Spiritus Mundi

[True Initiate]

I meant baetylus stones worshiped in ancient times.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baetylus

These stones when pierced with the rod of Moses give us also our water, alchemical mercury which is more like salt than liquid water you know like crystaline water. Water out of rock similar to Antimony Dry Path operation... you see how that goes. It's the same story when Longinus pierced the body of Christ and then blood and water flowed out of the wound. It's all christian mysticism and allegory. Alchemy is a priestly art and it always was.

[Andro]

I meant baetylus stones worshiped in ancient times.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baetylus

K()()L. Of the more silica or more iron variety?

These stones when pierced with the rod of Moses give us also our water, alchemical mercury which is more like salt than liquid water you know like crystaline water.

Sounds legit. Have you tested this experimentally?

[True Initiate]

There are 3 types known in ancient times: Octahedrite was most famous one. The story of a hero strangling a dragon with a leather belt it's all about crystaline pattern of Octahedrite. I forgot the name of the belt but it has the same zig-zag pattern called Widmanstätten pattern. Chondrites were called flaming pomegranates because of small globules inside of them.

I have found several meteoric rosaries and if you hold them in your hand you can feel your heart getting heavy just like when you walk in some state sponsored building like police station or court of law i am sure you know the feeling. These are the stones that builders rejected but the religious ones made rosaries. If the pain becomes unbearable there is a sort of prayer to open the heart and extinguish the flames. i will post it here shortly.

[True Initiate]

I know it sounds like religious tv program but all alchemists were religious and they hid everything in songs and prayers.

Jesus Christ has Heart in Flames but Mary has her own Immaculate Heart. In order to rip the benefits we need to find the key hidden in her song "Salve Regina".

English Translation of the Salve Regina

Queen, mother of mercy:
our life, sweetness, and hope, hail.
To thee do we cry, poor banished children of Eve.
To you we sigh, mourning and weeping
in this valley of tears.
Turn then, our advocate,
those merciful eyes
toward us.
And Jesus, the blessed fruit of thy womb,
after our exile, show us.
O clement, O loving, O sweet
Virgin Mary.

The key to her prayer is not words but tears. You need to cry to open your heart to Mary and not running your mouth with repetitious prayers like Ave Maria. When you start to cry you will feel your heart swelling and growing and some type of strong motherly energy wrapping around you almost like hugging you from behind.



I recommend this version of the song for practical work:



This technique is also used in India for opening of the heart chakra as explained in this anime (notice the whirlwind of energy around him and the tears at the end). This is true Spiritual alchemy in practice!

[Andro]

These stones when pierced with the rod of Moses give us also our water, alchemical mercury which is more like salt than liquid water you know like crystaline water.

In order to rip the benefits we need to find the key hidden in her song "Salve Regina".

In your view, are these tears in any way (literally or allegorically) related to the "staff" that draws water from the "rock"? Or are these tears representative of the "water" itself?

Tears are a a good representation of "Heart-Melting", emotionally speaking. I've been through this numerous times, and it is a powerful experience indeed.

Some religious guru (whose name I can't recall) said a few centuries ago that "there is nothing more whole than a broken heart".

Do you find this also implementable in alchemical practice with the aforementioned Meteorite Rocks or "Fiery Stone Hearts"?

[True Initiate]

Water from the rock is a salty part of the stone extracted just like in the dry way of antimony. Imagine trying to work in dry way with a magnet and magnetic energy having painful consequences on your body especially your heart. We are playing with energy and matter at the same time in alchemy just like priests during a christian mass turning wine into blood, a transubstantiation!

Having a physical contact with baetylus stones can be a painful experience for an alchemist or anybody really because this stone will set your heart on fire. So the prayer that i presented is a pain relief from that. Hope that clarifies everything!

In the dry way the regulus is purified with salpetre so that certain pattern emerges on the surface of the melted regulus and meteorite hunters use a little bit of nitric acid on the surface of meteorites for the Widmanstätten pattern to emerge and verify that they are on the good path. What a coincidence!



Widmanstätten pattern is also similar to a net for catching fish or a wooden fence, leather belt...

[Andro]

Imagine trying to work in dry way with a magnet and magnetic energy having painful consequences on your body especially your heart.

