of honey" path which can be very beautiful.

    P.S.
    Please don't turn this thread into a chit-chat spam-thread by posting nonsense.I am planing to update this thread very soon with other material that i have in "my" private collection.


    True Puffer
    What is that Red Dragon?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Opus Magnum View Post
    Hello. I'm new at alchemy, so can you explain me what is "secret fire" and Caro's stone?

    The secret fire is a secret! The secret fire is the fire that "cooks" a truly
    alchemical work; it is not common fire/flames.
    According to this document, the secret fire is provided by the alkalis
    calcium oxide and potassium carbonate. As it tells you, when mixed with
    water these produce potassium hydroxide, which is just like sodium hydroxide
    (lye), only in alchemy sodium salts are designated to the animal kingdom
    and potassium salts are determined to the plant kingdom.
    As you probably know, hydroxides like lye produce a lot of heat when
    water is added to them, like with crystal drain openers. So you have heat/
    fire coming out of a "stone".

    The highest attainment in alchemy is the creation of the Philosophers'
    Stone. That stone is in the mineral kingdom. There is a white stone from
    silver and the red stone from gold which is the true Philosophers' stone, although in certain paths the red is merely a continued coction/solve-coagula
    of the white. Anyway, there are plant stones and animal stones, a stone
    from urine, etc. And in the mineral kingdom there is more than one path to
    the stone. So Caro's stone is the path that Caro developed or was taught
    to get to the Stone - also known as the Cinnabar Path. Though there is probably
    more than one path with cinnabar.

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    Thank's Solomon, well spoken.

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    Quote Originally Posted by solomon levi View Post

    The secret fire is a secret! The secret fire is the fire that "cooks" a truly
    alchemical work; it is not common fire/flames.
    According to this document, the secret fire is provided by the alkalis
    calcium oxide and potassium carbonate. As it tells you, when mixed with
    water these produce potassium hydroxide, which is just like sodium hydroxide
    (lye), only in alchemy sodium salts are designated to the animal kingdom
    and potassium salts are determined to the plant kingdom.
    As you probably know, hydroxides like lye produce a lot of heat when
    water is added to them, like with crystal drain openers. So you have heat/
    fire coming out of a "stone".

    The highest attainment in alchemy is the creation of the Philosophers'
    Stone. That stone is in the mineral kingdom. There is a white stone from
    silver and the red stone from gold which is the true Philosophers' stone, although in certain paths the red is merely a continued coction/solve-coagula
    of the white. Anyway, there are plant stones and animal stones, a stone
    from urine, etc. And in the mineral kingdom there is more than one path to
    the stone. So Caro's stone is the path that Caro developed or was taught
    to get to the Stone - also known as the Cinnabar Path. Though there is probably
    more than one path with cinnabar.
    Oh, thank you for a such detailed answer Just one more question. Is Red Dragon the Philosopher's Stone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Opus Magnum View Post
    What is that Red Dragon?

    In this case, cinnabar.
    But Puffer's right. Don't try this if you're new to alchemy.
    Cinnabar is mercuric sulphide. Mercury fumes are very toxic.
    Even hydrogen sulphide gas can hurt you if you don't know what you're doing. And potassium hydroxide can burn you or put out an eye...
    You should learn more about these materials before engaging such work.

    You can look into an alchemical dictionary as well. There are some online.
    You can find one here:
    http://forum.alchemyforums.com/showthread.php?t=103

    Welcome to the Great Work! There's much reading to do before you
    begin to find your way.

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