Spiritus Mundi

[Blacksmith]

"The substance which is sought is the same as that from which it has to be drawn forth."

this makes sense, the substance that must be extracted is SM so the stone is SM in another state which reminds me that

Opposites are identical in nature but different in degree

[Blacksmith]

My grandmother says that "To bring the Holy Spirit to earth we must have faith and perseverance and that she thought extracting it from the material plane was somehow an indecipherable question because heaven and earth were very distant things"

[Michael Sternbach]

My grandmother says that "To bring the Holy Spirit to earth we must have faith and perseverance and that she thought extracting it from the material plane was somehow an indecipherable question because heaven and earth were very distant things"

Are you familiar with Hermes Trismegistos' Emerald Tablet? It is considered the foundational text of our art.

This is what it has to say on the topic at hand:

The father of all perfection in the whole world is here.
Its force or power is entire if it be converted into earth.
Separate thou the earth from the fire,
the subtle from the gross
sweetly with great industry.
It ascends from the earth to the heaven and again it descends to the earth
and receives the force of things superior and inferior.
By this means you shall have the glory of the whole world and thereby all obscurity shall fly from you.
Its force is above all force,
for it vanquishes every subtle thing and penetrates every solid thing.

And that's something like half of the whole text of the Emerald Tablet I reproduced here! (In Isaac Newton's time-honoured translation.)

Perhaps let your grandmother have a go at deciphering this?

[Jahara]

No one is posting in the thread of the threads?

I know this is off topic, but this comment I always catch my mind , Rueb post this 17 days after the OP's post, it like he knew this thread would be the biggest in this forum.

[Blacksmith]

Can Orgonites open "portals" to SM?

[Andro]

To me, "Spiritus Mundi" is comparable to the omnipresent "Fuel" of the "World Engine". It exists and "circulates" in perpetuity - both "within" and "beyond" our "Reality System Construct".

In a way, it is LIFE itself, an Infinite and Perpetual "Broadcast". And like any "Broadcast" in Duality, it requires both an "Emitter" and a "Receiver".

All "manifest" Matter is a condensation of it, and is also nourished and/or "renewed" by it.

In "Spirit" form, it is reflected on the vertical "Axis Mundi", between the "Basement Luminary/World Engine" and the "North Star" or "Pole Star". See the symbol for "Niter".

In "Matter" form, it is reflected on the horizontal "Axis Mundi", between both the physical and the allegorical "Luminaires", the "Sun" and the "Moon". See the symbol for "Salt".

These symbols appear in many alchemical texts. They have "occult" or "metaphysical" meanings, as well as practical alchemical meanings.

For me, the condensation of a "Mercurial Spirit" or an "Astral Spirit" (in the ways of ICH and Cyliani and in other, more "eccentric" ways) has been a fascinating subject of practice, discovery and revelation for many years, and in particular the condensation of "PURE" Spiritus Mundi.

But in my personal view, it is not enough without the "Prepared Earth Matter", our "Prima Materia" or "Our Magnet", literally its "Counterpart". It's like the "Elementary Gold" of Limojon de St. Didier.

And this "Terrestrial Matter" can be increasingly "purified" and "perfected" from the point of view of its "internal structure", until it becomes a very attractive & conductive "capacitor" into which the "Universal Spirit" increasingly enters/penetrates, essentially (almost) by itself (save for a little bit of "external motion"), and remains "contained" there. Also worth remembering that "Like Attracts Like".

Once brought inside the body, the light brings about the transformation of itself; the practitioner does not manipulate it with the conscious mind; it just happens spontaneously.

The "Purifying/Refining Agent" can be any suitable version of our "Vinegar of the Mountains". Here, I am referring to the "Wet Way". I understand it's somewhat different in the "Dry Way of the Crucible", but I have no practical knowledge or experience with it. Still, the same Principles apply.

Therefore, to all practitioners who are reading this, I would suggest that we do NOT necessarily require a preliminary condensation of ABSOLUTELY PURE "Spiritus Mundi", but we can increase/multiply its underlying Concentration with each new alchemical re-iteration of our "Androgynous Earth Matter" (the allegorical union of "Venus & Mars") in terms of "purity" and other specifically required properties. The continuously refined attributes of the "Prepared Earth Matter" will determine its "attractiveness" and the Concentration (or Multiplication/Increase in Virtue & Potency) of the Spirit we seek.

Its force or power is entire if it be converted into Earth.

An additional note and memo: ALL the aforementioned "Matters" and "Agents" are already "pre-loaded" with Spiritus to various degrees, be it our "Vinegar & Earth", our "Agent & Patient" or our "Acid & Alkali".

Lastly, there are numerous ways to approach the Work, but the same Principles apply, always.

And to anyone inclined to "Authoritatively Rule" what Alchemy is or isn't, make sure you first "grok" the Underlying Principles, and afterwards ponder your words with great care


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[Lakshmana]

Can Orgonites open "portals" to SM?

I don't like resin orgonites solid tourmaline better

[tAlc]

No changes made after 2 months (has it been 2 months?) to what is apparently being dubbed Spiritus Mundi, after the Flask was opened for under a minute after I started, and then closed when it had already begun. Interesting to note down. I'll keep it closed for the rest of the year perhaps so I can exhaust any further speculation and understand that it's useless (if it is) and just be done with these and so I can clean my flask.

Note: I complied my prepared materials and closed the flask and went to work, saw activity, I opened the flask because all of a sudden more water appeared and I thought it was superfluous water from the prior useless stuff that I separated, and when I closed back my flask I no longer saw any activity. If it was the alchemical child in the works, I still ain't so bad of a dad, because how am I suppose to know you were going to die?

