Ayahuasca Report

[Seth-Ra]

Your reports on this matter are very interesting. I myself do not partake of such substances, but rather, work on developing certain sights myself. (and considering what i normally experience... i dont need the drugs. O_o)

This caught my eye though:

He was twice my age and had come to Peru with his son. The mother knew nothing. The son was a spiritual seeker, the father average joe from a north-western state in the US. During the ceremony he suddenly started to think that the shamans were evil. That they were manipulating him. When he said Jesus name he could feel their powers go down.

Ive heard of other encounters like this, and have had some of my own. The interesting thing is how calling on the one we (Christians) consider to be God (and furthermore, the aspect/part of Himself that willingly sacrifices Himself for us), seems to act as a "safety card" one can play.
Its been stated in various places that going to quickly into the Arcanum will shatter one's being, not just mind, not just body, and not just soul - but all of them, to varying degrees, and even some to the point of ruin (or more correctly - to the point of releasing/dying). With it being said/understood that Yahoshua/Jesus/Christ - etc "died for our sins" and Alchemists tend to see ignorance as a grave sin/illness, and His sacrifice was so that we would "have ever-lasting life"... what im getting at, is the interesting way these stories that involve such, have Him (or the archetype of Him) "bailing the person out" of something they arent quite ready to handle, sparing them and giving them time to digest it all.

Tis... fascinating.


Thank you for sharing, id like to hear more stories, should they come about.



~Seth-Ra

[Awani]

Sure Seth-Ra, in the mean time this fell in my lap from sleeveless... a very catchy Icaros.



Hit single perhaps?!

[Ghislain]

I listened to this all the way through...

Amazing

What I would like to know is has anyone who has not experienced Ayahuasca listened to it.?

If so can you relate to it?

The reason I asked was that listening to some Icaros before taking this medicine I did not relate to them at all.

Ghislain

[Ghislain]

After watching the video Dev the screen filled with further youtube clips to look at.

I couldn't believe it when I found myself looking at the Maestras Olivia who was the one who blessed my Ayahuasca vine.

I had to click on that link.



Check it out.

Ghislain

[solomon levi]

I listened to this all the way through...

Amazing

What I would like to know is has anyone who has not experienced Ayahuasca listened to it.?

If so can you relate to it?

The reason I asked was that listening to some Icaros before taking this medicine I did not relate to them at all.

Ghislain

How much of a relation do you mean Ghislain?
It didn't really move me, but I like it allright.
I also like australian aboriginal didge music.
I imagine I didn't relate to it as you mean.

I'm sure I could google this, but why not talk to a person:
is an Icaros a song that a shaman received from Aya?

[Awani]

I'm sure I could google this, but why not talk to a person:
is an Icaros a song that a shaman received from Aya?

Yes, that is true.

Also I guess one has to experience these Icaros and Aya together with a Shaman in order to fully appreciate them. When I listen to them not only do I almost re-enter the Aya-world, but it gives me power, and often tears. Doesn't mean they make me sad, more like how you can cry watching a flower wither. The flow of life etc etc.

[solomon levi]

Thanks Dev.
Well, in my understanding, if the song came from that world, it can lead back.
I know that especially applies for those who have experienced Aya, but I take
it as a challenge - if one is fluid enough, they should be able to follow the song there.
I'll have to do some experimenting.

[Awani]

Post the results

What I recommend you do is if you take Mushrooms (a big dose), sit in a dark room and listen only to these Icaros then perhaps you can get an idea of their guiding power, of course it is not the same as having the Shaman there in front of you, but close enough. Then after this experience you might more easily navigate with the songs without Mushrooms. If you get the concept I am laying out.

I would love to have you (and others here) do a ceremony in the Amazon. And afterwards have a conference about it all. Sure would be some interesting discussions.



Note: and it is not music related, because I have experimented with a lot of different music but it is only these Icaros that have such a profound effect. For me anyway.

[Awani]

The great Maestro Wiler!

I love his Icaros, and also how he moves when he sings. During the ceremonies he was truly mesmerizing. The one-eyed Master Wizard from Amazonia.

[Ghislain]

Wow

Did you laugh along with him at the end Dev?

That was a knowing laugh.

Ghislain