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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrano View Post
    In a water trap,the water moves and get an induction from the magnetic fields.In the meow kettles,its the magnetic field thats moving,responding to the beat of the Planet!
    According to another researcher (Viny Pinto) it is possible to decrease the required time for the treatment of MEOW water from 3 days down to three hours by employing "a powerful magnet configured with the magnetite sand in a unique geometry"
    (source: http://ormuswater.vpinf.com/exp-products-1.html)

    This implies to me that there is a mechanistic/causative relationship between magnets and MEOW water that follows simple rules. We could get the MEOW device in a beautiful scenery, use native magnetite, pray to god etc. but will this decrease the time from 3 days to 3 hours? I don't think so. As the soul neeeds also a body in order to be able to manifest, similarly science is a helper of Alchemy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrano View Post
    Have you an idea of the possibile implications in Alchemy?.Here lies a great Secret,belive me.
    Here is a quote from the air trap designer:
    Aqua regia is not the only way to dissolve gold. The alchemists used 'Mercury'. This is a confusing kind of technical term. As a solvent, it is really about the fixation of the universal spirit in the air (also called Universal Mercury, i.e. LIFE) onto matter from any of the three kingdoms. It is a merging of Life energy and matter. The tangible matter which is usually a salt, after the life spirit has been fixed on it, has its chemical and physical properties seriously bent. A sublimate from this union acquires a new property in that it can now dissolve gold--no HCl/HNO3. Not a fantasy. Our group has done it
    source: http://www.subtleenergies.com/ormus/tw/airtrap.htm

    I don't know if you mean that this is "the Secret". I'm keeping a small basket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theFool View Post
    According to another researcher (Viny Pinto) it is possible to decrease the required time for the treatment of MEOW water from 3 days down to three hours by employing "a powerful magnet configured with the magnetite sand in a unique geometry"
    (source: http://ormuswater.vpinf.com/exp-products-1.html)

    This implies to me that there is a mechanistic/causative relationship between magnets and MEOW water that follows simple rules. We could get the MEOW device in a beautiful scenery, use native magnetite, pray to god etc. but will this decrease the time from 3 days to 3 hours? I don't think so. As the soul neeeds also a body in order to be able to manifest, similarly science is a helper of Alchemy.


    Here is a quote from the air trap designer:

    source: http://www.subtleenergies.com/ormus/tw/airtrap.htm

    I don't know if you mean that this is "the Secret". I'm keeping a small basket.
    As I said before,any addition of artificial magnetism, its not a good idea.The grains of magnetite are easily oriented by the variations of the Earth Magnetic Field.If an artificial magnet its added,the grains don't respond anymore to the tiny variations of the field of the planet.If there is a way to boost the influence of the device,without corrupting the created simpathy,I dont know.
    The true secret isnt in the possibilty to create something that dissolve gold or silver,without any know chemical reaction.In twenty years,I've found at least 14 compounds that does this operation,but no one give special proprieties to the dissolved metal,even if its used an alchemical modus operandi.
    Last edited by Cyrano; 12-07-2017 at 11:54 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrano View Post
    As I said before,any addition of artificial magnetism, its not a good idea.The grains of magnetite are easily oriented by the variations of the Earth Magnetic Field.If an artificial magnet its added,the grains don't respond anymore to the tiny variations of the field of the planet.If there is a way to boost the influence of the device,without corrupting the created simpathy,I dont know.
    The true secret isnt in the possibilty to create something that dissolve gold or silver,without any know chemical reaction.In twenty years,I've found at least 14 compounds that does this operation,but no one give special proprieties to the dissolved metal,even if its used an alchemical modus operandi.
    Thanks for sharing your opinions with us Cyrano.

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    I want to add that, if you place the device below ground level, you will have an amplified effect. You can use the apparatus to prepare very effective spagyric products.

    Do not worry about the wealth; rather, think about your health and that of your loved ones. Wealth can not buy the best things in life, and can even be a source of disturbance for your serenity.
    Last edited by Cyrano; 12-14-2017 at 12:17 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrano View Post
    I ask to the experienced people,with scientifically oriented mind,if they have considered the possibility that the milkyness of the water extracted with the traps, can be attributable to the formation of micro and nano bubbles of air inside the water that polymerizes to form the famous "fat". These microscopic pockets of air, become amost permanent, in high viscosity liquids. Thats because, like most of you (I hope) know, this 'oil' can be obtained, in different degrees, even with other static devices that manipulate Magnetism / Orgone / Aether. The difference lies in the fact that the formed oil its transparent.....
    If you read the Subtle Energies site, you will see that this grease has other properties when mixed with a salt compound. Properties that I do not believe can be attributed to simple bubbles in solution.

    I also noted Cyrano mentioned something about circulating water under influence of magnetic field. Vinny Pinto seems to be the guy who popularized the magnetizing water or magnetized air setups, where instead of a splitter which uses magnets to separate a stream of "hot", ormus laden material and "cold" pure material, magnets are used on a single quantity of water or air, and he claims to have similar results as the air/water trap people. However the problem here is that what he claims seems to be the exact opposite of what the classic water/air trap people claim. Namely that the magnetic field pushes away the stuff in the water. I am also a touch skeptical of this guy's claims, because with every setup, you see his accompanying claim that he feels some amazing, huge difference after consuming the resultant product.

    Some time ago I tried a simple blender setup (one of Vinny Pinto's methods I believe) where I got some natural rain water, put it in a bottle with magnets all around it, and shook it. After a brief period of time, the water did indeed become cloudy which surprised me, whereas the control bottle without magnets was still the same turbidity after shaking. IMO the magnets simply cause some sort of clumping effect in impurities in the water, and the resultant cloudiness is just a red herring; that is to say, it's not the same sort of cloudy grease you get from a magnet SPLITTER type air/water trap. There is a small amount of information that suggests this is the case.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_water_treatment
    Basically the magnetic field simply causes a sort of coagulation of existing impurities. So if done with distilled water, there should be no such effect, though I have not tested this.

    But maybe I am mistaken and Cyrano has some more interesting results to share.

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    Another experiment I did was a simple bubbler air trap on a full moon night. About 4cfm for maybe 8 hours. The water was indeed kind of cloudy the next day. I tasted the water briefly, but it was not sweet as some claim. It was left in a plastic jug for a while and over time the cloudiness faded. Over the course of a few months. Tried extracting with a layer of solvent that was NOT diethyl ether because someone on this forum claimed it would work, but it certainly extracted nothing. Diethyl ether is probably your best bet, as it is very volatile too.

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    In sum, the magnet traps have massive, massive potential. Another huge hint is the full moon and its significance. Why is there more mercury during full moons.
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