[Andro]

I know that correlation and similarity are not enough to "prove" this point, but damn, the principles of Orgone concentration and accumulation are so insanely similar to the Condensation of "Our" Universal Spiritus that it's uncanny! And the term "Orgone" is quite interchangeable with "Odic Force" or " Radiant Energy" or "Life Force" or "Qi/Prana".

IMO it's a fallacy to claim that "Orgone is not Alchemy". Maybe it is not "Alchemy" in the classical sense of preparing the Philosopher's Stone, but it is the same Life-Spirit Principle that underlies (and sustains) EVERYTHING, no matter what we call it.

We owe our "elevated" perspectives to standing on the shoulders of Giants, even if they were not all "Alchemists" as such. Wilhelm Reich was such a "Giant", among many others.

When we successfully condense/corporify the '"Astral Spirit" of some Alchemical Lineages, we are already, whether knowingly/admittedly or not, employing "Orgone" principles to various degrees.

We have, already laid out for us, Orgone Principles for attraction, accumulation, concentration and even "corporification" in physical matter, whether it occurs in nature or by ingenious artifice.

IMO we should ideally seek the Common Ground in the Treasures that all those Giants have left us with.

The same can be said about "Ormus/ORMES". While it is not even remotely a "fully baked" Philosopher's Stone, still, IF done properly, it fulfills the Alchemical requirements of "purifying our matter" and thereby "raising" it to a "higher state" of internal coherence and conductivity for LIFE.

Unveiling & applying Fundamental First Principles is great.

Clinging to Blind & Rigid Dogma - not so much.

[Andro]

This is a challenging post to write...

I shall herein convey my own thoughts on a certain rather fundamental differentiation between what some people refer to "Pure Spirtus Mundi" and other Alchemical "Spirits" & "Mercuries".

These thoughts are partially based on my own experiments and partially on the practice of other Alchemists whose Wisdom greatly exceeds my own.

Pure "Spiritus Mundi" essentially only exists in two (similar) states, which are basically the same state in different modalities, at the so-called "opposite edges" of the ouroborean manifestation spectrum:

Either COMPLETELY immaterial (i.e. non-incorporated under any material shape or form) OR as a (still immaterial) "pure light", "force" or "presence" (for lack of a better term), BUT contained within an alchemically prepared "Perfect Matter". And even so, "Spiritus Mundi" in and of itself is always "pure" and immaterial.

By "Perfect Matter", I mean a material whose internal structural coherence & unity is so greatly refined that it becomes akin to a sort of super-conductor, condenser and capacitor for this "Invisible/Hidden Light" (Or Ganuz).

We can refer to this alchemically prepared "container" as a "Perfectly Fused Non-Dual Androgyne" or alternatively as the ultimate "Battery" of Life Force, because it can, by its extremely unique qualities, attract, concentrate & contain this immaterial "Force" almost by itself, and also release this "Force" in certain conditions, as an "Evolutionary Medicine" or "Supreme Nourishment".

But ultimately, whether in its "free immaterial state" or in its "perfectly materially contained, but still immaterial state", it is always the same PURE & IMMATERIAL "Spiritus Mundi". As well as in any other matters in-between.

The Work on the Philosopher's Stone can be summed up in the Preparation of this "Perfect Matter".

Relatively "pure" renderings of this "Spiritus Mundi" in matter can occur via highly ingenious artifice of the Alchemist. It may take the shape of a subtle "vapor" or a "gas" or a "water" in some cases. Yet, it is contained in a material Host/Carrier, which is however still a long way from the Material Perfection we are aiming to prepare for it.

Conversely, we also have various Alchemical "Spirits" & "Mercuries", which also contain "Spiritus Mundi" in various degrees of structural coherence of the "Host Matter", but nothing compared to the above mentioned alchemically PERFECTED Matter.

Mineral Mercuries, for example, are fundamentally not so drastically different from metallic Mercury/Hg (in some aspects). They can be liquid at room temperature, they can be totally or partially non-aqueous and they can be powerful Tincture Extractors, often able to "extract" all the "Principles" from a Subject Matter in one go. Such potent "Mineral Mercuries" can be obtained in a variety of ways, one example being the alchemical "fusion" of two (or more) prepared bodies, either in the wet way or dry way. The result can be a solid OR a liquid but non-aqueous Mineral Mercury. Another example is using "chymistry" to "break down" the mineral matter and distill a Mineral Spirit from it, which is separated (or mostly separated) from the "chymical solvent". This can give us a Mineral Spirit AND some rather potent volatile mineral salts. There are other examples and protocols.

Ultimately, for the sake of preparing this 'Perfect Matter" or "Perfect Container", the most potent "Mercurial Spirits" are not necessarily the most desirable. Easy does it. We must first walk before we learn to fly.

That's because a super-potent "Mercurial Spirit" will readily extract the Tinctures/Principles from the matter we work on, and would therefore be ill-suited for "gradually" and slowly cooking and perfecting our matter through the "Rotations" of gradually & sequentially "awakening", exalting & rectifying the 2 Central Fires and subsequently combining them in a Perfect Union, which can be further perfected by the "Multiplication" process.

Finally, we could say that the "Super-Magnet of the Sages" and the "Fully Baked Philosopher's Stone" are essentially one and the same Entity.

The level of so-called "purity" of "Incorporated Spiritus Mundi" is ultimately decided by the level of inner structural Perfection, Coherence and Unity of the Host Matter.

And when the "Matter" is "perfected" beyond a certain point, it returns to "immateriality", as all the good authors generously inform us.

There's so much more to it, but words are failing me at this point...

Note & Disclaimer: All of the above is presented for contemplation purposes and is in no way to be regarded as any sort of "absolute truth".

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