The need for protection/insulation has been mentioned quite a bit on this old thread. And for good reason.

Tincture-thirsty Alchemical "Magnets" or "Mercuries" can just as well "extract Soul Pieces" from the practitioner. Especially in the "faster" or "drier" paths.

Caution and vigilance are called for.

[Blacksmith]

The need for protection/insulation has been mentioned quite a bit on this old thread. And for good reason.

Tincture-thirsty Alchemical "Magnets" or "Mercuries" can just as well "extract Soul Pieces" from the practitioner. Especially in the "faster" or "drier" paths.

Caution and vigilance are called for.

so does that rule out the possibility that the antimony butter is a magnet?

[Vyacheslav]

Furthermore:

Every 'Thing' has a 'Field', and every 'Field' has its 'Axis' / 'Separator' / 'Hollow Oak' (Microcosmic Fractal Correspondence of the 'World Tree' - 'Our Old One')

This 'Axis'/'Center' is the Field's 'Bleeding Heart', 'Still Point', 'Null Zone' or 'No Man's Land'.
(a.k.a. 'Zero Point' in some energy research circles - the principles are EXACTLY the same).



This is the 'Zone' where it is possible for our 'Dream Particle' (a.k.a. 'Spiritus Mundi') to become physically manifest, away from vulgar/'corrupted' influences.

This 'Zone' is our 'Portal'/'Gateway', acting like a 'Window' in the 'Wall of Matter', our 'Secret Passage'/'Hidden Tunnel', our 'Rabbit Hole' to Wonderland.

Are you in the 'Zone'?



Natural examples of 'Fields' with their 'Still Points' or 'Axis' have already been given on this thread.

What we essentially need for our Practice is a proper 'Field', along with its naturally occurring 'No Man's Land'.

We also need a 'Vessel' (like a 'Mother's Womb') to contain this 'No Man's Land' and its manifest emanations.

The Field must follow Nature, and 'resonate' in tune and accordance with Nature's Pulse, Rhythms and Earthly/Heavenly influences.

Similarly, so must our Vessel be as Nature requires.

Various technological applications (such as the 'Joe Cell', for example) are attempting to employ the same principles.

Many of them still appear to be missing some keys, such as not (yet?) being in full accord and alignment with Natural Philosophy.
Those are rather more aligned with the Sophistries and technical 'Pufferies' of Over-Culturized Man.

Think philosophically and allegorically of 'Salamander and Remora', similarly of 'Suns' and 'Black Holes' (as previously mentioned by Salazius, earlier in this thread).



Your Field is best when its Flux is most evenly and naturally balanced/aligned.

Your 'Field' / 'Null Zone' and 'Vessel' can be either 'internal', 'external' or both.

Eventually, one leads to the other - IF/WHEN the Bodies are properly prepared...

It may also be a good idea to keep in mind that the 'Ouroboros' (see the 'Key-Ring' model) or 'Axis Mundi' is in fact ONE, although it appears to be many.

More on this subject in a 'future' post...
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I am glad to welcome you again, colleagues! I've been away for a long time. Mainly due to depression and loss of strength. It happens from time to time...Especially when I spend a lot of energy on another fruitless theory. But I'm definitely glad to be back. Electricity is what has occupied and exhausted my mind for the last couple of months...In general, alchemy literally devours me. If there is a black stage inside the alchemist, then this is it. Well, those who are full of strength and energy may be interested. Talking about archetypes and principles, I just have to share my little revelation. Nature does not tolerate emptiness! Can nature really produce something like this by itself? This is the neutral earth or the bleeding heart. Or the same separator. Or a gate. Through which (theoretically) a whole stream of SM will flow)))...Andro, I think I understand what you were doing in your lab...well, at least partially. Tell me I'm right.)

[Andro]

Andro, I think I understand what you were doing in your lab... well, at least partially. Tell me I'm right.)

"Partially" is more than enough

You can use "electricity" (optional), but better use wide-spectrum, as it occurs naturally, not from the electric socket.

Or find other ways to "stir" or "agitate".

Refer to older posts about "Stirring the Aether" (setting it into motion).

Also read ICH's Naturweg.

Ignis & Azoth Tibi Sufficiunt, basically.

Unless we like to make things unnecessarily complicated, as many do.